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Old 31-10-2004, 16:56   #1

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strikers problem

i read in many threads from several posters we are fine with the strikers we have now..i think this is turning into a sort of dogma:

_inzaghi is injured since one year and an half, and probably he's going to get surgery again, which would mean several months of stop

_crespo doesn not convince: a striker must SCORE, and in three months how he hasn't been able to find a decent form is beyond me.

_tomasson is very useful but

where do you think we'll go with 2 choices? do you think we can play 60 with shevchenko and tomasson? what we'll do if sheva stops scoring? can we rely, can ac milan society and club rely just on one striker just because being shy on the market is turning to be a stupid dogma? can't you see we struggle to score? wouldn't be better if sheva is partnershipped by another scorer?
let sheva out, who's scoring among the strikers? tomasson has scored one, and pippo one with celtic...just tell you zalayeta has scored 4 and juve without having world class has 4 strikers who have scored all 4 goals..

we must strnghten the attack, for this team sake! Or we risk a lot, just to be stubbornly shy on the market
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Old 31-10-2004, 17:43   #2

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i read in many threads from several posters we are fine with the strikers we have now..i think this is turning into a sort of dogma:

_inzaghi is injured since one year and an half, and probably he's going to get surgery again, which would mean several months of stop

_crespo doesn not convince: a striker must SCORE, and in three months how he hasn't been able to find a decent form is beyond me.

_tomasson is very useful but

where do you think we'll go with 2 choices? do you think we can play 60 with shevchenko and tomasson? what we'll do if sheva stops scoring? can we rely, can ac milan society and club rely just on one striker just because being shy on the market is turning to be a stupid dogma? can't you see we struggle to score? wouldn't be better if sheva is partnershipped by another scorer?
let sheva out, who's scoring among the strikers? tomasson has scored one, and pippo one with celtic...just tell you zalayeta has scored 4 and juve without having world class has 4 strikers who have scored all 4 goals..

we must strnghten the attack, for this team sake! Or we risk a lot, just to be stubbornly shy on the market
We have been risking for strikers and probably defenders for a long time already. And probably according to Bman's theory our midfield is always at risk.

At the end, we win.

I share with your points, but give them sometimes. It's only 3 months Crespo has arrived. IF there is one reason why a striker should be bought, it can only be because of Inzaghi injury.
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Old 31-10-2004, 18:39   #3

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I also wouldn't count out Crespo yet, he has ont played much and a little bit of lcuk could change things and give him the needed confidence.

But the Inzaghi situation is troubling and it is slowly turning into another "Van Basten" saga. He have been on and off often now and almost only off. IF we are thining January then Tevez is surerly the name, but doubt Galliani want to splash out that much.

Then the name of a very interesting option came to my mind. Morientes. He is proven, he is unsettled and unwanted by his club and would therefore come cheap. We have good relations with Real and he can be bought. Only problem is that he is cuptied.
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Old 01-11-2004, 01:27   #4

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agree with kris, Crespo didn't show us what he is capable of doing just yet....hopefully he won't take much time to do it though ....JDT is always a reliable sub and Pippo.....damn his injuries, nothing compares to Sheva + SuperPippo

So right now the situation doesn't look too good, but I believe Crespo will start scoring soon (he is already playing ok, but of course a striker needs to score, not to play good ).....until Pippo comes back (he must!), Sheva + Crespo with JDT as super sub will do. Once Pippo is back is time for King Sheva + SuperPippo

IF Pippo requires another surgery (which would mean another 3-4 months out), AND Crespo doesn't convince, I'm sure Milan will seriously consider buying a new striker in January...many names come to my mind, but better wait and see, I prefer to think Crespo can deliver, and especially that Pippo will be back at his best soon
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Old 01-11-2004, 02:27   #5

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IF Pippo requires another surgery (which would mean another 3-4 months out), AND Crespo doesn't convince, I'm sure Milan will seriously consider buying a new striker in January...many names come to my mind, but better wait and see, I prefer to think Crespo can deliver, and especially that Pippo will be back at his best soon
Damn.., pippo out for 3-4 months?
Means, he probably back in february.
I wanna ask ur candidate in january transfer window for new striker, who's yours, Goirre??
For me, the guy is dinho.
And if the guy isnt dinho (cause it's quite impossible), i'd rather choose none.
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Old 01-11-2004, 07:18   #6

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Guys, i agree with you that we need to wait time, but the time is not that long, cause serie a is toughest than ever and in CL a wrong match can send you home..now the situation is not dramatic, but i'm used to have a bit of foresight for the matches to come, and i wonder what will happen if sheva takes a cold if not worse.

i just make you think about this: we had targeted George Weah still in early 90 but we waited Van Basten injuries to recover without considering to sign Weah..In that case it was rightful to wait a legend like Van Basten, personally in my top three players ever, but why not signing Weah as well.. If we signed him, in Wien with Simone we would have won another CL..remember we played that final without Savicevic and all the competition with a first striker.. being too shy can cost a lot, much more than the risks about a dressing room with a striker more ..consider we haven't 30 players like Inter and with just 24/25 players, facing such injury like Inzaghi's is not a bad idea... damn, i'm sick of these emergencies upfront: we must go with a quality young striker even for the future, we cannot struggle to score and be scared if Sheva takes a cold or something.
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Old 01-11-2004, 09:21   #7

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The calibre of the strikers is relative to the chances that the TEAM creates and the quality & diversity of the build-up play.

Milan is wastefull & imprecise, especially compared to Juventus. The end result is that someone like Zalayeta can be a protagonist because of Juve's system.

With so many matches throughout a season, it is the 'system' employed by a team that wins at the end, feeding the talent on the park.

Milan needs to unblock itself and the goals will come..........


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Old 01-11-2004, 10:12   #8

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If Inzaghi is still in this position come the end of the season then there is no doubt that money must be spent on someone who can be a full time first team striker. However we bought Crespo for covering injuries so I don't see why we need all 4 fit players fit. I also think Crespo could yet come good, if he dosn't then we simply have to rely on Tomasson who hasn't exactly let us down when we've done so in the past, and send Crespo back to Chelsea.

The January market is maybe worth thinking about, but not Tevez or anyone like that, he will be the player to go for (or someone equivalent like Torres or Gilardino) over summer if we decided Inzaghi cannot play often anymore and we're sending Crespo back. January money, if any is spent, would be better used getting a tried and tested older italian player with a good record, or maybe one of Lecce's promising forwards (though probably not Bojinov, I think his value is already very high) just someone who you know will get about 10 or so goals in the last half of the season.
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If Inzaghi doesnt recover by the end of the season his replacement could be Crespo. If Crespo doesnt perform at all this season then come summer they could both be repaced Fernando Torres would surely arrive in such a situation and I personally would be happy to see milan bring back Chevanton to the Seria A.
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Old 01-11-2004, 11:33   #10

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i think we should sign bojinov, we lack speed upfront and we also lack presice shooting from outside the box (other than kaka), bojinov is all that... i think he is great, if crespo still doesnt score ENOUGH come january, we might consider benching him or sending him back... another option could be starting JDT, hes a great player and extremly underrated, he never failed us and his understanding with sheva is already guarenteed to be good. i dont see no reason why not to start him, he may not be the most exciting player around but he gets the job done no matter what. pippo is my last choice, u already know that im not very fond of him.
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Old 01-11-2004, 14:17   #11

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I pointed out that the problem is not our current strikers quality but rather the fact just tomasson and sheva can guarantee top performances..crespo comes from 2 disappointing seasons, due to injuries and bad form, so he is still a huge question mark if you ask me, i wouldn't be so confident about him, i like the guy and know what he has done, but it was 2 years ago at least, so with an inzaghi still and endlessly injured and crespo who has to regain all his old shape i'm not so relaxed about the team:

I want to point out that it's a long time i say this, since last year, when we had inzaghi injured all the season and borriello as a choice, which was unbelievable for a team who can play CL semifinals or finals...just two regulars and an unmature youngster..are we joking? we must thank the Luck Tomasson and Sheva had extraordinary seasons without injuries, but how long must we provocate the Faith?

This year is slightly better because we have Crespo instead of Borriello, but at the end of the day, if Crespo gets often injured and takes 2 months to regain the form, Borriello was a better choice then, or at least cheaper though!
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Old 01-11-2004, 15:43   #12

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give crepso time n let him start in all the matched n he will start scorin again. i dun think there is a point in startin with tomasson he will proly alwais b a replacement n he iz awesome at that
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Old 01-11-2004, 18:19   #13

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I agree we should wait. However, if the need for a striker becomes desperate then we should get a short term solution during the transfer window and go for the stars (imo Tevez or adriano) later
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adriano is impossible i think, moratti just loves him and hes becoming inter himself!

i made a poll with a list of 6 strikers (bojinov, ronaldo, torres, tevez, cassano, gilardino) but come to think of it maybe i could add miccoli to the list, he was a good sub for juve and i was wondering why did they let him go?
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I agree we should wait. However, if the need for a striker becomes desperate then we should get a short term solution during the transfer window and go for the stars (imo Tevez or adriano) later
Problem is, can we afford to have another short term solution? Crespo is also one you know...
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