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Old 12-07-2010, 20:13   #1666

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Don't know if it was posted before, if so, sorry...
In Brazil they are saying Lazio or Vilarreal are near to sign Hernanes. Lazio bid with 8M but it was said Viallarreal offered 11 million and it's almost sure they will get him.

It 's been said several teams are asking for him but only Villarreal and Lazio sent a real(official) offer. CSKA and a Arabian team offered before but Hernanes said not because he wants to play in a big center.

For the first time I heard a São Paulo director talking about to sell him, so it appears they now want(need) the money. Huge steal for Villarreal if they get him for this price...
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Old 12-07-2010, 21:53   #1667

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Yeah whats up with this Milan dealing with Palermo, fuc.ken Zamparini hates Milan, all he cares about that his Palermo side finishes in front of Milan in the standings. For the he rest he just does not give a fuc.k
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Old 12-07-2010, 22:22   #1668

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First of all, I don't blame Zamparini for disliking Milan.
Secondly, I am surprised none of you are starting rumors like Darmian going to Palermo will be a lead in for Pastore coming to Milan.....

To be honest, there are a couple of ways you can view this co-ownership deals.
1. Milan is so desperate to loan out Darmian that they are willing to sell half his rights to Palermo, or begged Palermo to take Darmian.
2. Zamperini saw something in Darmian and knew that Milan doesn't thus, he wants to get Darmian but MIlan is afraid that Darmian will become the new Kjaer, thus only co-ownership deal with Palermo.
3. This is just a normal co-ownership deal that we should all leave as that.

Personally, I think it is stupid to do co-ownership deal, esp on someone whom the team thinks will be a good players and playing at a position of need. Don't Galliani learn anything from Borreillo. I have not seen Darmian over the past season, but from those Milan games that he played, he is okay with potentials. Thing is that, why give out a new contracts to Oddo, and not recall Darmian to play in Milan. If Darmian makes it at Palermo, Milan must give out at least 8 mil to get someone whom they already have toi begin with.
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Old 13-07-2010, 03:04   #1669

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Darmian to palermo is good 4 both clubs, palermo in particular.

If its a co-ownership then Palermo has "bought" Darmians half for a value that Milan has agreed on (ie more cash for Milan). If he turns out to have a good season, his stock will increase, so either Palermo or Milan can sell his 50 percent for more. Loan would be better, but think of it as u were Zamparini, getting a player on loan would just mean you need to buy another next year. However if u invest in him, you would be interested in buying his half to sell it at a better price in the future.

I hope Dinhos rumors about wanting Flamengo are true, and I hope Hunter finds a new home asap. I do like Ibra but let's not kid ourselves, he is 29 (just 2 less than R80) and Hunter 26. Letting go of these two just for Ibra alone isn't wise. I hope instead they look into world class younger players in the form of Fabregas and Robinho. These are guarantees. Worst worst case scenario they flop and can be sold for the same price without any losses. Same cannot be said about a 29 year old.

-- question for the premiership followers, is it true that the tax for footballers in England has increased to 50 percent? When will this law be effective?

-- Anyone know the latest on this deduction of NonEU spots? I heard rumors of postponing when will it be effective, is that true?
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Not a good deal for MIlan in my opinion if Darmian made it big.

Anyhow, as for EPL. It really does not matters if EPL tax as much as Serie A, as teams in EPL receive more money from TV than Serie A teams. Last year the payout for collective TV deals per team was about 45-50M Pounds, it was rumored months ago that the new deal will bring the payout to aroun 60M pounds. Thats close to 85M Euro a season, not including CL, Europa, FA or League Cup.
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Not a good deal for MIlan in my opinion if Darmian made it big.

Anyhow, as for EPL. It really does not matters if EPL tax as much as Serie A, as teams in EPL receive more money from TV than Serie A teams. Last year the payout for collective TV deals per team was about 45-50M Pounds, it was rumored months ago that the new deal will bring the payout to aroun 60M pounds. Thats close to 85M Euro a season, not including CL, Europa, FA or League Cup.
It matters ... as EPL clubs pay a lot more their players than Serie A clubs (with the exception of ... Milan: actually, we have had the tendancy to pay a lot some decent players, like clubs in EPL, probably because of our English origins ).

But that won't solve any problem, anyway, not at short term (and even if EPL clubs had trouble to pay their players because of this tax, Spanish clubs still have their tax advantage too ...).
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Old 13-07-2010, 05:29   #1672

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Interesting and all true as they were statements made by the people involved not just hear-say. http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/edi...r-market-magic

I do think its looking highly unlikely that anyone (no name in particular) that will improve the team in a position we need will arrive.The club simply has no money I wonder where it goes 86 million for the wage bill , what happens to the other 150 - 180 million because we don't sign anyone ???? is the rent for the san siro that high ??? the travel to and from games flights around europe for CL matches ??? advertising paying everyone on the coaching staff the milan lab the offices , I suppose it all add's up.

And means we have no money , they also mention the 20 million tranfser budget for the first team and added to that the Emirates money (although thats maybe just like in the BWIN money and was already factored in) 4.5 million for Storai and his wages , whatever Palermo gave for Darmian.I know that there is not 50 or 60 million but I do find it hard to believe that there is no money.

Galliani and Berlusconi and Berlus c**t of a daughter said players must leave or we must sell before we can sign someone , Dida -gone Favalli- gone Storari sold (FOR MONEY) gone.So I thought maybe now we will actually sign a resonable priced player who will add to the team....Ameli , Yepes maybe Mancini and 3 young guys one who is 22 and has never playerd , the other 2 may be good but will be playing primavera.

Its not the end of the world obviously but its hugely disappointing . We have young players who will just go into the first team sit on the bench and never play.I honestly do not see us finishing in the champion league places next season.I think Inter Roma will , Juve really should and one of Samp , Palermo and Napoli are better position than us.

Its just down to squad depth , 4 years ago we could of won everything with this team but not now.And added the inevitable loss of Nesta and Pato to Injury the lack of motivation for Dinho and the age and fitness of Pirlo Seedorf Ambro Zambrotta, the uncertainess of Abate Antonini Bonera Abbiatti Amelia , the baffling mediocrity of Huntelaar and Oddo Janku Kaladze Inzaghi our squad is not well positioned.As I said 4 or 5 years ago it would of been and was a great squad but how there was no slowly weaning out of the older players and a few signings year by year is ridiculous.

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Interesting and all true as they were statements made by the people involved not just hear-say. http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/edi...r-market-magic

I do think its looking highly unlikely that anyone (no name in particular) that will improve the team in a position we need will arrive.The club simply has no money I wonder where it goes 86 million for the wage bill , what happens to the other 150 - 180 million because we don't sign anyone ???? is the rent for the san siro that high ??? the travel to and from games flights around europe for CL matches ??? advertising paying everyone on the coaching staff the milan lab the offices , I suppose it all add's up.

And means we have no money , they also mention the 20 million tranfser budget for the first team and added to that the Emirates money (although thats maybe just like in the BWIN money and was already factored in) 4.5 million for Storai and his wages , whatever Palermo gave for Darmian.I know that there is not 50 or 60 million but I do find it hard to believe that there is no money.

Galliani and Berlusconi and Berlus c**t of a daughter said players must leave or we must sell before we can sign someone , Dida -gone Favalli- gone Storari sold (FOR MONEY) gone.So I thought maybe now we will actually sign a resonable priced player who will add to the team....Ameli , Yepes maybe Mancini and 3 young guys one who is 22 and has never playerd , the other 2 may be good but will be playing primavera.

Its not the end of the world obviously but its hugely disappointing . We have young players who will just go into the first team sit on the bench and never play.I honestly do not see us finishing in the champion league places next season.I think Inter Roma will , Juve really should and one of Samp , Palermo and Napoli are better position than us.

Its just down to squad depth , 4 years ago we could of won everything with this team but not now.And added the inevitable loss of Nesta and Pato to Injury the lack of motivation for Dinho and the age and fitness of Pirlo Seedorf Ambro Zambrotta, the uncertainess of Abate Antonini Bonera Abbiatti Amelia , the baffling mediocrity of Huntelaar and Oddo Janku Kaladze Inzaghi our squad is not well positioned.As I said 4 or 5 years ago it would of been and was a great squad but how there was no slowly weaning out of the older players and a few signings year by year is ridiculous.
No wonder i don`t miss Mrki anymore.
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No wonder i don`t miss Mrki anymore.
Are you suggesting that there is money there is a game plan and the squad isnt old and tired and in need of new players ???????????????????????????????
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If I say we're going to win Serie A this season, who believes me ?
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Are you suggesting that there is money there is a game plan and the squad isnt old and tired and in need of new players ???????????????????????????????
I was not suggesting anything, I was just joking...for a while I am reading your post carefully, and though you might have a point there, I couldn`t help but notice that you have exactly the same way of dealing with the current situation and the same directness that Mrki has when "swearing" at the management. Thats all.
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Whats the catch!!!!???
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Well RB DOES waste a lot of money so hopefully Inter will be skint some time soon.
I predict him to do well, probably win the league this year. And then he will build 'his own team' which will bring Inter down to where they were 10 years ago! lol. The guy is a decent coach but he is someone who would benefit from a director of football or a chairman (like ours) who buys the players and leaves him to coach.

How are you Jimbob, long time?

I'm not too bad thanks mate, just looking for a new job so i thought while i have some spare time on my hands i'll come back and annoy everyone

I wonder what's taking Juventus so long to sign Krasic? I still think if we went in there with a determined offer he'd join us (much like how we waited for Ibrahimovic and he went off to Inter).

Speaking of strikers, what do people think of us signing Eder? I don't know much about him other than he was top scorer in Serie B last season. Can he make the jump up?

As for Van der Wiel, i think he's off to Bayern so i guess we can forget about him. Coentrao is still a possibility but i guess after his successful world cup, Benfica will want to keep hold of him.
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Jim, I think Juve are considering Dzeko too so Krasic isn't necessarily going now.

I read Milan are after Lucas Biglia who has been likened to Pirlo. I don't know much about him, other than he's Argentine and 24 and there are a few videos of him on youtube.

http://www.rossoneriblog.com/milan-e...old-new-pirlo/

edit: I forgot to ask, Brasileiro, do you know much about a player called Bernardo Vieira de Souza (Bernado) who plays for Cruzeiro?

I read about him on milannews and apparently he looks very good.

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I was not suggesting anything, I was just joking...for a while I am reading your post carefully, and though you might have a point there, I couldn`t help but notice that you have exactly the same way of dealing with the current situation and the same directness that Mrki has when "swearing" at the management. Thats all.
I didnt swear at management I called Berlus daughter C**T
which I believe she is. I just think that we cling to the fact there will be the changes we need next year not a revolution just changes.But it was ment to happen in 08 , 09 ,10 now when the contracts were up in 2011 i thought that definately some new faces , but they start off by extending Oddo till 12 but while this is so they pay him less I am expecting the same with other players.People that post some negative things here get eyes get eyes rolled at them and get told calm down the mercato is still open , they are never actually even 50% wrong and have a better understanding of reality than some people who genuinly think (not just mention but keep talking) about Robinho Ibra Honda V.D.Wiel , Contrao it isnt going to happen .
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