Banter 2009/2010

Originally Posted by Fret

Last summer we needed about 3-4 new players to step up to the chase for some trophies, this summer we will be needing 7 new players......next summer?

Mate, as long as we are brining and developing enough youth in these years, eventually we won't need to bring in that many players when some develop into useful players.

Originally Posted by kastriot

cmon M.O.I ..its still not official yet

Well, it is now, as he went under the knife this morning.

Originally Posted by Aficio

26 matches, 14 goals, 8 assists.

40M is still too much, but it could be considered.

Just watch him play sometimes He does so much more than scoring and assisting.

Iam probably not objective enough, since he's my compatriot and I want him in Milan badly, but I have a feeling he is EXACTLY what we need upfront. Big, strong, can head the ball, powerful shot with both feet, knows what to do with the ball and doesn't lose it much.

True, Bundesliga defenders are a lot weaker than the defenders in Serie A. But him being 2nd scorer of the WC EURO qualifiers (behind Gekas, who scored 4 in one game) can tell that his good form is not limited to Germany

Yes Nesta is in for surgery:

Looks like we have almost wrapped up a deal for a new GK as well.... I don't know about this one.

http://soccerleaguenews.com/serie-a/...-to-milan-176/

Originally Posted by Stitch

Just watch him play sometimes He does so much more than scoring and assisting.

Iam probably not objective enough, since he's my compatriot and I want him in Milan badly, but I have a feeling he is EXACTLY what we need upfront. Big, strong, can head the ball, powerful shot with both feet, knows what to do with the ball and doesn't lose it much.

True, Bundesliga defenders are a lot weaker than the defenders in Serie A. But him being 2nd scorer of the WC EURO qualifiers (behind Gekas, who scored 4 in one game) can tell that his good form is not limited to Germany

I think the possibility of signing him is high. This season we balanced the book and have more income. Berlusconi's wrath has shown.

Originally Posted by Saliwonczyk

Yes Nesta is in for surgery:

Looks like we have almost wrapped up a deal for a new GK as well.... I don't know about this one.

http://soccerleaguenews.com/serie-a/...-to-milan-176/

The first time I heard this news was from:

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy...o-alves-report

Look like he has free release clause of 15M, and Real wants him, too:

http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain...-madrids-jerzy

I do not watch La Liga, but people rate him high. I welcome him though Abbiatti still performs very well.

Stitch: Our team needs a lot more than just a striker. We need a creative box-to-box midfielder, a CD to eventually replace Nesta and a good fullback who can actually DEFEND and CROSS before we buy a striker.

Originally Posted by Mystik

Stitch: Our team needs a lot more than just a striker. We need a creative box-to-box midfielder, a CD to eventually replace Nesta and a good fullback who can actually DEFEND and CROSS before we buy a striker.

Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why dont we stop debating what we need first and what we need second and just agree on the fact that we need all those players? We can't win anything without a good CB to play behind Nesta; we can't win anything with the same midfield that's been here since the beginning of last decade; we can't win anything with Borriello as our target man. We need a lot of players, the only problem is, the management thinks we don't need anyone.

Of course we need a lot of players but we can't pretend that we're working with a Real Madrid type of budget. As a result, we have to prioritize our spending so that we get what's absolutely necessary first. Hence, we'd probably be better off with someone like David Villa up front but it's not a necessity at the moment.

Originally Posted by slifersd

why dont we stop debating what we need first and what we need second and just agree on the fact that we need all those players? We can't win anything without a good CB to play behind Nesta; we can't win anything with the same midfield that's been here since the beginning of last decade; we can't win anything with Borriello as our target man. We need a lot of players, the only problem is, the management thinks we don't need anyone.

Because if we want to be realistic and logical, we need to do like our management should do: making a hierarchy of our needs.

If we don't, umh, if they don't, sorry, then, let's say they have 30M to spend, they will negotiate with 3-4 players at the same time, all players we need, but they will take the first two to accept an offer and the 30M could be spent on two midfielders for example, which would be quite weird when it seems obvious we need a CD and a FB ...

Anyway, for moment, we're sure of two things:
- Dida's going to leave
- Favalli's going to retire

We can't be sure of anything else right now.

And we should getthese players for a small amount of money:
- CD: Astori (co-owned)
- CD (it's where he is used in Livorno): Marcus Diniz (loan)
- ST: Paloschi (co-owned)

What I'm asking myself right now is if our management is going to count them as real reinforcements for the team which means "no other CD bought, no other striker bought unless Huntelaar or another one leaves" or if they're going to count them as backups, as players adding a good depth to our team.

By knowing that Paloschi comes back, that means two strikers have to leave ... we're almost sure that Inzaghi won't get a renewed contract. That leaves us with either Borriello or Huntelaar leaving and Borriello will not leave. So the arrival of Dzeko depends a lot on how will perform Huntelaar in this end of season.

The questions are:
- Is Kaladze going to leave ? (I think he will but who's sure of that ?)
- Is Jankulovski going to leave ?
- Is Oddo going to leave ?
- Is Huntelaar going to leave ?
- Is Inzaghi going to leave ?
and
- Is Storari going to be our 2nd GK when he'll come back ? (why spending on a new GK if we can use Storari who's been solid for Sampdoria)
- How will be used the youngsters who'll come back ?
- Who will be promoted from Primavera ? (Verdi, Hottor, Zigoni, Berretta, Aadiyah, who knows, instead of buying players, can we be sure that our management is not going to use one of them in the first team ? Did you notice they play in positions we need and arrived this season ... which shows some continuity, but I'm not sure they'd be ready for our first team and while I was optimistic we would buy some players we need, right now, after noticing that and writing these lines, I feel a bit less convinced !! )

And if the answers to the questions 'Is X going to leave ?" are "yes", we will save a lot of money from wages ...

Anyway, I just realise there are too many internal questions ... so I hope our management already replied these questions before starting to look for new players.

if we have the chance to sign Cacau(28 years old,free agent and EU),i'd let Paloschi stay at Parma one more year and develop and continue his progress...

We all agree on creative box to box,old seedorf typee player and im also thinking we need some deep for midfield such as Simplicio or Galloppa of Parma...

Signing a striker instead Huntelaar(Dzeko or Adriano) Cacau instead inzaghi.

Krasic as vice Ronnie and Pato,we are set in attack...

Adriano
Ronaldinho Pato

Borriello
Cacau Krasic

Adriano(low cost)
Krasic 15 m euros
Cacau 0

in midfield;

Hernanes 15 m euros
Simplicio 0
Galloppa 12 m euros(one of Simplicio and Galloppa not both of them)

Tremoulinas 8 m euros
then RB
Astori


we can have a quality team with that 40 m euros instead of spending it on just one player Edin Dzeko...

No offense to all the posters here, but if we really want to be realistic, then let's just shut this forum down. We all know what is going to happen. If we bought nothing but Huntelaar and Onyewu after selling Kaka for 65 million euros, then how much money could we possibly have to spend this summer? Astori, Diniz and Paloschi are nice young players but none of those guys should be in the main rotation for a team of Milan's (supposedly) caliber. If we have to depend on Diniz and Astori to replace Nesta, then we are not that much better off than we are right now. If Paoloschi is the guy we are counting on to give us 20 goals a season, then we are royally screwed as a team.

I personally believe that we need five new players in CB, FB, CF, GK, and CM almost equally. We cannot keep going on with this whole "that's all the budget we have, let's see how many of the 100 holes we have on our roster we can patch up with it." If we even want to get back to the level we had in 2003, then we need to step up our game and actually spend like a championship level team. If not, then let's just settle for mediocracy.

we need to be realistic, spending 40mil on Dzeko and not getting any other replacements won't solve our problems.

Here are my realistic buys:
Adriano
Caucau
Krasic
Astori

People from Curva sud said that Milan will sell Pato to Chelsea in the summer. Those same people said the news about Ricky before Galliani went to MAdrid to fix the deal in short time... Please do not attack me now and talk how that is not a news etc., becouse Im just saying what my friend who goes to see Milan with Curva told me on "MM sa Balkana" forum. So, Im just repeating what he said, nothing more. Rumour from Milan's curva.

OK, now... Astori for Favalli, that is the only place I approve for Astori, nothing more. He is a normal serie a player, nothing more.

If we again lack money for any kind of a serious deal then really... **** it all.

Diego aLves is an excellent GK, I saw im few times. Also players like Bale, Bonucci, Hernanes, Dzeko, Jovetic etc. - those are the players a real Milan needs, not some half players that are free... If we cannot bring in 4,5 quality players, mark my words, we wont have a good team AGAIN. 100mln in needed in here, and we act like Lazio again as it seems now.

Originally Posted by Aficio

26 matches, 14 goals, 8 assists.

40M is still too much, but it could be considered.

Statistic are telling just half of a story, the truth is that most of Wolfsburg's players suck in this season, mostly their most important players, like Misimović and Graffite, they're pale shadows of the players they were last season. Only Dzeko kept last season's form, and not just that, he improved a LOT. In the beginning of last season, he was just super-talented penalty-box striker with great positional sense, good pace, strength and good heading, but now he's all that with clinical finishing with both foot and with brilliant technique. The way he improves month after month is amazing.

But, both Graffite and Misimović improved a lot in the last month or so, Wolfsburg won 5 or their 6 last games, so you can expect even more from Dzeko in the coming weeks.

We need 4 or 5 players, I've already wrote that, but, to be real, with all team fully fit a striker is most needed, full back is following him, and then a midfielder.

It would be a waist to not sign Dzeko, if somebody else would take him, because he's already in top 5 or best penalty-box strikers in the world and as I already said the way he improves his game, especially his technique, team play and passing is amazing. If you ask me would it be worth to risk next season and buy Dzeko instead of 2-3 other players I would say yes. Keep in mind that we will not pay more than 25 M in money for him.