Winter Mercato 2011

Originally Posted by LebRN

Cannot believe any Milanista could ask for Pato to be gone!!!!
would never trade this kid for anyone in the world (except Messi)
I don't care about the injuries (frustrating and frequent as they are)
I don't believe the attitude rumours
Pato has the potential (we all know) and will fulfill it (apparently we don't all agree on this point).
his body will get stronger
he will learn to work more for the team (hell if Ibra learned that at the age of 27-28, there is no reason a 21 yr-old will not)
and he will be the best striker in the world

Robinho & Cassano can fight it over for the CAM role for all i care (happy to have them both but not on Pato's expense)
i want to see Ibra & Pato playing together and Pato as the Striker
I will never forget the 1st half season he played for us, i was so happy we found a gem like that.
If someone can show the stats for our strikers this year, they will show how effective and lethal Pato is

Pato should be our striker for the next 10 years ...period

Agreed! I definitiely want Pato to stay at Milan for as long as possible. Hopefully he can be less injured in the future, because he so talented and important for our club.

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He will coming (winter market or summer)
I say this with confidence !

EXCLUSIVE

oh .. I apologize !

I new member in website, i want be friend for all
Sultan A.

Originally Posted by ѕυρεя ѕнενα

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He will coming (winter market or summer)
I say this with confidence !

EXCLUSIVE

looks like it is gaining momentum.

Originally Posted by ѕυρεя ѕнενα

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He will coming (winter market or summer)
I say this with confidence !

EXCLUSIVE

where do you get this news from...?


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Originally Posted by ѕυρεя ѕнενα

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He will coming (winter market or summer)
I say this with confidence !

EXCLUSIVE

First of all welcome to MM

Secondly, Torres is no more AC Milan standard. He just had a fluke with Liverpool 2 years ago & every one started calling him a legend The guy couldn't score for the WC winning team in 5-7 matches, what else the world wants to see before declaring him an average striker?

Originally Posted by mzk57

First of all welcome to MM

Secondly, Torres is no more AC Milan standard. He just had a fluke with Liverpool 2 years ago & every one started calling him a legend The guy couldn't score for the WC winning team in 5-7 matches, what else the world wants to see before declaring him an average striker?

agreed fully. Every single one of our strikers is better than Torres right now, by quite alot to. What ever happened to our youth players like Oduamadi, Verdi, Beretta, Zigoni? Are they that bad or are we that harsh in giving them chances?

Originally Posted by Nando

Word is Pato is out the door next season, due to character issues+injury prowess. Allegri is getting tired of this... In fact, in his last few appearences Pato was always benched. Ibrahimovic we all agree is an iron man, but even he will need rest. Plus everybody seems to forget the Coppa Italia. Berlusconi is tired of staying behind Inter 5 years running. Anybody find strange that for the past 5 years societary policy with regards to buying was one of austerity and now all of a sudden he goes out and buys Ibra and Binho? Fact is he and Allegri see eye to eye, while this did not happen with Leo and the last Ancelotti. Also, he recently brought in his daughter, Barbara Berlusconi, in order to revamp the environment.
Plus, who said we are not working on a midfielder (see Kevin Constant and maybe Poli of Sampdoria) or a fullback (Coentrao for example)

IN GALLIANI WE TRUST!

Originally Posted by Nando

Ever since Ibra got here, Pato has been upset about it, because he sees Ibra taking the leadership in the attack, a role Pato thinks he deserves. This primadonna attitude has upset more than one of the senators (Ambro, Gattuso, Pirlo, Seed), who have told him more than once to be more humble and play for the team (come back to cover, pass the ball more often) and not be selfish. Also Allegri is upset at his phisical fragility and his inability yo play through the pain (even if he feels little pain he will ask to be subbed), and is apparently convinced that it is more of a psicological problem than a true physical problem. This is what went on behind the scene and why Allegri has benched him in his last few appearances before his injury.

I'm sorry but I find that hard to believe. Pato's character is one of confidence and while he does need to mature (acknowledged publicly by both Allegri and Ambro), I don't think it's negative or harmful. He's selfish on the pitch and not always working hard enough (same could have been said of Ibra), but these are things which can be worked on and I'm sure Allegri is aware of this given his track record of getting the best out of players. Off the pitch he's had plenty of personal problems like his divorce, something I'm sure the club and coach will appreciate, but has always spoken about being available for the coach, which again I'm sure Allegri will appreciate.

His injuries cannot be blamed either and the club knows this (or else it wouldn't have sent him to the US for further tests). If he kept getting injured for a day or two then I'd think there's reason to believe he's not able to play through pain, but every time he's gotten injured he's been out for a lengthy period, suggesting there are some problems which need resolving.

Finally, you mentioned twice that Allegri has been benching him. That's incorrect as he's almost always started when fit. He's only made two appearances off the bench and I distinctly remember one of those being after his previous injury. In the last match he played when he got injured (Palermo) he started, scored and also was working very hard throughout the match (going back to his apparent attitude problem).

Originally Posted by LebRN

Cannot believe any Milanista could ask for Pato to be gone!!!!
would never trade this kid for anyone in the world (except Messi)
I don't care about the injuries (frustrating and frequent as they are)
I don't believe the attitude rumours
Pato has the potential (we all know) and will fulfill it (apparently we don't all agree on this point).
his body will get stronger
he will learn to work more for the team (hell if Ibra learned that at the age of 27-28, there is no reason a 21 yr-old will not)
and he will be the best striker in the world

Robinho & Cassano can fight it over for the CAM role for all i care (happy to have them both but not on Pato's expense)
i want to see Ibra & Pato playing together and Pato as the Striker
I will never forget the 1st half season he played for us, i was so happy we found a gem like that.
If someone can show the stats for our strikers this year, they will show how effective and lethal Pato is

Pato should be our striker for the next 10 years ...period

As far as stats go (source: ESPN), see below. I've shown Serie A stats only as that has been our primary goal this season and we're yet to see the same consistency in CL.

Ibrahimovic
Games played : 16 (0 as sub)
Goals : 9
Assists : 7

Pato
Games Played : 8 (2 as sub)
Goals : 6
Assists : 0

Inzaghi
Games Played : 5 (4 as sub)
Goals : 2
Assists : 0

Robinho
Games Played : 15 (4 as sub)
Goals : 6
Assists : 0

Ronaldinho
Games Played : 11 (4 as sub)
Goals : 0
Assists : 3

Ibra is our best performing forward if you look at goals and assists, but Pato has the best goals to games ratio. If we consider that his season has been dogged by injuries until now, then the statistics he has are phenomenal.

We need to have a 'like' function in our website (see http://milanmania.com/forums/showthr...t=26762&page=2 why we may be losing functions and have you say there!), because Dev's post is classic.

Thumbs up to Dev. A wonderful illustration of what a great post is supposed to be.

According to reports:

Pato will leave Milan in June
Fernando Torres alternative!

Inzaghi will renew the contract for another year

Torres will join in this case along with Ibrahimovic, Cassano, Inzaghi, Robinho

Exclusive

It all depends how much money Milan can take out from sell Pato... If we can take one more CF ( Balotelli, torres ) and one more IMPORTANT player like Ganso, Coentrao...then its ok... But to change Pato with Torres is not a smart move...

The arrival of Torres to Milan, depends entirely on the exit of Pato, who in the case of Milan has seen off we get the amount of 50 million euros, in this case is sure to come Torres, or at least (Edin Dzeko) .

While the rest of the centers must be through the budget and profit club and Berlusconi's own funds, where should I get Ganso (player FC Santos) or Lamela (player River Palte) in playmaker, and in the back must be enhanced through access Fabio Coentrao (player Benfica) .

In the line of defense, there are many options, I personally I think it is better to (Davide Astori of Cagliari), a defender for a young Italian who grew up in Milan Academy, and in this season offers outstanding level....

Originally Posted by ѕυρεя ѕнενα

According to reports:

Pato will leave Milan in June
Fernando Torres alternative!

Inzaghi will renew the contract for another year

Torres will join in this case along with Ibrahimovic, Cassano, Inzaghi, Robinho

I'm curious to read these reports ... especially when there is no rumour in Italy, nor in England, which are the countries where the involved players play !!

Originally Posted by ѕυρεя ѕнενα

According to reports:

Pato will leave Milan in June
Fernando Torres alternative!

Inzaghi will renew the contract for another year

Torres will join in this case along with Ibrahimovic, Cassano, Inzaghi, Robinho

Exclusive

Source please, or you'd be easily labelled as people who came with made-up, seemingly-sensational gossips. And don't use words EXCLUSIVE or "according to reports" if you don't have a clear source. You know, this info about Torres is coming from nowhere now, and I don't want and don't intend to attack you personally, but at least tell us where did you get this news from, it'll be very helpful.

Originally Posted by mzk57

First of all welcome to MM

Secondly, Torres is no more AC Milan standard. He just had a fluke with Liverpool 2 years ago & every one started calling him a legend The guy couldn't score for the WC winning team in 5-7 matches, what else the world wants to see before declaring him an average striker?

WTF !? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TORRES PLAYED INJURED IN THE WORLD CUP AND RIPPED HIS GROIN AT THE END OF THE FINAL IN EXTRA TIME ? , THATS WHY HE DIDNT START ! ? , FLUKE 2 YEARS ? ARE YOU SMOKING CRACK ? I GUESS YOU FORGOT ABOUT ALL OF EL NINOS GOALS IN THE UEFA CL AND STILL WORKING HARD IN EUROPA LEAGUE ? HOW ABOUT WHEN HE SINGLED HANDEDLY DESTROYED CHELSEA THIS YEAR SCORING 2 GOALS BY HIMSELF WHEN THEY WERE ON FIRE ! ? I GUESS YOU DONT WATCH A LOT OF FOOTBALL DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU MOUTH OFF AND DONT ANALYSE FOOTBALL ENOUGH ! ,