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Old 02-07-2010, 08:26   #1336

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Özil won't come cheap ( read : all the big clubs are interested, that means we can forget about him)
Thats is hurtful in so many ways!!
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:39   #1337

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What foundation are you talking about?

Nesta needs to be replaced soon as he is well in his 30's and injury prone.. Pirlo is slowing down and will be finished in 2 years...
Ronaldinho is 30 and who knows how much longer he'll be around.. we're not even sure if he'll be here next season...

Ambrosini and Gattuso are done in a year or two the most....

Here's our "Foundation"

Amelia (hasn't played yet)
Abate.....T.Silva.....Antonini
Flamini
Pato

There's a lot of spots you have to fill in... esp at wing backs..and then u have to replace all those old players who are retiring soon..

so exactly what foundation do we have besides PATO??
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:12   #1338

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I am jealous of Juventus getting Bonucci. I heard that they are also getting Marco Motta from Roma. Not that Bonucci or Motta are super fantastic, but they are very decent and Italian (which means higher loyalty in general). Some member has an earlier post talking about Milan's success was based on provincial players like Donadoni/Lentini/Eranio/Massaro, and I couldn't agree more.

Italy doesn't have a great number of decent young players these days, so if we were still ambitious, we should grab them before others. It is amazing and frustrating how ignorant and complacement B&G can get.

On the "foundation" topic, I think only Pato and Silva are reliable (I have always felt iffy about Flamini - hopefully he will prove me wrong). We should start scouting around and fill the other 3/9 positions with decent players like Luca Antonini or Giacomo Berreta. I miss the old time when we had the Dutch Trio paired up with 8 Italians in our starting 11. That was the only sustainable way.
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:57   #1339

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Brazil are out!!!!!

Where are all those Huntelaar and L.Fabiano lovers now? Huntelaar even with the 5 minutes he had, he missed one golden opportunity, and one 100000% sure goal in a 3 against 1 situation, how pathetic is this player...

anyway I feel sorry for Kaka but I am glad some arrogant primadonnas are out like Lucio, Maicon, Alves and Dunga. Serves him right for picking only a very good starting 11 with no reliable substitutes who can change the game.

Now lets sign Bastos please
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:00   #1340

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Now lets sign Bastos please
At least his price didn't go up today :p
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:07   #1341

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Where are all those Huntelaar and L.Fabiano lovers now? Huntelaar even with the 5 minutes he had, he missed one golden opportunity, and one 100000% sure goal in a 3 against 1 situation, how pathetic is this player...
Funny how fans these days rate a player.
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Brazil are out!!!!!

Where are all those Huntelaar and L.Fabiano lovers now? Huntelaar even with the 5 minutes he had, he missed one golden opportunity, and one 100000% sure goal in a 3 against 1 situation, how pathetic is this player...

anyway I feel sorry for Kaka but I am glad some arrogant primadonnas are out like Lucio, Maicon, Alves and Dunga. Serves him right for picking only a very good starting 11 with no reliable substitutes who can change the game.

Now lets sign Bastos please
Sneijder had a great game.
Melo was an idiot.
Nobody else from both teams impressed me either positively or negatively.
von Bommel didn't get even one yellow which surprised me. I like the referees' work today, but I think he should have been cautioned with at least one yellow, considering his three consecutive nasty fouls in a short time span. MVB is such a dirty player.
Huntelaar didn't surprise me - he is mediocre.
I don't see what's good in Bastos either - were you being sarcastic?
I don't feel sorry for Kaka either. He is just not as good as Ronaldo or Ronaldinho at their prime.
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:23   #1343

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Sneijder had a great game.
Melo was an idiot.
Nobody else from both teams impressed me either positively or negatively.
von Bommel didn't get even one yellow which surprised me. I like the referees' work today, but I think he should have been cautioned with at least one yellow, considering his three consecutive nasty fouls in a short time span. MVB is such a dirty player.
Huntelaar didn't surprise me - he is mediocre.
I don't see what's good in Bastos either - were you being sarcastic?
I don't feel sorry for Kaka either. He is just not as good as Ronaldo or Ronaldinho at their prime.
this should belong to the match thread. sorry.
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:27   #1344

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What foundation are you talking about?

Nesta needs to be replaced soon as he is well in his 30's and injury prone.. Pirlo is slowing down and will be finished in 2 years...
Ronaldinho is 30 and who knows how much longer he'll be around.. we're not even sure if he'll be here next season...

Ambrosini and Gattuso are done in a year or two the most....

Here's our "Foundation"

Amelia (hasn't played yet)
Abate.....T.Silva.....Antonini
Flamini
Pato

There's a lot of spots you have to fill in... esp at wing backs..and then u have to replace all those old players who are retiring soon..

so exactly what foundation do we have besides PATO??

You forget Abbiati & Borriello. Astori & Paloschi can be partly counted. Pirlo's style can last long and he is the right captain for Milan. We need players like Ambrosini & Nesta for next season to at least ensure CL place, then invest more.

I didn't say we have a strong foundation, it is just better than Juve because we have more in form ones. We still need to make more transfer, and each transfer can start or give us deep can be count as plus. We must build it step by step.

Well, not a bright future, but I'm fed of being pessimist or overly optimist, just trying to support the club as a whole...
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:01   #1345

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Take that Dunga....that's what you get for leaving my boy Ronaldinho at home! We should totally sign Felipe Melo....he was excellent for the Dutch!

Err.....wait....is he Dutch or Brazilian? I couldn't tell...
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:11   #1346

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rumors say that the Italian FA has passed a law that to decrease the Non-EU spots from 2 to 1...

this is the stupidest decision the Italian FA has made. Only 2 years ago they have decided that Italy is losing it's star players to other leagues and our teams are falling behind in Europe, so they increased from 1 to 2....but now because Italy has failed in the WC (all because of the Italian FA again to hire Lippi again), they blame it on the teams not having enough Italian players. Instead of looking at how teams like Catania, Napoli and Genoa have been doing with their Non-EU spots, making Serie A more competitive, they only look to Inter who has zero Italians in their starting lineup and decide that the entire Serie A is like Inter.

Sad, sad sad decisions by this Italian federation. It is only getting worse and worse for Italian football. I think this ruling is still unofficial but it is expected to be in the next week.
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:12   #1347

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@ZvonimirBoban ,i already said that its all fantamercato, yet we need something like this to compete with Juve and inter.Do you believe if we can compete with them, with just Fabiano,Yepes and Amelia?i'd call us lucky if we can sign Fabiano though...

@LebRN Stotari nothing special, Pepe good player, nothing special, not world class player. Bonucci is good defender but nothing special.

They didnt strentght that much though spending that much...if you sign players like Honda and Özil, you strentgh the team,add much more quality.i cant say the same thing for juve...
well Thrust was faster than me and said it all in reply to this...
as for all Luis Fabiano lovers....i seriously do not understand how he can be un upgrade on Boriello or even Huntelaar...
as for Hitmanq8.....for the love of god....enough with Robinho....i don't understand how anyone can see beyond his arrogance and childishness.....
and Bastos??????? .....he must be the perfect summary of Dunga's selection stupidity....Nilmar ahead of Pato.....

to see how someone can ****-up their player selection as much as Lippi, Dunga, Maradona (although he is still in it, but i still believe he will pay for leaving Zanetti & Cambiasso out) and yet they were entrusted with coaching 3 of the biggest footballing nations....of course there is not enough time to talk about the master of all idiocy that is Domenech now....

crazy football world....

Braziliero...i'm really sorry mate, but they had that coming ever since Dunga announced his team...just like Italy
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:32   #1348

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rumors say that the Italian FA has passed a law that to decrease the Non-EU spots from 2 to 1...

this is the stupidest decision the Italian FA has made. Only 2 years ago they have decided that Italy is losing it's star players to other leagues and our teams are falling behind in Europe, so they increased from 1 to 2....but now because Italy has failed in the WC (all because of the Italian FA again to hire Lippi again), they blame it on the teams not having enough Italian players. Instead of looking at how teams like Catania, Napoli and Genoa have been doing with their Non-EU spots, making Serie A more competitive, they only look to Inter who has zero Italians in their starting lineup and decide that the entire Serie A is like Inter.

Sad, sad sad decisions by this Italian federation. It is only getting worse and worse for Italian football. I think this ruling is still unofficial but it is expected to be in the next week.

You're right. IMO, if the FA want a bright future, they should use some rule like the 6/5, there must be some Italian in the starting line up.
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Old 02-07-2010, 14:43   #1349

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IT got a lot of promising youth today, just so happened Lippi did not bother calling and usiNg them. Motta, Santon, Antonini, And Abate were all good enough to make the squad but Lippi chose Zambro(who can't even beat Abate and Antonini in Milan for play time) and Grosso.

Canna showed the world that he is only half the player he was but he still starts over Bonuncci and Gamberini.

Gattuso should not even make the squad but he did.

Cassano, Borreillo and Mario should have made the team.

I don't think IT is as bad as England in terms of lacking next Gen players but they must be given chance to play.

Buffon
Motta Bonucci Chelini Santon
De Rossi Criscito
Rossi Givinco
Mario. Cassano


That could be the starting lineup for 2012 euro and it is allot better than the one in SA already.
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Old 02-07-2010, 16:20   #1350

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Oh, my Adyiyah

Just when I think you have played quite well, blended in the team, had a good cross, a header that forced opponent a red & penalty, you shot the penalty the naive way.

However, this guy still could contribute something for Milan (I mean, after a year of loan).

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