UCL QF 2nd Leg: Bayern Munich-AC Milan

Originally Posted by tardissun

True, but Dida's time is in the past. He's made too many costly mistakes this year, and wasn't all that great last year either. Dida did his thing and did it well, but it's time to move forward.

I'm not about to keep the guy till he's 40+ just because he did a good job for a few years ago. I'm more loyal to Milan as a team, than to any one player. I wouldn't mind keeping Dida as a backup for example, but he wouldn't like that of course.

Finally somebody on this forum with a brain If you change your sentence to read "Dida was never good at all" you are going to be a good soccer pundit like me. I am sure tardissun is a handsome romantic boy like me.
If Ancelotti wants I can help him with his Dida problem......my gas chamber has plenty of room

Originally Posted by BMWTaylor

The great and beautiful Kalac has never cost us a trophy unlike that ugly useless giant called Dida, which is why he's Milans greatest goalie ever (after Bobby Moore), and it's as simple as that

I think anyone can fairly criticise a player without calling him a "USELESS GIANT". Dont you think?

Kui, BMW was just being sarcastic ... mzk-style
BMW actually adores Dida and then some

Originally Posted by drucurl

I am sure tardissun is a handsome romantic boy like me

Originally Posted by tardissun

True, but Dida's time is in the past. He's made too many costly mistakes this year, and wasn't all that great last year either. Dida did his thing and did it well, but it's time to move forward.

I'm not about to keep the guy till he's 40+ just because he did a good job for a few years ago. I'm more loyal to Milan as a team, than to any one player. I wouldn't mind keeping Dida as a backup for example, but he wouldn't like that of course.

Now here some one with a BRAIN in his/her head unlike .........................
100/100 for ur post. Keep it up. U really r a true AC Milan fan

Originally Posted by BMWTaylor

I had to make one little correction. Hope you don't mind, Zeekay.

NO, not at all. But u must have added this as well
Forza Juventus , Forza AS Roma and Forza Lazio Bcoz Italian r the best and I am the best pundit here so the BEST likes the BEST and its as simple as that

Originally Posted by mzk57

Now here some one with a BRAIN in his/her head unlike .........................

You?

Originally Posted by BMWTaylor

You?

No , because we both have same sort of thinking abt the gk who knows nothing abt goal-keeping But I guess a brain is needed to understand that point

Originally Posted by drucurl

I think that all black players should be removed from our team

Why???? Man u r a racist We should only remove coward players

Seedorf and Dida are things of no value except to be sold or traded

No 4 Seedorf, But a BIG YES for that

Dida is the reason why we didn't win the scudetto this year

True

We should shackle Dida in chains and use him as our team waterboy and Kalac's bootcleaner

If possible worse than that

I think Costacurta because of his youth and hence faster reaction times would make a far better Keeper than that retarded giant

I BET Costacurta will perform better behind Paolo and Nesta, or should I say he will perform with a heart and passion 4 Milan not for $. He has always been a brave worrior

Dida will cost us 1 more trophy single handedly

Which is not unusual

Forza Inter Milan

U like them 2 ??

Mzk should be given a Blue Peters badge for the length of time he has stayed at MilanMania without getting banned, what an achievement!

Originally Posted by Egoistka

Away wins are not so uncommon...it all just depends on which team you are playing. Bayern is very strong at home..if we didnt manage to win against them at home, then in Munich we ll have to play twice better (or get lucky) to win the game, or get a satisfying us draw.

you better go and check the record, bayern munich has a spell of going more than 3 years unbeaten at home in UCL but we went there and kick their arse and break that spell. Even in arena, they have won all their games there, not even a single draw before we went and got ourselves a draw last year. I can show you many more of such records broken by AC Milan. We are a team that break records so why are we so scared now? When did AC Milan become a team of cowards? You guys think we can't even score a goal, heck we have the UCL top scorer on our team and he is playing on wednesday so what the heck!

I am absolutely confident we would go thru and win the UCL. The last time we won the UCL, we were in the same situation in Serie A, fighting for a 4th place.

Welcome back hwmook, long time no see

I take it Van Bommel will be playing, Mr Dirty himself That'll make their midfield even more physical!

We only need two things to win this match (1) Positive thinking and (2) everyone to put in 100% effort.

Hi guys !

Originally Posted by hwmook

you better go and check the record, bayern munich has a spell of going more than 3 years unbeaten at home in UCL but we went there and kick their arse and break that spell. Even in arena, they have won all their games there, not even a single draw before we went and got ourselves a draw last year. I can show you many more of such records broken by AC Milan. We are a team that break records so why are we so scared now?

Since you put it that way, maybe the statistics i prepared will prove to be useless at the end. Milan is really a record breaker and now they have a chance to brake another unpleasant tradition.

Ok, this is what i have :

So far in Champions League, in the knock out stages, the 1st leg ended in a draw 37 times.
Only in 11 occasions the team that drew the first leg at home ( like Milan did now) managed to qualify for the next stage.
In percentage, it's 29.7 % .

18 of these 37 matches ended 0:0
14 matches ended 1:1
4 matches ended 2:2 ( Milan-Bayern was the fifth)
1 match ended 3:3

Like i said, only 11 times,the hosts from the first leg managed to overcome the handicap and qualify for next stages.
On 6 of these 11 matches , the result after the first leg was 0:0 ( meaning : the guests didn't make some big advantage besides getting a draw because they didn't score an away goal)
On 5 of those matches the result after the first leg was 1:1

When the first leg ended 2:2 or 3:3 , the hosts from the first leg didn't qualify.
These are the 4 matches that ended 2:2

2001/02 - Manchester Utd-Levercusen 2:2- 1:1 ( Levercusen qulifies)
2005/06 - Ajax-Inter 2:2-0:1 ( Inter qualifies)
2005/06 - Rangers-Villareal 2:2-1:1 ( Villareal qualifies)
2006/07 - Inter-Valencia 2:2-0:0 ( Valencia qualifies)

As you can see, Milan will have to "beat" the tradition here and become the first team ever that managed to qualify besides drawing 2:2 the first leg at home.


Past results of Milan and Bayern when the 1st leg ended with a draw

Milan
As guests in the 1st leg :
Celtic-Milan 0:0 -0:1
Lyon-Milan 0:0-1:3
Bayern-Milan 1:1-1:4
Ajax-Milan 0:0-2:3
Sparta-Milan 0:0-1:4
Benfika-Milan 0:0-0:2

As a guest in the first leg Milan has 100% record . They qualified for the next stage whenever they drew the first leg away from home

As home team in the first leg:
Milan-Inter 0:0-1:1

Again 100% record.

So, whenever Milan drew the first leg, they ended up as winners after the 2nd leg. It happened 7 times so far in the CL ( Although, have in mind on 6 of these 7 matches Milan were visitors in the first leg, which isn't the case now)

Bayern
As guests in the first leg:
Dinamo Kiev-Bayern 3:3-1:3
Porto-Bayern 1:1 - 1:2

On both occassions when they drew the first match as visitors ( like they did now with Milan), they passed the knock-out stage

As hosts in the first leg:
Bayern-Milan 1:1-1:4
Bayern-Goteborg 0:0-2:2
Bayern-Ajax 0:0-2:5
Bayern-Dortmund 0:0-0:1
Bayern-Real 1:1-0:1

Only 1/5 as home side in the first leg


Sorry for the long post, but i found these statistics very interesting to talk about so i decided to share them with You!

Cheers

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Hi guys !



Since you put it that way, maybe the statistics i prepared will prove to be useless at the end. Milan is really a record breaker and now they have a chance to brake another unpleasant tradition.

Ok, this is what i have :

So far in Champions League, in the knock out stages, the 1st leg ended in a draw 37 times.
Only in 11 occasions the team that drew the first leg at home ( like Milan did now) managed to qualify for the next stage.
In percentage, it's 29.7 % .

18 of these 37 matches ended 0:0
14 matches ended 1:1
4 matches ended 2:2 ( Milan-Bayern was the fifth)
1 match ended 3:3

Like i said, only 11 times,the hosts from the first leg managed to overcome the handicap and qualify for next stages.
On 6 of these 11 matches , the result after the first leg was 0:0 ( meaning : the guests didn't make some big advantage besides getting a draw because they didn't score an away goal)
On 5 of those matches the result after the first leg was 1:1

When the first leg ended 2:2 or 3:3 , the hosts from the first leg didn't qualify.
These are the 4 matches that ended 2:2

2001/02 - Manchester Utd-Levercusen 2:2- 1:1 ( Levercusen qulifies)
2005/06 - Ajax-Inter 2:2-0:1 ( Inter qualifies)
2005/06 - Rangers-Villareal 2:2-1:1 ( Villareal qualifies)
2006/07 - Inter-Valencia 2:2-0:0 ( Valencia qualifies)

As you can see, Milan will have to "beat" the tradition here and become the first team ever that managed to qualify besides drawing 2:2 the first leg at home.


Past results of Milan and Bayern when the 1st leg ended with a draw

Milan
As guests in the 1st leg :
Celtic-Milan 0:0 -0:1
Lyon-Milan 0:0-1:3
Bayern-Milan 1:1-1:4
Ajax-Milan 0:0-2:3
Sparta-Milan 0:0-1:4
Benfika-Milan 0:0-0:2

As a guest in the first leg Milan has 100% record . They qualified for the next stage whenever they drew the first leg away from home

As home team in the first leg:
Milan-Inter 0:0-1:1

Again 100% record.

So, whenever Milan drew the first leg, they ended up as winners after the 2nd leg. It happened 7 times so far in the CL ( Although, have in mind on 6 of these 7 matches Milan were visitors in the first leg, which isn't the case now)

Bayern
As guests in the first leg:
Dinamo Kiev-Bayern 3:3-1:3
Porto-Bayern 1:1 - 1:2

On both occassions when they drew the first match as visitors ( like they did now with Milan), they passed the knock-out stage

As hosts in the first leg:
Bayern-Milan 1:1-1:4
Bayern-Goteborg 0:0-2:2
Bayern-Ajax 0:0-2:5
Bayern-Dortmund 0:0-0:1
Bayern-Real 1:1-0:1

Only 1/5 as home side in the first leg


Sorry for the long post, but i found these statistics very interesting to talk about so i decided to share them with You!

Cheers

Interesting read but like i said, it won't apply to Milan cos we are one crazy team. The fact that Milan play with the back to the wall only can mean total concentration from the team which is what Milan really need. Like it or not, when Milan decide to play, no team in the world stand a chance. In the past few seasons, the reason why we went out was the lack of concentration except maybe the barca game when the bloody ref wrongly disallow a goal. And Milan play well in the first leg and also in the Empoli game where the opponents didn't even have any clear chances. Milan is also a team which travel well, i still remember in the 2004-2005 season Milan did better away from home than at home, i was telling my friend i get cold feets if Milan is playing at home.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

Welcome back hwmook, long time no see

I take it Van Bommel will be playing, Mr Dirty himself That'll make their midfield even more physical!

We only need two things to win this match (1) Positive thinking and (2) everyone to put in 100% effort.

Nice to be back, i have been really busy for the past few months but after the bayern game, i got to come in here and see how depressed and pessimistic people are.

Don't worry about Van Bommel, Rino look more likely to take out his legs than he does to us. I am so happy to see Rino back to his passionate self. And Pirlo look like the same guy during the world cup when he was finally recognised as the one of the best player in the world. We just need a moment of magic from kaka. Once we score that 1 goal, bayern is dead.