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Old 08-06-2005, 11:48   #1

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Viera or Gerard!!!!

Iam sure that AC Milan with Gerard or Viera will be a superb team.....guys Milan need the player who can cut balls and have a strong personality i mean the leader personality ....i know Gattuso is fine but weak in the same time although he's gettin' better.....So ,dont u think?!!
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:46   #2

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gerrard is exelent leader
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Old 08-06-2005, 13:25   #3

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dunno.......
they are fine players.......
but im not sure if we could find use of these players- pirlo,gattuso,seedorf,kaka would be at jeopardy- and think where our subs would be- no chance of playing at all.....
i like it when awesome players come to milan. but i believe we have many- adding some underdogs would be nice.... jankulovski and vogel are good examples.

but unlike real and chelsea we have a good enviorment so one or two leaders or stars wouldnt hurt....
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Old 08-06-2005, 13:30   #4

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Viera allready played for Milan once and given that we have Pirlo in his natural position, I doubt that he would improve the team.

Gerrard may be a different story, but I find it highly unlikely that Milan would make a move for him.
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Old 08-06-2005, 14:22   #5

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Both are heavily ovey-hyped anyway IMO. I think our midfield is fine for now in any case.
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Old 08-06-2005, 14:32   #6

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Both are heavily ovey-hyped anyway IMO. I think our midfield is fine for now in any case.
agree. if we do need stregthening in midfield I think there are better players out there for much cheaper.
Anyway, if I had to chose between these two, I would go with gerrard for he is younger and more eager.
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Old 08-06-2005, 14:36   #7

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And also, despite tiring last season, our midfield has been fantasctic over the last few seasons. Jankulovski can also play there, and if Carletto goes 3-4-1-2 then there are only two CM spots anyway:

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Cafu - Gattuso - Pirlo - Jankulovski

Plus Viera is already a Milan reject
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Old 08-06-2005, 15:20   #8

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I think our midfield needs some re-shuffling to be honest, how long can we have Pirlo in the middle ? He can't tackle and isn't the quickest player around. Gattuso, for me is out of position, with his tackling and defensive qualities, why on earth is he on the right ? If anything he should be in a more central role, it would bring better balance to the team. Don't get me started on Seedorf, yeah i know he can be amazing at times, but i'd rather have a consistently good player than a player whose performaces range from Outstanding to plain crap.

Why would it be such a problem if some of our midfielders positions are under threat ? What right do they have to an automatic first team place ? They don't. Sometimes there is too much of a loyalty to these players when other players should be given a chance, most notable Dhorasso. It's time some people in here take off the rose tinted glasses and looked at what's best for the team. Yes our team picks itself WHEN they all play well, but if they're not at their best, get someone else in to do the job and stick with them for a good run of games.

Viera is very good, he cuts it in a very fast and hard fought league even though he's around 30. But i am like most people when i say that Milan should start bringing the age of their players down. Plus as he left us to go to Arsenal, i find it hard to see him come back here. If he were to go somewhere it would be to Madrid.

Gerrard is amazing, one of the few players that can grab a team and physically drive every player to play better. I have to admit, that's probably because he's at Liverpool, home town club with home town fans behind him. But he would still have a big influence and effect on any team once he's settled. He would easily adapt and could play any role in our midfield 3. He can play defensive, but he's better at bursting forward, so for me he could take Seedorf's place without a doubt. Would be far too expensive though ( as would Viera ) and has yet to dominate an International game for England the way he does domestically. But to say he's over-rated is a little narrow minded in my opinion.
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Old 08-06-2005, 17:39   #9

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i wouldnt mind having gerrard but his fee and the risk of unbalancing an already good midfield makes me think otherwise

viera no thanks!
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Old 08-06-2005, 18:57   #10

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You mis-spelled both names. It is Vieira and Gerrard. Seems that everyone here in the forum goes with "Viera".
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Old 08-06-2005, 19:27   #11

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Viera allready played for Milan once and given that we have Pirlo in his natural position, I doubt that he would improve the team.

Gerrard may be a different story, but I find it highly unlikely that Milan would make a move for him.
Pretty much sums up what I had to say
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Old 09-06-2005, 07:57   #12

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Gerrard is amazing, one of the few players that can grab a team and physically drive every player to play better. I have to admit, that's probably because he's at Liverpool, home town club with home town fans behind him. But he would still have a big influence and effect on any team once he's settled. He would easily adapt and could play any role in our midfield 3. He can play defensive, but he's better at bursting forward, so for me he could take Seedorf's place without a doubt. Would be far too expensive though ( as would Viera ) and has yet to dominate an International game for England the way he does domestically. But to say he's over-rated is a little narrow minded in my opinion.
amazing? i even wonder whether he is on the field for the first half of UCL final....his presence is non-existence. sorry even pirlo with an off day can't be as bad as him. he doesn't have half the skills of pirlo, seedorf or even the bull-dozing abilities of gatusso. to me, he is only better than an off-form seedorf. when seedorf, pirlo and gatusso play to their best then gerrard can only sit on the bench because his best is not up there. if we can get him cheap then its ok else its a f**king waste of money.

IMO, only ronaldinho is worth getting to improve our team. any other is just getting more options and depth for the team, it won't make our team much better.
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Old 09-06-2005, 08:08   #13

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amazing? i even wonder whether he is on the field for the first half of UCL final....his presence is non-existence. sorry even pirlo with an off day can't be as bad as him. he doesn't have half the skills of pirlo, seedorf or even the bull-dozing abilities of gatusso. to me, he is only better than an off-form seedorf. when seedorf, pirlo and gatusso play to their best then gerrard can only sit on the bench because his best is not up there. if we can get him cheap then its ok else its a f**king waste of money.

So True.................
people should start realizing that our midfield doesnt really need any help..... and i think that it can be seen on the pitch. -with the exeption of the last part of the season.
maybe ppl aren't saying our midfield sux but it seems as if they are
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Old 09-06-2005, 08:35   #14

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Milan would make a move for the neither of them and they wouldn't ever think about signing for Milan. Period.

P.S. Vieira could not really pull it off with Milan back in the day...
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Old 09-06-2005, 10:26   #15

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amazing? i even wonder whether he is on the field for the first half of UCL final....his presence is non-existence. sorry even pirlo with an off day can't be as bad as him. he doesn't have half the skills of pirlo, seedorf or even the bull-dozing abilities of gatusso. to me, he is only better than an off-form seedorf.
to judge a player on one match is harsh but to judge them on half a match? and what makes it a particularly weak argument is the fact that in the second half and injury time he dragged Liverpool back from certain defeat against the best side in Europe almost single handedly. When they needed a goal it was Gerrard who they pushed forward and he delivered, twice if you consider it was his burst that earned the penalty. He played 3 or 4 different positions in that match as well as captaining the side and was deserving of his man of the match award.

If doing all that only makes him as good as an off-form Seedorf then i'd love to see what an on form Seedorf can do
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