Summer Mercato 2010

So let me ask you all this, since we have only ONE non-eu spot available, who would you rather us spend it on?

Honda, Krasic, Dzeko, Hernanes, Jucilei

Personally -- I prefer Dzeko or Jucilei. I do like Honda too. Krasic not so much. I also think the Honda think is a rumour and we will not be going for him solely because he is Non-EU. I think we will go for Dzeko in August. Let's see what will happen.

Many of you here puts Papastathopoulos in the first 11 of Milan squad.
This guy can play good only as a DC or DMC, he is not RB.
If you put him RB you will have the same things when we were using Bonera as a RB.

The non-eu spot with end up being taken by Ronaldo or Sheva.

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

So let me ask you all this, since we have only ONE non-eu spot available, who would you rather us spend it on?

Honda, Krasic, Dzeko, Hernanes, Jucilei

Personally -- I prefer Dzeko or Jucilei. I do like Honda too. Krasic not so much. I also think the Honda think is a rumour and we will not be going for him solely because he is Non-EU. I think we will go for Dzeko in August. Let's see what will happen.

Honda this year, and agreeing with Wolfsburg during this summer to get Dzeko at the start of the next summer mercato.
Honda, Hernanes or Jucilei are more important for us right now than Dzeko (if we keep Huntelaar).
Next year, Inzaghi will surely stop, so we will only have Pato, Borriello and Huntelaar, so I'd say that the worse one should be sold to welcome Dzeko and call back Paloschi.

Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

Many of you here puts Papastathopoulos in the first 11 of Milan squad.
This guy can play good only as a DC or DMC, he is not RB.
If you put him RB you will have the same things when we were using Bonera as a RB.

Sokratis just said it in the press conference: he will play wherever the coach says him to play, but he is better as a CD.

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - T.Silva - Antonini
Flamini
Ambrosini - Pirlo
Ronaldinho
Pato - Borriello

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - T.Silva - Antonini
Flamini
Ambrosini - ??
Pirlo
Pato - Borriello

It's some possible formations, but we'll need to wait the first friendly games to know what are the plans of Allegri.

If one of our CD gets an injury or is in bad form, Sokratis should be their direct replacement, followed by Yepes (what I like is that these players said that they would fight to get their chances, so there will surely be some competition between our players and that will force everyone to play at his best, because last season, even if a bit injured or in bad form, Nesta and T.Silva were sent on the pitch not to play with Kaladze for example).

EDIT (again): http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan...dzLml0LTMwNDY0
Marchetti saying that for him, it's Abbiati who should be the #1 GK for the NT during the injury of Buffon. I don't know if it's a lack of ambition, a lack of confidence, or just some realistic point of view about himself and some fair-play (I don't know a lot of players saying "this one should play instead of me in NT").

Honda for me, we deeply need an ACM. He is a real upgrade for Seedorf when Borri could do a fine job along side Pato.

I don't know much about Jucilei and Hernanes, so the Japan is my choice for now

Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

Many of you here puts Papastathopoulos in the first 11 of Milan squad.
This guy can play good only as a DC or DMC, he is not RB.
If you put him RB you will have the same things when we were using Bonera as a RB.

You are right, the lack of signings has caused everybody to hail our new Greek signing as a savior. Unfortunately, he isn't and he is only going to be a squad player. Abate (who is the dumbest football player alive) is just a terrible player in my books and he only has speed. I think Allegri will push Abate forward and use him somewhere there. We also will have Sokratis, Zambro and Oddo playing for RB. None of them is good enough for Milan to be a good enough RB for a formation like Allegris. Neither of those can offer offense and defense at the same time.

Plus I dont understand the need for Bonera anymore. He was good, but now we have Silva/Nesta starting. If they get injured, we have Yepes and Sokratis ready to step in, let alone Onyewu and Kaladze. I think we could sell Bonera to Napoli, Genoa or Fiorentina for about 3-4 million. He's definitely not a bad player.

Imo, I'd like to spend the non-EU spot on either Dzeko or Jucilei this summer. If we get Dzeko, then I'd still want us to try for Asamoah of Udinese. It would be amazing if we could secure Ganso for next summer (I don't think he'll leave Brazil this summer).

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

So let me ask you all this, since we have only ONE non-eu spot available, who would you rather us spend it on?

Honda, Krasic, Dzeko, Hernanes, Jucilei

Personally -- I prefer Dzeko or Jucilei. I do like Honda too. Krasic not so much. I also think the Honda think is a rumour and we will not be going for him solely because he is Non-EU. I think we will go for Dzeko in August. Let's see what will happen.

If we want to fill the holes in fullback, CM, sub (or competitor) for Dinho, and striker (we need 2 strikers in Allegri's scheme) the seemingly available opportunities are:
- FB: Kolarov or somebody else from Serie A or some Real Madrid reject or I can't think else
- CM: Honda, Jucilei
- AM: Honda, Lazzari, VDV, Oezil (unlikely, but since he's 15M...)
- ST: Ibra, Dzeko, Fabiano

We don't need Krasic in this formation, Hernanes is no longer an alternative, Jucilei is too young. So I will pick Honda or Dzeko, but we have Huntelaar-Pato-Borriello and Inzaghi (for one year at least) already, while Pirlo-Flamini-Seedorf/Ambro isn't really convincing for a season long... so Honda got my vote.

Things will be different if we can do (Hunter+money)/Dzeko swap.

Any prospect getting Santon on loan?

Originally Posted by Revolver

Dzeko apparently told the press that he will play bad if he stays in Wolfsburg, and that was a threat.

As far as I know, if the player wants to leave, the club must let him, I know there are some regulations at UEFA regarding that, but I don't know the exact rule.

I really hope Dzeko is not such a cry-baby that he will play bad if he has to honour a contract he agreed upon and signed last year. If someone did that to Milan I would hate him for it. Hopefully it's just paper-talk.

I would be surprised if there is a regulation saying a club must let a player leave if he wants to. What's a contract worth then? Who should decide the transfer fee?

Originally Posted by Arildonardo

I really hope Dzeko is not such a cry-baby that he will play bad if he has to honour a contract he agreed upon and signed last year. If someone did that to Milan I would hate him for it. Hopefully it's just paper-talk.

I would be surprised if there is a regulation saying a club must let a player leave if he wants to. What's a contract worth then? Who should decide the transfer fee?

I think they should make a new rule: forcing clubs and players to agree on a transfer fee when they sign a contract (I think it's like that in Spain, I mean, there is an option, if they do that everywhere ...). This way, no more problems !!

you mean like when a player signs a contract they have buy-out clause like 180m or so.
IMO thats a useless rule.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

I think they should make a new rule: forcing clubs and players to agree on a transfer fee when they sign a contract (I think it's like that in Spain, I mean, there is an option, if they do that everywhere ...). This way, no more problems !!

I've heard about that kind of buy out clauses in Spain, and they are usually very high so in many cases it's practically the same as if no fee has been agreed because no clubs can afford it anyway. Real Madrid bought Sergio Canales and he has such a clause in his contract and it's worth 150 million Euros...

And also, agreeing on a sensible fee before you know if a player has succeeded or not would be very difficult. The agreed fee would at least never be lower than what the club bought the player for...

Originally Posted by Filipéz 182

you mean like when a player signs a contract they have buy-out clause like 180m or so.
IMO thats a useless rule.

All players don't accept these useless clauses, some contracts have 5M...30M clauses that are more realistic. It's the work of the agents to check that. Like all clauses of a contract, it can be discussed. Of course, a guy like Messi doesn't care about remaining in Barcelona for 10 more years and as a consequence, he can put this kind of clause in his contract. We could have done the same thing with Maldini for example.

We could go further: they could make this rule of forcing clubs and players to put a buy-out clause, and also put a limit (for example, 40M). This way, no more inflated prices in football and all prices will probably even decrease in long term.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

All players don't accept these useless clauses, some contracts have 5M...30M clauses that are more realistic. It's the work of the agents to check that. Like all clauses of a contract, it can be discussed. Of course, a guy like Messi doesn't care about remaining in Barcelona for 10 more years and as a consequence, he can put this kind of clause in his contract. We could have done the same thing with Maldini for example.

We could go further: they could make this rule of forcing clubs and players to put a buy-out clause, and also put a limit (for example, 40M). This way, no more inflated prices in football and all prices will probably even decrease in long term.

I see your point dude, but I really don't think it would work very well.