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Old 10-06-2010, 05:07   #736

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Im convinced he just wanted to win the champions league with a team of 17-21 year olds , just so he could say now im the special one i can win with kids....that or he has kinky sh1t going on with boys.....either way D.I.L.I.G.A.F
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Adriano of Sevilla and Diego Alves are both interested in the idea of joining us (both rumours from tribalfootball).

on milannews it says apparently there's no contact with Luis Fabiano who could now renew. Galliani has confirmed Pato will stay (who himself said it earlier) and says Allegri will be coach as soon as he's available.

Finally, the most interesting rumour off milannews is that Kaladze and Janku are proving to be problems. Both have rejected offers we have had so far and for us to get rid of them (if we can't sell them) is to terminate the contract with a heavy payment for wages. Oddo's in a similar situation but apparently more open to going back to Lazio.

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Finally, the most interesting rumour off milannews is that Kaladze and Janku are proving to be problems. Both have rejected offers we have had so far and for us to get rid of them (if we can't sell them) is to terminate the contract with a heavy payment for wages. Oddo's in a similar situation but apparently more open to going back to Lazio.
What a disrespect from Kala and Janku, both of them never fulfilled their potential with us,especially Janku, the other one we took for Dinamo Kiev and paid him for years 3-4 mil even though he was a substitute for years now. And now they`re trying to rip us.

Its sad how football has lost its soul over the years...where Are the Maldinis and Baresis of this generation.
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I see teams making signings and trying to make signings , and we talk about players always to see them go elsewhere , Krasic will be good for Juve when it goes through ....we dont even have a manager , but Janku and Kala really no pride ye have been told ye are not wanted and stick arounf just for $$$$$ rather than playing for a team that may want them.

Im not even looking for rumours anymore because we'll we have to sell to buy and we have nothing worth selling that we could sell , all we could sell for good money is Pato or Silva and thats not something i want to happen...and I dont see the point in selling one of Hunter, Borri , Flamini as we'd only get 10 - 15 million and not be able to buy anything we need , also Dinho I suppose but he isnt worth more than 10 million now so whatever.

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Its sad how football has lost its soul over the years...where Are the Maldinis and Baresis of this generation.
Those days are long gone my friend. Its all $$$ now. Kaka s departure from Milan just said it all. Its sad but thats how it is.
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I see teams making signings and trying to make signings , and we talk about players always to see them go elsewhere , Krasic will be good for Juve when it goes through ....we dont even have a manager , but Janku and Kala really no pride ye have been told ye are not wanted and stick arounf just for $$$$$ rather than playing for a team that may want them.

Im not even looking for rumours anymore because we'll we have to sell to buy and we have nothing worth selling that we could sell , all we could sell for good money is Pato or Silva and thats not something i want to happen...and I dont see the point in selling one of Hunter, Borri , Flamini as we'd only get 10 - 15 million and not be able to buy anything we need , also Dinho I suppose but he isnt worth more than 10 million now so whatever.
Jay, stop crying: yeah, there's still no new player in Milan, but what about the other clubs ?! You talk about Juv ? They'll have Pepe, wow, genius !! Oh and Gallas too (bad Cannavaro replaced by a worse Gallas) !! Youhou, Juv, you're on the road of victory (Serie B victory) ... Krasic ? So far, he's not from Juventus and rumours are about other clubs giving him huge contract.

As long as Allegri won't be officially our coach, we won't sign anyone I think (maybe Ganso as a gift for Allegri when he arrives ?).

Janku and Kaladze refusing offers is more problematic ... because, I'm very surprised about that, some clubs seem interested by them and could even give us some money for them, but these guys prefer keeping their warm chair in the stadium (not on the bench, in the stadium, yes) and not playing football during one year instead of going somewhere where they are wanted ?!
They have no respect for the club actually, not because of their level (I don't believe one second that a player can accept to leave because he thinks he's not good enough anymore to play in a club) but because players at the end of their contract, who know they won't get any renewal then, generally accept offers the year before to "thank" their club and allow them to earn some money thanks to them, at least, players with some kind of respect for their club do it. Obviously, Kaladze and Jankulovski are not like that.
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Old 10-06-2010, 09:04   #742

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Jay, stop crying: yeah, there's still no new player in Milan, but what about the other clubs ?! You talk about Juv ? They'll have Pepe, wow, genius !! Oh and Gallas too (bad Cannavaro replaced by a worse Gallas) !! Youhou, Juv, you're on the road of victory (Serie B victory) ... Krasic ? So far, he's not from Juventus and rumours are about other clubs giving him huge contract.

As long as Allegri won't be officially our coach, we won't sign anyone I think (maybe Ganso as a gift for Allegri when he arrives ?).

Janku and Kaladze refusing offers is more problematic ... because, I'm very surprised about that, some clubs seem interested by them and could even give us some money for them, but these guys prefer keeping their warm chair in the stadium (not on the bench, in the stadium, yes) and not playing football during one year instead of going somewhere where they are wanted ?!
They have no respect for the club actually, not because of their level (I don't believe one second that a player can accept to leave because he thinks he's not good enough anymore to play in a club) but because players at the end of their contract, who know they won't get any renewal then, generally accept offers the year before to "thank" their club and allow them to earn some money thanks to them, at least, players with some kind of respect for their club do it. Obviously, Kaladze and Jankulovski are not like that.
Guess we are not allowed an opinion hey Geo.Im not crying but being realistic I didnt say Juve will be great but they are trying to do what they can with what they have I dont care what they do.
And you think Ganso will arrive good for you , I dont infact id as far as say no one over 7 million or of any real use will arrive , we will sign a couple of players but not for 15 miliion or more no way it doesnt fit into the plan.....and i come here and post because i support Milan not many infact no one else i know does so i put my thoughts out there and sometimes i vent as do alot of members , so keep your stop crying comments to yourself ok.
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What a disrespect from Kala and Janku, both of them never fulfilled their potential with us,especially Janku, the other one we took for Dinamo Kiev and paid him for years 3-4 mil even though he was a substitute for years now. And now they`re trying to rip us.

Its sad how football has lost its soul over the years...where Are the Maldinis and Baresis of this generation.
Well, I wouldn't be that harsh on them. A contract is a two-way agreement. The club can't just sign long-term contracts and expect the players to agree to terminate it whenever the club wants.

When that is said, they probably understand their playing time in the future would be very limited at Milan. If they have any ambition as footballers, then I'm sure they will come to an agreement sooner or later.
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Guess we are not allowed an opinion hey Geo.Im not crying but being realistic I didnt say Juve will be great but they are trying to do what they can with what they have I dont care what they do.
And you think Ganso will arrive good for you , I dont infact id as far as say no one over 7 million or of any real use will arrive , we will sign a couple of players but not for 15 miliion or more no way it doesnt fit into the plan.....and i come here and post because i support Milan not many infact no one else i know does so i put my thoughts out there and sometimes i vent as do alot of members , so keep your stop crying comments to yourself ok.
You can have your opinion, you can think it, you can write it, you can do whatever you want to do with it, but why repeating twice a day the same thing ? If I read your last 10 posts, you say at least 9 times that we will buy no player, that we don't do anything while other clubs do ... The "stop crying" comes from that.

The fact is that no club, so far, has made one single good/great transfer (maybe only Real Madrid with Mourinho) !!

But despite that, Milan should have bought Hernanes, Ganso, Dzeko, Krasic, and all other good players that all clubs want/will want of course. And like it's hyped to do so nowadays, everyone criticizes the club for that (I will try to find some other clubs forum to see if they are criticized too by their fans for not having signed anyone yet). Galliani has made a terrible job the last 2-3 years ? Yes ... Does he do a terrible job right now ? I don't know, and noone knows, before already sending our club six feet under because of a bad mercato, let's wait the end of this mercato ?

Last year and the year before, Warro would have joined the discussion to say to everyone to keep cool ... Well, today, I say it: guys, keep cool, wait some days/weeks before doing nightmares (and enjoy the World Cup).

For your second paragraph, I think most of the people here are fans of Milan and have not 50 people around them supporting Milan too, it's a forum, people come to write their thoughts, it's true. But if a "stop crying" can make you upset (let me know if I'm wrong, but by reading your post, it looks like you're not happy because of this "stop crying" ...), then I don't know what to say ?!
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Didn't Janku say that this would be his last year for sure and that he would go back to his own country?

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Well, I wouldn't be that harsh on them. A contract is a two-way agreement. The club can't just sign long-term contracts and expect the players to agree to terminate it whenever the club wants.

When that is said, they probably understand their playing time in the future would be very limited at Milan. If they have any ambition as footballers, then I'm sure they will come to an agreement sooner or later.
I actually agree with that. It is not entirely their fault. When you have a super incompetent manager who gives you astronomical paychecks for doing nothing but warming bench, you would have all the incentive to stay put. Between "career" and "1 or half million pay", maybe "career"; but between "career" and "3 or 4 million pay guaranteed for 3 or 4 years", I say "screw the career".
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What a disrespect from Kala and Janku, both of them never fulfilled their potential with us,especially Janku, the other one we took for Dinamo Kiev and paid him for years 3-4 mil even though he was a substitute for years now. And now they`re trying to rip us.

Its sad how football has lost its soul over the years...where Are the Maldinis and Baresis of this generation.
I don't think it's that disrespectful tbh. Both apparently rejected moves to clubs they didn't want to go to (e.g. Sampdoria). The player should be allowed to make such a decision as it's a big decision in their life. Janku in particular I bet would leave happily if he was given a choice to go back to his homeland.

Where the problem is the fact that we gave them huge contracts until next year (if I'm correct). Now when we want to try and cut them out of the squad, we fail as they've lost they're value as they've aged and no club will be willing to pay close to what we give them.

Whilst Kaka being sold was a massive loss, it made sense from a business perspective. Juve in the past did similar acts like selling Zidane. Whilst I don't advocate selling players in their prime, we've changed the squad around too late with the current generation.
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Just your general smug way of talking kinda p1sses me off at times .I did not say We should have signed Dzeko Krasic Hernanes Ganso and who ever .What Im writing is about MGT basically that we had 20 million but must sell to buy which means we have nothing , the Pippo extension the signing last year of a player like Onyewu the Yepes transfer .The sale of Kaka and Sheva without even attempting to replace Kaka , the mistake of Gourcuff Savicevic recommended Jovetic we probably spent that money on Zambro David Luiz and Ganso were recommended a good while back never acted....

The level of =stupid decisions and bad signings has been awful.In the last 5 years we have 2 1/2 good players Pato Silva Dinho ( you will see a dip in his level of performance next year) thats bad management and think of the wasted money in that time on crap players who did nothing .
The business model of Milan now is alot different to what we want and would like and it resembles one of a club looking to break into a Europa league spot.Sure we have the names of our last great run and Pato Silva are here Hunter Dinho Borri are good.But you see Milan linked with 3 or 4 players a day and there just stories , then you see the actual players Milan MGT speak of and you see the extensions and the signings made that clubs like Palermo Samp and the Viola wouldnt be seen making.

But you seem to fail to see this or ignore it or try to stay positive.No one said we should sign all the players we are linked with , but it doesnt look promising.
And again man your way of talking to people isnt great , and it annoys me not a cry comment but your smuggness....youre always right in your eyes and the last 5 years of bad dealings dont matter because that was in the past , well Geo they do matter and it annoys me that the mgt are awful and the things they say are ridiculous.

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Old 10-06-2010, 10:55   #748

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Let's all get along The only guilty party here is the management who are being out thought and out spent by a wide margin. Contracts respected or otherwise I believe, even if they leave happily, we won't be replacing Kala or Janku by anyone too exciting.
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Selling Kaka might have make sense from a business standpoint, if only Milan actually kept Gourcuff or sign players to strengthen the squad. Juve did that with ZZ.
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Let's all get along The only guilty party here is the management who are being out thought and out spent by a wide margin. Contracts respected or otherwise I believe, even if they leave happily, we won't be replacing Kala or Janku by anyone too exciting.
to me, these two leaving is pretty exciting already.
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