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Old 29-07-2010, 13:41   #2401

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Its a good thing we don't play inter every week then isn't it.
we dont play with Siena every week either.
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Old 29-07-2010, 13:48   #2402

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http://www.football-italia.net/jul29w.html out for a week not a month thats good news.

Anyone watching Juve v Rovers ...split loyaltes lol my Dad is gone to it I couldnt working at 6:00 am would of got home from Dublin at about 3 :00 am so that was a no go Juve up 1-0 18 mins gone.

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Old 29-07-2010, 14:29   #2403

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Considering Our roster, its easier to play with 4-3-3, We failed with 4-3-1-2 at the start of last season, When Leo swiftched the formation to 4-3-3 , we succeded. Because Both Pato and Ronnie found more space and width with 4-3-3. Ronnie failed at trequartista role, Pato needs to be a little more physical in 4-3-1-2. Both Abate and Antonini did well, compared to expectations from them, with 4-3-3 they are responsibile with one more player from one wing, now they are alone on whole wing. it will decrease their perfonmances. Less space, more physical challenges will decrease Ronaldinho's and Pato's as well.

4-3-3 was the best formation for us, where our midfield and defences pressing in the front area, where Ronaldinho and Pato would find enough space, less physical challenges e.t.c.

There is no way we can play with 4-3-1-2 now. Our wing backs cant do that job, we need better wing backs than both Antonini and Abate, we need a box to box offensive midfielder, aka Seedorf, until 2008, complete midfielder like him. Then we need a moveable trequartista there. Pato and Borriello is good pair for it. 4-3-1-2 is good for Borriello but he will lack the service of Ronaldinho there. 4-3-1-2 is better with Seedorf as trequartista, then will lack him in midfield trio. if you have Cafu or Serginho, you can count on them, yet Abate and Antonini?

Boateng, i mean a player typee, a player can do something to change a game and a fighter. A player like that can be very useful for our team. Regarding Boateng, i follow him since German u21 team.

You are right about Berlusconi-Leo part, but we all know what Leo's 5 demand was. Reinforce the squad with young and quality players, new training methods e.t.c.

we can reduce the salaries by selling Gattuso, plus 2 m euros, with that money. You need Gattuso's sale's 2 M euros to sign a player? Come on, we just signed 3 Primavera players for 7 m euros.

Above all, 4-3-3 is better formation to us, we will struggle so mcuh with 4-3-1-2. lets wait and see.

Allegri is a dreamer, who sells dreams, its my first impression. he doesnt have any chance if you ask me.

Kaladze, Jankulovski, Oddo, Onyewu, Gattuso, inzaghi e.t.c

i mean we already have many CB's, we dont need Kaladze, we have enough players for wing back, no need for Oddo and Jankulovski. we signed Yepes and Papa, no need for Onyewu, even for Bonera. we have Borri, then Huntelaar, we could bring Paloschi, could get rid of inzaghi's wages. we could make around 20 m euros from wages at least. A Club who needs every cent of money couldnt behave like this. Already have enough CB's. Silva, Nesta as starters, then Yepes, Papa. its enough.
4 CB is enough, How many CB jvuentus have? Roma has Burdisso, Juan and Mexes. Juventus had Cannavaro now Bonucci,
Chiellini. i dont even remember other's cuz its not much. inter has Samuel, Lucio. then Materazzi and Cordoba. How many CB's we have?

-Bonera
-Kaladze
-Onyewu
-Yepes
-Silva
-Nesta
-Papa

is it normal for club who cant make transfers because of there is no money?

By the way, Our 7 m euros signings (2 of 3) will go on loan this season.
Rabia, you see things your way, but the facts are:
- Allegri said we would play 4-3-1-2, Pato will be used as a striker.
- About Boateng, what I asked was if you follow him in his club during a whole season ... because with a NT, in France, Guivarch, that almost nobody knows here I think, was almost a good player (he was in the winning team of France in 1998) when actually, this guy was nothing with his club.
- Do we need 2M to sign a player ? Do we need more ? Well, I don't know the club's finances, nor you, but anyway, it's the policy set by Galliani: a player leaves, a player replaces him. If Gattuso leaves for 2M, who will we buy with this money ?
- About Allegri, if I understand, you condamn him before he even coached his first official game with all players available ?
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Old 29-07-2010, 14:52   #2404

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Y we dont go for Giovinco from Juve is beyond me....
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Old 29-07-2010, 14:55   #2405

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Y we dont go for Giovinco from Juve is beyond me....
id doubt juve gives him to us anyway. thought they dont use him, they know he has potential.
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Old 29-07-2010, 15:09   #2406

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Rabia, you see things your way, but the facts are:
- Allegri said we would play 4-3-1-2, Pato will be used as a striker.
- About Boateng, what I asked was if you follow him in his club during a whole season ... because with a NT, in France, Guivarch, that almost nobody knows here I think, was almost a good player (he was in the winning team of France in 1998) when actually, this guy was nothing with his club.
- Do we need 2M to sign a player ? Do we need more ? Well, I don't know the club's finances, nor you, but anyway, it's the policy set by Galliani: a player leaves, a player replaces him. If Gattuso leaves for 2M, who will we buy with this money ?
- About Allegri, if I understand, you condamn him before he even coached his first official game with all players available ?
this can not happen with ronaldinho in the team. mark my words, we will change formation (4-3-3 probably) when dinho plays.
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id doubt juve gives him to us anyway. thought they dont use him, they know he has potential.
Yeh, I agree, but we should at least try...he would be a perfect fit for us...
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Old 29-07-2010, 16:42   #2408

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Rabia, you see things your way, but the facts are:
- Allegri said we would play 4-3-1-2, Pato will be used as a striker.
- About Boateng, what I asked was if you follow him in his club during a whole season ... because with a NT, in France, Guivarch, that almost nobody knows here I think, was almost a good player (he was in the winning team of France in 1998) when actually, this guy was nothing with his club.
- Do we need 2M to sign a player ? Do we need more ? Well, I don't know the club's finances, nor you, but anyway, it's the policy set by Galliani: a player leaves, a player replaces him. If Gattuso leaves for 2M, who will we buy with this money ?
- About Allegri, if I understand, you condamn him before he even coached his first official game with all players available ?
im surprised to see that you said that you watched Portmuth games. btw, i followed him at Hertha and Dortmund as i dont watch Protmusch or Tottenham games.

Regarding Guivarch, he was in winning team, off course but he was one of the weakest link, along with Karembeue. That team was amazing, except striker part. Dugary and him were the choices. Lets pass the part i dont agree with you, he was not nothing with his club, if i remember correctly,
he was top scorer with Auexerre, he performed well at the club, i cant say the same thing for France NT. They even didnt call him up since 1999.

A policy? Kaka left for 67 m euros? Milan didnt sign a player for that 67 m euros. with this policy, lets not expect world class signings unless we sell Thiago Silva or Pato. its better to keep them, you cant find better players then them.

Milan signed Papa, who left? Nobody. Favalli replaced by Yepes, Amelia replaced Dida. This policy didnt work for Papa. They renewed Oddo's.
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im surprised to see that you said that you watched Portmuth games. btw, i followed him at Hertha and Dortmund as i dont watch Protmusch or Tottenham games.

Regarding Guivarch, he was in winning team, off course but he was one of the weakest link, along with Karembeue. That team was amazing, except striker part. Dugary and him were the choices. Lets pass the part i dont agree with you, he was not nothing with his club, if i remember correctly,
he was top scorer with Auexerre, he performed well at the club, i cant say the same thing for France NT. They even didnt call him up since 1999.

A policy? Kaka left for 67 m euros? Milan didnt sign a player for that 67 m euros. with this policy, lets not expect world class signings unless we sell Thiago Silva or Pato. its better to keep them, you cant find better players then them.

Milan signed Papa, who left? Nobody. Favalli replaced by Yepes, Amelia replaced Dida. This policy didnt work for Papa. They renewed Oddo's.
Where di I say such a thing ? I asked you if you did ... because we all saw him during the WC, and yes, during this competition, he was very good. But we need to judge players on their season and not on one competition, especially when it is a competition with the NT and not the club. It's why I asked you if you watched him several times this season ?!

Second bold paragraph: do we disagree on the fact that we should keep these players ? No we don't ... I just said that when you say we should sell Gattuso to buy a more expensive player, it goes against what seem to do Galliani and co.

Favalli out, Yepes in.
Dida out, Amelia in.
No player out for moment, Papa in. But this one was a cheap deal and his salary is covered by the departure of Dida. And it was a needed player (not especially Papa, but a CD).

PS: If Thiago leaves, we'll have the player out for Papa ... but it's not something to hope nor expect !!
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supposedly we're going to loan out , adiyah with a option to buy to mainz in germany that genius considering we got overweight ronaldinho again , and we can't run why not loan out a 20 yr old who was already playing for the senor ghana team .... i swear this is so stressful and like always nothing about ben arfa ,
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supposedly we're going to loan out , adiyah with a option to buy to mainz in germany that genius considering we got overweight ronaldinho again , and we can't run why not loan out a 20 yr old who was already playing for the senor ghana team .... i swear this is so stressful and like always nothing about ben arfa ,
so basically adiyah was a waste of investment.
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Old 29-07-2010, 21:47   #2412

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so basically adiyah was a waste of investment.
I have Gourcuff on my mind. Hasnt baldy learned **** from that transfer?
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Old 29-07-2010, 21:56   #2413

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Serie A is hard. i'd be surprised if Allegri's Milan end up the league behind them.
Last year this forum predicted that we will struggle in mid-bottom table. C'mon guys don't be pessimistic, we are Milan! And as bad as an AC Milan could be, we will never struggle at the bottom.
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Old 29-07-2010, 22:26   #2414

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Y we dont go for Giovinco from Juve is beyond me....
It's crazy. Not one link all summer to this kid. We are "friendly" rivals when it comes to transfers so i dont see it as Impossible. But he most probably wants to start 100% of the time. Hence, only the Parma and Bari links...
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Old 29-07-2010, 23:43   #2415

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im not believing anything anymore until it sais Official beisde it.. were always linked with a bunch of players then were HEAVILY linked to a couple good players then a few days later galli or berlu come out and say were not buying anyone... and to the above few comments its 1000% impossible for us to be relegated or close to it, we may be doing very bad right now but very bad to us is not winning ucls and schudettos.. were still ac milan and i guarentee a finish in top 4 the worst we can do is top 7 but i doubt that

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