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Old 21-10-2007, 15:02   #46

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If I was in charge, the first thing I would do is sack Ancelotti and bring in Mourinho.
And watch the team play longball? No thanks. Prandelli is a better option.
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Old 21-10-2007, 15:59   #47

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And watch the team play longball? No thanks. Prandelli is a better option.
The style of football is secondary to victory. As long as we win (without breaking the rules, of course), I don't care how we do it. I would rather watch a solid team rake in 1-0 victories every weekend, than watch a team that occasionally plays brilliant football but is without a chance of challenging for the league title.
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Old 21-10-2007, 16:42   #48

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The style of football is secondary to victory.
Not for this club.
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Old 21-10-2007, 16:46   #49

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Well right now we aren't having neither the style nor the victories. I wouldn't sack Ancelotti at all and not even consider it in the near future, but I can see where devoted_dm is coming from. He is right - we need a major change. I aint saying its Carlo's fault at all but a change (just like bringing Ronaldo in Jan) is necessary. Team lacks creativity, motivation, pace, concentration, you name it! We can't just keep losing games and admit "we are a two face team" "we deserved to lose but hope to play better next game", wtf is that? even Parma and Livorno coaches admit their mistakes and look to correct them, we just blame it on ref's and luck!
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Old 21-10-2007, 16:52   #50

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Well right now we aren't having neither the style nor the victories. I wouldn't sack Ancelotti at all and not even consider it in the near future, but I can see where devoted_dm is coming from. He is right - we need a major change. I aint saying its Carlo's fault at all but a change (just like bringing Ronaldo in Jan) is necessary. Team lacks creativity, motivation, pace, concentration, you name it! We can't just keep losing games and admit "we are a two face team" "we deserved to lose but hope to play better next game", wtf is that? even Parma and Livorno coaches admit their mistakes and look to correct them, we just blame it on ref's and luck!
If we don't win when Ronaldo is back (against Sampdoria) Ancelotti is toast.
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Old 21-10-2007, 16:59   #51

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Well yes if ronaldo comes back, and yet they still cant pull off a win, means theres a big probelm. Lack of good training maybe?
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Old 21-10-2007, 19:57   #52

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Well yes if ronaldo comes back, and yet they still cant pull off a win, means theres a big probelm. Lack of good training maybe?
It means Ancelotti cannot motivate this team and we need a new coach. Hopefully not Tassotti because he doesn't seem to do anything. Costacurta would be a good choice - he wants to spend money and sign Quaresma!
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Old 22-10-2007, 03:58   #53

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Yaya toure is not a DM he's a deep play maker just like Pirlo.
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Actually there is because too many people are under the illusion Zambrotta is still one of the best full backs in the World. Oddo is better.
Silliest thing I have ever heard Oddo is better than Zambrotta........................................................................................... ...............no comment.
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We've had a bad start but trophies are handed out in May not October. If Ronaldo had been fit we would be top of Serie A.
Based on what ? you guys forgotten the fact that Ronaldo is not the same Ronaldo that was playing for Inter and Brazil in 2002. he is 5 years older, much overweigt and less motivated than what he was when he was in his early and mid twenties.

And saying that we have better players than Inter is funny, yes we have Kaka, pirlo and Nesta and they are the best in their Positions but Inter in common has better squad, and better bench its fact whether you want to beleive it or not, in term of names we are the best with Cafu, Maldini, Nesta, Kaladze, Sergeniho, Pirlo,Ambro, Gattuso, Ronaldo, Pippo, Gila, Seedorf,Kaka, Dida and so on but they are way too old (most of them ) for producing the same fantastic football they used to do.

'' Big names doesnot neccesarly bring succses'' yes fully agree , but at the same time its not a reason for not signing big names because these big names do bring succses most of the time.
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Old 22-10-2007, 08:03   #54

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Yaya toure is not a DM he's a deep play maker just like Pirlo.
Yaya is a DM or right sided midfielder.
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Silliest thing I have ever heard Oddo is better than Zambrotta........................................................................................... ...............no comment.
How much of Zambrotta did you watch last season? You're going by reputation not on performances.
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Old 22-10-2007, 08:15   #55

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Oddo was fantastic last season, better than Zambro.
But havnig Zambro & Oddo on our wide positions would be great 4 next season. However we still need decent keepers, better def/wide/att mid, and prolific strikers.
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Old 22-10-2007, 08:36   #56

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How much of Zambrotta did you watch last season? You're going by reputation not on performances.
Actually, i think it's you who's making a mistake here. Because you're going by one single season, or more precisely, half a season.

Oddo was no one until he was 29 yo. Then he had a solid season with Lazio, a mega half season with Lazio last year and an average half season with Milan. In case you've forgotten, let me remind you of Mrki's regular quote in February, March and April "What happened to the Oddo from Lazio ? " .
Then a good match against ManUtd and that was it.
Now watch him this year. Far from brilliant in defense, his crosses are funny, didn't make a single assist etc.

Zambrotta, unlike Oddo, actually played at the World Cup, and he made it to the team of the WC. He didn't get much rest last summer. Then he was preoccupied with Calciopoli and he knew nothing about his future. From his statements we can see that he was very disappointed and sad with the lost scudetti.
If we believe the reports, he wanted to stay in Italy, not go to Spain. But he accepted it and he CHANGED LEAGUES, playing style, game phylosophy etc.
Like most of the Italians who participated at the WC (Cannavaro, Grosso, Nesta,Camoranesi, Gilardino, Pirlo) fatigue took a lot from his power. Changing leagues was also highly important.
He was pretty bad until March and then he was again very good. If you watched Barca last year you'll know that Zambro was among their best players at the end of La Liga.

This year he was a beast. Like i said few days ago, he played better than he did at Juve. Then the injury happened.

Oddo is limited at the right side.
Zambrotta plays on both sides of the pitch, equally good.
Zambro has better crosses and he's much better defender than Oddo. He was and he still is.
One bad season won't change that.
Afterall, wasn't Gila better than Ibra in 2005/06 ? Does it mean that he is now a better player than Ibra ?

Zambrotta was and still is a much better and complete player than Oddo !
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Old 22-10-2007, 09:12   #57

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I would fire Ancellotti and then sign him again and then fire him again just to be sure.

After that I would bring Mourinho, Riquelme and Drogda.
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Old 22-10-2007, 09:39   #58

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I would fire Ancellotti and then sign him again and then fire him again just to be sure.
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Old 22-10-2007, 10:56   #59

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It's silly to say Oddo isn't that good. He runs like a madman all day down that right flank and his crosses are excellent. He contributes more to our offense that Gattuso does on that right flank, and Gattuso is our midfielder! Also, I would take Jankulovski over Zambrotta anyday. The only essential problem with this Milan squad is that without Kaka, winning seems to be too hard. Other than Seedorf, we have no offensive minded midfielder who has the strength to go up their and create magic for our strikers. Sure, Pirlo is an wizard in dead ball situations and is a great passer who has perfect timing. Still, he can't' constantly create opportunities. Seriously, how can you have Ambrosini and Gattuso on the same starting lineup! On top of that, management said "Um, how can we get players who have no sense of creativity and are nothing more that glorified defenders?" Solution:Emerson. It's ridiculous the kind of players we are constantly accumulating in our midfield. Oh, and lets not forget Gattusos' double, Brocchi. It's time we got creative midfielders would compliment Kaka and Seedorf. We also need to bring in one of our goalkeepers on loan and get a CB who can actually defend.
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Old 23-10-2007, 02:58   #60

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Noone said that Oddo is bad or even not that good , we just said that he has some deffecsive problems in positioning, and in producing godd crosses.

As for Janku being better than Zambrotta, again based on what age or speed or cosses or shooting or positioning or experiance or what?
Janku is a good player and credit for him as he plays in a position that he dislike or lets say not his natural one but he is not better than Zambrotta by any means, as Zambrotta can cover the 2 sides as well as DM or RM other than that I agree with you when you say that we lack of attacking minded players and of course a lethal stricker like Sheva and we should not forget a coach that doesnot play with Ambro and Gattuso or Gattuso and Emerson on the same Pitch while he has Gorcuff on the bench.
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