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payne · 29-01-2011, 22:58

we are about to finalize astori, i guess all the pain of seeing milan struggle as we balanced the books, are finally starting to pay off.

Elmago99 · 29-01-2011, 23:26

Things have greatly changed in this past week. (I'd love for Brasileiro to comment on following)

Apparently, Milan's management are thinking in the future that T. Silva will be their CDM!... they're trying to get Astori as CB in June, and possibly another CB. This will greatly affect us as well as the Brazil National Team. Very interesting...

http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=44133

zafrul · 29-01-2011, 23:35

What position does astori play and which club is he playing now?

ZvonimirBoban · 30-01-2011, 00:04

Centre-back, now in Cagliari, co-owned since two years ago, if I'm not mistaken?

Aficio · 30-01-2011, 01:56

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Originally Posted by dejo

Aficio I respect your opinion but I'm now even more sure that Lucas's aquisition was not needed...closest to Robinho?I believe that Robinho's subtitute is Cassano or even Ganso(on AM position if rumors are true)I am very skeptical but I hope I'm wrong about this...

He is not much needed for the team now, but for the future, yes, my friend ^^

This boy is only 18, like Pato's case, he will have time to learn and adapt to the Italian/Milan style.

IMO, position is not something concrete and each player has his own way to play in that position. In those 3 names: Binho likes to move a lot, eager to support his teammate. Cassano likes to hold the ball and do what he wants with it. However, none of them are true ACM. Ganso is like Rui Costa, a true ACM, so I think if he comes, he will play ACM, Binho & Cassano will play SS.

Again, I agree that this transfer seems not much needed, but if you look at the injury crisis we are suffering now, a young talent like him, Merkel, Strasser or a near retire like Van Bommel are needed. We don't hope for the injuries but we must prepare for the worst.

dejo · 30-01-2011, 02:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aficio

He is not much needed for the team now, but for the future, yes, my friend ^^

This boy is only 18, like Pato's case, he will have time to learn and adapt to the Italian/Milan style.

IMO, position is not something concrete and each player has his own way to play in that position. In those 3 names: Binho likes to move a lot, eager to support his teammate. Cassano likes to hold the ball and do what he wants with it. However, none of them are true ACM. Ganso is like Rui Costa, a true ACM, so I think if he comes, he will play ACM, Binho & Cassano will play SS.

Again, I agree that this transfer seems not much needed, but if you look at the injury crisis we are suffering now, a young talent like him, Merkel, Strasser or a near retire like Van Bommel are needed. We don't hope for the injuries but we must prepare for the worst.

Cassano

Yes if you put it that way,we have to prepare ourselves for the worst,if I'm not mistaken,last year's january and this january are two periods where many of our players got injured....

and yes I also think that Ganso is pure AM,what I ment to say before that right now we don't have that kind of player(maybe Merkel) so Robinho and Cassano have to play this position...I AGREE WITH YOU

abbeyleemaniac · 30-01-2011, 04:51

i didnt see enough of Ganso to judge him, yet like i said before he looked to me a Alex with more workrate...

However i must ask some questions to my friends who saw Ganso more than i do...

is he track back? he runs a lot? he is moveable? i mean he comes back to get the ball or he stay where he is and ask for ball? how about his shooting abilitry and finishing? his movement on the field? movement to the box? is he dynamic? his pace?

Jay Crisp · 30-01-2011, 08:41

Has this Lucas kid actually signed to come in the summer??

Siregar · 30-01-2011, 09:00

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Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

Has this Lucas kid actually signed to come in the summer??

Seems still rumor. Brasileiro should explain this to us.

GeoTav · 30-01-2011, 09:45

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Originally Posted by dejo

Why are you talking about signing goalkeepers?!Abbiati and Amelia are much better than Marchetti or Sirigu...

Aficio I respect your opinion but I'm now even more sure that Lucas's aquisition was not needed...closest to Robinho?I believe that Robinho's subtitute is Cassano or even Ganso(on AM position if rumors are true)I am very skeptical but I hope I'm wrong about this...

I completely agree about Merkel,IMO he can play all positions in midfield...

Abbiati is amazing and deserves to play, but we also have to prepare the future, and a guy like Sirigu is perfect for our near future as he's at the same level as Abbiati or just below (but 10+ years younger) ...

And no way Amelia is better than Sirigu ...

Nowadays, I think in Italy, the GK hierarchy is the following one:
Abb > Sirigu > Julio Cesar > Storari > Amelia, Marchetti, ...

Aficio · 30-01-2011, 09:54

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Originally Posted by GeoTav

Nowadays, I think in Italy, the GK hierarchy is the following one:
Abb > Sirigu > Julio Cesar > Storari > Amelia, Marchetti, ...

You miss Buffon

Well, both Buffon & Cesar are better than Abb, but at this time, their form is much worse.

fLame · 30-01-2011, 10:24

For those praising Pastore, and saying you would swap him for Pato any day.
I am watchin Palermo - Inter and Pastore missed a 1-on-1 and a penalty. :facepalm:

The score is 2:1 and those misses can prover very very very costly.
Yet another promising talent blown our of proportions. I wouldn't swap Pato for two Pastores

Siregar · 30-01-2011, 10:30

Merda vs Palermo we are dicussing here: http://www.milanmania.com/forums/sho...t=26072&page=3

Aficio · 30-01-2011, 11:07

We should sign Sirigu if he continues this form.

Arildonardo · 30-01-2011, 11:09

Astori? Not that impressed by him when I've seen him play. But maybe he can improve by playing together with better players at Milan. Anyway, I really don't see Thiago Silva moving to midfield, we've got so many quite decent midfielders now and too few great defenders. I'd rather see Silva play at the back now that Nesta is probably nearing the end of his career.

29-01-2011, 22:58	#2341
payne Registered User Join Date: 03 2008 Location: Jamaica Fave Players: VDV, Thiago Silva, Hazard, Rui Costa	we are about to finalize astori, i guess all the pain of seeing milan struggle as we balanced the books, are finally starting to pay off. __________________ Galliani here is the plan Sell:Kaladze, Boriello, Janku, Oddo, Gennaro, Gattuso, Seedorf Buy:VDV/Drenthe and Dos Santos

30-01-2011, 00:04	#2344
ZvonimirBoban Registered User Join Date: 04 2008 Location: IN-DO-NE-SIA... Fave Players: my username, Baresi, Kaka, GATTUSO, Maldini, Pippo	Centre-back, now in Cagliari, co-owned since two years ago, if I'm not mistaken? __________________ MILAN! MILAN! SOLO CON TE! MILAN! MILAN! SEMPRE PER TE!

30-01-2011, 08:41	#2348
Jay Crisp Registered User Join Date: 06 2009 Location: Cork , Ireland Fave Players: Maldini , Boban , Van Basten , Pato , Albertini ,	Has this Lucas kid actually signed to come in the summer?? __________________ Somwhere in the world a woman gives birth every 90 seconds , she must be found and stopped.

30-01-2011, 10:24	#2352
fLame Registered User Join Date: 02 2009 Location: Milan Fave Players: Kaka, Pato, Seedorf, Pirlo	For those praising Pastore, and saying you would swap him for Pato any day. I am watchin Palermo - Inter and Pastore missed a 1-on-1 and a penalty. :facepalm: The score is 2:1 and those misses can prover very very very costly. Yet another promising talent blown our of proportions. I wouldn't swap Pato for two Pastores __________________ always rosso. always nero. always a rossonero.

30-01-2011, 10:30	#2353
Siregar Registered User Join Date: 02 2007 Location: Franken Fave Players: Marco Ezio FOSSATI & Simone Andrea GANZ	Merda vs Palermo we are dicussing here: http://www.milanmania.com/forums/sho...t=26072&page=3 __________________ ´ If Tassotti, Baresi, Costacurta and I are going to have a coffee now, we would put us in line and keeping the space unintentionally.

29-01-2011, 23:26	#2342
Elmago99 Registered User Join Date: 06 2010 Location: New York Fave Players: Nesta, Pippo, Ibra, Rino, Maldini, Tevez, Drogba	Things have greatly changed in this past week. (I'd love for Brasileiro to comment on following) Apparently, Milan's management are thinking in the future that T. Silva will be their CDM!... they're trying to get Astori as CB in June, and possibly another CB. This will greatly affect us as well as the Brazil National Team. Very interesting... http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=44133

29-01-2011, 23:35	#2343
zafrul Registered User Join Date: 01 2000 Location: Kuala Lumpur	What position does astori play and which club is he playing now?

30-01-2011, 04:51	#2347
abbeyleemaniac Registered User Join Date: 10 2010	i didnt see enough of Ganso to judge him, yet like i said before he looked to me a Alex with more workrate... However i must ask some questions to my friends who saw Ganso more than i do... is he track back? he runs a lot? he is moveable? i mean he comes back to get the ball or he stay where he is and ask for ball? how about his shooting abilitry and finishing? his movement on the field? movement to the box? is he dynamic? his pace?

30-01-2011, 11:07	#2354
Aficio Registered User Join Date: 11 2006 Fave Players: Maradona & Paolo Maldini	We should sign Sirigu if he continues this form.

30-01-2011, 11:09	#2355
Arildonardo Registered User Join Date: 08 2001 Location: Kristiansand, Norway Fave Players: Maldini, Pirlo, Gattuso, Pato!	Astori? Not that impressed by him when I've seen him play. But maybe he can improve by playing together with better players at Milan. Anyway, I really don't see Thiago Silva moving to midfield, we've got so many quite decent midfielders now and too few great defenders. I'd rather see Silva play at the back now that Nesta is probably nearing the end of his career.

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Aficio

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