Banter 2009/2010

Originally Posted by Nalx

It'll be interesting but only on the paper

We're gonna be linked with many defenders before Galliani steps out announcing that in keeping with our family values, we now add another experienced champion for free: Christian Panucci

This I can see horrible as that sounds. Janku , Kaladze , Dida , Zambro , Rino , Pippo , Oddo , Onyewu , Roma should all be gone thats 9 that should go but I only see Janku , Pippo , Kaladze going and with Astori coming back Paloschi probably that will be our mercato sad as it is , unless Galliani brings the wreck that is Baptista because hey Galliani says he's great but we know he is cheap.

Panucci is too expensive for Milan.

Galli will just recall, Astori, Darmian and Albertazzi to fill in for Oddo, Favalli, Janku and Kala.

As Having a starting four of Zambro, T. Silva, Nesta and Antonini are good enough. THen you have Bonera, Abate, Gouch, Astori, Darmian and Albertazzi off the bench. More than enough if you ask me.

not good enough to win CL and Serie A! and that should always be the ambition of Milan IMO.


Rossi would be very nice!!!! he can play on both wings and play as striker in a 2striker system...

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Panucci is too expensive for Milan.

This post is my important contribution to this thread

Let's not jump on with conclusions. Let's wait and see. We will surely sell Kaladze and Jankulovski because they don't play. I would send Dida and Favalli with them. I'm not sure about Oddo. If we buy one SB, then he can go.

About SBs, did anyone noticed that we have only three left-footed players in our squad (Favalli, Kaladze and Jankulovski; forget Borriello, for that position it's not important) and all of them are close to exit? In my opinion as we need a side back, he must be a left-footed player.

I know there was a story here about him, and I said no, but I really think we should try Zhirkov, as he's about only available left-footed side back that's good for us, I say "available" because he can't get first team football at Chelsea. Watching him at Chelsea, as he's playing because A. Cole is injured, he's great in attack, the same impression I had after watching him at Euro 2008, miles better than any of our SBs. He's not great defensively, but he's not Jankulovski either. As no matter for Pirlo or Ambrosini whether they play right of left in line, we could put Ambrosini left to cover him. We all see how good cover Zanetti is for Maicon, since Zanetti plays left-back, Maicon is nowhere hear as good in defense as he seemed with Zanetti there.

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

Galliani has a fixation with Julio Baptista it says on Football-Italia.com. He says I like the player alot and Sensi knows this too he would like to bring him to Milan.

WO WO WO WO WO , No fuking way this guy is a bad player he plays as an attacking Midfielder/Striker he has 12 goals in the last 4 and a half years and 8 assists this is not a good player he is not what we need , sure nothing in papers or interviews is true as they say , saying aint doing.

But this would be awful and he is the forward we buy IF , then we might aswell renew Inzaghi for 5 years on 100 million a season instead.

Originally Posted by Nalx

Baptista? The last time he impressed me was when he played for Sevilla and that's, what, a century ago?

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

About 6 years ago , he is a mess of a player hasn't been a starter in almost 5 years for any club or his country. He doesn't score or create much at all he looks slower sluggish on the ball his shots are bad his dribbles are bad he can't head a ball.
Maybe its a confidence thing but he has been pretty bad for about 5 year's and would be an awful buy , But hey if he's cheap and getting on in age and for sale he'll probably end up at Milan .

I got a bit excited when that story about Dzeko agreeing a move to Milan , even though it was just paper talk but its been a week and ofcourse no further talk. I wouldn't mind (well I would) if we didn't get Dzeko or anyone but stop saying that this player is great and that player is great when Baptista is not a good player.

Originally Posted by Stitch

I really wanted Baptista when he was in Sevilla, but he proved me wrong. He showed nothing since he went to RealM, and would probably be cheap. That's why I think this is a very realistic rumour

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

Whats the point though I mean he will offer nothing and I mean nothing , he is a Siena level player 6 or 7 goals a season and he couldnt even do that at RMadrid Arsenal or Roma who all create lots of chances no thank you Galli no thank you...

Hey, dudes, he is not bad like you thought.

Anyway, he is not a Striker.

He started his career as DM thank to his tank frame, then Seville converted him to AM.

He does not have the technique of Dinho or Kaka, but as a Brasilian, he is good.

Real played him LAM, that why he did not success.

I think he is a very good replacement/subitute for Seedorf. What we are lacking is physical power and he will provide that. He can shield the ball (like Borri), he can shoot, pass and defend, least technique than Seedorf but stronger, younger and not lazy like him. Up to now, Leo successed with every Brasilian player, so he would not be an exception, wouldn't he.

Have faith, guy

It is OK to get him for about 5M

Baptista reminds me of Emerson all over again.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Baptista reminds me of Emerson all over again.

Only difference being that Emerson was actually a champion once.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Baptista reminds me of Emerson all over again.

Originally Posted by vivardo

Only difference being that Emerson was actually a champion once.

And Emerson is injury-prone, too. That was the main reason why his form decrease so quickly. He reminded me of Redondo. Around 30, long term injury has great effect on players.

I'm not a fan of Baptista or anything, but he has the quality. Dunga is hard head, there are reasons why he was chosen for Brasil NT.

LUCAS PIAZON

Brasiliero : Waiting for ur comments on this kid.....and about any updates on Hernanes as well....

Originally Posted by k7r

LUCAS PIAZON

Brasiliero : Waiting for ur comments on this kid.....and about any updates on Hernanes as well....

Seems like Chelsea and Barcelona are interested.

Borriello will always fail to impress vs strong and very good defenders.as we know he is a limited player a player who plays with his strength-im not saying he is not doing well he is doing well yet i want someone to shine in big games and create his chance his own.Stronger defenders will always eat Borriello alive in the games...That will be our destiny...

Milan needs an upgrade there-Even Chamakh or someone like Adriano would be ideal considering Dzeko costs 40 m euros and out of our reach...Do we have any chance to sign Rooney?or someone like him?Shevchenko esque striker...complete striker...

Regarding midfield.Simplicio and Hernanes could do job...on the wing i always wanted Krasic...for left back Bordeaux's guy is great...at CB Astori is the man...Rodrigo Ely is nice prospect for the future same goes for Albertazzi...Paloschi is more than welcomed as i think he can play on Patos or Ronaldinho's position.its a pity he is at Parma now cuz i think he could do better job than Beckham on there...


How much these players would cost?

Astori
Simplicio
Bordeuax's LWB.
Hernanes
Krasic
Striker...


it would cost so much in my opinion i know Galliani and Berlusconi well...i dont think he could do this...Probably we will see same market like the last years...1 useful player 2-3 unuseful players old and finished i mean...we get used to Galliani...

I join Aficio on Baptista.
The guy is a good player, he could have been a lot better but it looks like wrong choices (from him: the clubs, and from his coaches: none of them seems to have managed to place him on the field) have wasted him ... but he's not totally lost.

I even think the guy is good when he plays for Roma, but there are some choices of Ranieri I don't understand (another one: Menez always on the bench).

Anyway, just a laughing rumour launched by Tuttosport I think: Domenech in Juventus next year !! Blanc quickly said it wasn't true (I think he realised that being linked with Domenech means that his club is becoming a joke), but I want to thank again and again Tuttosport for that rumour !!
Domenech, the most uncompetent "coach" (I was going to use the word "tactician" but like Blanc, I realised something: I'm writing about Domenech !!) for this living-dead Juventus with their amazing pyromans... I mean supporters, that would do my day, no my week, no sorry, my month, or even my year !!

Originally Posted by Rabia15

How much these players would cost?

Astori
Simplicio
Bordeuax's LWB.
Hernanes
Krasic
Striker...


it would cost so much in my opinion i know Galliani and Berlusconi well...i dont think he could do this...Probably we will see same market like the last years...1 useful player 2-3 unuseful players old and finished i mean...we get used to Galliani...

- Astori: depends if he is on loan or co-owned. If co-owned, not more than 4-5M I think (which is already a lot as if we pay this sum, that would mean the guy is valued to 8-10M with our part).
- Simplicio: no idea
- Tremoulinas: not more than 8-10M, but all will depend on Laurent Blanc, I don't think any player will move from Bordeaux (except Fernando and maybe Cavenaghi) if he stays, while if he leaves, some players should ask to leave.
- Hernanes: each time he is mentionned, the price tag seems to be around 20-25M.
- Krasic: depends on how many teams want him and which ones want him (if it's Lens, Cagliari and us, the price won't increase, if it's Real, Inter, Manchester City and us, which seems to be the case actually, it could increase a lot because of competition to acquire him), so it should be between 12-13M and 30M.
- Striker: I don't know him ...

About the last part of your post, didn't you see a change in the last year mercato ? We didn't buy the useless (maybe Di Gennaro) or finished players.

Krasic's price mentioned many times as 15 M euros and it seems Simplicio is a free agent...

Abate was already ours...same goes for Di Gennaro...

we signed Onyewu(who is absolutely useless) and Huntelaar...Roma...(completely useless)

Huntelaar is a good buy yet not very good or great buy...he is just a good buy...good poacher...nothing more...inter signed Milito he is a great buy...he showed it many times this season...

we just signed 2 players...1 useless...1 good buy...mediocre mercato if you ask me...

is there anyone who rocks in first 11?Nope...one never seen...one bench warmer..