Banter 2009/2010

Signing Mancini permanently would be a very poor decision. Hopefully it's just a rumour.

Originally Posted by kastriot

My view as how we could fix our problems, be a contender and invest cleverly for next mercato.

Yepes and Godin for the back with 0 investment, Simplicio for the midfield 0 investment

Hernanes - 15-20 mil
Dzeko - Huntelar (sold) plus at most 20 mil.
Fb -(the best will be scouting a cheap prospect) 5-10 mi max.

This is very realistic,very doable even for our stingy management

With 50 mil investment we can challenge for the scudetto for sure,even Cl if we are a bit lucky with injuries. Plus take in consideration that Dida,Kala,Favalli,Janku, Hunter most probably will be gone, so we cut a lot form the wage budget. The new comers should/will not earn 4 mil like Dida and Kaladze.

We can have this for next year

---------------------Abbiati/storari----------------------
Antonini/Abate --Nesta/bonera-T.S/godin--Tremulinas/Zambro

-----------Flamini/ambro------Simplicio/rinho/strasser------
----------------------Hernanes/pirlo------------

----------Pato/mancini----------------Dinho/De Vito/Seedorf-------
---------------------Dzeko/borriello/Paloschi-------------

What we have done?

We have ourself a great Box-to-Box midfilder(replacing seedorf) , we have a creative midfielder in Hernanes replacing Pirlo. We have our big CF in Dzeko, plus we have the FB we are waiting for so long. In winter we can address the CD problem properly and in summer find a replacement for Dinho. and the rebuilding is done.

Just a general question, but how good is Tremoulinas as I've never seen him. A youtube video of him would be nice if anyone knows of one.

I would play Pirlo ahead of Simplicio (who imo is a good squad player) in that lineup. Hernanes helps out defensively much more than Seedorf, so our midfield would be better balanced than it is now.

Selling Pato is a realistic option for the scum that leads Milan. Then they can invest 25mln from that and also sell Huntelaar for 15 and earn themselves more money.

Shame Milan fans have no balls to boycot the stadium! Sale of Pato for Benzema is a masterpiece of stupidity.

If we are to sell Pato, and I use a "If" because it's just rumours for moment, I hope we'll have learned from our mistake with Kaka' and as a consequence, we won't make a deal before the mercato but during it:
- by waiting and saying we don't want to sell, we'll be in a position allowing us to make a higher price (and comparing to other players sold during the mercato: it's the lesson of the difference of price between Kaka' and C.Ronaldo)
- by making it last, it will annoy the other club, and also the player himself who will have less time to acclimate to his new team and new country (which in other terms means: if they want the player, let's wait August, and actually, I mean that for this player especially, Pato, because for Kaladze, it's the contrary for example, once there is an offer, we should accept it immediately )

By doing that, we're sure to sell the player to a higher price OR keep him ... It's a win-win situation (we almost never buy players from the interested clubs, so even if the relationship between them and us suffers from that, who cares ?).

PS: If I were Galliani, I would call my friend Perez and ask him to buy Dzeko for 40M if he wants Pato, make a loan with Dzeko and an option to buy him for 25M, and then I would sell him Pato for 40M or 50M. This way, you get money from Pato, Dzeko for free (the first year), and if Dzeko fails, you just don't buy him ...

I just see us selling Pato for 50 - 60 million and spending nothing again except a free Cacau , nothing against Cacau but he is no way near the level of Pato and Pato has not even realised half of his potential. If Pato is sold it is the nail in the coffin because its not as if they will sel Pato for say 60 million and spend 25 + Hunter for Dzeko get Hernanes for say 17 and a LB/RB + a CB with the money. Do not forget last year when people didn't mind the Kaka sale or the Gourcuff sale after awhile because who we could sign we signed NO ONE to help us and this will be tha same. And the end for me maybe I love the club but this MGT is killing AC Milan they do not care about the club or the fans just profit.

Sure its just rumours but this is the same MGT that sold Sheva and didnt replace him that year , Sold Kaka and did nothing to replace him. And recently asked a 41 year retired player to come back and play. Wouldn't pay 3 mil extra for Fabiano because they would now only sign players younger than 25 and then sign Yepes at 34 nothing against him but talk about contradicting yourself not to mention the strong links with Cacau if he cost even 2 mil you would see no link .Cissokho couldnt sign because of his teeth and wouldnt be fit but they still wanted him for cheaper if there was something wrong just forget about him , and now Cissokho is playing well and helping OL to the CL last 4. This all is too familiar for me.

Edin Dzeko has a facebook...I sent him a message begging him to join Milan and asked him to ask Wolfsburg to snap back to reality and ask for a decent price of about 20-25m euro. He has too many friends on facebook, over 3,000 so I dont think he'll read the message but it's worth a shot..

He also is in the AC MILAN FANS group on facebook. This guy will stop at nothing to get to Milan I think.

Pato will not be sold, don't be absurd people. We shouldn't even think about it (yet), now we need to worry about losing Leonardo. That's my biggest concern.

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

Edin Dzeko has a facebook...I sent him a message begging him to join Milan and asked him to ask Wolfsburg to snap back to reality and ask for a decent price of about 20-25m euro. He has too many friends on facebook, over 3,000 so I dont think he'll read the message but it's worth a shot..

He also is in the AC MILAN FANS group on facebook. This guy will stop at nothing to get to Milan I think.

Pato will not be sold, don't be absurd people. We shouldn't even think about it (yet), now we need to worry about losing Leonardo. That's my biggest concern.

Nice attempt, we should maybe all spam his mailbox on Facebook with the same message ?!

Originally Posted by mrki

Selling Pato is a realistic option for the scum that leads Milan. Then they can invest 25mln from that and also sell Huntelaar for 15 and earn themselves more money.

Shame Milan fans have no balls to boycot the stadium! Sale of Pato for Benzema is a masterpiece of stupidity.

I doubt Pato will be sold in the summer despite CDS's latest story.

I do agree the sale of Pato is a masterpiece in stupidity (even moreso if we keep Mancini).

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

Signing Mancini permanently would be a very poor decision. Hopefully it's just a rumour.



Just a general question, but how good is Tremoulinas as I've never seen him. A youtube video of him would be nice if anyone knows of one.

I would play Pirlo ahead of Simplicio (who imo is a good squad player) in that lineup. Hernanes helps out defensively much more than Seedorf, so our midfield would be better balanced than it is now.

Geo will be the one to make a better judgment, but from what I`ve seen he has a perfect cross,and we really really lack good crosses in the box. and should come for a fair price, since the Bordo fairy tail is over, they lost to Lyon, they are loosing the title to marseille...Blanc,Yoan and Chamakh are leaving most probably. So I guess he can push his way out of the club if we let him know we are seriously interested in him.

http://www.football-italia.net/apr15j.html.Its all here sacrificing Pato to put a gloss on the balance sheet. Would of sold him to Chelsea last year for 45 million but didnt because of fan protests at Kaka transfer. Making less revenue than last year a fifth less wow I wonder why maybe because the scum sold our best player and they'll do the same this summer these are the exact same statements as last year if Pato goes it will signify the death of AC Milan because the BOOKS YES AGAIN THE BOOKS are being used as the reason so none of it will be spent great sell Kaka get no replacement sell pato get no replacement Cacau and Mancini are sh1t yes sh1t compared to Pato , Cacau is nearly 30 and is a striker and has how many career goal less than 80 .....I fuking hate Berlusconi and the rest of the retards that line their own pockets ....SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM .

Originally Posted by kastriot

My view as how we could fix our problems, be a contender and invest cleverly for next mercato.

Yepes and Godin for the back with 0 investment, Simplicio for the midfield 0 investment

Hernanes - 15-20 mil
Dzeko - Huntelar (sold) plus at most 20 mil.
Fb -(the best will be scouting a cheap prospect) 5-10 mi max.

This is very realistic,very doable even for our stingy management

With 50 mil investment we can challenge for the scudetto for sure,even Cl if we are a bit lucky with injuries. Plus take in consideration that Dida,Kala,Favalli,Janku, Hunter most probably will be gone, so we cut a lot form the wage budget. The new comers should/will not earn 4 mil like Dida and Kaladze.

We can have this for next year

---------------------Abbiati/storari----------------------
Antonini/Abate --Nesta/bonera-T.S/godin--Tremulinas/Zambro

-----------Flamini/ambro------Simplicio/rinho/strasser------
----------------------Hernanes/pirlo------------

----------Pato/mancini----------------Dinho/De Vito/Seedorf-------
---------------------Dzeko/borriello/Paloschi-------------

What we have done?

We have ourself a great Box-to-Box midfilder(replacing seedorf) , we have a creative midfielder in Hernanes replacing Pirlo. We have our big CF in Dzeko, plus we have the FB we are waiting for so long. In winter we can address the CD problem properly and in summer find a replacement for Dinho. and the rebuilding is done.

it can be a problem not signing a real replacement for Pato and Dinho...Mancini is good winger but for 4-3-3 he is not the typee of player we need...

We need a player like Pato or Messi,movement to the box and finishing,creating chances e.t.c.this is why Leo played Huntelaar over there instead Mancini because of his finishing and movement to the box...

For the rest of the squad,its great,maybe signing Dzeko will be hard cuz he costs 40 m euros now...

Hernanes,Trem,Simplicio are all quality players and i want them too...

Originally Posted by Rabia15

it can be a problem not signing a real replacement for Pato and Dinho...Mancini is good winger but for 4-3-3 he is not the typee of player we need...

We need a player like Pato or Messi,movement to the box and finishing,creating chances e.t.c.this is why Leo played Huntelaar over there instead Mancini because of his finishing and movement to the box...

For the rest of the squad,its great,maybe signing Dzeko will be hard cuz he costs 40 m euros now...

Hernanes,Trem,Simplicio are all quality players and i want them too...

Signing Dzeko will be hard...But Galliani is sneaky SOB...and I`m hoping that he can make dzeko force Wolf`s to sell to us for 30 mil which actually is good for both teams..This is daydreaming but very possible(we need Dzekos help tho.)

Considering that Dzeko will not be playing in the WC, I really doubt there is any chance that his price can decrease esp since ManCity would love to sign him. NOt to mention ManU, having first hand exp on what type of player he is.

If there focusing on youth why would they sell Pato???? also focusing on youth Yepes Cacau???(hasn't arrived I know but hey he's free and not a prolific scorer) I know you need to maintain your squad but these are odd moves when they wouldn't sign Fabiano last summer because at 28 he was too old. Arsenal have a great youth academy so do Barcelona but in developing youth they also in this time signed- Van Persie , Arshavin , Nasri , Adebayor , Gilberto Silva , Vermaellen, Eduardo a few for Arsenal , and Abidal , Alves , Milito , Keita , Toure , Henry , Ibrahimovic, Maxwell a few for Barca .

So while developing the likes of Clichy , Denilson , Song , Bendtner , Diaby , Lass Diarra , Messi , Pedro , Iniesta , Busquets , Bojan both these teams remained active with very good signings. Where Milan will sell there best players and try and convince the fan's that its for the books and has to be done or else the sea's will dry up the sky will fall and it will be the end of mankind....something isn't adding up and we the fan's who pump alot of money into Milan collectively are being disrespected and treated like idiots.

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

the sea's will dry up the sky will fall and it will be the end of mankind

That's 2012

But seriously, for years he was willing to spend and now he doesn't want to. The real problem is how he is selling it, 'champions' 'balancing the books', etc

Originally Posted by Reza

That's 2012

But seriously, for years he was willing to spend and now he doesn't want to. The real problem is how he is selling it, 'champions' 'balancing the books', etc

Thats what is annoying us he can't seriously expect the squad to do better than it has. But we are talking about a 70+ year old man who wears a toupee fake eyelashes makeup and hangs out with 18 year old prostitutes, should we really expect any sense from him it looks as if he thinks I gave Milan enough now its time for me to get paid.Because even though he doesn't have the day to day responsibility of running the club it is his money.I knew he was a selfish man but I thought he was a very proud man and he cannot be proud of what the team has become its clear that everyone in the world see's Milan as a retirement home these day's. Player's aged 30 and over must all dance and sing when there agent say's Milan are interested.