South American Clubs

Although south americans are famous for their love for football but i dont know so much of what is goin on overthere. I only know few big clubs such as River Plates, Bocca Juniors and San Paolo. Can anyone update me on this please? do they play in any competitions that are equivalent to the CL or UEFA cup

thanks

Originally posted by kenny_shev
Although south americans are famous for their love for football but i dont know so much of what is goin on overthere. I only know few big clubs such as River Plates, Bocca Juniors and San Paolo. Can anyone update me on this please? do they play in any competitions that are equivalent to the CL or UEFA cup

thanks

well I know that south american tuornament Copa Libertadores are the same as CL in Europe
I'd like to add my favorite teams in this region :
Santos, Vasco da Gama, Boca Juniors, Penarol etc.
tere are also many more famous teams, however I do not have enough time to write them here.
Maybe later ..............

Many of you know the Copa Libertadores tournament but, there is another cup that there is played in South America, LA COPA SUDAMERICANA, is like UEFA cup for Europe but here, the tournament is played after the copa libertadores, because of this you can see teams like Boca and Santos playing in this cup too.
At this time the tournament is in semi-finals, the results so far are:

1/4 Finals:
River Plate (Argentina) - Asunción (Paraguay) (2-1 aggregate)
Atletico Nacional (colombia) - Boca (Arg.) (4-2) aggregate)
Cienciano (Perú) - Santos (Brazil) (3-2) aggregate)
Sao Paulo (Brazil) - The Strongest (Bolivia) (7-2 aggregate)

Semi final will be:
River - Sao Paulo and
Cienciano - Atletico Nacional

The surprise is Cienciano because they eliminated Santos and is a team that is playing really well, about Boca, they played against Atletico Nacional with the bench because they are reserving their players for the Intercontinental cup and the Argentina's league, even Bianchi didn't travel to Colombia for the second match of the series.

About the national leagues, here is the situation in Argentina and Brazil:

In Argentina after 14 match days in the "torneo apertura" the standings are:

1. Boca Juniors............................31
2. San Lorenzo ..........................27
3. Banfield..................................25
4. Rosario Central .....................25
5. Newell's Old Boys..................24
6. Quilmes.................................24
7. Arsenal de Sarandí................20
8. Racing Club............................19
9. River Plate .............................19
10. Vélez Sarsfield......................19
11. Chacarita Juniors..................18
12. Colón de Santa Fe................18
13. Estudiantes La Plata.............16
14. Talleres de Córdoba..............16
15. Lanús ...................................15
16. Independiente .....................14
17. Atletico Rafaela.....................14
18. Gimnasia La Plata.................11
19. Olimpo de Bahía Blanca..........9
20. Nueva Chicago.......................9


In Brazil after 42 match days the "Brasilerao" have the next standings:
1 Cruzeiro............. 88
2 Santos ...............82
3 São Paulo ..........71
4 Coritiba..............68
5 Internacional ....68
6 São Caetano ....68
7 Atlético-MG.........63
8 Goiás.................62
9 Paraná .............61
10 Flamengo........59
11 Guarani...........58
12 Criciúma .........57
13 Figueirense ....56
14 Corinthians ....55
15 Atlético-PR......53
16 Vitória ...........53
17 Vasco ............49
18 Juventude .....47
19 Fluminense ...46
20 Paysandu .....45
21 Fortaleza .....45
22 Ponte Preta..45
23 Bahia ..........43
24 Grêmio ........40

From Bolivian soccer all you need to know is that Bolivar is the best team. They are the team with more League titles and participations in the Copa Libertadores (even though we never made it past the quarter finals). In the last Copa Sudamericana we reached the semifinals where we lost to San Lorenzo of Argentina.

Other teams from Bolivian First division are:

San Jose
The Strongest
Oriente Petrolero
Blooming
Real Potosi
Wilstermann
Aurora
Iberoamericana
Independiente Petrolero (relegated for next season)
Guabira
.....and some more


!!ARRIBA BOLIVAR CARAJO!!

Originally posted by cab
About the national leagues, here is the situation in Argentina and Brazil:

In Argentina after 14 match days in the "torneo apertura" the standings are:

1. Boca Juniors............................31
2. San Lorenzo ..........................27
3. Banfield..................................25
4. Rosario Central .....................25
5. Newell's Old Boys..................24
6. Quilmes.................................24
7. Arsenal de Sarandí................20
8. Racing Club............................19
9. River Plate .............................19
10. Vélez Sarsfield......................19
11. Chacarita Juniors..................18
12. Colón de Santa Fe................18
13. Estudiantes La Plata.............16
14. Talleres de Córdoba..............16
15. Lanús ...................................15
16. Independiente .....................14
17. Atletico Rafaela.....................14
18. Gimnasia La Plata.................11
19. Olimpo de Bahía Blanca..........9
20. Nueva Chicago.......................9


In Brazil after 42 match days the "Brasilerao" have the next standings:
1 Cruzeiro............. 88
2 Santos ...............82
3 São Paulo ..........71
4 Coritiba..............68
5 Internacional ....68
6 São Caetano ....68
7 Atlético-MG.........63
8 Goiás.................62
9 Paraná .............61
10 Flamengo........59
11 Guarani...........58
12 Criciúma .........57
13 Figueirense ....56
14 Corinthians ....55
15 Atlético-PR......53
16 Vitória ...........53
17 Vasco ............49
18 Juventude .....47
19 Fluminense ...46
20 Paysandu .....45
21 Fortaleza .....45
22 Ponte Preta..45
23 Bahia ..........43
24 Grêmio ........40

ok thanx very much
and can u give an advice
where can I find official websites of "torneo apertura" and "Brasilerao" as u called them.
I'd be very thankful.

For Argentina:
You can go to the official page of AFA(Argentina's Federation of Football): http://www.afa.org.ar/ but it's crap , some links doesn't work and it's very slow so, I recomend the site:
http://www.uolsinectis.com.ar/uolfut...sion/index.htm
it's better, but it is in Spanish, you will have to learn "algunas palabras" my friend

For Brazil the website of the federation is better:
http://cbfnews.uol.com.br/
but it is in Brazilian

you could try in Spanish to in:
http://www.uolsinectis.com.ar/uolfut...posiciones.htm

Originally posted by cab
For Brazil the website of the federation is better:
http://cbfnews.uol.com.br/
but it is in Brazilian

you could try in Spanish to in:
http://www.uolsinectis.com.ar/uolfut...posiciones.htm

hrrrrrrrr
I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish

and I shall
I promise you
one day we meet shall in San Siro and I'll speak "algunas palabras"
as you call it
I bet

may be i should too..heard that south american chicks are really hot.. is it true? :P

spanish i meant...i should learn it

Originally posted by kenny_shev
may be i should too..heard that south american chicks are really hot.. is it true? :P

yeah, man you're right , I have one. I'm seriuos, she's from

Mexico.

How I wish to show you her but I don't have a digital camera or

scanner.

here is she

MAMA MIA!

Originally Posted by rae

hrrrrrrrr
I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish I should learn Spanish

and I shall
I promise you
one day we meet shall in San Siro and I'll speak "algunas palabras"
as you call it
I bet

now I can proudly verify my word - I have done it puedo comprender algunas palabras en espanol y eso no es todo

PS: oooooooh that girl