Banter 2009/2010

@Brasileiro , I in no way want Pato to leave he is an awesome talent and hasn't even realised 2/5 of how good he can be, he has scored 12 goals in the league from only about 23 games from the RW.
Letting Pato go now will be a crime and I don't think he will not this year at least . But with our MGT scum circus who know's. But then if Pato want's to leave and asks to leave then that is different but he has only said things about Milan about helping Milan and nothing about leaving.To sell him for books that will be a con on us and lies.

Kaka never wanted to leave remember Jay, he was forced out of the door by Berlu and Galliani

Originally Posted by Kaka1899

Kaka never wanted to leave remember Jay, he was forced out of the door by Berlu and Galliani

I did not say he wanted to leave did you think i did ?? you may have thought that ,I was saying if Pato wants to leave and asks to leave then well no1 wants an unhappy player.

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

@Brasileiro , I in no way want Pato to leave he is an awesome talent and hasn't even realised 2/5 of how good he can be, he has scored 12 goals in the league from only about 23 games from the RW.

I know Jay, and I don't meant it. Sorry if I pass this impression on my post. I was just disconcerted with our friends here in MM even cogitating this possibility. It was not for you...

Originally Posted by bayern

@brasileiro
What is all the hype about with this Santos team, ever since they still have to prove what they can do,...

The hype is deserved, bayern... even though they still need to win a championship, they are in the semi's of Paulistão and had passed to the other round(Guarani cannot revert a 8 x 1) of Copa do Brazil. You cannot ask for more of this Santos team because it's their first 3 months as a team.

Look at the numbers:
90 goals in 26 games if I'm not wrong... and before someone say that Brazilian football is different, offensive(what isn't a true fact, we have several styles of play in Brazil) no other team here is close to this numbers, period. Also, keep in mind they(Santos) don't have a great CB pair, play with 2 offensive fullback, had one DM(that wasn't a holder) and two #10 on midfield, and only yesterday receive the first goal in Copa do Brazil.

Corithians, São Paulo, Palmeiras faced the same teams in Paulistão and don't scored like Santos. They can't do it, because they don't have the amount of talent and because of coaching style. Santos is coached to put pressure on teams at their(opponent) own field, like Barça. Also, they are hungry, and as the last game showed one more time, they finished the first-half 4 x 0, but came back even more hungry in the second... It was a game for 12 x 1 to be fair. After a Santos game, in every opponent interview, you can see how impotent they felt themselves after play against them. You feel bad for the guys...

Look, I'm not a Santos supporter(I even have a personal reason to dislike them), but I hope they won Paulistão and Copa do Brazil this year, to show people like Dunga, that you can play amazing football and to be competitive.

I mean, yes, Neymar is outstaning (but way too arrogant), Felipe looks great, but what it is with Ganso ? Has he been part of the Sub 20 for Brazil last year ?

Nahhhh, man... Neymar isn't arrogant, far from that. All reports that I get said he's a down to earth and very likable kid. Don't let his hairstyle and dances after the goals lead you. Neymar knows he's good, and is showing it on the field, scoring a lot, and playing amazing football(without useless tricks).

Thats why I don't want to see this boy in Spain. The day he will have a drop of form(every young player has one), people and press will start to say he's a party boy, or do what they are doing with Kaká right now. The guy is in a risk of don't even play for Brazil at WC with a dangerous injure, and they are saying he's saving himself for WC. If it was the case, he would have made a surgery early to save himself for WC. Now, he's really in jeopardy to not have condition to play in South Africa...

Yep, Ganso played the last sub 20 for Brazil, and was a HUGE deception. But shows improvements this year. Still need to shine against better competition and tight mark, but is a amazing talent. Felipe imo still didn't live to the hype. I'm not bashing, just think he's too green for Europe.

Jucilei is a monster, a god. He set up the goal for Dentinho (who finally can decide games), he is a player I cannot describe. He is the owner of Corinthians midfield. Just get him to Europe this summer, using the Pre-Season for tactics and then he will produce...

Not only set up Dentinho's goal with a great play, but also steal the ball on the midfield and cross(pass) on the head of Elias for the second. A monster!!

More important, a monster in Libertadores games out of Brazil, where several players that are shinning in Europe right now, choked. I have no doubt, this boy is a sure bet for a big club in Europe. Wake up, Milan!! He's still on our budget reach!!!

Blog: Will they never learn?
Scott Fleming argues that replacing Leonardo with Mauro Tassotti would be further evidence of the Milan hierarchy’s incompetence




Milan stood at a crossroads last summer. Legendary captain Paolo Maldini had brought his glittering career to a close, star man Kaka had become a Galactico, and Coach Carlo Ancelotti had moved to Chelsea after eight years with the Rossoneri.

The heart of the club had been ripped out, so how did the board respond? By appointing a novice tactician in the form of Leonardo, and embarking on another transfer campaign that promised much but delivered little.

All things considered Leonardo hasn’t done too badly this term. Although the Champions League adventure ended in humiliation, any team that has their say in the Scudetto race whilst having to field the likes of 38-year-old full-back Giuseppe Favalli in central defence surely deserves some credit.

However, I would argue that Milan’s small measure of success this season isn’t thanks to the board’s decisions, but in spite of them. Did Silvio Berlusconi and Adriano Galliani really appoint Leonardo because of his tactical acumen, or because he was the cheap option? Perhaps I’m a cynic, but I strongly suspect the latter.

Remember this is the club that seemed to have the signings of Aly Cissokho, Edin Dzeko and Luis Fabiano wrapped up last summer, only for all three deals to collapse due to the Diavolo’s embarrassing quibbling over the financial details.

Now, if reports are to be believed, they’re at it again. Leonardo is reputedly sick of Berlusconi’s barbed comments and interference, and will quit at the season’s end. Milan’s ‘masterplan’ in the event of the Brazilian’s departure, is to appoint current assistant boss Mauro Tassotti in his place.

Some might find it touching to see the job kept within the ‘Milan family’, but in my view the tifosi are being short-changed badly for the second summer running.

How long can Berlusconi, Galliani and Co continue to insult the supporters’ intelligence? Are Milan fans to believe that a club like theirs, with its glorious past and global fan base, can’t attract a better candidate than Tassotti?

No disrespect to the man, but he should earn the job by excelling on another Serie A bench. We all know Pep Guardiola performed miracles despite a lack of experience, but that shouldn’t give Presidents carte blanche to appoint any old ex-player.

The Milan hierarchy can’t continue to short change the club – not without consequences at least.

Whilst they have been penny pinching the likes of Napoli, Genoa and Palermo have been spending big. If the board isn’t careful the Rossoneri will be left behind, and just qualifying for the Champions League each season will be a tall order.

Jeez, looks like every big club in Europe go bananas about that Neymar kid. City, Chelsea, Madrid, Juve, even, ahem, Milan

Never seen him play even for once though, but I hope they're dubbing him as "the new Robinho" due to the similar playing style and not the attitude.

Anyway, now that he can talk with Robinho in person I think he will think twice before moving to Madrid or any club in Premier League. Although that doesn't necessarily mean we have a bigger chance to get him

No bother Brasileiro I get you hard to get one's point across on the web sometimes but I agree with you bro.

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

I find it strange people in MM are accepting a Pato exchange for other player and money. He had a injured plagued season, but don't forget what he did on the field this year, and playing as a RW!!! Let's just see what will happen with our team when Pato come back now.
People, don let the injures of this year get in your head. You can't find a Pato type of talent in every generation... not even in Brazil.

You know, I'm the first to say that Pato did more than well regarding his injuries and the position he had to learn ...

If Leo had managed to use Ronaldinho as a center AM or to play without him (which wasn't possible), he could have used Pato as one of our strikers and even with these injuries, he would probably have done a 20+ goals season ...

Then, about accepting it or not, what will that change actually ?
I wouldn't accept to sell him, but accepting it or not won't change the decision done by Galliani and co (anyway, it's just rumours for moment) ... so personnally, in one of my last posts, I tried to look at the best solution IF we were to sell him.

Anyway, if we want the club to invest again, maybe it should come from the players: if Pirlo, Ronaldinho, Pato, Nesta, Thiago Silva and Ambrosini ask for a competitive squad all together with Leo, and threaten the club to leave if nothing is done, maybe they will react because we can sell one of them, we can't lose them all ...

You know I wonder what the players think of this , some will be fine and think at least i can play but guys like Pato Silva Flamini must be looking for a way out , it is AC Milan but meh the team is going nowhere in regards winning things.

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

You know I wonder what the players think of this , some will be fine and think at least i can play but guys like Pato Silva Flamini must be looking for a way out , it is AC Milan but meh the team is going nowhere in regards winning things.

I think the young players want a competitive team (the three you wrote), and guys like Pirlo, Ambrosini or Ronaldinho know their place isn't really threatened by new players as our first needs are not for their positions (even if we need new players in their position too, but for me, not the first goals for the mercato).

Ambrosini is the captain, he has to show it.

PS: I play a FM game, and it looks like I'm in the "bad future" game of Milan, the club sells some players and buys useless players for peanuts (N'Gog for 3M for example ). I hope that will never happen !!

im all for selling pato again if we can re-invest the money give me benzema plus 30 Mill i think thats fair plus real madrid doesnt know how to utilize there players i mean i remember when raul would start before higuain i mean is that a joke?, i think karim is more durable and taller to play in serie a pato would be great in la liga because it wide open as hell and defenses are horrible, remember everybody barcelona's old set up would have two target men Henry,Eto'o OR Henry,Ibra now, what i want to know what the hell is going to happen with paloschi?, and astori both players are important as hell, with the money we get from the sale of pato can be used to buy..Hernanes,Crescito,D'Agostino?,S.Ramos?, he's been seen at clubs in Milano with Oddo now ima show you what i've thought up? d'agostino whats going on? and aquilani alott of liverpool fans are upset and liverpool will be in uefa cup next season THEY WILL BE FORCED TO SELL BECAUSE OF THIS!




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----------------------------------Abbiati------------------------------------------

Abate/Crescito---------Silva/Yepes-----Nesta/Astori/---De Vito/S.Ramos/Zambrotta



---Hernanes/Ambro/Aquilani?--------------Flamini/Gattuso/D'Agostino?----------


-------------------------Pirlo/Seedorf----------------------------------------




R80/Paloschi/Adiyah---------------------------Benzema/Verdi/Mancini----------------



---------------------Borri/Zigoni/Benzema (6'0")-------------------------


i think thats's one hell of a team with a ton of balance and speed more physical and a high work rate?

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

Insider is good... LOL
But until now, no reliable source in Brazil is talking about it. I hope it's true and for Leo to be the man negotiating, because thats can make the negotiation more friendly. If anything new and reliable appear here in Brazil, I will let you guys know...

Great! the renegotiating is taking place so secretively that nobody in Brazil knows (& no other clubs know either!) keep us posted man, (with GOOD news ) ..

Benzema 5 goals in 16 games played as a striker
Pato 12 in 23 as a RW
Benzema's goals are supported by a team FULL of actual young superstars (not our "proven champions" )
Pato's goals compensate for the activities of the Favallinhos and Abates

No comparison

Deciding point: Berlu is going to take any money that Real will offer and try to get the finest grade of broad he can find.
No thanks..we're trying to pick up the pieces and rebuild an identity after losing Paolo, Carlo and Ricardo...not re-shatter our team by flippantly dispensing with our youngest and brightest star starter.

Pato is not worth more than 30mill so if Real are offering 55mill + Benzema we would be stupid not to take it. Pato is not the next Messi, Pato has technical ability but he lacks Messi footballing brain, he will never be anything like Messi. If the 4-3-3 only works with Pato then the solution is to change the formation for the new players. Pato at his young age is already an injury prone player, that is not a good sign.

He also does not seem very loyal to Milan, if he had a chance to go to Chelsea or Real he will take it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h9aiybJcVo
una magia by verdi...
abauth pato I m afraid thet we gona sell him because we have Mansini for the nexst seson