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Old 26-02-2010, 11:27   #3121

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Actually I do not care about that Germany - Italy thing in UEFA competitions. Italians ruzined their football themselves, and somehow lost the money they had. If Milan cannot be in first 3 in serie a ALWAYS then we do not deserve to play CL.

Anyway, for next year we will have no problems as we are 10 points from Juve. And I think that, even if Germans are above serie a, Milan will fight for scudetto this year and not for the CL. Juve on the other hand...

Again, realise, that our only hope of staying on a highest level is some foreign capital in our club. Fininvest is done paying and that is it. Morratti still pays and obviousely FIAT or whoever pays in Torino.
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Old 26-02-2010, 11:31   #3122

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Dzeko is very good , buyt more importantlly Pato in an interview with nike.com said he couldnt rule out a move to Chelsea and a reunion with Carletto the later I find odd because Leonardo got him for Milan and understands him.
If the worst happens and Chelsea offer 50 - 60 million and Berlusconi sells him and we don't spend 80 or 90 million I don't know what would happen , but as much as I'd like to say he won't leave I can't because I know and he know's that he won't win anything big with this team . Sure we are only 4 points off of Inter but I still don't honestly think we will win the scudetto. And if Pato gets sold this summer there will be a RIOT!!!

Please don't conlcude like Goal.crap, mate. What Pato said is: “I follow English football a lot and Ancelotti, the coach who brought me to Milan is in England now at Chelsea. I love London.”

He is in London for Nike advertisement, it is smart to say you love the city and like the football clubs there.

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Old 26-02-2010, 11:41   #3123

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Please don't conlcude like Goal.crap, mate. What Pato said is: “I follow English football a lot and Ancelotti, the coach who brought me to Milan is in England now at Chelsea. I love London.”

He is in London for Nike advertisement, it is smart to say you love the city and like the football clubs there.
The Pato thing doesnt bother me if he goes he goes , what would bother me is the fact that no money will be spent . We settled our debts last year by selling Kaka and Gourcuff and qualified for the Champions league spent no money are doing well in the league but again (probably B.S) there is rumblings about needing to balance books , there is no way any reasonable amount of money will be spent in the summer and if Pato wanted to leave I wouldn't be happy but understand where he would be coming from.

We need 10 players to leave and 7 to come in any chance??
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Old 26-02-2010, 12:43   #3124

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Woudln't worry bout Pato comments. He'll leave 1 day. But not next year
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Old 26-02-2010, 13:03   #3125

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yup I also reported this
always nice to have some talented youngsters!! next up: USE THEM!!!!!!!!
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I just checked the squad of Primavera, Beretti and Allievi from acmilan website but couldn't find the name you mentioned. In which team of Milan does he play actually?
I think he only joined in January which would explain why he's not listed. My source was milannews.it
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Old 26-02-2010, 13:54   #3126

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I would sell Pato for 50mil and buy aguero(30mil) and dzeko(30mil), imo, Pato is not worth that much and I would cash in on him while his rep is high.
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Old 26-02-2010, 14:35   #3127

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A.C. MILAN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
2/26/2010
MILAN - The declarations made by Kakha Kaladze are unjustified and grave. AC Milan will act towards him in the ways and terms expected by the rules.


Does anyone know what Kaladze said? I hope we'll finally get rid of him, despite being terrible he even talks sh!t about Milan.
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Old 26-02-2010, 14:48   #3128

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A.C. MILAN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
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MILAN - The declarations made by Kakha Kaladze are unjustified and grave. AC Milan will act towards him in the ways and terms expected by the rules.


Does anyone know what Kaladze said? I hope we'll finally get rid of him, despite being terrible he even talks sh!t about Milan.
"Non gioco mai, è una sceltà dell'allenatore e della società. A giugno farò le mie scelte, se continuerò a non giocare lascerò sicuramente la squadra. Sono stato messo fuori dopo la partita contro lo Zurigo, una delle mie migliori prestazioni. Quello che è successo intorno a me è una cosa molto sporca."

"I never play, it's a choice of the coach and the club. In June, I will do my choices, if I continue not to play, I will leave the team for sure. I was put out of the team after the game against Zurich, one of my best games (Umh ...). What happened around me is a very dirty thing."

If someone has a better translation, just post it ...
The "Umh ..." wasn't from KK but from me, like you probably noticed !!
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Old 26-02-2010, 15:00   #3129

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He can go cheers for the good times Kala and the love for Milan , but the time to go is now.
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Old 26-02-2010, 15:02   #3130

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But the way Milan replied probably means he will be sacked ... and where will be the money that we could earn if we sell him ??
In the previous post, it was the declaration given by TMW.

Calciomercato gives another:
Io ero pronto ad andarmene la scorsa stagione - ha dichiarato il difensore georgiano ai microfoni di Skysport -, ma la società non ha voluto vendermi. Sto giocando poco? Veramente non sto giocando proprio, ma questa è la scelta della società e dell'allenatore - afferma il difensore georgiano -. A giugno poi vedrò come andrà la situazione, deciderò tutto a giugno. Mi hanno messo fuori dopo Zurigo dove sono stato tra i migliori in campo. Non voglio parlarne adesso perchè ci sono delle partite importanti, ma attorno me stanno succedendo delle cose molto sporche.

I was ready to leave last season, declared the Georgian defender at Skysport, but the club didn't want to sell me (no club wanted you ...). I have played very little ? I really haven't play at all, but it is a choice of the club and the coach. In June, I'll see how the situation will have evolved, and I will decide everything. They put me out of the squad after Zurich where I was among the best players on the pitch. I don't want to speak about that now (too late stupid guy) because there are important games, but around me, there are very dirty things happening.

The guy already apologized ...
Chiedo scusa a società, allenatore, squadra, e tifosi per le mie dichiarazioni odierne in cui ho usato una terminologia del tutto inappropriata- dichiara il difensore rossonero - il mio sfogo purtroppo è figlio di un periodo in cui ho accumulato molto nervosismo, sfogato oggi in maniera sbagliata.

I ask to the club, the coach, the team and the fans to excuse me for my declarations in which I used an inapropriate terminology. It's indeed the result of a period in which I accumulated stress, evacuated today in a bad way.
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Old 26-02-2010, 18:29   #3131

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I knew what Leonardo is doing since he's here will eventually evolve in something like this. Kaladze is bad, yes, but he's right, no matter how bad he is, he's not worse than Favalli, even at CB, not to mention LB. I'm sure he would do a much better at LB than Favalli and Bonera, even than Jankulovski.

Leonardo has done a great things here, but I never liked the way he's been treating certain players. I know you can't keep everyone happy, but... Kaladze is first and I'm sure that Abbiati would be second if he stayed on the bench a little more, with poor Dida on the goal. Next is Pippo Inzaghi, but since he's a gentleman I doubt he'll say anything, he'll just live when he gets a chance. Flamini will follow...
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Old 26-02-2010, 19:11   #3132

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I don't think Kaladze is better than Favalli, not at all. Although I have nothing against Kaladze (until these comments at least), I'm not sad if it leads to his exit, in fact as most in here would agree, we should've shipped him off earlier (I still can't believe the amounts those Russian clubs were reportedly offering). As far as I'm concerned: "Goodbye Kala, and thanks for everything".

And I don't think Leo is treating him unfairly, Kaladze just needs to realize that he isn't anywhere near good enough to play regularly for Milan, so either accept the bench or move on.
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Old 26-02-2010, 19:17   #3133

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I was finally impressed by one player ... during the game Roma-Pana ... The young and already hyped Ninis, an attacking midfielder, is an excellent player with a lot of potential !!

I think the Greeks (Grecians ? I don't remember how it is said in English, I think it's "the Greeks") of the forum could give some more information about this player ... I know he is considered as the potential guy allowing Greece to level up in a near future.
profile: creative attacking medfielder( a 10),or a right medfielder in many occasions..19 years old,about 170 cm..


lets take it from the start,greek league is a very tough league,especially for attackers..defenders play hard and dirty many times and 90% of the teams play littereally with 9-10 men behind theb ball,which means no space and no time to make right decisions..where is my point?

ninis played his first match about 3 years ago,his debut was fantastic out of this world(greek..),he continued playing like this the following months..the next 2 seasons he missed pre-season with panathinaikos,which is the key part to his carrer till now,he then couldnt play more than a 45 without being extremely tired,moreover he got a serious injury on his back,and furthermore he dated his coach's(that was 2 years ago) daughter,ouuuups..all these are the main reasons he isnt playing for a gr8 club..

this year its all different,he was prepared in preseason,no injuries and a new coach that really trusts him..he is the most mature young player in europe at the moment imo,i am always surprised by his choices..his passes are brilliant and in time,he has gr8 skills with the ball on his feet,powerful shot with both feet,but his gr8est quality is his view on the field,thats why i consider him so smart and mature for his age..


he is considered to be the gr8est talent this ground has produced the last 20 years..any club would be lucky to get him,and i wont say they should w8 him to grow and see,as i think he is already "old enough" mentaly..imo his one and only con is still his stamina,he seems too tired after 70-75 mins,but if he had the right people behind him,that wouldnt be any problem..
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Old 26-02-2010, 20:57   #3134

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Actually I do not care about that Germany - Italy thing in UEFA competitions. Italians ruzined their football themselves, and somehow lost the money they had. If Milan cannot be in first 3 in serie a ALWAYS then we do not deserve to play CL.

Anyway, for next year we will have no problems as we are 10 points from Juve. And I think that, even if Germans are above serie a, Milan will fight for scudetto this year and not for the CL. Juve on the other hand...

Again, realise, that our only hope of staying on a highest level is some foreign capital in our club. Fininvest is done paying and that is it. Morratti still pays and obviousely FIAT or whoever pays in Torino.

Agree with you. I will never want inter to win. The only time i would cheer for them would be if them winning would do us some good.

Just like mrki said if we deserve to pay in the CL we should be finishing in the top 3.


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Old 27-02-2010, 03:42   #3135

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It's actually disappointing to hear this news story about Kaladze. I respected what he's done for Milan over the last decade and felt he should leave with respect in the summer. Instead his outburst (which could be down to stress as he's had a particularly hard time in the last year) seems to have effectively ruined the relationship.

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I knew what Leonardo is doing since he's here will eventually evolve in something like this. Kaladze is bad, yes, but he's right, no matter how bad he is, he's not worse than Favalli, even at CB, not to mention LB. I'm sure he would do a much better at LB than Favalli and Bonera, even than Jankulovski.

Leonardo has done a great things here, but I never liked the way he's been treating certain players. I know you can't keep everyone happy, but... Kaladze is first and I'm sure that Abbiati would be second if he stayed on the bench a little more, with poor Dida on the goal. Next is Pippo Inzaghi, but since he's a gentleman I doubt he'll say anything, he'll just live when he gets a chance. Flamini will follow...
I disagree. Kaladze has been far and away our worst defender over the last couple of years making awful mistakes in almost every match he's played. He has definitely done worse than Favalli (which is why Favalli was picked ahead of him last season and this) and he refuses the LB role unless there's an absolute emergency.

I also don't think Leo's treating some players badly. Kaladze doesn't deserve more playing time than he's getting imo. Abbiati has been eased back in after being injured half a year, I don't think Leo preferred Dida to him. Pippo is ageing and relying on him so much when we've got 2 decent strikers in their 20s seems an odd way to progress if building for the future. Flamini is the only one I have a question mark over, as I'm not sure why he doesn't get more starts (though given Leo's comments after Fiorentina, this could change soon).

On a more positive note, according to milannews mercato expert Jose Alberti has said the Dzeko deal has already been done. The only thing likely to affect the deal now is Dzeko getting injured. Huntelaar is likely to make way for him with his likely destination being England.
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