Ancelottis Future?

Very unreasonable indeed Xudong! And Jim does indeed raise a good point.

maybe Belusconi would like a challenge lol..

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

Though, in truth, the data above begs the question: How many of his scudetti were Moggi influenced?

Maybe all of them, maybe none of them, maybe one or two.
Nevertheless, the fact remains that whenever he won a scudetto he was very successful in Champions league, where he played in the final 4 times.
So, logically, if he could play CL final 3 times in a row then he didn't need any help at all to win a scudetto, especially if we know that he didn't have a real opponent in Italy because Milan was living the worst days of Berlusconi era.

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

When he went to Inter, he didnt do that well now did he? (Can anyone recall the "Moggi told us we would win" banner Italian fans held up during one Azzuri training session?)

well, he really is good but he ain't no Merlin the magician.
I remember, and i believe many others do, how once while he was at Inter, he said smthg like : It's impossibile to work with this players because they aren't listening to what i'm saying to them.
That was so unlike Lippi - to attack his own players.
You can only imagine what were those Inter "stars" doing at trainings or during the matches.


Lippi is an extraordinary professionalist and he expects the same from his players. In Inter it was impossibile to find professionalism.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

In Inter it was impossibile to find professionalism.

why the past tense?!

Galliani on who can be Milan's coach :

"Galliani: 'Chi ha giocato nel Milan di Berlusconi è il favorito per allenare la squadra'

14:54 del 18 marzo

Nel prepartita di Milan-Atalanta, il vicepresidente rossonero Adriano Galliani ha parlato a Sky delle voci sul futuro di Carlo Ancelotti: "Chi ha giocato nel Milan di Berlusconi è assolutamente il favorito per allenare la squadra, poiché conosce bene tutti i meccanismi della società. L'allenatore ideale del Milan è uno che ha giocato in rossonero in questi ultimi 20 anni. Penso ad esempio al Milan del maestro Sacchi". Dunque, l'ipotesi Rijkaard non sembra affatto tramontata. Galliani è comunque fiducioso: "ll momento del Milan ritornerà. Ora sta vincendo l'Inter, complimenti a loro, ma noi non sentiamo alcun complesso di inferiorità". Chiusura dedicata alla Juve: "Senza i bianconeri il campionato di serie A è monco". Infine, sulle accuse di una difesa da svecchiare: "Non sono d'accordo - ha ribattuto Galliani -. Nesta, Kaladze, Oddo e Jankulovski sono giovani. Nel derby, ad esempio, noi avevamo un'età media inferiore rispetto all'Inter"."

Before the match against Atalanta, Galliani spoke about Ancelotti's future :
"The one who played for Berlusconi's Milan is the absolute favourite for managing the team ( Milan), because he's familiar with all the mechanisms in the society. The ideal Milan manager is the one who played for Milan in last 20 years, f.e in Sacchi's Milan"
Therefore, the Rijkaard hypothesis do not seem impossibile at all.
Galliani still believes " Milan's time will come again. At the moment Inter is winning, compliments to them, but we don't have inferiority complex"
About Juve " The championship without Juve is monco ( ?????? whatever this word means )
Finally, on the accusations of Milan's defense being too old : " I don't agree with this. Nesta, Jankulovski, Oddo and Kaladze are all young. For example, in the derby, our team was younger than theirs ( average age) "

Good points all Tony29....I admit that your arguments are sound, and I guess Lippi wouldnt be a bad addition after all..

Milan is delaying so much to fire Ancelotti

Lippi is a fantastic manager but I don´t like him because he brought Materazzi to World Cup and it´s like a crime

I wish that Hiddink were the new manager of Milan, I think he already done him problems with police

Ok it´s ironic to tell that Lippi maked a crime do brought Materazzi to World Cup and wish Hiddink in Milan but the italian player is one of the hideous players ever of all sports and Hiddink just maked a little mistake and didn´t tryed to ruined with anyone

Originally Posted by Samuca

Milan is delaying so much to fire Ancelotti

Lippi is a fantastic manager but I don´t like him because he brought Materazzi to World Cup and it´s like a crime

as much as we dislike matrix he is a big reason why Italy won the world cup.

Originally Posted by Samuca

Milan is delaying so much to fire Ancelotti

Lippi is a fantastic manager but I don´t like him because he brought Materazzi to World Cup and it´s like a crime

hahahaha!! as much as i hate materazzi, hes goals were very much needed in Italys win

Yes bringing Matrix to WC06 was totally nerve wrecking for us fans ... although Lippi never brought him as first choice player he only got in after Nesta's injury (which was something very difficult to foretell) ... But see how good of a coach that Lippi is that created a clean, neat and extraordinary defender and also goal scorer out of the beast and butcher he usually is... and so much has been Matrix influenced by Mr. Lippi that Donadonni doesn't think twice to place him as first choice player ... and also his performance with Inter has greatly improved after WC06 ...

SO PLS BERLU BRING LIPPI ON ... THE DUE TIME IS PAST ALREADY!!!

after tonight, has to be in doubt again... its mission impossible in Munich, and i dont think failure is good enough.

I really hope Ancelotti will leave Milan at the end of this season with or without CL Thropy. But no Lippi and don't bring more-catenaccio Coach, please.

Originally Posted by Siregar

I really hope Ancelotti will leave Milan at the end of this season with or without CL Thropy. But no Lippi and don't bring more-catenaccio Coach, please.

I'll recommend you read Tony's post 266 on the 18th page... enjoy! ...

Originally Posted by HeadFlick

I'll recommend you read Tony's post 266 on the 18th page... enjoy! ...

For me the first objective is CL.

2002-2003 Final - Won
2003-2004 Nightmare, we should go further actually (1/8 Final)
2004-2005 Final - Nightmare (the strangest match I've seen)
2005-2006 Semifinal - Lost against Barca
2006-2007 1/8 until now

Ancelotti's facts :

From 4 seasons Ancelotti could make two Finals (1 Won), one Semifinal and one 1/4 Final. Ancelotti : 50 percent final (50 percent of possibility of winning the finals), 25 percent semifinal, the rest 25 percent is 1/8 final)

So in general he had 50 percentage of reaching finals in which 50 percentage of winning them. He had also 75 percentage of reaching semifinal, 80 percentage of reaching quarter final.

Lippi's facts :

Lippi : 7 seasons in CL (I dont know if inter in CL in that time, so I am not counting Inter's seson) Lippi made : 4 Finals (1 Won), one 1/4 final and 2 last 16. Lippi : 57 percent finals (only 25 percent possiblity to win them), 14 percent 1/4 final and 28,5 percent 1/8 final.

Lippi had 57 percentage of reaching finals (but only 25 percentage of winning them, this really scares me ), only 57 percentage of reaching semifinals, and 71 percentage of reaching quarter finals.

Lippi is not better than Ancelotti (in Milan) in Champions League. I want Ancelotti more then Lippi if I look at the statistic above. Percentage of reaching final, Ancelotti only 7 percent lower but he absolutely dominated reaching semi and quarter final!

Lippi has also 'bad character' like Ancelotti. If Ancelotti had many important matches that he should win (the fact he lost : Milan-Depor, Milan-PSV, Milan-Liverpool), Lippi had 'no luck' in CL Finals!!

I didnt count Ancelotti in Juve because we are talking about Ancelotti's position in Milan (what he has done with Milan which for me really good with regard to the results in CL he has reached)

Originally Posted by Kaka1899

as much as we dislike matrix he is a big reason why Italy won the world cup.

I prefer to lose than win with no honour

I just don´t say that Italia didn´t had honour on the World Cup because Italia is a team and not only one man with a bad character but for sure that I didn´t liked to watch Materazzi with the rest of the team, mainly after what he did to Zidane be ejected, I saw the gold cup crying when Zidane had gone the game

But for sure Zidane weren´t smart to hit Materazzi in that way, when someone hit that kind people have to kill and not just hurt for some minutes

Zidane had 2 smart options, ignore Materazzi or broke the Italy's player legs