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Old 01-09-2010, 03:49   #4936

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If anyone knows all the accurate figures of our transfers and wages of the players in and gone, can they please post it? I want to see the total net amount we have invested this summer.
Someone posted in other forum. Here is the link. I don't know the reliability of the information.
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Old 01-09-2010, 03:58   #4937

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I can't believe my eyes that so many of you don't rate Robinho.
For me he was the best player in the Brazil squad, the most hard working, consistent and sharp.

I also think he will be our best player this season (among the newcomers)
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Old 01-09-2010, 04:04   #4938

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I can't believe my eyes that so many of you don't rate Robinho.
For me he was the best player in the Brazil squad, the most hard working, consistent and sharp.

I also think he will be our best player this season (among the newcomers)
I think it has to do with Ibra's effect.

If Robinho came to Milan before Ibra (and Ibra didn't join Milan), he would be rated by fans as the brasilian Messi!
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Old 01-09-2010, 04:10   #4939

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Anyone can summarize the info from this news : http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=33341

I tried to use Google translator but I lost. Thanks before.
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Old 01-09-2010, 04:13   #4940

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I want to point out that Roma have a an obligation to buy, not the option. And it's 10M, with no payment now. An anecdote: we originally wanted 15M, but according to Galliani this was Berlusconi's gift to a team which is our friend. (read it in this mornings Gazzetta) Probably trying to get some extra votes from Rome

Also, La Gazzetta are seriously talking about us playing the 4-2-3-1 formation from the start in some matches. I cannot wait for our next match and this season! (even if we play the same old 4-3-3).

I have to say though, we lack some quality in midfield and in defense. I'm sure we can score a bunch of goals, but we are vulnerable in the back. Hopefully we dont get too many injuries and we will reach at least the semi-finals of the CL and keep up with Inter till the end. I still think they are better than us, but with Ibra we are almost assured to beat the small teams and I think our cousins will loose some important points at the start of the season. Things aren't going so well for them psychologically speaking, while we are super psyched.
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Anyone can summarize the info from this news : http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=33341

I tried to use Google translator but I lost. Thanks before.
There was a deal between us and Fiorentina for a free loan of Abate with option to buy half of his price tag next summer. But Fiorentina wanted us to pay a certain amount his salary, which we weren't willing to do. The negotiations were therefore stopped.
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Do you have reliable source for the transfer of Borri? What I understand, Roma paid 2 m for the loan and 13 mil for the buy.
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There was a deal between us and Fiorentina for a free loan of Abate with option to buy half of his price tag next summer. But Fiorentina wanted us to pay a certain amount his salary, which we weren't willing to do. The negotiations were therefore stopped.
Ah ok. Thank you, Gio-mania.
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Someone posted in other forum. Here is the link. I don't know the reliability of the information.

Good work.

However, if we focus on only this season:

Spent: 37M, receive 21,.5M, plus 2.1M wage budget. About 18M. We have 20M total this year, 10 (used 11) for young department and 10 (used 7) for first team. What a great management.

The payment for next year is the problem of next year, Silvio Berlusconi has a good tactic to outsmart his daughter

For now, let's waiting for the time

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Old 01-09-2010, 04:26   #4945

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Can I just say that Rafa is destroying Inter already?

Besides the Super Cup or that Bologna game. But Inter's director, Branca, said that Inter's "Ibra" transfer was the fact that they could keep Maicon.
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look, we must not start writting we have make a super team cause we bought 2 class strikers....
our team is weak in fullbaks position and this position its important for every club.....
the 2 bakcs helps the team very very much.When a team is attacking the bakcs goes forward to help the team in attack and make Plus +1 attacker.........and when the deam is defending to to his defence fine.......the fullbacks role is to run in every minute of the game, and do ti all, attack and defence..........

That guy Coentrao is amazing for LB.....he is perfect...
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look, we must not start writting we have make a super team cause we bought 2 class strikers....
our team is weak in fullbaks position and this position its important for every club.....
the 2 bakcs helps the team very very much.When a team is attacking the bakcs goes forward to help the team in attack and make Plus +1 attacker.........and when the deam is defending to to his defence fine.......the fullbacks role is to run in every minute of the game, and do ti all, attack and defence..........

That guy Coentrao is amazing for LB.....he is perfect...
I totally agree. In addition we should also consider our CB who can play as fullback. This is not for supporting the attack but more to balance the team. We need it since our attack is so offensive (mostly not tracking back).

We have depth both for defense and midfield but we lack of creativity and offensive players for both department.
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Emalgo 99, i'm afraid this bit from goal.com is an accurate description of our problem areas.

"By signing two luxury players, Milan neglected more pressing positions, and Berlusconi and Galliani once again have let the coach down.

Going into the transfer window, Milan needed more bodies in midfield and a fullback. Kevin-Prince Boateng and Sokratis Papastathopoulos were weak nods in that direction, but not the answers.

Since the Rossoneri won the Champions League in 2007, Rino Gattuso has steadily declined, to the point where he can no longer be considered a viable option for anything more than a bit-part role. In his heyday, the snarling midfielder was worth two players, putting in one shift down the right flank and the other next to Andrea Pirlo in the center of the park, allowing Pirlo to meander about and connect play.

Though he hasn't left, Milan has failed to replace his presence. (Number of trophies won since 2007: zero.)

Pirlo's decrease in mobility, coupled with captain Massimo Ambrosini's exposure against clubs of the highest quality, leaves the midfield increasingly frail. Without an energetic option at rightback (centerback Daniele Bonera played there against Lecce, though Sokratis is another stay-at-home option), how the owners expect the ball to move from defense to attack against high-pressure systems is baffling."


Now don't get me wrong, getting both Ibrahimovic (guaranteed serie a goal scorer) and Robinho is a fantastic effort, you can't not feel excited about it.

However, as Brasiliero and one or two others pointed out, our midfield/defence is lacking the energy to make the team work. I really can't believe some of you are writing starting line-ups with Pirlo starting in a 2 man midfield or a midfield 3 of Ambrosini, Pirlo, Seedorf. Against the better teams, we'd be destroyed with that as our midfield, remember Old Trafford?

Flamini has to start and one between Ambrosini/KPB has to be with him. It's the only way you can make our now 'stellar' forward line work for the team.

To sum up, as fantastic as the last couple of weeks have been, this is only about half of what needs doing to make us more competitive in ALL competitions. Lets hope it's the start of things to come!
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:09   #4949

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I think, if we want to look at the problem of our team clearly, we should look at our journey last season. Why we lost many games in last third or fourth part of the league? Why we lost 0-4 to MU?

IMO it was mostly because of lack of depth in or we have problem like:
1. CB--> Nesta. It was like No Nesta No Party. Now we have good covered for CB. We have Yepes and Sokratis.
2. Pato--> He left the games so often but we could see as he played with the team we could win many games. The problem was we didn't have skilled second striker or similar type right wing forward like Pato. Solution: We have now Robinho.
3. We were also so dependent on Ronaldinho. Now we have Robinho who can play in Ronaldinho position AND Ibra so we can change the line up to put Ibra as striker and other as second striker.
4. We faced difficulties against small team (just to score 1 goal). We have now Ibra who hopefully can be used to minimize the problem.

As I said before, we are good covered for defense and midfield. The problem is that we lack creative and/or offensive player in respective departments.
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:37   #4950

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It seems that Allegri asked the president to buy the alternative forward for Ronaldinho and Pato: Ibra and/or Robinho. (I may lost with the translation of google translator to translate milannews, the site the information comes from).
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