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Old 23-07-2010, 04:40   #2071

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if We decide to Splash 25 mil right now we could have this next year:

----------------Abbiati------------------
Sokra-------Nesta----T.Silva----Antonini
------- --Flamini---------Pirlo-----------
----------------Hernanes--------------
-----krasic-------------------Dinho-----
-----------------Pato------------------


I truly believe that this team can compete for Scudetto and CL without any problem. But don`t know the NON EU rule is still unclear, but I believe that it doesn`t allow both hernanes and Krasic.Maybe Lazzari can fill this place nicely.. there has to be a reason why Allegri is so fond of him.
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if We decide to Splash 25 mil right now we could have this next year:

----------------Abbiati------------------
Sokra-------Nesta----T.Silva----Antonini
------- --Flamini---------Pirlo-----------
----------------Hernanes--------------
-----krasic-------------------Dinho-----
-----------------Pato------------------


I truly believe that this team can compete for Scudetto and CL without any problem. But don`t know the NON EU rule is still unclear, but I believe that it doesn`t allow both hernanes and Krasic.Maybe Lazzari can fill this place nicely.. there has to be a reason why Allegri is so fond of him.
Excellent I'll take it ,but yeah Krasic and Hernanes maybe a no go...But even with Lazzari its alot better than last year.
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Old 23-07-2010, 04:56   #2073

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Damn, I don't understand anything anymore: a price of 10M is apparently given to Dinho, but then we want to keep him and he also wants to stay (all these rumours were only BS ?). Huntelaar should go at the same price he came, but finally, he could leave for 12.5M instead of 15M. Gattuso could also leave, but we would only ask for 2M.

Well, let's give our players for free, that will be the same, because even with this money, we won't get proper replacements for these players (yes, by selling Gattuso 2M, a useless Gattuso nowadays, well, we won't get a better player,even the contrary ...).
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Old 23-07-2010, 04:57   #2074

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Dzeko apparently told the press that he will play bad if he stays in Wolfsburg, and that was a threat.

As far as I know, if the player wants to leave, the club must let him, I know there are some regulations at UEFA regarding that, but I don't know the exact rule.

@ kastriot

I like your team, but that will not happen. It seems we've totally gave up on Hernanes since Leo left. I don't remember when he was linked with us lately.

Also, I think Allegri wants to use Lazzari in his team.

The greatest question mark for me stays above Ronaldinho and his position in the team. Ronaldinho is staying and that's obvious right now.

But, it will take a REAL tactical magic from Allegri to play Ronaldinho in AM position (if he's going to play 4-3-1-2 and he will).

On the other hand, reading Berlusconi's comments about "Ronaldinho playing closer to goal" and taking his proven inability to play AM into account, especially in a system in which AM must chase and track back, I think Allegri thinks of an option to play Ronaldinho as SS, with Pato as CF, like attacking duo, and real AM behind them. That player, Hleb perhaps or whoever, will be our only significant signing beside Lazzari I think. I must say I would be excited to see how it would work, because Ronaldinho would be at the perfect position for himself, and Pato's lack of strength is not an issue here because Allegri plays fast and all-moving football.
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Old 23-07-2010, 05:00   #2075

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Excellent I'll take it ,but yeah Krasic and Hernanes maybe a no go...But even with Lazzari its alot better than last year.
isn`t it very frustrating when you know that 25 mil can make a highly competitive team, and mgm refuses to spend that much!!!!!!!!!

Don`t forget guys we are still to spend a single euro. Plus we have huge cut at our wage budget. Dida and Favalli are around 6 mil a year also we have spread the contract of Abbiati, Oddo and Zambro. Plus Dinho`s wage surely will be cut 2 mil(his brother confirmed that he will sign new deal).

So what we wont from mgm is around 15 mil extra spending plus the new wage structure should allow us around 10 mil. which is enough to make us competitive.

I don`t think Milan fans can be more humble than this.or can we!??
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Old 23-07-2010, 05:03   #2076

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Dzeko apparently told the press that he will play bad if he stays in Wolfsburg, and that was a threat.

As far as I know, if the player wants to leave, the club must let him, I know there are some regulations at UEFA regarding that, but I don't know the exact rule.
I read somewhere that there was an agreement between Dzeko and his former coach/former management team of Wolfsburg when he signed his contract (to let him leave this year). But all these people are not in the club anymore and as a consequence, for them, there is no agreement, just a contract signed by a player.

And whatever could have been agreed, signing a new contract by knowing he would ask to leave one year later is a mistake by the player, nothing else, he just gave more power to the club to decide his future. He has to assume that now (maybe he will manage to leave at the end, but if they keep him, I'll just say "well done Wolfsburg", seriously, because as he is a professional player, he can't be bad just to be allowed to leave, he will be put in the reserve if he does that, and he could break his career, so Wolfsburg has all the cards in hand ...).
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And whatever could have been agreed, signing a new contract by knowing he would ask to leave one year later is a mistake by the player, nothing else, he just gave more power to the club to decide his future. He has to assume that now (maybe he will manage to leave at the end, but if they keep him, I'll just say "well done Wolfsburg", seriously, because as he is a professional player, he can't be bad just to be allowed to leave, he will be put in the reserve if he does that, and he could break his career, so Wolfsburg has all the cards in hand ...).
Or he can repeat a "Pandev". The exact thing happened to him and he managed to win the case against Lazio in the sports court.
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Or he can repeat a "Pandev". The exact thing happened to him and he managed to win the case against Lazio in the sports court.
But it wasn't the same case ... I'll do some searches.
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But it wasn't the same case ... I'll do some searches.
Pandev made a transfer request. Offers around 15 mil were coming in, refused by Lotito who was asking for 20 + mil. Nobody paid that money, as a consequence Pandev threatened that he will not be happy and won`t be able to play at the same level. He was benched and later sent to train with the second team. He took his case to court and won.

To me it is exactly the same case. unless I misunderstood the whole case.
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Pandev made a transfer request. Offers around 15 mil were coming in, refused by Lotito who was asking for 20 + mil. Nobody paid that money, as a consequence Pandev threatened that he will not be happy and won`t be able to play at the same level. He was benched and later sent to train with the second team. He took his case to court and won.

To me it is exactly the same case. unless I misunderstood the whole case.
Pandev only had a year left on his contract asked for a transfer and Lotito refused didn't accept any offers unless they were higher than his value and left in january when he won his case ,he only 5 months left on his contract Dzeko has 3 years...correct me if im wrong.
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EXCLUSIVE: Milan 'Very Close' To Signing Japan Star Keisuke Honda From CSKA Moscow
Italians confident of deal between £11-13m for in-demand forward

its goal.com so dont get too excited
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Old 23-07-2010, 06:28   #2082

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Pandev made a transfer request. Offers around 15 mil were coming in, refused by Lotito who was asking for 20 + mil. Nobody paid that money, as a consequence Pandev threatened that he will not be happy and won`t be able to play at the same level. He was benched and later sent to train with the second team. He took his case to court and won.

To me it is exactly the same case. unless I misunderstood the whole case.
Well, actually, Pandev didn't want to sign any new contract. He wanted to leave, Lazio wanted to keep him, and his contract was going to end the year after. Then he was put in the reserve and the problems started for Lazio (because it was stated that he was put in the reserve as a punishment for not signing a new contract, which can't be done).

In the case of Dzeko, he signed that new contract ... IMO, that's a huge difference. You can't want to leave and sign a better contract at the same time, you can't win on all tables. If he hadn't signed this contract, and if as a consequence, Wolfsburg had put him in the reserve, then he could have left for free by breaking his contract, but like he signed that new contract, a court can't state that the player really wants to leave, he will even lose if that goes in courts as they will probably state that he had an unprofessional behaviour and he could be punished.

EDIT: http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan...dzLml0LTMwNDQ2
TMW compares Allegri to Leonardo ... Will he leave at the end of the season ?
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EXCLUSIVE: Milan 'Very Close' To Signing Japan Star Keisuke Honda From CSKA Moscow
Italians confident of deal between £11-13m for in-demand forward

its goal.com so dont get too excited
I don't get too excited until I see it announced on Milan's web site. But we might as well give everyone a chance to read it.

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EXCLUSIVE: Milan 'Very Close' To Signing Japan Star Keisuke Honda From CSKA Moscow
Italians confident of deal between €13-15m for in-demand forward


AC Milan are close to securing the signing of Japan's World Cup sensation, Keisuke Honda, from CSKA Moscow, Goal.com can reveal.

The Italian giants made an offer of £10.9m (€13m) on Thursday, to which the Russian club responded requesting an increased bid of £12.5m (€15m), and now sources from within the Rossoneri are confident of securing the Japanese star's signature imminently.

"We are very close to signing Honda, the clubs are very close to finding an agreement," said the source. "[Milan coach Massimiliano] Allegri likes him a lot and wants to see him playing alongside [Alexandre] Pato and Ronaldinho."

Honda, 24, has been the subject of widespread attention and admiration for his impressive performances for CSKA Moscow in the 2009-10 Champions League, followed by a superb World Cup campaign for Japan, in which he scored two eye-catching goals.

The forward - who can play as a striker or in a slightly deeper position, and is best known for his lethal left foot - has been linked with Arsenal, Liverpool, Birmingham City, Everton, Atletico Madrid, Deportiva La Coruna and Valencia, among others.
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I don't get too excited until I see it announced on Milan's web site. But we might as well give everyone a chance to read it.



http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/trans...-star-keisuke?
No way CSKA will want to lose both Krasic and Honda, they'll keep one of them which means if we do get Honda then Krasic stays (not going to Juve). And if this source is reliable, then with just 2M difference the agreement seems not too far.
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Why would CSKA wants to sell Honda for 15mil since they paid 9mil for him 6 months ago and plenty of clubs would pay 20mil for him.

Anyway, at least it is a good rumor, have not have that for a long time.


As for Dezko being another Pandev. I really doubt that would happen, as I thought the court only allowed Pandev to buy out his own contract mainly due to he was in his last year of the contract. While Dzeko still has 3 years left. Beside, despite reading Dzeko only wants Milan.....other teams could have just jump In and sign someone like Dzeko for free.
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