Banter 2009/2010

From Calciomercato: it's almost official for Yepes. He will sign a one year contract.
TMW reports a two year contract with a 1M € wage.

What I read is that it is a one year contract with an option for the second year at 900000 euros a year.

btw......i do not know if anyone has noticed this...

just go to ac milan.com & click on the under-14 squad...there are 2 boys with the first name of christian, one of them is christian maldini.......guess the other christian????

IT IS CHRISTIAN GALLIANI !!!!!!!

Could he be the grandson of uncle fester ?????? If so that answerw all our questions, as to why galliani is not spending....obviously he assumes his grandson to be the future worl player of the year who is gonna save milan........


-----------R80------Pato/Borri------Krasic


------Pastore-----Pirlo/Seedorf-----Ambro/Flamini


Antonini/Vargas---Silva---Nesta/Kjaer---Santon/Abate


--------------------Marchetti---------------------

Originally Posted by Nalx

Thank goodness Bremen denied the news linking us to Per Mertesacker. His partnership with Metzelder is the Germany NT's worst CB pair ever. This guy is really like Bierhoff, his above average aerial ability is his only plus

I don't think so.

The truth is Germany has the worst squad / achievement ever. From 2005 til now, there are many national squads stronger, include: Brazil, Argentina, England, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal. And in term of nature talent, you can talk about Holland, Ivory Coast,... Only Ballack & O.Kahn were true world class in 10 years.

Die Nationalmannschaft is just the most consistent team, and Mertesacker is one of the most consistent.

Per is the world most clean CB, that means he has almost no aggressiveness. He utilizes his tall body advantage to block opponent movevement & shoot, narrow shooting angle more than win the ball at all cost. Thats why he did not receive many cards.

There is no problem if he chooses his play style like this because that suits him the most now (but need some changes to play in Serie A and CL), plus the well tactical education, he will last very long on the field. I do not conclude that he is the intelligent type, but he does think well and he could be the best student of Nesta.

Experience at World Cup, Euro, CL, EL, very good at heading (he scores a goal/10 matches), tactically good and professional & consistent.

In theory, he and Silva could complement each other very well. IMO, Silva still relies much on his physical advantage (speed, strength). Both must learn from Nesta.

However, the price 10M for Per is ridiculous, his market value is 15M, we need 15-20M to get him.

IMO, he is a good signing for an understudy.

Kaka Omitted From Real Madrid Squad Again

http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain...id-squad-again

Originally Posted by Arildonardo

Kaka Omitted From Real Madrid Squad Again

http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain...id-squad-again

We told Madrid "70 Mil as is" and they said "Agreed No problem"... Maybe he is just home sick and wants a trip to Milan!!!
However, if he is a very close friend of Rivaldo, his lack of form and effort has to do with sacrificing club for country in the world cup year.
Brazilians, except Ronaldinho at Barca, normally play below par for their clubs in a world cup year. 2002 Rivaldo even sat out champions league semis...

First off all,i wanna say something about Kaka,i was thinking that he wouldnt do much at Real yet i have to admit,i wasnt expecting a perfonmance like this,this is worst than i expected...Kaka was already in decline when he was at Milan,maybe he was not getting so much attention among the players like Ronaldinho,Seedorf,Sheva e.t.c.at Real he is getting much attention cuz others are doing well...much better than him...

Secondly,i know its risky playing Misimovic alongside Pirlo yet i love his style,he would do really well at Serie A,as he is hard player to handle,above all he plays for the team...
i'd rather to have Misimovic than players like VDV...he is weak or slow...you can say whatever you want yet Misimovic is a class player who can make the difference,off course i'd like to have a midfield like Hernanes-Sissoko-Flamini than Misimovic-Pirlo and Flamini...

Thirdly,i dont rate Mertersacker much,paying 15-20 m euros for a bench player is crazy...
i'd sign David Luiz and using him at LB when Nesta is on the field...Miranda or David Luiz are quality defenders and costs much less than him...

Then,yepes,im fed up with this kind of transfers,we are signing old and finished players after finished and old playes,our squad number s always at 30,we can never reduce it.how can we reduce it while Galliani doesnt stop this kind of players...i'd rather to have 14-15 world class players and 5-6 youngsters at squad then 30 normal players...yet Gallian thinks the opposite...

Then,Astori,he doesnt cost more than 3-4 millions euros in my opinion,15 m euros for him is absolutely crazy...i'd let them sign him then i'd try to sign Bochetti from Genoa...
or Matteo Ferrari is doing well at Besiktas,he wouldnt cost much than 4 m euros and would be nice addition compared to Astori...

we just need to sign world class players not old and finished players or normal players...
if we have the same transfer campaign like last year,we wont go far from 2nd round in CL like this year...

World class players not Astori or not Yepes...its enough to have 2 quality subs for Nesta and Silva and a player like Albertazzi is enough...having Onyewu,Kaladze,Favalli,Bonera for reserves is too much,we dont get much from them,they evn cant replace one of them with a solid perfonmance,sign 2 quality player then let this guys go,They are not Milan class...David Luiz and Bochetti for example,would do much better than this 4 players combined...would earn less...would give much more...would win much...

Same story for GK,we still dont have a world class Gk,yet we have 5-6 GK's.a World Class Gk and A back up GK who wont miss the first choice when he is out...is enoug...

Someone must tell Galliani this...signing more players doesnt mean he wont bring more quality...

What kind of player Pastore is?he is a box to box?or Kaka typee?i didnt watch him much more,i saw him but dont remember him much...Would you please give me some information?

im supporting Bordeaux at CL since then,i dont like Barcelona,Man U,Arsenal,Lyon,inter...
the only team i like is Bordeaux is there...i hope they win it...

Instead of us buying players who should replace current ones (which are beginning to deteriorate), we buy players to be their substitutes

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

I think Villa will go to Real.
Higuin and Gago will head to ManCity.
Real will also sign a LB, hopefully Janku or Favalli but most likely be either Erva or Cissohko(since they get to see him play up close).
Real will sign Gerrard for money + VDV

ManU will get J. Cole for free and will try to lure Torres.
If that failed, they will get Dzeko in exchange for money+Berba.

Milan will get Yepes and all the other free players like Mancini.
Pato will be sold to Chelsea
Amuari will be a Milan player in exchange for Hunter.

If ManU did not get Dzeko, then Berba will be playing in Juve.

If ManU did not get Dzeko, he will end up in Barcelona as Henry is going to play in MLS after the WC with Trez.

Very possible, my friend

Originally Posted by Rabia15

Then,yepes,im fed up with this kind of transfers,we are signing old and finished players after finished and old playes,our squad number s always at 30,we can never reduce it.how can we reduce it while Galliani doesnt stop this kind of players...i'd rather to have 14-15 world class players and 5-6 youngsters at squad then 30 normal players...yet Gallian thinks the opposite...

Then,Astori,he doesnt cost more than 3-4 millions euros in my opinion,15 m euros for him is absolutely crazy...i'd let them sign him then i'd try to sign Bochetti from Genoa...
or Matteo Ferrari is doing well at Besiktas,he wouldnt cost much than 4 m euros and would be nice addition compared to Astori...

we just need to sign world class players not old and finished players or normal players...
if we have the same transfer campaign like last year,we wont go far from 2nd round in CL like this year...

World class players not Astori or not Yepes...its enough to have 2 quality subs for Nesta and Silva and a player like Albertazzi is enough...having Onyewu,Kaladze,Favalli,Bonera for reserves is too much,we dont get much from them,they evn cant replace one of them with a solid perfonmance,sign 2 quality player then let this guys go,They are not Milan class...David Luiz and Bochetti for example,would do much better than this 4 players combined...would earn less...would give much more...would win much...

Same story for GK,we still dont have a world class Gk,yet we have 5-6 GK's.a World Class Gk and A back up GK who wont miss the first choice when he is out...is enoug...

Someone must tell Galliani this...signing more players doesnt mean he wont bring more quality...

What kind of player Pastore is?he is a box to box?or Kaka typee?i didnt watch him much more,i saw him but dont remember him much...Would you please give me some information?

Yepes would replace Favalli: it's an upgrade (stronger and younger, so the average age decreases with this move ).

About Astori, it's just media crap for this 15M price ... he's co-owned, both parts will negotiate as both clubs are in good terms.

About the bold part, umh ... I strongly disagree, I think our club needs finished or old players, let's sign Lucarelli as our strong striker, let's buy both Camoranesi and Del Piero (40M for these two players would be a perfect move) and let's take Gallas on loan.
Of course we need WC players, all teams need WC players, but it shouldn't be the main objective (more than WC players, we actually need useful players), look at Madrid, they bought WC players, we beat them and they didn't do better than us then.
And I have this strange feeling that there are less and less WC players, it looks like nowadays, the teams are more important than the players, only a very few of the players in the world can do the difference by themselves, and not on a consistent basis.

About GKs, we have Abbiati and Dida in our roster right now, and Roma as our third GK. At the end of this season, Dida will go. We don't know what the club will do with Roma but as long as he is used as a third GK (which means that we have to be very unlucky to have to use him), it's ok for me. Then, for the second spot for GKs, it looks like it will be between Storari or a new GK ... For me, our GK roster hasn't been that good since years.

About Pastore, he is an attacking midfielder, he is the same kind of player as Kaka'. I saw him several times and he impressed me a lot most of the times. He can dribble very easily and without trying amazing tricks (a bit like Kaka'), he's quite fast, he's a key part of the success of Palermo with Miccoli.

The first player I want is a complete midfielder for AMC to replacing Seedorf.

However, B&G has the reason not to do so when S10 lit our hope against Chievo, against MU in San Siro, lift our team in Velodrom (assisted both goals), and without him we lose both match against Inter. In addition, he scored a goal in Madrid (won 3-2), a goal against Bologna (1-0), Cagliari (4-3), Sampdoria (3-0). Decisive in 4 matches, helped 2 matches.

But I can not count on him, the inconsistent one. The lazyness of him helped us 2 draw with Livorno (0-0, 1-1), 1 draw with Bologna (0-0), Bari (0-0), Atalanta (1-1) and other 2 losts against Udinese (0-1) & Palermo (0-2).

Coincident, maybe, but when besides both Inter and the Roma 0-0 recently, in all the matches that we lost points, he was included in starting line-up and played at least 60 min, there was something not right. He took part in the draw 2-2 with Napoli, too.

I dislike his star-like appearance, just shining in some important matches and sinking in most of matches.

I don't want him to quit, we still need him, but we need a replacement.

My squad for next season. It may look a little radical but it's possible. It will definitely not strain Mr Berlusconi's wallet. The sale of Ronnie, Pirlo, Borriello, Huntelaar and most of our squad should be able to fund this squad. Together with our pathetic revenue each year which is steadily on the decline. We need players who have not won anything and hungry for success. Most importantly, we need a strong Italian base in our squad. Well, it's just a fantasy. Not too sure if this will ever happen.


GOALKEEPERS:

FEDERICO MARCHETTI
CHRISTIAN ABBIATI
FELIPE PERUCCHINI

DEFENDERS:

IGNAZIO ABATE
ANDREA RANOCCHIA
DAVIDE ASTORI
DAVIDE SANTON
LORENZO DE SILVESTRI
ANDREA ESPOSITO
LEONARDO BONUCCI
LUCA ANTONINI
ALESSANDRO NESTA

MIDFIELDERS:

THIAGO SILVA
JAVIER PASTORE
HERNANES
FABIO SIMPLICIO
DANIELE DESSENA
MARCO BIAGIANTI
EDMUND HOTTOR
VLADIMIR KOMAN

ATTACKERS:

ALEXANDRE PATO
MARIO BALOTELLI
ALBERTO PALOSCHI
DOMINIC ADIYIAH

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Yepes would replace Favalli: it's an upgrade (stronger and younger, so the average age decreases with this move ).

About Astori, it's just media crap for this 15M price ... he's co-owned, both parts will negotiate as both clubs are in good terms.

About the bold part, umh ... I strongly disagree, I think our club needs finished or old players, let's sign Lucarelli as our strong striker, let's buy both Camoranesi and Del Piero (40M for these two players would be a perfect move) and let's take Gallas on loan.
Of course we need WC players, all teams need WC players, but it shouldn't be the main objective (more than WC players, we actually need useful players), look at Madrid, they bought WC players, we beat them and they didn't do better than us then.
And I have this strange feeling that there are less and less WC players, it looks like nowadays, the teams are more important than the players, only a very few of the players in the world can do the difference by themselves, and not on a consistent basis.

About GKs, we have Abbiati and Dida in our roster right now, and Roma as our third GK. At the end of this season, Dida will go. We don't know what the club will do with Roma but as long as he is used as a third GK (which means that we have to be very unlucky to have to use him), it's ok for me. Then, for the second spot for GKs, it looks like it will be between Storari or a new GK ... For me, our GK roster hasn't been that good since years.

About Pastore, he is an attacking midfielder, he is the same kind of player as Kaka'. I saw him several times and he impressed me a lot most of the times. He can dribble very easily and without trying amazing tricks (a bit like Kaka'), he's quite fast, he's a key part of the success of Palermo with Miccoli.

Real still dont have a world class left back,they signed Kaka who was in decline since 2 years,Ronaldo(perfect signing for them),Xabi(same),Benzema...

yet they sold 2 world class players while signing these guys...They didnt sign a world class CB,world class LB,world class midfielders,at left they plays Marcelo,cuz they dont have a world class player there,their striker Higuain is great for La Liga but in champions he is not enough.

i agree with you on useful players,but i have to add something one word to it,quality,useful players with quality...

Real forgot to sign these kind of player who could make them a team...Real didnt sign Ferdinand or Vidic,Real didnt sign Essien,Real didnt sign Torres,Real didnt sign Gerrard,Real didnt sign Hernanes e.t.c.
for instance Silva of Valencia would be perfect signing for them for midfield,with a player like Gerrard or a complete midfield,with Ronaldo at right,Their midfield would be more balanced,in attack,Fernando Torres would be nice to them...they would be more a team like this...with a Left wing back and CB,they would be complete,instead of signing Kaka and Benzema,they had better to sign these kind of players...Everything would be different...

No offense, Rabia, but you seem to forgot that Real also signed Albiol. He isn't Vidic, but he is a rock in the back for them. He is the one guy that gives them a lot of stability without demanding any spotlights. If you ask me, Real did a much much better job signing players this summer than Florentino's first go around. They signed Kaka, who was still relatively young to play the Zidane role. Maybe it didn't work out as well as many hoped, but Kaka hasn't exactly flunked miserably just yet. To say the least, he isn't doing any worse for Real than Ronaldinho did his first year with us.

Originally Posted by Rabia15

Real still dont have a world class left back,they signed Kaka who was in decline since 2 years,Ronaldo(perfect signing for them),Xabi(same),Benzema...

yet they sold 2 world class players while signing these guys...They didnt sign a world class CB,world class LB,world class midfielders,at left they plays Marcelo,cuz they dont have a world class player there,their striker Higuain is great for La Liga but in champions he is not enough.

i agree with you on useful players,but i have to add something one word to it,quality,useful players with quality...

Real forgot to sign these kind of player who could make them a team...Real didnt sign Ferdinand or Vidic,Real didnt sign Essien,Real didnt sign Torres,Real didnt sign Gerrard,Real didnt sign Hernanes e.t.c.
for instance Silva of Valencia would be perfect signing for them for midfield,with a player like Gerrard or a complete midfield,with Ronaldo at right,Their midfield would be more balanced,in attack,Fernando Torres would be nice to them...they would be more a team like this...with a Left wing back and CB,they would be complete,instead of signing Kaka and Benzema,they had better to sign these kind of players...Everything would be different...

There aren't 50 WC players in the world ...
What do you think ? Seriously, in which world do you live (no offense) ?

If you really think it's possible for a club to sign, for example (and from some of these names, they are not all WC for me): Buffon, Vidic, Essien, C.Ronaldo (or Messi), Villa (or Torres), Maicon, Kaka' (or Silva), Gerrard and Rooney, then, you're in a dream ...

These so called WC players they sold, from your point of view, are Huntelaar and Sneijder ? Or Robben ? These guys were either useless (Sneijder), or injured (Huntelaar when coming and Robben every 2 games). The only player among them who should have deserved to play more was of course Huntelaar because he fitted more in their system than in ours nowadays and he scored many goals by being less used as in our club.

Real Madrid, with their current roster, could be the best team or among the best teams in the world ... if Pellegrini didn't have so much pressure to play all the stars together, which forces him to use them in the wrong position.

Anyway I'm sorry, but this discussion is going nowhere as what you ask is simply impossible, even for the richest clubs, so why could we do it when we're not among these clubs anymore ?

EDIT: Oh, I forgot, can you give me a name of a WC left-back please ? And don't tell me Ashley Cole or Evra please ? I'm just curious because for me, there is none nowadays ...