Banter 2009/2010

Hitman, it's not official as Italy can still hold on to its third spot if the following happens:

- Hamburg loses today against Fulham
- Inter beats Bayern in the final

If that happens, Italy will stay on top of Germany

Italy - 64.357 (with Inter win over Bayern)
Germany - 64.207 (if Hamburg loses today and Bayern loses in the final)

Originally Posted by Arildonardo

How easy is it to sell an overpaid, underperforming, old player who's got 2-3 years left on his contract and won't take a pay-cut? Not that easy I guess... Not talking about Abbiati now, just in general.

Of course it's not easy but it's also not extremely hard. What makes situation worse is Milan players behave like they are king and unfortunately the Milan management agree with the players. If the players still want to play with Milan, they can play as long as they want. The players need only to say : "I don't want to move to other club.

Some of members here have to get serious and act like a mature men. All I read is spend, spend, spend, like the money Berlusconi have falls from sky or something.

I don't know why it's all negative among Milan fans, for God's sake Inter hasn't won CL since 1965, that's 45 years! They haven't won Serie A from 1990 until 2005! 15 years! Imagine how their fans felt.
On the other hand, Berlusconi and Galliani made an empire that was 8 times (count them: eight) in CL finals in just 18 years!

If Leonardo is sacked, it wasn't because B & G doesn't want to spend in the summer, believe me. What the f.ck is Leonardo?! Some holy paper?! I also want him to be sacked and I'm a Milan fan, and I'm not the only one!

Leonardo isn't and idiot, just like Berlusconi and Galliani are not a couple of idiots, every one of them knows the situation in the club. The hell with it, even Mourinho can't tell Moratti "I want this and this and this, or I'll go", but he's creating team just like puzzle, part by part. Last year, when they bought Sneijder, Moratti said "He wanted Sneijder, I think we don't need him, but I've bought him", and he didn't have to spend a cent because Ibrahimovic's transfer was enough to cover it all.

Wake up and think maturely and REAL. Money is earned, it doesn't falls from sky!

Originally Posted by Revolver

They haven't won Serie A from 1990 until 2005! 15 years! Imagine how their fans felt.

1988-89

And really, I don't count the paper scudetto of 05-06. 2006-7 was first. That's an 18 year span between lift the scudetto.

@ revolver, couldn't have said it any better myself. Seriously, what exactly has Leo done? I've said it before (and i hate to repeat it), until this guy gives the team an identity, his identity, or wins something with this sorry team, he hasn't achieved anything AND can't issue ultimatums to milan. He has an idea no doubt, bt if he can't be patient enough with B & G, he should leave.

Originally Posted by shegs1157

@ revolver, couldn't have said it any better myself. Seriously, what exactly has Leo done? I've said it before (and i hate to repeat it), until this guy gives the team an identity, his identity, or wins something with this sorry team, he hasn't achieved anything AND can't issue ultimatums to milan. He has an idea no doubt, bt if he can't be patient enough with B & G, he should leave.

Leo is not in MIlan only this season...He has been a Director and "Scout" since 2002-2003....During this glorious period he has been arguably our most successful "Employee" together with Carlo.

He is directly responisble for Kaka and Pato,Cisokho??,Yoan,Tiago S. etc....And a great coach prospect,a true gentleman.

That gives him the right to ask for smth(I`m sure it was not a ultimatum,he just gave his plans,which dosnt go well with Berlu...and he is fired, its not Leo leaving..he is beign pushed out.

Originally Posted by Revolver

Some of members here have to get serious and act like a mature men. All I read is spend, spend, spend, like the money Berlusconi have falls from sky or something.

I don't know why it's all negative among Milan fans, for God's sake Inter hasn't won CL since 1965, that's 45 years! They haven't won Serie A from 1990 until 2005! 15 years! Imagine how their fans felt.
On the other hand, Berlusconi and Galliani made an empire that was 8 times (count them: eight) in CL finals in just 18 years!

If Leonardo is sacked, it wasn't because B & G doesn't want to spend in the summer, believe me. What the f.ck is Leonardo?! Some holy paper?! I also want him to be sacked and I'm a Milan fan, and I'm not the only one!

Leonardo isn't and idiot, just like Berlusconi and Galliani are not a couple of idiots, every one of them knows the situation in the club. The hell with it, even Mourinho can't tell Moratti "I want this and this and this, or I'll go", but he's creating team just like puzzle, part by part. Last year, when they bought Sneijder, Moratti said "He wanted Sneijder, I think we don't need him, but I've bought him", and he didn't have to spend a cent because Ibrahimovic's transfer was enough to cover it all.

Wake up and think maturely and REAL. Money is earned, it doesn't falls from sky!

So, paulo maldini needs to mature as well, he says milan needs to invest in the squad. and fans does not want berlusconi to spend just for the fu*k of it, All the people are saying milan need to spend, not only fans but people who work in this domain.

Revolver we share the same passion which is milan, but there is no need to tell others to mature up just because they see milan needs to improve and rejuvenate their squad. and please stop comparing us to inter because it shows lack of belief in your team. i agree inter did not win for long time but they were trying hard to be successful, and now they are finally achieving this due to many reasons.

now where did u read that leonardo requested things in order to stay? i recall it was only report from GOAL.COM which we all agree its a crap website, so please get your facts straight and don't allow your self to be CRAPPED. if the reports are true then his requisitions were only to help milan. He asked to pay more attention to milan's medical staff, come on 190 injuries over the past 3 years are SCARY.

He wanted to replace the old players with younger, more hungry and less expensive waged players (donot you wants that?)

He wanted to have more control over transfer targets ? (kaka, pato, silva) vs (vogel, emerson, olieviera, hunteelar ...etc) who do you prefer?

he wanted to have more authority over players? come on you cant have 5 coaches in the same team!!!!

if the reports are to believed leonardo was making things right, he wasnot being stubborn at all, inter sold ibrahimovic and got 5 players instead, milan sold kaka and got a Miss hunteelar instead.

i just don't understand why you guys have so much on leonardo?

just stop hating.

Originally Posted by Lebanese

So, paulo maldini needs to mature as well, he says milan needs to invest in the squad. and fans does not want berlusconi to spend just for the fu*k of it, All the people are saying milan need to spend, not only fans but people who work in this domain.

Revolver we share the same passion which is milan, but there is no need to tell others to mature up just because they see milan needs to improve and rejuvenate their squad. and please stop compare us to inter because it shows lack of belief in your team. i agree inter did not win for long time but they were trying hard to be successful, and now they are finally achieving this due to many reasons.

now where did u read that leonardo requested things in order to stay? i recall it was only report from GOAL.COM which we all agree its a crap website, so please get your facts straight and don't allow your self to be CRAPPED. if the reports are true then his requisitions were only to help milan. He asked to pay more attention to milan's medical staff, come on 190 injuries over the past 3 years are SCARY.

He wanted to replace the old players with younger, more hungry and less expensive waged players (donot you wants that?)

He wanted to have more control over transfer targets ? (kaka, pato, silva) vs (vogel, emerson, olieviera, hunteelar ...etc) who do you prefer?

he wanted to have more authority over players? come on you cant have 5 coaches in the same team!!!!

if the reports are to believed leonardo was making things right, he wasnot being stubborn at all, inter sold ibrahimovic and got 5 players instead, milan sold kaka and got a Miss hunteelar instead.

i just don't understand why you guys have so much on leonardo?

just stop hating.

I believe you covered my thoughts there my friend.Especially the part about Inter sure they didnt win anything in years well Scuddetto or CL but they were trying and always looking to Improve there squad if Inter are still playing with this squad in 8 years time then compare Milan to Inter.We are not looking to better our situation well not us MGT and it isn't looking pretty , we have a 28 man squad 16 of which are over 30 , 11 are over 33 and 5 that never play thats a bad situation....as bad as can be me thinks.

Watching Aogo for Hamburg against Fulham. Looks a good player, strong, athletic, technically good, quick.

Fulham just scored...Good for the points business...still cant see myself supporting Inter against Bayern though

Originally Posted by nefremo

Hitman, it's not official as Italy can still hold on to its third spot if the following happens:

- Hamburg loses today against Fulham
- Inter beats Bayern in the final

If that happens, Italy will stay on top of Germany

Italy - 64.357 (with Inter win over Bayern)
Germany - 64.207 (if Hamburg loses today and Bayern loses in the final)

Fulham won! Its a final between Italy and Germany for the 4th CL spot (kind of).

Come on you inter mother fu**ers!

Originally Posted by K77SH C

Fulham won! Its a final between Italy and Germany for the 4th CL spot (kind of).

Come on you inter mother fu**ers!

So its legit the SCUM win and we have four again??

Aogo is a very underrated player. I think no one really rates him because he is in the shadow of Boateng, who is a very good CB talent, but he is wasted often as a right full back this season.

Aogo is without a doubt Hamburg best fullback, way before Boateng.
I think he would adapt some time in Milan, but could become a solid/good player.

Originally Posted by K77SH C

Fulham won! Its a final between Italy and Germany for the 4th CL spot (kind of).

Come on you inter mother fu**ers!

i'd rather end up in europa leauge and not watch them winning the cup.

On his wikipedia page, it says Andrea Lazzarri is signed by milan for 10 million euros. I like the signing as he is young and talented and didn't really cost much. He is no Kaka, but he is a lot better than whatever the hell we have right now.

On the Leonardo news, we all knew this was going to happen, so no surprise there. As Milan fans, we should all lower our expectations. Basically, we should be happy as long as we are not playing in Serie D. My expectations for this summer couldn't be any lower unless Berlusconi actually sells my gf for cash. Whatever, man, I will just have to start watching another team.

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

So its legit the SCUM win and we have four again??

According to the info Nefremo posted then yes.

Lebanese, I know what you mean. But sometimes momentum helps you predict the future and right now the scum have all the momentum in the world.

If they are going to win, then at least some good will come of it.

slifersd, wikipedia is no sources at all.