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View Poll Results: Do we need a new coach?
No, Ancelotti is the best 16 34.04%
No, if Anchelotti wants to leave Mourinho 7 14.89%
No, if Anchelotti wants to leave Lippi 14 29.79%
Yes, Mourihno is the appropriate 7 14.89%
Yes, Lippi is the appropriate 8 17.02%
Yes, other is the appropriate 1 2.13%
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Old 04-03-2008, 19:24   #1

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Do we need a new coach and if yes which one?

For many of us(me included) Carlito should have been sacked after losing to Liverpool but he survived (sadly) but after being disqualifaid in last 16 after 6 or 7 years and not wining Scudeto he will probably get fired in summer or sooner .
Who would you like to replacae him and why and if ther is someone who thinks Carlo should stay go and join Inter fan club.


I pray it will be the Italian genius LIppi(he didnt denie rumors for the first time) or the crayz portugues Mourinho(he sad he wishes to coach a team in Seria A )
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Old 04-03-2008, 19:47   #2

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If Carlo left after the Liverpool loss we never would have won the CL last year. Carlo needs to be able to choose what players he wants, and the winning will follow.
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Old 04-03-2008, 20:07   #3

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Logically speaking, Ancelotti should've been fired after two straight years of mental break down (losing to Deportivo and Liverpool), but for some reason he stayed around. Aside from the fact that he is a good coach, his stay also has a lot to do with the fact that he doesn't care about what the team does on the transfer market.

This guy is a complete pushover when it comes to dealing with the management. We sold Shevchenko in 2006, and spent the whole damn summer looking for a replacement only to find some guy named Ricardo Oliveira; all Ancelotti said about the was he thinks Oliveira is a good player. We have been using the same damn players for practically five years now without meaningful additions, but you don't never hear any complaints from Ancelotti or even demands from him. Any player that the management doesn't buy because of the price tag will automatically be labeled as "doesn't fit our playing style" by Ancelotti. Any crappy player the management does buy will automatically be called either "a great champion or a supreme young talent" by Ancelotti. He even take it as far as talking about star players just like the management to give the fans false hopes of us actually making some good signings. Where else can you find someone like this to be your coach? That's why Ancelotti has stayed this long and will continue to stay here for the time being. The management has lost interest in making this team great and they need a coach who is obedient to carry out their plans. A guy like Mourinho would've had a media tour about Berlusconi and Galliani's incompetence by now had he been coaching the last five years.

In the extremely unlikely even that Ancelotti does get fired, I would like to see Mourinho take over. The guy is a genius as a coach and knows how to handle his players. Furthermore, he won't just sit there and let the management do whatever the hell they want to do with the team. He will step it up and take the fight to the management if that's what has to be done.
Lippi would obviously be a pretty good choice as well, but I think Mourinho is a guy who can be here for the long term and build a dynasty.
Another coach I would be interested in is Prandelli of Fiorentina. This guy has an eye for talent and knows how to mentor young players. He would be great if we are going to start rebuilding with young players.
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Old 04-03-2008, 21:03   #4

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This is the kind of post i was expected to read. Why didn't you post that yesterday? If Carlo wasn't a good coach, you don't discover it today (especially because you say this was your idea since 2005).

On another note, the "italian genius" lost 3 CL finals out of 4. Still a great coach though, but nobody is perfect.
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Old 04-03-2008, 21:59   #5

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A guy like Mourinho would've had a media tour about Berlusconi and Galliani's incompetence by now had he been coaching the last five years.



and this is why we stick with guys like Ancelotti who belong to Milan and guys like Mourinho...

Berlusconi and Galliani's incompetence???? My friend, it is because of those guys, and Braida, and Ramaccioni, and Meerseman, and others that you like this club in the first place!
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and this is why we stick with guys like Ancelotti who belong to Milan and guys like Mourinho...

Berlusconi and Galliani's incompetence???? My friend, it is because of those guys, and Braida, and Ramaccioni, and Meerseman, and others that you like this club in the first place!
I don't understand what you are trying to say. All I am saying is, Berlusconi and Galliani need to be pushed to make the right decisions. These two have been sitting there and doing nothing for years now and because of the lack of internal pressure on them to make good signings, they are not even trying to build a good team any more. A media tour might be a big harsh, but i that's what needs to be done then so be it. A guy like Ancelotti is a great coach but he is way too obedient to drag this team out of the gutter that the management has put it in.
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Old 04-03-2008, 23:04   #7

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Well one thing I don't want and I am pretty sure you will change your mind when it happens is a coach who is always feuding with management and gets himself fired and adds something to the team that is just as bad or arguably even worse than a losing streak...instability.
In any case IF its the management's fault a new coach won't change too much, I don't see how in a disagreement between Mourinho and Berlusconi you expect Mourinho to prevail.
This current edition of the team needs more viable depth/new personnel and a bit more variety, the sky is not falling.

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I don't understand what you are trying to say. All I am saying is, Berlusconi and Galliani need to be pushed to make the right decisions. These two have been sitting there and doing nothing for years now and because of the lack of internal pressure on them to make good signings, they are not even trying to build a good team any more. A media tour might be a big harsh, but i that's what needs to be done then so be it. A guy like Ancelotti is a great coach but he is way too obedient to drag this team out of the gutter that the management has put it in.
are you saying that they purposely not sign good players so we'll lose? And just because a coach doesn't go public with his displeasures doesn't mean he is not trying to put pressure on them to sign players.
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No disrespect to Carlo, but now he should go. Simply because he is not a type of manager who could win the league. This defeat wouldn't have hurt this much severe if ACM were involed in the Scudetto race. Now its only about getting into the CL next season, not even the Coppa Italia. Carlo will remain a legend but now is the time to bring Jose Mourinho.
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Well one thing I don't want and I am pretty sure you will change your mind when it happens is a coach who is always feuding with management and gets himself fired and adds something to the team that is just as bad or arguably even worse than a losing streak...instability.
In any case IF its the management's fault a new coach won't change too much, I don't see how in a disagreement between Mourinho and Berlusconi you expect Mourinho to prevail.
This current edition of the team needs more viable depth/new personnel and a bit more variety, the sky is not falling.

I see your point. It is rather difficult for a coach to change the minds of the management. But the least the coach has to do is to give it a try. Stability is a great thing to have but as you can see from what happened to us the past few seasons, this current stability hasn't brought us anything good. The management feel very comfortable not doing their job. And they have no pressure put on them to do the right thing because the coach never says anything. I am not saying Mourinho should have a constant feut with Berlusconi but our coach needs to let his voices be heard rather than just sit there quietly and let management make one moronic decision after another.
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are you saying that they purposely not sign good players so we'll lose? And just because a coach doesn't go public with his displeasures doesn't mean he is not trying to put pressure on them to sign players.

They purposely didn't sign good players so they can make money off of this team. If you have any other explanations, I'd like to hear it. As far as voicing his displeasures is concerned, maybe you are right, maybe Ancelotti has done it privately, but as you can see, the results suck. Sometimes in life, drastic measures are necessary to get the job done. Whether he should have a public feud with the management or not is another issue. But Ancelotti has got to do a much better job motivating the management to do what needs to be done to help the team instead of making up phony plans just to get the fans to buy their tickets every summer.
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Give me a new coach better than Carlo regarding Champions League if you have!
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Ancelotti isn't the only reason the club has failed lately. It's a responsibility that all have to accept, from Carlo's inability to do better with what he has (which quite frankly isn't that bad), to the management's lack of reinforcing the squad in key areas, to the players not performing. Even fans have to take some responsibility seeing as they hounded the players last season and the start of this, which simply cannot help the team.

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They purposely didn't sign good players so they can make money off of this team..
If they wanted to make money, then they really shouldn't be managing a football club, there are plenty of other much more lucrative industries. In fact, football is notorious for the losses patrons make spending on their clubs (Moratti knows this very well).
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Ancelotti not the only one to be blame.and put the idea to hire Mourinho on your pocket mate.if it has to be change the person should be Van Basten.or Klinsmann (well.. since he got the job already in Munich we shall forget about him).
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