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Old 25-05-2005, 16:46   #1

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New system?

Its about time Milan ditched this system and played a 3412.

We need Gatusso in the centre because he cant pass for sh!t and we definately need an option for the left because seedorf's untimely poor form has cost us. Im not saying seedorf should go, but we need performances!
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Old 25-05-2005, 18:06   #2

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rino is great but he lacks in skill in many areas. i am almost afraid when he gets the ball because he can lose it so easily. ambrosini should be given more time on the pitch instead of Rino because he has better ball handling skills, and can score. rino didn't really play today against liverpool.
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Old 27-05-2005, 11:00   #3

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Its about time Milan ditched this system and played a 3412.

We need Gatusso in the centre because he cant pass for sh!t and we definately need an option for the left because seedorf's untimely poor form has cost us. Im not saying seedorf should go, but we need performances!
you really want to revert to a 3 man defence?!

thats SUICIDAL!!
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Old 27-05-2005, 11:15   #4

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with vogel we have a theoretical sub for one of seedorf or pirlo..............
the system could work
btw, its not like cafu REALLY defends..............
so it wouldnt change much rly...
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Old 27-05-2005, 11:20   #5

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Not necessarily suicidal - especially if you have the right players for it. I have also hoped that Carlo would use a 3-man defence vs teams like Brescia at the San Siro when we have to play a whole team packed in defence. Anyway, with Cafu as a right back we do tend to play unofficially a 3-man defence vs teams that only come to defend at the SS.
This being said, I would still want 4 at the back in the "bigger" games.
That's one thing I have always liked about Dutch teams, especially Ajax, - they can change their system of playing so fluently during games and still look as if they have been playing with one and the same system for decades.
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Old 27-05-2005, 17:23   #6

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you really want to revert to a 3 man defence?!

thats SUICIDAL!!
To me a 3 man defence doesnt pose a problem, as everyone rightly says our team tends to turn into a man defence anyway. What worries me is the fact that we dont have cover in front of the defence.
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Old 28-05-2005, 05:19   #7

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Personally I don't think we have the pace in the team (especially in midfield) for a 3 man defence to work.
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Old 28-05-2005, 19:00   #8

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do u not remember the days when milan did use a 3 man defence?

i remember that being some of the worst football i ever saw played.

and to top it off ayala left us and then suddenly became "worldclass"!!

a 3 man defence for me is never safe. a flat back four is as obviously there are more people back defending.

he needs to organise the midfield as its the midfield which is supposed to be providing a shield for the defence.

i feel its far too easy for strikers to get into us if we play a 3 man defence.

anybody with the slightest bit of pace, ball played in down the channels and your screwed.

remember thierry henry? when they played inter milan a while back i was watching it with my friend (an inter supporter).
the first thing i said to him was "i can`t believe your going to play a 3 man defence against henry!!" it was so obvious what arsenal would do..its practically written in every coaching manual... if they play a 3 man defence stretch the pitch (left and right) and knocjk the ball into the channels....
henry went on to have an awesome game... and how many times can you say that about henry in the Champions League...

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Old 29-05-2005, 07:42   #9

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do u not remember the days when milan did use a 3 man defence?

i remember that being some of the worst football i ever saw played.

and to top it off ayala left us and then suddenly became "worldclass"!!

a 3 man defence for me is never safe. a flat back four is as obviously there are more people back defending.

he needs to organise the midfield as its the midfield which is supposed to be providing a shield for the defence.

i feel its far too easy for strikers to get into us if we play a 3 man defence.

anybody with the slightest bit of pace, ball played in down the channels and your screwed.

remember thierry henry? when they played inter milan a while back i was watching it with my friend (an inter supporter).
the first thing i said to him was "i can`t believe your going to play a 3 man defence against henry!!" it was so obvious what arsenal would do..its practically written in every coaching manual... if they play a 3 man defence stretch the pitch (left and right) and knocjk the ball into the channels....
henry went on to have an awesome game... and how many times can you say that about henry in the Champions League...

ayala was world class even before he joined us.....and a 3 man defense can work....just need understanding between the central midfielder and the back line...but don't think we will play like this
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Old 29-05-2005, 08:59   #10

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berlu would go mental and bar it, simple as that.

We have to play 4 at the back and 2 upfront, it's a cerdit to ancelotti he's still been able to come up with something original in the midfield, with these restrictions.
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berlu would go mental and bar it, simple as that.

We have to play 4 at the back and 2 upfront, it's a cerdit to ancelotti he's still been able to come up with something original in the midfield, with these restrictions.
Berlusconi has 'given the OK' for 3-4-1-2 apparently... I hope Carletto uses it.
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Old 04-06-2005, 20:39   #12

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I agree 100% about a 3 man defence only with Pirlo in front then a traditional four man midfield with Jankulovski on the left, Figo/Cassetti on the right and Gattuso in the centre then Kaka' behind Shevchenko and Gilardino. With genuine wingers on the flanks we wouldn't be venerable in those positions.
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Berlusconi has 'given the OK' for 3-4-1-2 apparently... I hope Carletto uses it.
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Old 05-06-2005, 06:37   #14

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I have also hoped that Carlo would use a 3-man defence vs teams like Brescia at the San Siro when we have to play a whole team packed in defence.
I seem to remember us reverting to 3 at the back during some home games this season, although I have to admit I can't remember which ones! I remember one game where Serginho came on and played on the left wing, and Paolo, Sandro and Stam made up a back 3. I think this system can work, but only if your players are comfortable with it. If we want to be flexible enough to play this system, we need to practice it during pre-season and get the players used to it.
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Old 05-06-2005, 08:04   #15

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I have advocated the 3-4-1-2 system in here since 2000, but I am not convinced that it is the right move at this point in time. The question is whether or not to fix something that is not broken.
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