Banter 2009/2010

Originally Posted by MilanMikey

What happened to all the hype around Kerlon? Around the time we were buying pato there was alot of hype about this kid he's a really great player and cheap.. plays for ajax now im pretty sure and is 21-22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Yj7GoXPZw

Poor boy... When he was promoted to Cruzeiro professional squad, had a terrible injure(a nasty broken ankle) and was out of the pitch for more than one year .

After come back to football, with just some months of play, had a Ronaldo like knee injure. One year out... Come back again and had another knee injure.

After that(recovery from the third big injure), saw him at Chievo. Today, I have my doubts his body(ankle and knees) can support the demands of professional football again.

Didn't know he is at Ajax, and I hope to be proved wrong(regarding his physical condition), because that was a impressive young player. Shame people that never saw him, used to bash the kid focusing on the so famous "seal dribble", and saying "this can't work in EPL, Serie A, La Liga"...

Kerlon was a amazing AMD with a very good work rate. His game was much more than that dribble. The only knock was his body(Deco's like), and if it wasn't for his 3 big injures, I have no doubt he would be shinning in Europe today.

Originally Posted by Rabia15

i think the young player who is called as Silva's heir is Rodrigo Ely...

I understood... I was talking about Gerson, because he is the 17yo CB that is hyped a lot at Grêmio, Rabia... Btw, never impressed me.
So, or we found a gem that even Grêmio's people didn't rate that high, or we did another questionable business in my Brazil.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy...for-edin-dezko. This I believe , he is overpriced but Wolfsburg are in the power position would of loved to have seen him at Milan but there is no way this happen.
I guess this is for all my Bosnian brother's on here I know alot of you said he will come he already has a deal he loves Milan , but he is not out of contract and will not come of his own choosing no money no deal....Bye Bye EDIN DZEKO.

I think we could all seen this one coming. I mean, Dzeko is hot commodity around european soccer and when was the last time we signed someone like that? Here is the REAL target we are signing next season, embrace and enjoy:

http://www.footballpress.net/?action=read&idsel=57371

Originally Posted by slifersd

I think we could all seen this one coming. I mean, Dzeko is hot commodity around european soccer and when was the last time we signed someone like that? Here is the REAL target we are signing next season, embrace and enjoy:

http://www.footballpress.net/?action=read&idsel=57371

If we want a free forward in Germany, Kevin Kuranyi is better & 1 year younger. He is the current top scorer of Bundesliga (18 goals along with Kiesßling & Dzeko)

Cacau's only advantage is he can also play on the wings.

So we are after a 29 year old who will be 30 in march has 73 career goal's in 12 year's and has never set anywhere on fire ....WHOOOOOOOOOPS How did I miss he is out of contract and free , If it's true then that mean's that we will sign Yepes 34 and free never played for a top club and maybe Cacau almost 30 and again free never playing for a top club , well this is it you try to be positive you try not to be negative it's only an article but sh1t its Milan MGT all over sup-par free aging players not that old but still gonna be 30 next year....And before people say he is good he will be good for free or backup he will not make a difference will not be backup and look at the names we are linked to Torres , Dzeko , Hernanes , Krasic , Marchetti , Vidic , Ramos and and and who do we sign Yepes 34 and never thought to be good before he is in Milan , Cacau a very average striker with 73 goals in 12 year's wow lets have a fuking party.

Hey just thought If Hunter or Borri go and Cacau comes in with Yepes and Kaladze gone they will actually of made the squad older , fuking idiots...sorry for the language but its ridiculous.

so hear we go again YEPES 34 FREE AGENT CACAU 30 FREE AGENT
i WILL KILL MY SELF

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

So we are after a 29 year old who will be 30 in march has 73 career goal's in 12 year's and has never set anywhere on fire ....WHOOOOOOOOOPS How did I miss he is out of contract and free , If it's true then that mean's that we will sign Yepes 34 and free never played for a top club and maybe Cacau almost 30 and again free never playing for a top club , well this is it you try to be positive you try not to be negative it's only an article but sh1t its Milan MGT all over sup-par free aging players not that old but still gonna be 30 next year....And before people say he is good he will be good for free or backup he will not make a difference will not be backup and look at the names we are linked to Torres , Dzeko , Hernanes , Krasic , Marchetti , Vidic , Ramos and and and who do we sign Yepes 34 and never thought to be good before he is in Milan , Cacau a very average striker with 73 goals in 12 year's wow lets have a fuking party.

Originally Posted by DUCO

so hear we go again YEPES 34 FREE AGENT CACAU 30 FREE AGENT
i WILL KILL MY SELF

Be calm, mates

Because:
1. There's no big transfer can be comleted in this time of season.
2. Our problems are not only the lack of world class players but also the lack of depth.

Yepes is good for 4, 5th CB
Cacau can be a sub for Pato, as he can play at centre and on the wings.
It is OK if we have another free transfer for midfielder, such as Joe Cole or Ballack.

Originally Posted by Aficio

Be calm, mates

Because:
1. There's no big transfer can be comleted in this time of season.
2. Our problems are not only the lack of world class players but also the lack of depth.

Yepes is good for 4, 5th CB
Cacau can be a sub for Pato, as he can play at centre and on the wings.
It is OK if we have another free transfer for midfielder, such as Joe Cole or Ballack.

your failing to see the obvious old free and at milan , the way they are working now is the way the summer will go , look if im standng over an eaten chocolate cake with chocolate on my face hands and breath I ate the cake....Milan only want to sign free half decent players ....its the 6th of april I bet anybody on here that either Deco or Ballack is at AC Milan next any m oney I guarantee it....they were not signed as backup if cacau comes they were signed as viable starters , you can only be fuked over so much by something you love , the amount of money Milan have made and the amount they spend doesnt add up , far be it from me to say but I think finnivest and mediaset are seing alot more of AC Milan's money than Milan are....if you think Milan will sign Yepes and Cacau and then go out and sign Ramos/Ranocchia/Vidic and Torres/Dzeko the my brother you are a simple simple idiot.....K

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

your failing to see the obvious old free and at milan , the way they are working now is the way the summer will go , look if im standng over an eaten chocolate cake with chocolate on my face hands and breath I ate the cake....Milan only want to sign free half decent players ....its the 6th of april I bet anybody on here that either Deco or Ballack is at AC Milan next any m oney I guarantee it....they were not signed as backup if cacau comes they were signed as viable starters , you can only be fuked over so much by something you love , the amount of money Milan have made and the amount they spend doesnt add up , far be it from me to say but I think finnivest and mediaset are seing alot more of AC Milan's money than Milan are....if you think Milan will sign Yepes and Cacau and then go out and sign Ramos/Ranocchia/Vidic and Torres/Dzeko the my brother you are a simple simple idiot.....K

There are "fact" & "assumption".

As a fan, we could only be sure when something is already official, then we call it a fact.

All others are assumptions.

Do you know about "gamble fallacy"? If you tossed a coin 11 times and received 11 head, maybe you'd think that the 12th has great chance to be tail. However, the chance of head/tail this time is 50/50.

I don't believe in B & G but I don't prejudice about them. Yes, they were stingy, but could you tell me a season when they didn't bring us quality players?


I can't "think" of anything, Milan didn't, doesn't and won't pay me to do so, I'm just making assumptions, like any other fans.

Of course, I want to see the year of Pippo, Nesta, Rui, Rivaldo, Seedorf, Pirlo, Tomasson all coming, but if we only sign Yepes, Cacau, Gallas, Ballack, Astori, Paloschi,... I still support this team and won't let that affect me much. It doesn't mean I lost the passion, I just try to understand the situation.

Torres, Ramos, Vidic are all jokes but Dzeko is a little possible. At least many people think so. And about Ranocchia, he can't stand with Ramos, Vidic yet, he has only one half season good. If you remenber, Bonera & Ferrari together made a wonderful CB pair for Parma for 2 seasons, and where & how are they now?

This year, Serie A is more competitive and this trend will continue.

Champion League now is more competitive than ever. This is the most profitable trophy, all big clubs want it.

Even with big investment, we can't win trophy right away. Milan needs 1, 2 seasons more to rebuild the system.

Galliani has begun with youth teams and it is promising. Yepes is not a great buy, but if Milan are this active when all big teams are doing nothing, we should count that as a good sign.

Our patience has been challenged since Calciopoli, 4 years already. No wonder why many of you are angry, but for next season, it is still early.

If we sign Yepes in July, I don't think you'd be this angry .

Pato changed his agent and the first thing that came out from his mouth is that both Chelsea and Madrid have officially contacted Milan about the possibility of buying Pato. He also said that while it may not happen at present, Pato could leave because he's not happy with our team's result. (source: footballpress.net)

Now ain't that a good thing to hear when we're in this final sprint in seri A? It's simply disgusting to see how some bloodsucking agents behave nowadays..

Originally Posted by Aficio

There are "fact" & "assumption".

As a fan, we could only be sure when something is already official, then we call it a fact.

All others are assumptions.

Do you know about "gamble fallacy"? If you tossed a coin 11 times and received 11 head, maybe you'd think that the 12th has great chance to be tail. However, the chance of head/tail this time is 50/50.

I don't believe in B & G but I don't prejudice about them. Yes, they were stingy, but could you tell me a season when they didn't bring us quality players?


I can't "think" of anything, Milan didn't, doesn't and won't pay me to do so, I'm just making assumptions, like any other fans.

Of course, I want to see the year of Pippo, Nesta, Rui, Rivaldo, Seedorf, Pirlo, Tomasson all coming, but if we only sign Yepes, Cacau, Gallas, Ballack, Astori, Paloschi,... I still support this team and won't let that affect me much. It doesn't mean I lost the passion, I just try to understand the situation.

Torres, Ramos, Vidic are all jokes but Dzeko is a little possible. At least many people think so. And about Ranocchia, he can't stand with Ramos, Vidic yet, he has only one half season good. If you remenber, Bonera & Ferrari together made a wonderful CB pair for Parma for 2 seasons, and where & how are they now?

This year, Serie A is more competitive and this trend will continue.

Champion League now is more competitive than ever. This is the most profitable trophy, all big clubs want it.

Even with big investment, we can't win trophy right away. Milan needs 1, 2 seasons more to rebuild the system.

Galliani has begun with youth teams and it is promising. Yepes is not a great buy, but if Milan are this active when all big teams are doing nothing, we should count that as a good sign.

Our patience has been challenged since Calciopoli, 4 years already. No wonder why many of you are angry, but for next season, it is still early.

If we sign Yepes in July, I don't think you'd be this angry .

I hear ya...
But there is a difference between tossing a coin and actual actions , and you mentioned fact .Fact is Milan are only looking serious about free player's Fact is Milan have sold two of there best players in there history for huge amoints of money and failed to replace them.
Fact is they have gotten cheap look at Cissokho , fact is the squad is not good enough the wages are huge and alot of the players don't deserve what they get paid....Fact is we only go on what we see and what we see isn't very promising or good.

Pato did not just switch a normal agent, he is the worse one of all for all MGT.
Quite frankly, I think Pato will either get a huge raise or force himself out of Milan this summer, as they are plenty of takers and a WC year is always the best time to sell as prices tend to be more inflated than any other times.

I think Pato, Torres, Dzeko and Benzema will headline the strikers transfer this summer. I believe that Pato will most likely end up either at Chelsea with Dzeko or playing ball with Messi and CO at Barcelona.

We're being linked with Cacau who is a pretty decent player and is free and has a German passport. The only condition I would welcome Cacau to Milan is if he was NOT a replacement for anyone. Cacau should come and be an extra addition to the team. He can be Seedorf's replacement and can also play on either of the attacking flanks. He should not replace Pippo as many believe will happen.

I'm also kind of worried and disappointed after Braida recently praising Huntelaar, I'm worried they will keep him and decide against going for Dzeko (or someone else that we desperately need).

Here's a thought; Leonardo's long term plan is to phase out the Pirlo role. We won't be signing a Pirlo replacement because we won't be needing that type of player anymore.

These are the roles on Leo's Milan:

-------------------------GK
------------Leader CB------Athletic CB
Attacking FB-------------------------Attacking FB
--------------Tough DM-----Tough DM
------------------All Round MF
Winger--------------------------------Winger
------------------Target Man


Pirlo and Seedorf both fit the All Round MF role, but we need two tough DMs to balance out the team. We can't play with both Seedorf and Pirlo in the middle, or we'll have more laughable defensive displays like we did with Cagliari (the problem there had less to do with the defense, than with the lack of protection from midfield).


Edit: I really wouldn't mind selling Pato+Huntelaar if it means we get Dzeko+Krasic + a great FB.