Winter Mercato 2011

Originally Posted by Reza

Berlusconi wants ADP in Milan.
I don't know or really want to know if it's true or not.

Perhaps he'd been watching some old tapes of the Del-Pippo duo and felt nostalgic. You know, he tried to buy Alex when he was still a teenager in Padova, and some years ago even Carletto mooted the same idea.


Anyway I think that's just another odd sense of humour on his part and what he really meant was to praise ADP's illustrious career.

Bruno Cesar with his 13th season goal. Golaco from distance. His left foot is to die for.

gol already uploaded,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0BWMGR5L_o

Originally Posted by bayern

I don't think Bruno Cesar would flop at Milan, because he already plays like a European playmaker and not like a brasilian revelation with two million dribbling. :neymar:

Bruno Cesar plays like a European?!?! Disagree... We really see a different Bruno Cesar playing. He has the same problem Ganso´s had in the near past... Can´t play in tight spaces. If he doesn´t improve, will flop badly in Europe.

Are you saying Bruno Cesar is better than Neymar?!? Wow!! Btw, you better watch Neymar more, because his game and million dribbles can´t be put in the same sentence.

By the way, in all games Bruno faced Ganso, Bruno was better than PH Ganso. In Santo Andre jersey as much as in Corinthians jersey.

Not true... Branquinho and Caio were the best midfielders of Santo Andre versus Santos. A FK goal doesn´t make a player the best on the pitch. At least in my book...

Ganso is a good prospect. But he is also one big hype.

"Good prospect"?!?! C´mon bayern...

The hype is deserved... Ganso worked on his game(weakness), improved the work rate, learned how to play in tight spaces and is a much better player, now. Bruno Cesar is still being sub off a lot in Corinthians games by the last 3 coaches(Mano menezes, Adilson Batista and now, Tite). He can´t even be consistent in Brazil... How can you say he´s ready for Europe?!?

edit:
BTW: BC10 is playing tonight - people should make a picture themselves.

Yep, you´re right.

It will be good to see were Ganso/Neymar and Bruno Cesar will be next season...

Originally Posted by Siregar

Do you follow his games in Portuguese League regularly?

I saw all of his games in World Cup and 2 games in Benfica. Then, I watched some highlight reels. Probably need to see more, but what I've seen I like. There are not many other LB's out there right now available. And after tonight's Zambrotta performance, let's be honest, we're desperate.

It's funny how everyone says how Coentrao and Bale are NOT FB's. But, then I say to them what about ABATE??? He's NOT a FB either, but plays there... not very well obviously, but I think these other guys are better... more talented..

Originally Posted by gregorio

Our main problem is the midfield!
Look at Barcelona and the spanish team, they have Xavi and Iniesta and they are dominating almost every game, not because of Messi, because of these two midfielders! Without them Messi wouldn't be that awsome!!
Most games are decided in the midfield!!
When Pirlo, Seedorf and Gattuso were in their prime, we won every battle in the midfield!
If the midfield works well, they put the strikers in better position to score, and help the defense and take some pressure off from them!
Nowadays soccer is faster and faster and needs lots of space and stamina besides the creativity!
Our attack is one of the strongest in the world, our defense is not so bad (of course it would be nice to have two great fullbacks, but Nesta and Thiago Silva are one of the bests)
But our midfielders are finished, they are twoo old, slow and not hungry, motivated! In the last 10 years we always changed our attack and defense but our midfield remained almost the same!
We can dominate in one or two games with this midfield, or small teams in Seria A, but in Europe, not any more and we miss consistency!
Everyone says that Seedorf, Gattuso and Ambrosini are finished, yes I agree, they are done, but I see our biggest flop and luxury is Pirlo! Yes, he can pass, and his vision is super, but that's all, he is slow, can't run any more, can't dribble, and he is a luxury in our midfield! We would need two defensive guy to cover up Pirlo!
Beside Xavi and Iniesta I only see 3 guys who can be a great Pirlo replacement: Fabregas, Hernanes, Modric! It's easier to find great defensive midfielders, but it's very rare to find creative guys who can dictate the tempo!
I wouldn't change our attack next summer, I would add min. one fb and cb, but I totally revolutionised our midfield!
We have to get rid of Seedorf, Pirlo, Gattuso and Ambrosini, invest in one creative and one defensive midfielder and bring up Merkel, who can bring a german mentality, to die on the pitch!!
Flamini, Boateng, Merkel, Strasser, Poli, CM, DM and we are set!
Ronaldinho, Robinho and Pato would be much better behind this midfield, and our defense would have less pressure!

spot on!!!!! but we dont have the money to transform the sqaud

Originally Posted by Elmago99

I saw all of his games in World Cup and 2 games in Benfica. Then, I watched some highlight reels. Probably need to see more, but what I've seen I like. There are not many other LB's out there right now available. And after tonight's Zambrotta performance, let's be honest, we're desperate.

It's funny how everyone says how Coentrao and Bale are NOT FB's. But, then I say to them what about ABATE??? He's NOT a FB either, but plays there... not very well obviously, but I think these other guys are better... more talented..

IMO the problem is that contrao is pretty expensive and he is not yet a fullback. Very difficult to get him (because of his price and Milan financial situation) and when we get him we still don't know if he can be a good fullback or not.

Originally Posted by Siregar

IMO the problem is that contrao is pretty expensive and he is not yet a fullback. Very difficult to get him (because of his price and Milan financial situation) and when we get him we still don't know if he can be a good fullback or not.

Yes so what are we to do?

Originally Posted by GeoTav

EDIT: Just read what said Ibra ... That's quite interesting, he would like to play more with Inzaghi because of the way he plays, being more often in the area and letting Ibra play like he wants, be more free, and as a consequence, it was easier for him to pass to Inzaghi.

Goes to show you, that Robinho was possibly wrong player to buy. Huntelaar and Borriello were wrong players to sell possibly.

Perhaps we should have kept Huntelaar and paired him with Ibra....Pato would have prob started but at least we would have had that option. Now, we have all incompatible players with Ibra (Pato, Binho, Dinho)....

I'm proud of Galliani for buying us some players, but looking back I'm starting to think there was no method but just finding good deals,,,

Now we have a team who's not balanced.

Ibra CLEARLY does not want to be the #9 Striker... he wants to be SS

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

Are you saying Bruno Cesar is better than Neymar?!? Wow!! Btw, you better watch Neymar more, because his game and million dribbles can´t be put in the same sentence.

I did not have the intention to compare these two guys. But IMHO Bruno is already more European material than Neymar. I doubt that his endless dribblings (he is fun to watch!) are something you can fool European defenders for long.

By the way,

according to the group who has the rights of Bruno, Ganso and Neymar, Bruno is the player, who is the most wanted by European clubs in the upcoming transfer time. The interest in Neymar is down, because no one wants to pay 35M€ for this kid.

Not true... Branquinho and Caio were the best midfielders of Santo Andre versus Santos. A FK goal doesn´t make a player the best on the pitch. At least in my book...

I was comparing BC and Ganso not the other Santos midfielders.

Bruno Cesar is still being sub off a lot in Corinthians games by the last 3 coaches(Mano menezes, Adilson Batista and now, Tite). He can´t even be consistent in Brazil... How can you say he´s ready for Europe?!?

He is pretty much consistent,

http://www.transfermarkt.de/en/bruno...er_110074.html

if you keep in mind that he arrived just in May, and now is the only one with his goals and asists why this team is still in title race.
Bruno Cesar was taken of by Tite (BC scored the final 1-0, next game asisting the Ronaldo goal) because he just came back from an injury and he wasn't fit for 90 minutes, and in the last game, Tite did not want to risk Bruno getting banned (yellow cards), Adilson was a fool and had no idea how BC is best needed, position wise, it is not really surprising that this Adilson time was the weakest time of whole Corinthians.

It will be good to see were Ganso/Neymar and Bruno Cesar will be next season...

THIS !

By the way what do you think of Lucas from SPFC ? He looks like a promising youngster, almost plays and dribbles like being the Neymar of Sao Paulo.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy...-diarra-report

We're linked with Lassana Diarra. What does everyone think of him. There must be a reason Mourinho hasn't used him much. He seems to fit in the 4-2-3-1 system. Many teams are playing that formation but we don't seem to have the players for that system (lazy wide players who don't defend)...

I'm starting to wonder and second guess what formation we use. The most logical would be a 4-3-1-2.... but I'm not sure the exact players we need to fill in. Perhaps:

----------------Pato---------------
--------Ibra------------------------
--------------Ganso---------------
-----Jucilei------------Boateng---
----------------Pirlo----------------
Coentrao-------------------????????
-----------T. Silva--Nesta-----------
---------------Abbiati-------------

Something to that effect is what we need. But I could be wrong...how would Diarra fit into that squad.... I frankly don't see a spot for Ronaldinho ... and Robinho is still a sub ... for Pato or Ibra...

Originally Posted by Elmago99

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy...-diarra-report

We're linked with Lassana Diarra. What does everyone think of him. There must be a reason Mourinho hasn't used him much. He seems to fit in the 4-2-3-1 system. Many teams are playing that formation but we don't seem to have the players for that system (lazy wide players who don't defend)...

I'm starting to wonder and second guess what formation we use. The most logical would be a 4-3-1-2.... but I'm not sure the exact players we need to fill in. Perhaps:

----------------Pato---------------
--------Ibra------------------------
--------------Ganso---------------
-----Jucilei------------Boateng---
----------------Pirlo----------------
Coentrao-------------------????????
-----------T. Silva--Nesta-----------
---------------Abbiati-------------

Something to that effect is what we need. But I could be wrong...how would Diarra fit into that squad.... I frankly don't see a spot for Ronaldinho ... and Robinho is still a sub ... for Pato or Ibra...

If your squad is like that, Boateng shouldn't be there as starting line-up. He doesn't fulfill the quality for Milan if we refer the quality of others. He is our favorite option only because of his fighting spirit. Other than that he is average until now.

Originally Posted by Siregar

If your squad is like that, Boateng shouldn't be there as starting line-up. He doesn't fulfill the quality for Milan if we refer the quality of others. He is our favorite option only because of his fighting spirit. Other than that he is average until now.

So then who to replace him? That's what im sort of asking. Enough with the problems, someone give solutions..

I really like lass diarra, think he is a beast.


Europa League Italian teams:

Juve 0-0 Salzburg
Samp 0-0 Metalist
CSKA 3-1 Palermo
Liverpool 3-1 Napoli

fa' these italian teams them pieces of shyt they dont give anyone any reason to feel bad for them or to support them... shameless teams

Originally Posted by Elmago99

So then who to replace him? That's what im sort of asking. Enough with the problems, someone give solutions..

Poli, Lazari (they have been linked with us)? I don't know exactly since I never watch them.

I can only rate our players since I watch them often.

i love lass,i think its mou's biggest mistake not using him more often..

he tottally fits our system,his stamina is out of this planet,he runs like hell,i pray we get him..i'd place him together with rino or flamini and pirlo..BALANCE

ps boateng is simply one f the worst on the field the last couple of games,and considering seedorf's form i think ambro will and should take his place..

Originally Posted by M.O.I.

i love lass,i think its mou's biggest mistake not using him more often..

he tottally fits our system,his stamina is out of this planet,he runs like hell,i pray we get him..i'd place him together with rino or flamini and pirlo..BALANCE

ps boateng is simply one f the worst on the field the last couple of games,and considering seedorf's form i think ambro will and should take his place..

Is he cup tied? It could the player we need to help Pirlo. The only player that capable to help Pirlo build the game and deliver the ball to the forwards only Ambrosini because of his good tactical awareness and knowledge but it is not enough (I don't count Seedorf since he can't help much to defend). With Boateng, Pirlo and Gattuso our game will stuck. Pirlo can't do it all himself, he need player to connect the midfield to the forwards.