Winter mercato 2021

[Arildonardo]

i dont highly rate donna

But still you think we can sell him for €90m? With half a season left on his contract...

While I too have rated Plizzari's talent highly from what he did before at youth level, I don't see how anyone can rate him higher or even close to equal as a goalkeeper who is just one year older who has 22 caps for Italy and have played almost 200 matches in Serie A. That said, Plizzari has the tools to become a good goalkeeper someday.

We'll see, if we lose Donnarumma on a free transfer in the summer Plizzari might come back and fight for a place. But I don't think anything will happen regarding goalkeepers in this transfer window.

[Arildonardo]

Di Marzio says Chelsea will loan with option Fikayo Tomori, but the option is 30 million 

English prices... €30m there is "nothing". Every mid-table club in PL can easily sign players for these amounts.

[mazen111]

But still you think we can sell him for €90m? With half a season left on his contract...

While I too have rated Plizzari's talent highly from what he did before at youth level, I don't see how anyone can rate him higher or even close to equal as a goalkeeper who is just one year older who has 22 caps for Italy and have played almost 200 matches in Serie A. That said, Plizzari has the tools to become a good goalkeeper someday.

We'll see, if we lose Donnarumma on a free transfer in the summer Plizzari might come back and fight for a place. But I don't think anything will happen regarding goalkeepers in this transfer window.

yes. someone like maguire was bought for a close figure

[Arildonardo]

yes. someone like maguire was bought for a close figure

If only it was that simple... It's impossible to compare. Just because there was one totally mad case like the Maguire transfer where a club massively overpaid because they were desperate at the time, it doesn't mean that we can expect that to always happen - and only when we want to sell. There are only 13 transfers in history at more than Maguire's, which was €87m.

€90m for a "very weak when it comes to crosses and well struck shots from distance"-goalkeeper with half a season left on his contract would be one of the most shocking transfers of all time. If someone wanted to buy him now instead of waiting until the summer, they would offer us maybe 1/10 - 1/5 of that figure.

In an earlier post you suggested "we should pursue someone like belotti, immobile, haaland, zapata, dybala, firmino". What if their clubs used the Maguire-deal as an example to set the price for these players? They would be priced at least at €200m-500m each.

[mazen111]

If only it was that simple... It's impossible to compare. Just because there was one totally mad case like the Maguire transfer where a club massively overpaid because they were desperate at the time, it doesn't mean that we can expect that to always happen - and only when we want to sell. There are only 13 transfers in history at more than Maguire's, which was €87m.

€90m for a "very weak when it comes to crosses and well struck shots from distance"-goalkeeper with half a season left on his contract would be one of the most shocking transfers of all time. If someone wanted to buy him now instead of waiting until the summer, they would offer us maybe 1/10 - 1/5 of that figure.

In an earlier post you suggested "we should pursue someone like belotti, immobile, haaland, zapata, dybala, firmino". What if their clubs used the Maguire-deal as an example to set the price for these players? They would be priced at least at €200m-500m each.

it wont be as that. he needs to learn from gallaini who bought wonders like nesta, rui costa, inzaghi, seedorf and pirlo (free), ibra .... for peanuts

[Arildonardo]

it wont be as that. he needs to learn from gallaini who bought wonders like nesta, rui costa, inzaghi, seedorf and pirlo (free), ibra .... for peanuts

The players mentioned were not bought for peanuts. Maybe if you compare their price with todays prices, but you have to compare it with what players were sold for at that time...

And Pirlo was not free, he cost €17 million. Which was quite a lot for a relatively unproven 21 year old at the time. Not a regular at Inter, but turned out great for us though.

Nesta - the 4th most expensive player transferred in 2002 (after Ferdinand, Ronaldo, Crespo)
Rui Costa - the 6th most expensive player transferred in 2001 (after Zidane, Buffon, Mendieta, Nedved, Veron)
Inzaghi - the 7th most expensive player transferred in 2001 (after Zidane, Buffon, Mendieta, Nedved, Veron, Rui Costa)
Seedorf - the 6th most expensive player transferred in 2002 (after Ferdinand, Ronaldo, Crespo, Nesta, Cannavaro)

Great signings of course, but surely not signed for peanuts.

Anyway, these days we can't compete with the richest clubs on the transfer market like we could back then.

[mazen111]

The players mentioned were not bought for peanuts. Maybe if you compare their price with todays prices, but you have to compare it with what players were sold for at that time...

And Pirlo was not free, he cost €17 million. Which was quite a lot for a relatively unproven 21 year old at the time. Not a regular at Inter, but turned out great for us though.

Nesta - the 4th most expensive player transferred in 2002 (after Ferdinand, Ronaldo, Crespo)
Rui Costa - the 6th most expensive player transferred in 2001 (after Zidane, Buffon, Mendieta, Nedved, Veron)
Inzaghi - the 7th most expensive player transferred in 2001 (after Zidane, Buffon, Mendieta, Nedved, Veron, Rui Costa)
Seedorf - the 6th most expensive player transferred in 2002 (after Ferdinand, Ronaldo, Crespo, Nesta, Cannavaro)

Great signings of course, but surely not signed for peanuts.

Anyway, these days we can't compete with the richest clubs on the transfer market like we could back then.

" After featuring in less than 30 Serie A matches for Inter, Andrea Pirlo was deemed surplus to requirements and sold to the Nerazzurri's fiercest opponents, AC Milan. No one will remember that Inter then accepted Drazen Brncic as a makeweight in the deal. Unsurprisingly, the Croatian midfielder failed to record a single minute of top-flight action for the Nerazzurri, while Pirlo was busy making history with the Rossoneri.

Instead of learning their lessons from letting Pirlo swap allegiances, Inter made a similar blunder a year later, allowing Clarence Seedorf to link up with his former teammate on the wrong side of the city. Only this time, the Nerazzurri committed probably the biggest mistake in the club's history - exchanging the Dutchman for Francesco Coco. 

Indeed, a like-for-like swap deal rewarded Milan with one of the most renowned midfielders ever. Meanwhile, Coco picked up just over 20 Serie A appearances in five years at the club, and no one will ever remember he was part of the Nerazzurri."


https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/5-t...sanctioned

[Sleeping Giant]

" After featuring in less than 30 Serie A matches for Inter, Andrea Pirlo was deemed surplus to requirements and sold to the Nerazzurri's fiercest opponents, AC Milan. No one will remember that Inter then accepted Drazen Brncic as a makeweight in the deal. Unsurprisingly, the Croatian midfielder failed to record a single minute of top-flight action for the Nerazzurri, while Pirlo was busy making history with the Rossoneri.

Instead of learning their lessons from letting Pirlo swap allegiances, Inter made a similar blunder a year later, allowing Clarence Seedorf to link up with his former teammate on the wrong side of the city. Only this time, the Nerazzurri committed probably the biggest mistake in the club's history - exchanging the Dutchman for Francesco Coco. 

Indeed, a like-for-like swap deal rewarded Milan with one of the most renowned midfielders ever. Meanwhile, Coco picked up just over 20 Serie A appearances in five years at the club, and no one will ever remember he was part of the Nerazzurri."


https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/5-t...sanctioned

and the point of this was??

[mazen111]

and the point of this was??

maldini should be after such deals

[Sleeping Giant]

maldini should be after such deals

swap Bennacer with Paredes?