AC Milan vs PSV Eindhoven (MATCH COMMENTS)

[Nadir]

Group stage - 19 October 2005 20:45 (CET) - Giuseppe Meazza - Milan

PSV EINDHOVEN Squad list

Goalkeepers

1 Heurelho Gomes BRA
21 Edwin Zoetebier HOL
23 Nathan Coe AUS
38 Tom Muijters BEL
56 Gino Mommers HOL

Defenders

2 André Ooijer HOL
3 Michael Reiziger HOL
4 Alex BRA
18 Eric Addo GHA
39 Olievier Ter Horst ARG
45 Kristof Goessens BEL
47 Dirk Marcellis HOL
48 Sjors Paridaans HOL
51 Bart van Berlo HOL
52 Francesco Caratta HOL
53 Rens Van Eijden HOL
54 Jahmill Flu HOL

Midfielders

6 Timmy Simons BEL
7 Mika Väyrynen FIN
8 Phillip Cocu HOL
14 Osmar Ferreyra ARG
16 Theo Lucius HOL
19 Michael Lamey HOL
20 Ibrahim Afellay HOL
25 John de Jong HOL
36 Lindsay Wilson AUS
37 Ismaïl Aisatti HOL
43 Marien Boverhof HOL
44 Guy Dufour BEL
46 Sergio Kawarmala HOL
58 Aldin Peltjo HOL
59 Roel Schirra HOL
61 Jasper Waalkens HOL

Forwards

9 Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink HOL
11 DaMarcus Beasley USA
17 Jefferson Farfán PER
29 Robert BRA
33 Roy Beerens HOL
35 Gerald Sibon HOL
40 Fitim Kacik GER
41 Quincy Allee HOL
42 Rob van Boehel HOL
49 Bernard Quainoo HOL
50 Rochdi Achenteh HOL
55 Ronald Hikspoors HOL
57 Nicky Munz HOL
60 Paul Voss HOL

[Haroon]

I think it is appropriate to discuss the visit to Arena AufSchalke to face Schalke 04 first rather than discuss PSV's visit to Milano. :D :nana:

[Dr Milano]

:dcool: I think it is appropriate to discuss the visit to Arena AufSchalke to face Schalke 04 first rather than discuss PSV's visit to Milano. :D :nana:
yes i agree is thier a schalke thread about

[Warro Bantan]

Can we discuss this game now Haroon? :D

[Rayno_acm]

Not yet :hah2: :d6: :neww: :whie: :nana:
Before that we have to win the game against Cagliari :510: :fright: :r14:

[rae]

Can we discuss this game now Haroon? :DI do not ind that :D

As well as UEFA Cl final pre-game next year :devf: :p017:

Forza Milan

[VMK]

PSV don't have a chance against Milan this time. Too many players of PSV are gone and we don't have any strikers: Vennegoor is suspended, Robert is injured and Koné is not allowed to play in the CL.
We also have some very tough matches in the Eredivisie. In a few hours we will play against the no.1 AZ and after the Milan game against Ajax.

[Brasileiro]

PSV don't have a chance against Milan this time. Too many players of PSV are gone and we don't have any strikers: Vennegoor is suspended, Robert is injured and Koné is not allowed to play in the CL.
We also have some very tough matches in the Eredivisie. In a few hours we will play against the no.1 AZ and after the Milan game against Ajax.
VMK, I agree. But PSV is very strong in a Milan weaknes, set pieces(sp?)...I saw in your site that Alex had a knee injure, is he playing in good conditions?? Last year PSV defence was great, how they are playing this year w/ the new aditions??? You have any idea about your line up for the game??? Thanks :)

[O_o]

PSV - AZ 3-0 We're back on top of our league now, although Feyenoord will probably be 1st after their match this afternoon. Still we had a great evening yesterday. Good victory vs AZ and Ajax drawing vs Heracles Almelo.

Alex should be fine for wednesday. Our defence with Alex is OK but not as good as last year. Which really applies to our whole team in CL. (with Koné our offence could have been a little better)
Too bad Koné isn't allowed to play in the CL because he was stunning yesterday.

I'd be really happy with a draw vs you guys wednesday. We really lack attackers because Koné isn't allowed to play before 2th round and Vennegoor's red card vs Fenerbahce. We'll probably play Robert, who hasn't been all that impressive (although I have to admit he didn't get that much chances, but that probably has got a reason). Farfan will probably be our most dangerous attacker.

Another problem we've got is that our young talent Afellay (offencive midfielder) is in Ramadan (because he's a muslim) atm which caused him drop out early vs AZ, after 60-70 minutes he started to get muscle cramps just like Koné who's also in Ramadan. The match on wednesday is at 20:45 and yesterdays match was at 19:30 so the problem might be not so big.

I'm going for 1-1. We'r not yet the team we were last year but we still got our big boss Guus (who always comes up with a good tactical plan), and great players like Cocu, Alex and Farfan to name a few.

[Brasileiro]

PSV - AZ 3-0 We're back on top of our league now, although Feyenoord will probably be 1st after their match this afternoon. Still we had a great evening yesterday. Good victory vs AZ and Ajax drawing vs Heracles Almelo.

Alex should be fine for wednesday. Our defence with Alex is OK but not as good as last year. Which really applies to our whole team in CL. (with Koné our offence could have been a little better)
Too bad Koné isn't allowed to play in the CL because he was stunning yesterday.

I'd be really happy with a draw vs you guys wednesday. We really lack attackers because Koné isn't allowed to play before 2th round and Vennegoor's red card vs Fenerbahce. We'll probably play Robert, who hasn't been all that impressive (although I have to admit he didn't get that much chances, but that probably has got a reason). Farfan will probably be our most dangerous attacker.

Another problem we've got is that our young talent Afellay (offencive midfielder) is in Ramadan (because he's a muslim) atm which caused him drop out early vs AZ, after 60-70 minutes he started to get muscle cramps just like Koné who's also in Ramadan. The match on wednesday is at 20:45 and yesterdays match was at 19:30 so the problem might be not so big.

I'm going for 1-1. We'r not yet the team we were last year but we still got our big boss Guus (who always comes up with a good tactical plan), and great players like Cocu, Alex and Farfan to name a few.
Thanks for the information...
I always folow PSV games by livescore, and this Koné guy is making a lot of goals. I´m glad that he will not play against Milan...

[Dr Milano]

Thanks for the information...
I always folow PSV games by livescore, and this Koné guy is making a lot of goals. I´m glad that he will not play against Milan...
i doubt he would make a difference milan defence is too strong

[Brasileiro]

i doubt he would make a difference milan defence is too strong
Man, last year everyone was saying this about our defence and PSV attack, and we know how they played against us...I just hope tht you´re right this time...

[Warro Bantan]

Anybody know who is showing the match live?:

From ESPN Intl:


Thurs Oct20, 2005
UEFA Champions League
Fútbol de Europa - Champions League
AC Milan vs. PSV
Stadio Giuseppe Meazza Milan, Italy
Fecha #3 8:00 pm to 10:00 pm

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AC Milan (Italy) vs PSV (Netherlands) I dont even get ESPN Deportes, but I think I know someone who does...this sucks...nothing live :moan: ...anyone got anything on the net?

[hitmannq8]

TLN will have the game live ;)

and O_o, no it might not be a difference for muslims if its 20:30, because, we can only eat after the sun sets, for example, here in montreal canada, the sun sets at 6:10pm.. but in Milan i think it sets at 7:30.. im not sure if the coach will allow the player to eat 1 hour before the game, it'll make him full! he might let him just have some carbohydrates to give him some energy

[O_o]

i doubt he would make a difference milan defence is too strong

Well he would make a BIG difference! Coz now we have not much options for the attack, Beasley will probably play and he's not really CL-material, Farfan is ok but he's lightly injured (still think he'll play) and possibly Robert (like I said, he hasn't played that much, so not sure bout him, but probably not up to CL-standards either because he would've played more if he was).
Kone is not yet a goal scoring machine but his dribbles are insane. AZ'
s 2 central defenders are in our National team (Oranje) (1 in starting line-up) and he sometimes made it look like they were not even on the pitch when we played vs AZ on sathurday. We've payed big money for him but he'll be worth every penney. I hope you'll see him play in the 2th round ; :nervous:

Still I think a draw is possible for us even now when we lack a decent attack. Or maybe It's only hope.

[Warro Bantan]

:w155: Thanks :v408: hitmannq8!!!

I think I have a friend who gets that feed, via satellite. :dcool: :D

[Dr Milano]

Man, last year everyone was saying this about our defence and PSV attack, and we know how they played against us...I just hope tht you´re right this time...
hey i am a football guru i know the score i will enshallah be right

[Dr Milano]

Well he would make a BIG difference! Coz now we have not much options for the attack, Beasley will probably play and he's not really CL-material, Farfan is ok but he's lightly injured (still think he'll play) and possibly Robert (like I said, he hasn't played that much, so not sure bout him, but probably not up to CL-standards either because he would've played more if he was).
Kone is not yet a goal scoring machine but his dribbles are insane. AZ'
s 2 central defenders are in our National team (Oranje) (1 in starting line-up) and he sometimes made it look like they were not even on the pitch when we played vs AZ on sathurday. We've payed big money for him but he'll be worth every penney. I hope you'll see him play in the 2th round ; :nervous:

Still I think a draw is possible for us even now when we lack a decent attack. Or maybe It's only hope.
are u a psv fan if so i am not suprised by this post

[O_o]

are u a psv fan if so i am not suprised by this post

errr.. yes, but I thought that was kindof obvious :p286:

I don't think there's any milan fan around that thinks they're gonna draw vs PSV in san siro.

[slicknick]

:1ole: :5schal: :5schal: :5schal: :5schal: :5schal: :5schal: :5schal: :5schal: :5schal: :5schal: :5schal: :3band: :3band: :3band: :3band: :3band: :3band: :3band: :3band: :3band: :3band: :rone: :rone: :rone: :3band: :rone: :3band: :5schal: :5schal: :3band: :3band: COME ON MILAN, light up my Wednesday...

JUST HAVE TO WIN THIS GAME!

[GilAttack [11]]

I think Milan should take this one, without sweating it too much....I think 2-0 is about right. PSV is a strong team, as usual, but Milan @ San Siro....is more than tough.

Any idea about our starting 11? I guess Vieri will be there, same with Pirlo and Ricky (And Cafu).

Im guessing (I have no real clue):

Dida

Marco
Stam
Maldini
KK

Rino
Pirlo
Seedorf

Ricky

Vieri
Sheva

[Warro Bantan]

The Dutch side are coming off a good performance. From uefa.com:
PSV Eindhoven 3-0 AZ Alkmaar

PSV triumphed in this crucial encounter against leaders AZ Alkmaar 3-0 to briefly take the lead in the league standings before Feyenoord won on Sunday. The Dutch champions opened the scoring two minutes before the break when Arouna Koné set up Phillip Cocu and the PSV captain's shot from ten metres found the net.

Goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes was forced to save a free-kick from Kenneth Perez in the second half, but when Alkmaar's Ron Vlaar was sent off for a second bookable offence ten minutes from time, Cocu doubled PSV's lead a minute later. With four minutes left Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink scored after DaMarcus Beasley had hit the post. Michael Reiziger was on the bench recovering from a hip injury, but did not feature, while Jefferson Farfán was rested after returning from international duty with Peru with a bruised heel. Theo Lucius (hamstring), John de Jong (knee), Mika Väyrynen (ankle), Michael Ball (knee) and Gerald Sibon (neck) are all out injured.

"We took advantage of some sloppy play to open the scoring on the verge of half-time," said PSV coach Guus Hiddink. "Alkmaar started the second half brightly, but we responded tactically well. All in all, this is a fine result - in fact, bearing in mind the circumstances we are in, it is excellent."

©uefa.com 1998-2005. All rights reserved. :D

This, after the performance I saw yesterday, is not as worrying as if we had lost. What we must ensure now is that we go into this match with as much concentration and focus as we started the game vs Cagliari.

I am more confident in the backline now, though it remains to be seen what will happen late in the 2nd half vs the Dutch team. The Eridivisie champions are not to be taken lightly, despite their restructuring due to the sale of many a key player in the summer. Hiddink is an excelent tactician, and tends to make more than expected with what he is given to work with.

I think we should win this one though, and what I cant wait for really is to see our starting 11, as that in and of itself will be a HUGE factor in the game´s outcome (IMO).

Kaka, Sheva, Gila, Seedorf, and Pirlo are must starts for me, and in Max´s continued absence, I would opt for Gattuso. Janku could start over Rino, but in truth, thats only if Carlo wanted to rest the dimunitive Italian stallion (now I am singing his praises..yet, after yesterday´s domestic performance, I certainly feel its his due).

As for the back line, I hope Carlo plays Stam and Maldini in the middle, with Serghino on the left, and Cafu on the right...hope we dont go over our quota of non Europeans...but, with Sheva considered European and Janku as well(?) maybe we will be ok fielding all 3.

Forwardline: Sheva and Gila. Pippo to replace Gila. Let Sheva chase Raul´s European record! :D

FORZA MILAN!

[Rayno_acm]

errr.. yes, but I thought that was kindof obvious :p286:

I don't think there's any milan fan around that thinks they're gonna draw vs PSV in san siro.
Yes, it was pretty obvious :whie: Well, you have the right to support your team, but you have to admit, ACMILAN is hungry for revenge, WE HAVE TO GO TO Paris in May 2006, so do not be suprised if we kick your a$$es :fright: :firedev: :nunu: :3band:

[shevagol_7]

We should come into this game and win comfortably. We have looked much more solid in the past couple of weeks looking much more comfortable and confident. I'm also happy with Ancelotti consistently using a rotation system without creating too much havoc with team chemistry. I haven't seen much of PSV this year but from what I understand they are considerably weaker than last season. This should bode well for Milan. We should go for a full strength team, so my formation would look like this:

----------Dida----
Cafu--Stam---Maldini--Kaladze
---------Pirlo----------------
--Gattuso------Janku/Seedorf
--------Kaka'---------------
Sheva--------Gila

I'm sure Ancelotti will throw Pippo on there at some point in the second half. I wouldn't be too upset if he goes with Billy next to Maldini, Stam on the right with Jankulovski or Serginho on the left.

Anything but a win here would be considered unacceptable. I expect Milan to come away with all 3 points.

[Dr Milano]

errr.. yes, but I thought that was kindof obvious :p286:

I don't think there's any milan fan around that thinks they're gonna draw vs PSV in san siro.
too right mate u know it urself milan are gonna win enshallah anyways if milan can beat u 2 times they qualify right 3 wins and a draw sends u through i think

[mrki]

Milan should go with this formation......
--------------dida--------
cafu--stam--maldini--kaladze
------------pirlo---------
-ambrosini/gattuso--jankulovsky
----------kaka----------

--------sheva----gila----

I really hope carlo gives Jankulovsky real chance on the LM, he can do much better job than seedorf, people can say whatever they want but, seedorf looks all washed up. Pirlo,cafu,kaladze,kaka are refreshed so they could play a quality match. Sheva & Gila should start ( aldough im afraid carlo has his mind on vieri....:( ). And pippo can play for 20 min, he needs to start slowly. With jankulovsky we can get more runs than with seedorf, and I expect Pirlo to start playing some decent defence and make some good runs, not just pass and run a bit.... Whats the situation with Ambrosini? he was very good at the start of the season.... we need to work on our possesion on opponents half, good accurate passes from kaka and sheva to gila and some good crosses from cafu and marek. we can win this....

[Milanium]

In difference from the Cagliari's game, would we inject more speed and reflexes to this game, we should be sure to win it.

[sam_3]

I hope the deffence is cafu--billy--maldini--serginho. billy and paolo r way better together than maldini and stam.

[slicknick]

I do not mind seeing anybody on the pitch from the 1st minute, except for Vieri, please Carletto, DO NOT start up with him...

[VMK]

Our line-up will probably be:

Gomes
Ooijer | Alex | Reiziger | Lamey
Simons | Afellay | Cocu | Beasley
Farfan | Robert

Hopefully Farfan is ready in time, he came back injured from the matches in Peru. And Reiziger hasn't played for a long time, so i hope it will go well.

Ps. Only 4 players played against Milan last year (Ooijer, Alex, Cocu and Farfan).

[hitmannq8]

I really hope that Jankulovski can be given a full 90 minutes vs PSV. Maybe not in Seedorf's role cuz seedorf has been impressive in the last 3 games, but maybe in a left-back role. Paolo might be getting a rest and any combination of Kaladze/Stam/Simic/Billy might start. Cafu will most definately start on the right, although I really really miss the Cafu of last year and the one before, he was so impressive in attacking, but yet i haven't seen him do that this year.. but im pretty sure he will be attacking next wed..

Kaka will start, but guys, I really think we should start with Vieri and Gila.. I really think Sheva needs a rest, if we over-use him, im afraid he will get tired too fast and get injured! Vieri is playing really bad now, maybe if he gets more time he will get some confidence and start scoring a bit more.. Gila is starting to to rediscover his form, all he needs now is to start playing regularly and he'll start scoring 4 every game..

and about Pirlo, i really dont know what to say, i think he is the best in his position in the world, i really love him.. but unfortunately, he hasnt put in one good performance thus far! i hope Pirlo starts to shine because when he does, that is when Milan are unstopable... I hope Rino plays the way he did with the Azzuri, he was a monster!

And im betting that if Pippo gets 30 mins at least, he will score!

[sam_3]

i have to agree with you on pirlo hitmanq8. and it seems like vogel has added alittle more stability (deffensive wise) to our side than pirlo.

[humanTORCH]

I miss pippo celebration.....I will be delighted if he were to play this match.
Hope he score too!

[zlatanov]

I think it is a bit too soon for both Janku and Pippo to start any games let alone an important CL clash vs PSV. Both of them just returned from injuries and probably need some time until they find their rythm in practice and coming in as subs. I personally wouldn't hope to see neither of them start at least for another 3-4 games or so.
From what I read on the official website, there is some concern whether Sheva will be ready to start for this game, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Vieri and Gila up front ... and in Carlo's words, the former is a sure starter vs PSV.
A nice "surprise" is Vogel, I must say, and now I am not that worried if Pirlo isn't at his best for the Swiss could deputise for him vs his old teammates. Chances are, though, that Pirlo will start this game for he had to rest this last weekend, while Vogel had a string of consecutive games with Milan and the NT, so I'd expect him to start on the bench.
My guess for the team would be: Dida, Cafu, Stam, Maldini, Kaladze, Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf, Kaka, Sheva, Vieri.

[Warro Bantan]

I think it is a bit too soon for both Janku and Pippo to start any games let alone an important CL clash vs PSV. Both of them just returned from injuries and probably need some time until they find their rythm in practice and coming in as subs. I personally wouldn't hope to see neither of them start at least for another 3-4 games or so.

:pr115: Quite so Zlat! Quite so.


From what I read on the official website, there is some concern whether Sheva will be ready to start for this game, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Vieri and Gila up front ... and in Carlo's words, the former is a sure starter vs PSV.

Oh no! :moan: Say it aint so Yvgeny! :nervous: Say it aint so! Anyone but eeeediat Vieri! Ok, so while I hope for a pleasant surprise, I believe more pragmatically that Vieri will miss at least 5 chances, and score maybe one. :w221: (If we are lucky)

A nice "surprise" is Vogel, I must say, and now I am not that worried if Pirlo isn't at his best for the Swiss could deputise for him vs his old teammates. Chances are, though, that Pirlo will start this game for he had to rest this last weekend, while Vogel had a string of consecutive games with Milan and the NT, so I'd expect him to start on the bench.

Indeed, Vogel is the most pleasant surprise of the season for me, and is an able deputy for Andrea.

My guess for the team would be: Dida, Cafu, Stam, Maldini, Kaladze, Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf, Kaka, Sheva, Vieri.

Ahh yes, I like your lineup Zlat! In fact I prefer it to mine! :dcool: Though to be honest, after the good game by Serghino on the weekend, I think we could look for him to feature at some point vs PSV.

[Dr Milano]

:pr115: Quite so Zlat! Quite so.




Oh no! :moan: Say it aint so Yvgeny! :nervous: Say it aint so! Anyone but eeeediat Vieri! Ok, so while I hope for a pleasant surprise, I believe more pragmatically that Vieri will miss at least 5 chances, and score maybe one. :w221: (If we are lucky)



Indeed, Vogel is the most pleasant surprise of the season for me, and is an able deputy for Andrea.



Ahh yes, I like your lineup Zlat! In fact I prefer it to mine! :dcool: Though to be honest, after the good game by Serghino on the weekend, I think we could look for him to feature at some point vs PSV.
serginho nah nah mate kaladze should start

[Dr Milano]

ok is this game on today or tommorow

[Dr Milano]

its tommorow i saw it on sky sports news

[Billy_Montreal]

I know this is a thread dedicated to OUR GAME but I can't help myself to say finally JUVE is getting their asses handed to them by Bayern...2-0...

I guess the self-proclaimed dynasty is not all that powerful :devf:

[zlatanov]

I just finished watching Bayern-Juve (2-1, Juve scored in the 90th min) and all I can say is that Bayern kicked the zebra's ass all over the place :). Juve were totally outplayed and the score could have easily been much higher for Bayern if it wasn't for a couple of wasted sitters by Makaay and co. I must add that our Abbiati was at fault for the 1st goal for Bayern when he completely misjudged a shot from Deisler :sagrin: .
The most important thing, however, is that Juve start to look derailed and are probably nearing a bad period. Should this happen indeed, Milan must be very concentrated in Serie A and take full advantage of it.
Oh, and those who still doubt that Sagnol is a player worthy of a Milan shirt should have watched this game - if he doesn't prolong his contract and is available for free this summer, it would be a crime not to sign him.

[sheva-gila]

i agree you with juve were totally outplayed and i sow ibrahimovic totally out of the game he scored a goal but in that position also my grenamather can score that goal.
abiatti is amaizing goal kepper, about sagnol great player for our squad we most sing him in januray.

[ariel]

Saw that match too and i`m over the moon ;),Juve are definitely dropping their form,they can say whatever,that Bayern had the advantage of playing at home or blah blah blah but they have been pushing too hard in desire to prove themselves and they are losing it.They`ll soon drop their form in serie a, just wait...On the other hand,i believe we are only going to re-gain our form....as for tomorrow...FORZA MILAN!

[mrki]

It looks like Vieri is gonna start tommorow.........im gonna be sick!!
Let Gila play and get his touch back....Carlo cant handle sheva,gila,vieri,pippo....we will have some problems with that. In my oppinion, vieri is ( looking at quality) our 4th striker, and he should play as 4th striker. Sheva-gila need to work on passing and assists, pippo will be back soon. But tommorow, once again we will see useless vieri doing - nothing!

[hitmannq8]

It looks like Vieri is gonna start tommorow.........im gonna be sick!!
Let Gila play and get his touch back....Carlo cant handle sheva,gila,vieri,pippo....we will have some problems with that. In my oppinion, vieri is ( looking at quality) our 4th striker, and he should play as 4th striker. Sheva-gila need to work on passing and assists, pippo will be back soon. But tommorow, once again we will see useless vieri doing - nothing!


hahyahaahahhaahahahah that made me laugh

mrki i have to tell you, i tend to agree almost 100% with all your posts..

and yeah, vieri is going to start tomorrow unfortunately, and if no one notices, Jankulovski's name has been put on the defender's list for the squad and not in the midfield list for the first time.. we might see him as a left-back some time into the 2nd half :).. Sheva said that he was fine and does not need a rest, but i really do think he will be needed a rest.. Pirlo will definately start, because if he doesnt, his form will only get worse.. I hope Pirlo can finally put in an impressive performance.. Gattuso started to play well, what a monster he can become when is in top form. Seedorf is playing amazing again, usually Seedorf does this only for 4-5 games a season, but right now, he's been amazing in all of the last 3 games! :)

Kaka hasnt scored in a time now so he's probably something like this :angf: .. i'll predict Kaka's first hat-trick in a Milan shirt ;) and maybe a lucky deflection for the "eeeediat"

4-0 i predict..i think we will not keep a clean sheet because of the pace of their strikers, but im hopeful.. i think keeping a clean sheet and winning would be better than winning 10-1




and concerning the Juve game, i thought that the game was fairly even, but Juve did not get much chances on goal.. Bayern are extremely lucky that the referee dispossessed Juve just outside their area, which resulted in Bayern's first goal and Abbiati's first howler for Juve.. Juve did not show any signs of fighting back and they were lucky to get a goal.. People described Juve as a machine, all I can tell them now is that all machines start getting slower by time and eventually getting broken! (hopefully :P)

[slicknick]

The line-up I favor would be

Dida

Cafu Stam Maldini Jankulovski

Vogel

Gattuso Kaka Seedorf

Gilardino Shevchenko

P.S. My prediction: Milan 2 -PSV 1

goals from Kaka&Sheva

[sheva-gila]

but we didnt see along time pirlo in action maybe he gonna start tomorrow

[nefremo]

Do not be fulled by Juve's performance tonight. They are still in the top 5 clubs in Europe right now. I expect them to bounce back. Even though you never know when they bounce back because they seem to win their games by boring and not dominating play. They win 1-0, 2-1, penalty here, free kick there, official help and what not. Anyhow, I still think that we will have huge troubles with them.

Back to the MILAN-PSV. I am confident we will win even though I am not confident that we will dominate for long periods of the game, or if at all. PSV is not a team that will sit back, so WE HAVE TO FORCE THEM TO SIT BACK! Milan has to take it to them. Keep going, and going, and going because they dont have what it takes it the back to stop Milan-level forwards. I wish for a clean **** but it will be difficult.

As for the line-up, this are my picks:
------------Dida-------------
Cafu---Stam---Maldini---Serginho
------------Pirlo---------------
---Gattuso----------Sedorf---
----------KAKA--------------
---Vieri----------Shevchenko--

Why Vieri? Even though attacked by many here, I think he only needs a goal. He is very dangerous out there. He is getting where he needs to be and he gets opportunities. I do love Gilardino, and i think that he should be the more frequent starter, however, Vieri has looked really dangerous, its just that he has not scored. The goals will come, and Vieri will be loved by all....even those that call him all kinds of names right now.

As for Pirlo, the man is T-H-E BEST center-mid in the world. He is so unique that I really can not imagine our midfield without him. Yes it is true that he has not had the best of spells lately, but when in form, he is the engine of this team. Milan looks so much more dangerous and more confident in their play when that man is on the field and in decent form. When Pirlo is in form, it is hard to beat Milan. They can only beat themselves...(Liverpool 2005). Vogel is a great player, and honestly, from all the people that have been linked and some brought to Milan to be Pirlo's back ups, Vogel is the best one. I feel confident with having him behind Pirlo. He played great in the last couple of games, but we need to play Pirlo so he can get back to his form. And when he does, (i am sure it will be against PSV), we will go on and crush Juve! :diablo:

Prediction - Milan-PSV - 3:0 (Sheva,Sheva, Vieri)

I hope Rui and Insaghi get a good part of the game. Maybe 30-35 minutes.

Forza Milan!!!

[nefremo]

I am sorry.....I spelled sheet as sh!t so it got blanked out. :grinser: It wont happen again! :grinser:

[mk18]

i hope we start like this:

------------------dida---------------

--cafu---stam-------maldini--kaladze--

----------------pirlo-----------------
----gattuso-------------------------
-----------------------seedorf------
---------------kaka-----------------

-----sheva------------gila----------


and i hope janku could be given playing time in the end


PS: to zlatanov or anyone in the eastcoast of the US, do u know what time the game kicks off??? because i think espn2 show the biggest CL game on wednesday and hopefully its this, please reply asap

[mk18]

mother ****ers!!!!

theyre showing real madrid vs rosenberg!!! ... stoopid idiots!!! havent they head that fookin real isnt the best thing anymore?!

[zlatanov]

i hope we start like this:

------------------dida---------------

--cafu---stam-------maldini--kaladze--

----------------pirlo-----------------
----gattuso-------------------------
-----------------------seedorf------
---------------kaka-----------------

-----sheva------------gila----------


and i hope janku could be given playing time in the end


PS: to zlatanov or anyone in the eastcoast of the US, do u know what time the game kicks off??? because i think espn2 show the biggest CL game on wednesday and hopefully its this, please reply asap

The official kick off time is 2:45 p.m. Eastern Time.
I don't wanna spoil it for you, buddy, but ESPN 2 is showing the Real M - Rosenborg game :(
Here are the TV listings for tomorrow:
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tvlistings/schedule?date=20051019&network=02&sport=all

[zlatanov]

mother ****ers!!!!

theyre showing real madrid vs rosenberg!!! ... stoopid idiots!!! havent they head that fookin real isnt the best thing anymore?!
well, I guess you already saw it by yourself.
ESPN often does this - they show Real M or English teams (ManU and Chelsea) most of the time even if there are far more interesting games. I guess, it is some stupid and ancient marketing policy they have

[hitmannq8]

ESPN Deportes will have the game.

Use www.soccertv.com to find out which channels are broadcasting the game. Im going to be watching it on TLN.

[mk18]

now i have a better reason not to study in the US

[humanTORCH]

PSV gonna play with a 3 man attack. To me this match will prove how great Ancelotti is as a tactician.
Seems like some posters here thought that Milan will have easy task against PSV. It's true that they lost some valuable players during the summer but they still have a great coach whom I admired.

P/S: Waiting for Haroon for his match preview. ;)

[mrki]

Kaladze will start as a LB....

[m3sster]

any online broadcasts? i would appreciate it..

[O_o]

Have fun... And may the best team (PSV obviously :27rr: ) win

[Warro Bantan]

The best team PSV? I think not. Maybe, on a full blue moon, they may be better than Milan, but I dont see one in the lunar forecast.

O o, nice name, but please, be realistic. I know that as a fan, one can be blinded to the obvious, but never fear, watch the game today and be enlightened.

Yes Zlat, no live coverage, except by TLN, which is too far north for my friend with 5 satellite dishes to access, so I will watch it delayed. :crybaby:

FORZA MILAN!!!!

[O_o]

I know Milan has got a much better team than PSV does. But it wouldn't be the first time the Big team loses points vs the small one would it :guw: I just hope Shevchenko has got a really bad day.

[mrki]

I'll watch the game live on Croatian national TV so I can tell you all the details. :5ok:

[rae]

we will slay psv :mex: ... nobody can resist our power :mex: we shall show what are the real champions of UCL :star: and who deserved to be a title holder :mex: :5guitar:

Pippo, segna per noi!

Forza Milan

[Rayno_acm]

I'll watch the game live on Croatian national TV so I can tell you all the details. :5ok:
We'll counton ya! :respect:
Here in Bulgaria will broadcast Chelsea - Betis... :angf:

[rae]

We'll counton ya! :respect:
Here in Bulgaria will broadcast Chelsea - Betis... :angf:... you are lucky mate, cuz in my country there will be no live broadcasts :nunu: :fero:... only relive... after 2 hours when the match is finished... but I will watch it... even though it would be in the middle of the night and I have a exam tomora :de3:

[hitmannq8]

Guys, the game that will be most broadcasted will be the Milan - PSV game!

TLN, ESPN Deportes, Setanta Sports will all be having the game. For all those in montreal, there is a french channel called RDS.. i tend to watch all the home hockey games on that channel and they always put champions league games (usually french teams), but yesterday they had pana vs barca.. today i think they'll put lyon

[Warro Bantan]

From acmilan.com:

HIDDINK: 'We'll play with three strikers'
10/18/2005
MILAN - PSV coach Guus Hiddink held his press conference at the San Siro: 'We'll give Farfan a fitness test. We'll play with three strikers from the start. It's a different situation from last season, we played well and will look to repeat that but look to get the points. We've changed some players but we have a quick side and cannot be underestimated. Different injuries have not gone in our favour. A club like Milan cannot always bring in reinforcements, they bought a great player like Gilardino.'

Three strikers should mean planty of space for Kaka et al to create chances, either on the counter, or in swift attacks arising from posession.

My only concern is eeeeedia.....ok, let me not bring more bad luck to the Austrailian-Italian. Let me in fact, start over, and more positively:

I hope Vieri scores in this game, as it seems as if Carlo will start him alongside Sheva/Gila, though I think it will be Sheva that starts this game over the young Italian international. How was that? More positive? Shoot, I hope so, Vieri needs all the "positivity" he can get/buy/borrow/steal. :D

FORZA MILAN!

[Dr Milano]

Guys, the game that will be most broadcasted will be the Milan - PSV game!

TLN, ESPN Deportes, Setanta Sports will all be having the game. For all those in montreal, there is a french channel called RDS.. i tend to watch all the home hockey games on that channel and they always put champions league games (usually french teams), but yesterday they had pana vs barca.. today i think they'll put lyon
SETANTA SPORTS ARE U MAD IT HAS NEVER SHOWN CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FOOTBALL PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG HERE

[Warro Bantan]

It does Dr Milano...and will actually be showing the Milan V PSV game delayed today.

Remember: There is always a first time for everything (but I believe they showed a previous Milan game this season...vs Fenerbache...though I cant recall exactly.

[pa7uel]

I am at work , and the oynly way to know about the match is by internet, i just got into espndeportes.com and i found a game cast, but its not working yet, i dont know if i would be able to use it because the computer has proxy and it doesnt open some links.

[Rayno_acm]

I am at work , and the oynly way to know about the match is by internet, i just got into espndeportes.com and i found a game cast, but its not working yet, i dont know if i would be able to use it because the computer has proxy and it doesnt open some links.
So do I, if the Bulgarian bTV had broadcasted ACMILAN - psv, I would try to do something, so i could watch the game, but since bTV will broadcast Chelsea - Betis, I didn't do it. I'll do it tomorrow evening, when CSKA Sofia hosts Hamburger.
So today I'll use internet too. :funpc: :hah2: :nunu: Luckily our company do not have any restrictions about surfing in the net (that's our job actually :w262: ), we have restrictions only about downloading.. :rr30: :angf:

[Warro Bantan]

I am at work , and the oynly way to know about the match is by internet, i just got into espndeportes.com and i found a game cast, but its not working yet, i dont know if i would be able to use it because the computer has proxy and it doesnt open some links.

You can get updates on the match at livescore.com....but only scores and yellowcards, not live streaming. Its where I will be, until I leave office to see the delayed coverage.

Anyone know of any streams via net?

[Rayno_acm]

As I know, wecan use www.eurosport.com too, right?

And, is there should be another thread, called "AC MILAN - psv (GAME COMMENTS)" ? :confused:

[pa7uel]

i just saw in their site that ESPN + is showing the match live, maybe at some bar near i can ask if they can put it. Well it might be better if i stay working.....

[hitmannq8]

Setanta sports usually tend to put games that no one have..

The official lineup is:

Dida
Cafu - Stam - Maldini - Kaladze

Gattuso - Pirlo - Seedorf

Kaka

Shevchenko - Vieri

[Dil dil]

Milan should win this game that is for sure . so I think Milan win
2-1 yes we will miss Nesta effort in defence. but I think Milan defence will
do their best job. as on mid filed I hope Ancelotti to not out seefrof in this
important game since he lost his touch. I think Pirlo will do his best as most of time. our attack is best as Sheva will play along with Gila who I'm think
he will do important rule to milan to win. I perfer Vieri in 2 half for Gila and hope he score


Forza Milan

[Warro Bantan]

According to hitmannq8, and SKysports.com, Vieri will...(unfortunately) start:

From:http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=317645&CPID=21&clid=&lid=8&title=Vieri+to+start+against+PSV

"The season is long and this year we have improved in terms of quality. Vieri will play from the beginning," said Ancelotti.

While I am trying to remain positive, and hope that eeee...calm Warro, calm...think happy thoughts...ok...Vieri breaks his duck tonite, I somehow, I see him being replaced by Pippo, or Gila, in the 2nd half.

I guess Carlo feels obligated to play him, after all the money he makes every week. :rollani:

[tbouks02]

Milan/PSV can be seen live on DragonTV(PPLive): pplive://pp1.pplive.com:8000/tracker?source=**7d0f9a10-f9c3-4aae-a2d6-0e54639bc812}&type=udp&chnname=%e4%b8%9c%e6%96%b9%e5%8d%ab%e8%a7%86&engname=Dragontv&tracker=udpt://pp1.pplive.com:8000;tcpt://pp1.pplive.com:8000;tcpt://pp2.pplive.com:8000;

Make sure you have PPLive installed for it to work: http://www.pplive.com/download/PPLiveSetup.exe

[Dr Milano]

It does Dr Milano...and will actually be showing the Milan V PSV game delayed today.

Remember: There is always a first time for everything (but I believe they showed a previous Milan game this season...vs Fenerbache...though I cant recall exactly.
it dont i just checked it in england i have NTL

[Dr Milano]

kaka shoots from center off box but its wide

[Warro Bantan]

From acmilan.com:

3' VIERI VOLLEYS OVER
10/19/2005
Vieri has the first chance after three minutes when he stretchs to volley a quickly-taken Kakà free-kick over the bar. what did you expect? A goal? Be serious! :irritate:

From Eurosport:

8' Kaka gets away down the left...LOOKS UP! SQUARES INTO THE PATH OF VIERI!!!! STABS WIDE!! There was half a challenge from Alex, but the Italy international really should have done so much better Tell me about it!!!! F****** eeediat!

[Warro Bantan]

From alla reports on eurosport, Milan seem to be having the better of the play, with all the attacks coming through Kaka! FORZA KAKA!!!!!!!

[sf_esq]

Could someone please tell me why Vieri is playing? I'd rather see Gilardino or even Pippo play ahead of him. Some people would like to think he will find his form like Crespo did, but I see him as more of a Rivaldo. I wish we would have signed Crespo. At least we seem to be playing well. Forza Milan!

[Bosniaco]

Thank you for the pplive I m watching the game niceeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Warro Bantan]

Could someone please tell me why Vieri is playing? I'd rather see Gilardino or even Pippo play ahead of him. Some people would like to think he will find his form like Crespo did, but I see him as more of a Rivaldo. I wish we would have signed Crespo...
Let me tell you why: Because he is paid MILLIONS of dollars per year (and I hope it will only be the one), and Carlo feels obligated to play him.

@%&/# eeediat Vieri! :irritate:

[Warro Bantan]

Eurosport:

24' Milan corner...this time on the left...AGAIN VIERI THE TARGET! And again, the big man sees the ball headed away from him.

La la la la....think positive thoughts Bantan!

[mk18]

Milan/PSV can be seen live on DragonTV(PPLive): pplive://pp1.pplive.com:8000/tracker?source=**7d0f9a10-f9c3-4aae-a2d6-0e54639bc812}&type=udp&chnname=%e4%b8%9c%e6%96%b9%e5%8d%ab%e8%a7%86&engname=Dragontv&tracker=udpt://pp1.pplive.com:8000;tcpt://pp1.pplive.com:8000;tcpt://pp2.pplive.com:8000;

Make sure you have PPLive installed for it to work: http://www.pplive.com/download/PPLiveSetup.exe

where the hell do i go? its all in chinese or japanese!!!

[daj0]

This game yet to spark into life...Milan look a little sluggish. (eurosport)

hm ....

[daj0]

Kaka trying to take on Simons down the left, but the former Brugge man wins that duel...but concedes a corner.

[sf_esq]

Let me tell you why: Because he is paid MILLIONS of dollars per year (and I hope it will only be the one), and Carlo feels obligated to play him.

@%&/# eeediat Vieri! :irritate:

Unfortunately, you're right...

[daj0]

Corner taken short...DRIFTED IN BY PIRLO! FOR VIERI!!!! Header deflected behind...but then the corner is flighted straight into the hands of Gomes and PSV can clear.

[daj0]

What an untidy game we've had so far...neither keeper has been forced into serious action...even Kaka there having a crack from twenty-five metres but sending the ball flying well wide and high of the PSV goal...to the clear discontent of Carlo Ancelotti

[Warro Bantan]

From acmilan.com:

35' TAME SEEDORF HEADER
10/19/2005
Kakà powers in a shot which Gomes can only parry to Seedorf but from close range the midfielder puts a tame header straight at the goalkeeper.

Come on Seedorf! Dont start your poor run of form just yet!!
FORZA CLARENCE!!!!

[daj0]

GOMES PARRIES A SHOT STRAIGHT INTO THE PATH OF SEEDORF!! OH NO! The Dutchman's attempt to head into the net turns into more of a cushioned nod back to Gomes...PSV escape.

[CuoreRossoNero]

Milan a un passo dal vantaggio: sventola di Kakà, respinta goffa di Gomes e Seedorf da pochi passi di testa manca l'1-0.

So Close to going in front. It appears that we are playing very well.

[mk18]

Milan/PSV can be seen live on DragonTV(PPLive): pplive://pp1.pplive.com:8000/tracker?source=**7d0f9a10-f9c3-4aae-a2d6-0e54639bc812}&type=udp&chnname=%e4%b8%9c%e6%96%b9%e5%8d%ab%e8%a7%86&engname=Dragontv&tracker=udpt://pp1.pplive.com:8000;tcpt://pp1.pplive.com:8000;tcpt://pp2.pplive.com:8000;

Make sure you have PPLive installed for it to work: http://www.pplive.com/download/PPLiveSetup.exe

which channel?!?!??!?!!?

[Warro Bantan]

Scant consolation, but Inter are losing 2-0 to Porto!!!! :dcool:

[Warro Bantan]

From Eurosport:
40' Dida will get some treatment after Robert continued his follow-through to collide with the Brazilian keeper. FORZA DIDA!!!!

[nefremo]

where do you go to watch the game on the link???
Please help. it is all in chinese and stuff.

[Acmir^]

we are not playing so well
we didn't make any serious chance, i hope to see better play in the second half

[NAMMY]

which channel?!?!??!?!!?

Milan/PSV can be seen live on DragonTV(PPLive): pplive://pp1.pplive.com:8000/tracke...plive.com:8000;

The link tbouks02 should work if you click on it (or just select DragonTV from the PPLive menu). Unfortunately, my PPLive isn't working - it keeps saying all channels are busy... :5milan:

You have to download and install PPLive, then you can right click on it's small item (bottom right of screen) and 'switch language'.

[daj0]

This has been such a poor half of football it's untrue...we've seen almost no goalmouth action...and with players of the quality that we've got on show at the San Siro, that's just not good enough...looks like the many thousand who stayed away were right.

[Warro Bantan]

I think daj0 that the fans are upset over ticket prices, so many are boycotting...but indeed, all reports indicate a lack luster affair, with "guess who" wasting our few chances...:depress:

Eurosport:45' Half time in the San Siro...and the even worse news is that it looks like Shevchenko will not be coming out for the second half, making signs to the bench to sub him...let's hope it gets better. Great, just what we needed. :moan:

[Rayno_acm]

I didn't see much, cuz I'm on work, but...
We had some good chances, I think we just miss the final pass. Pirlo was just unlucky in the last minute.
What worries me is that Sheva wanted to be subtituted, he made a sign to Carletto...

[Bosniaco]

I think sheva is comming out injured, he did tell ancellotti to sub him

[hitmannq8]

What a terrible first half.. disgusting performance, even Chievo can play better than how we are playing..

We did have a few chances though.. There was that nice pass from Pirlo that Shevchenko miscontrolled, if he controlled it well it would have been a goal for sure.. Vieri missed a shot from 6 yards (but wasnt easy) in the opening 5 minutes.. Vieri was then invisible and really useless..

Kaka is playing alright, Seedorf is good, although there was a nice Kaka shot that rebounded to Seedorf who could have easily scored, but tried to chip it over the keeper by heading it, but it was soooo slow and soft that it looked like a backpass!.. but overall seedorf is playing a gooood first half.. gattuso is ok.. Cafu? I was his biggest fan, unfortunately, he hasnt put in one good performance this year, and it seems that he is tired always, he cant go running on the right flank anymore like he used to :(.. thats one dimension of our play gone.. stam and maldini are playing good, kaladze is good defensively, but as usual, makes me wanna throw up when he tries to attack..

At the end of the first half there was a nice Pirlo shot to end the first half, it was just a little over. Pirlo is not having a great first half, but not really a terrible one. He's just off-form, that is why we are suffering alot. Sheva also was videod on TV asking Ancelotti to sub, i dont know if it was to sub him, or to sub Vieri, but he looked tired

[Acmir^]

yeah i saw that too f**k
i hope it's not something serious

[devoted_dm]

yeah it would suck to lose Sheva now. But really, why is Inzaghi on the bench and not Gilardino? I can't imagine that Pippo is fit to play 45 minutes in the Champions League yet, and injuries do happen, so why take that chance?

[hitmannq8]

Gila is not on the bench???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[Beuller]

Cafu? I was his biggest fan, unfortunately, he hasnt put in one good performance this year, and it seems that he is tired always, he cant go running on the right flank anymore like he used to :(.. thats one dimension of our play gone..The problem is Gattuso doesn't let Cafu overlap. He is clogging the entire right flank.

[Brasileiro]

The problem is Gattuso doesn't let Cafu overlap. He is clogging the entire right flank.
yes, Beuller...good observation.

[hitmannq8]

Sheva is back on

OMG SEEDORF JUST SHOT AND THE BALL WENT 2 METRES INFRONT OF THE KEEPER BUT SHEVA WENT TO GET IT BUT DIDNT CONTROL IT WELL GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[Bosniaco]

Gila is not on the bench???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Your comments on the game look like we are losing and playing really bad, I don't know if you are watching the game but we didn't play that bad. sheva is back on the field, gila bench.

[CuoreRossoNero]

2' Shevchenko chiede il cambio: è acciaccato al tallone, non ce la fa.

F@$k Sheva is coming off

[Warro Bantan]

The more I see of Carlo in Milan, is the more I realise how unenviable a position he has:

Dont get me wrong, who wouldnt want to Manage a top team like Milan? But when you are not given much say in who comes via transfers into the team.(He couldnt have had much to do with Vieri´s arrival, and if he did, he loses ALL the "cool points" he got for looking so sharp in his Armani coat last term)

You have to feel for Carlo...I am sure he would have preferred to field Sheva and Gila, but he must be under some amount of pressure to play, and I wont hesitate to say it: Eeeeeeediat Vieri, with a F****** capital E.

I mean, you are paying this man, somewhere in the region of 60K per month (I use pounds) for him to miss sitter after sitter, and then you have to come out in a press confrence and say things like: "he will score soon, the reason he hasnt is bad luck" or some similar drivel. How he can say this with a straight face is beyond me, I wonder if he ever thinks about entering the World Champions of Poker tournament? With a face like his, he would win with a 4 of clubs, a 3 of diamonds, a Jack of spades, and a Joker!

Hopefully Sheva´s injury isnt serious, as with Mr I. Miss-Sitters aka the team eeeeediat, we are certain not to score many goals. :moan:

Pippo will take some time to be completely match fit, and if he lasts more than 2 games without another knock, then maybe he can forge a useful partnership with Gila, or even eeeediat Vieri....as long as he scores, and we win, I will be a happy man.

Please Vieri, score in this game, if only to shut me up, and demand some respect from me. Ok, thats all the angst for now, hopefully I will be eating my words, after the game...and singing Vieri´s praises.....and then I woke up...:depress:

[hitmannq8]

WHOOLY**** Sheva couldnt get on the pitch again! he just got subbed and pippo is on!!! PIPPO-VIERI partnership doesnt interest me at all

PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIPO HE CANT STOP RUNNING!! he just got the ball from their defence and all the crowd went wild!!!

[CuoreRossoNero]

oh boy not a good start to this half

[Warro Bantan]

4Eurosport:

49' Milan sub: As expected, Shevchenko cannot carry on and Pippo Inzaghi is on.

46' And the European Footballer of the Year signals immediately to the bench and takes off his right boot...he limps straight off the pitch and that may be the last we see of him.

46' Milan on the attack early....SEEDORF'S SHOT! SPILLED BY GOMES!! SHEVCHENKO FOLLOWING UP!!! But can't force it home...

[hitmannq8]

What A Shot By Kaladze Saved By The Keeper

[Warro Bantan]

Eurosport:

50' A greater sense of urgency about Milan this half...they've bossed possession in the opening five minutes. Good news, now all Vieri has to do is score, and I promise..no more eeeediat before his name!

[hitmannq8]

Inzaghi Missed A Sitter He Completely Miskicked It

[hitmannq8]

daaaaaMN KAKA had another chance to score and he hit it too high! now we are playing well!

[hitmannq8]

another kaka shot but easy.. wow we are playing like the 2003/04 season

[Warro Bantan]

daaaaaMN KAKA had another chance to score and he hit it too high! now we are playing well!

GLAD to hear it! I think the Brazilian, or Seedorf, will score for us tonite...dont think Vieri or the rusty super pippo can manage...though I hope they can! :dcool:

[CuoreRossoNero]

Schalke just tied it up with Fenerbahce 1-1

[hitmannq8]

NICE SHOT SEEDORF BUT saved by the keeper!!!

20 SECONDS LATER BEAUTIFUL SHOT CAFU!! saved by keeper!!!!

SEEDORF-KAKA R playing wonderfulllllllll together!!!!!

[Rayno_acm]

Woooowwwwww
Kaka was so close...
We are just unlucky so far.
I think we will score soon

[Warro Bantan]

Schalke just tied it up with Fenerbahce 1-1 Good news again! What next? A Milan goal? :de3: :de3: :de3:

From: Eurosport

60' SEEDORF STRIKES FROM OUTSIDE THE BOX!! GOMES PUSHES IT AWAY SUPERBLY! Out to Cafu on the right...DRILLS ONE IN! Gomes again gets a touch to turn it round for a corner. Anyone think we should get this keeper when Dida retires? :D

[Bosniaco]

We are bombing PSV but no goal !!!!!!!!

[CuoreRossoNero]

Schalke just took the lead 2-1. A goal from Milan is next

[hitmannq8]

what a dive by inzaghi ahashahahahahah

[CuoreRossoNero]

My crystal ball is telling me that we will score on a penalty shortly

[Rayno_acm]

I want Sergio Claudio dos Santos Serginho in!!!
He knows how to cross, we miss just the final pass...

[Roger Nolli]

Forza Milan!!!! Andiamo!

[hitmannq8]

Serginho On For Seedorf?????? Seedorf Was Playing Great Is Carlo Stupid

[Rayno_acm]

Serginho in!
Please, let somebody in red&black score!!!

[hitmannq8]

vieri the piece of shiiiiiit missed another easy chance by falling..

and omg we missed a golden chance by kaka, stam, pirlo, and serginho

[hitmannq8]

NICE OWRK FROM SERGINHO and nice pass to pippo who dribbles the keeper but its just a bit too far! wins the corner!

[Rayno_acm]

Our players continue to shoot, but with no luck...
May the shot are 25:2 or more...

[hitmannq8]

I CANT BELIEVE KAKA MISSED A SHOT LIKE THE ONE HE JSUT DID! htis is his typical spot to score!!!!!!!

[sf_esq]

Fenerbahce Schalke tied again.

[CuoreRossoNero]

Fenerbahce and Schalke score 3 goals a piece and we can't even muster up 1

[Warro Bantan]

Serginho On For Seedorf?????? Seedorf Was Playing Great Is Carlo Stupid

On the contrary, hitmannq8...Serghino is a better crosser of the ball, and his speed down the flanks should set up a ton load of opportunities for Vieri to waste.

Unless the unlikely happens, and we manage to pass that wall of a goalie they have, we look like drawing this game....at least we are a point ahead of everyone else in the group, but not into the second stage yet....

Come on MILAN!!!!!

[hitmannq8]

whhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy did we get vieri whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[sf_esq]

Vieri = Rivaldo

[Warro Bantan]

whhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy did we get vieri whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

He was free, he is Italian, he was coming from Inter...we were too cheap to spend millions on a young striker...you want more reasons? :510:

[ACMILAN1983]

seems like we're struggling to find our final touch to finish off attacks today. Shame really, but there is still a little time

FORZA MILAN!

[devoted_dm]

Oh **** this! What a stupid decision to use Gila against Cagliari, and Vieri against PSV.

[CuoreRossoNero]

He was free, he is Italian, he was coming from Inter...we were too cheap to spend millions on a young striker...you want more reasons? :510:

In all fairness to the club. Gila did cost us a pretty penny and he's pretty young

[Warro Bantan]

For all those Raul lovers in the audience......he scored Madrid´s go ahead goal for Madrid vs Rosenborg....while Vieri misses chance after chance...and Gila isnt even on the bench..what a joke!

[hitmannq8]

we really really needed gilardino in this game.. game over.. we seem to have cooled the pressure

[sf_esq]

Hey, at least Inter is down 2-0. :gonova:

[Bosniaco]

Vieri looks really bad he just can't score !!!

[Warro Bantan]

In all fairness to the club. Gila did cost us a pretty penny and he's pretty young True, wont argue with that...

Yes, so why pay eeeediat Vieri 60K in pounds sterling per week to miss goals then? Recall Boriello, or keep JDT, as much as I didnt like him, at least he scored, every once in a while...

[hitmannq8]

4 minutes of injury time.. pippo also isnt that sharp.. VIERI IS ABSOLUTELY BULL SHIIIT

[CuoreRossoNero]

True, wont argue with that...

Yes, so why pay eeeediat Vieri 60K in pounds sterling per week to miss goals then? Recall Boriello, or keep JDT, as much as I didnt like him, at least he scored, every once in a while...

No arguement there

[ACMILAN1983]

3mins stoppage time left

time for to hope for the best

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sf_esq]

Javi Moreno was better than Vieri...

[Warro Bantan]

A man with one foot, blind, and hearing impaired (no offense to any handicapped persons out there) is better than EEEEEDIAT Vieri.

[devoted_dm]

Well, at least we're still topping the table.

[Gipson]

Hey, at least Inter is down 2-0. :gonova:
and what? we are milan not inter!

[Rayno_acm]

For all those Raul lovers in the audience......he scored Madrid´s go ahead goal for Madrid vs Rosenborg....while Vieri misses chance after chance...and Gila isnt even on the bench..what a joke!
Warro Bantan, I told you before and I'm telling you again, I DON'T LIKE YOUR COMMENTS!!!
Can you just once to write something possitive???
You're always unhappy...

[CuoreRossoNero]

ALL OVER 0-0. At least we still top the group. Lets just hope that Sheva is okay caus eif he goes down then we are in serious trouble.

[sf_esq]

and what? we are milan not inter!

I'm aware of that. Have a sense of humor.

[slicknick]

:broken: :angf: :angf: :angf: :angf: :5milan: :5milan: :pchate: :pchate: Sooooooo pissed!!!

[sf_esq]

ALL OVER 0-0. At least we still top the group. Lets just hope that Sheva is okay caus eif he goes down then we are in serious trouble.

Did anyone see what happened to Sheva?

[ACMILAN1983]

FT 0-0

Well, not a good score, but looks like we're still looking good in the table (if not great)

As for the crticism of Vieri, the guy has been amongst the best for years and no one can doubt that he looked positive during pre-season. In the end, we have him and its up to the club to try and help him regain his form and that positive goal scoring run he had during the start before the year.

FORZA MILAN!!!!

[Warro Bantan]

GAME OVER. F*** this man...a golden opportunity to go thru to the second round squandered, now we have to go to PSV, after a draw at home...puhleeeeease...I hope the reality that we really have an eeeeediat who is earning megabucks for missing chances finally hits home to Berlu...who I hold PERSONALLY responsible for the aquisition of this ass.

Fener and Schalke scored 6 goals between them, and we couldnt manage 1.

How dismal. Carlo, I feel is partly to blame for his starting 11...didnt like the fact that Seedorf was playing again, after playing much of the match on the weekend, but his performance wasnt that bad,(apparently, from all reports) apart from missing a sitter.

We got our chances, but didnt convert...striker problem anyone? How long will it take for us to give eeeediat Vieri back his contract, and tell him to find another club to exercise his WCup ambitions through?

[Gipson]

Warro Bantan, I told you before and I'm telling you again, I DON'T LIKE YOUR COMMENTS!!!
Can you just once to write something possitive???

In todays game???
Milan played like s**t and thats all!

[mk18]

the only eeediat we have is inzaghi... i fookin hate him!!!
hes a waste of chances, dont even give me his stats cuz i know them, but the guy looks like a rookie when he tries to control the ball, he cant dribble to save his life, he only argues and dives, he cant read what defenders would do, hes selfish, and he by definition looks ridiculous when he plays.

i hope sheva is alright, im sure we wouldve scored if he was in that dumbass' place, vieri was great up until the last 15mins ... he created and he fought while inzaghi gave the ball away. seedorf had a good game, same with gattuso who seemed to learn his lesson and found his determination back, the backline was great, pirlo was kinda dissapointing, kaka was pretty good but shouldve done better on some occasions. i think gila shouldve played, he shouldve come on for sheva not that idiot, inzaghi hasnt played for ages and he plays a whole half??? why??? besides the fact that hes useless he isnt match fit.

[mk18]

In todays game???
Milan played like s**t and thats all!

u got to be kidding... we played great, from what ive seen, we needed sheva or gila there thats all... we commanded the game simply

[MilanPerSempre]

In todays game???
Milan played like s**t and thats all!

They didn't play like s**t at all!!! The only thing that we couldn't do today is scoring! Of course I also know that a team needs to score a goal to win a game, but such games happen once in a while (not only for Milan, for every team). Nobody can be blamed. This happens...the ball just didn't want to enter. Relax guys!

[MilanPerSempre]

u got to be kidding... we played great, from what ive seen, we needed sheva or gila there thats all... we commanded the game simply

Exactly!!!

[killiegradge]

I think it will be easier at PSV.They will have to attack a little as opposed to having 11 men behind the ball.i praised PSV for their performance in the CL semi last year but tonight they just played for a draw.
I predict an easy victory away at PSV.they will not be able to defend as they did and if they attack we will manage a goal or two

[Gipson]

FT 0-0

Well, not a good score, but looks like we're still looking good in the table (if not great)


1. AC Milan 3 5 1-2-0 5-3
2. Fenerbahce 3 4 1-1-1 7-6
3. PSV 3 4 1-1-1 1-3
4. Schalke 04 3 2 0-2-1 5-6

This is not so grate! We have games in Fenerbahce and PSV so it will be fight to the end.

[Dr Milano]

i missed the match i was in mosque praying but i came back and its 0 - 0 oh well at least milan are on top but i had hoped the would have won but oh well i am disapointed though

[Rayno_acm]

In todays game???
Milan played like s**t and thats all!
Yes, IN todays game!!!
We made at least 30 shots, just we hadn't luck, it was matter of inches... :crybaby: :angf:
And we played without Sheva almost 40 minutes.
If you think that is very easy to score, go on the pitch, let us see what you got! :1ang:
The truth is that PSV also have good defence and even more, very good goalie... :groan: :dontkn: :dumpf:

[Gipson]

They didn't play like s**t at all!!! The only thing that we couldn't do today is scoring! Of course I also know that a team needs to score a goal to win a game, but such games happen once in a while (not only for Milan, for every team). Nobody can be blamed. This happens...the ball just didn't want to enter. Relax guys!
We played with PSV not Juve, Barca or Chelsea!!! We need to win that matches.

[Warro Bantan]

Warro Bantan, I told you before and I'm telling you again, I DON'T LIKE YOUR COMMENTS!!!
Can you just once to write something possitive???
You're always unhappy...

:fright: :eekani: Ohhhh I´m sooooo scared Rayno_acm! :1spie: Sorry, but see my post match comments of the match vs Cagliari...matter of fact, let me post the link for you:http://www.milanmania.com/forums/showthread.php?p=328220#post328220 Where is the overwhelming negativity you complain about?

This is a free forum Rayno_acm...and no one is forcing you to read my posts....plus, I have a distinctive avatar...so take a quick glance to the left, and if you see mine, move right along, lest my negative posts cause you to use capitals in your posts referring to me, and cause me sleepless nights as I wonder if you will attack me in some deserted alley in Kingston.

I call it as I see it. Memba dat. (=remember that, for all the non patois speakers in the audience) :D You dont like it, dont read it. Simple. I am not here to please you...listen, dont get me started, worse after such a dismal performance.

Have a nice day.

[Acmir^]

milan didn't playt like s**t, we had a lot of chances but when you have the eeediat Vieri like Warro says, ofcourse you won't score.
Now i'm sorry we sold Tomasson he is far better than the s**t Vieri.
And why Gilardino wasn't on the bench, sometimes Ancelloti makes very stupid deceisons
he should have played

[Gipson]

If you think that is very easy to score, go on the pitch, let us see what you got! :1ang:

What??? I don't earn 5m. euro! And like i said We played with PSV not Juve or Chelsea!

[Dr Milano]

Another draw will change things way too much for my likings we must and must i mean must win next game or itll be hard to qualify ill tell u

[MilanPerSempre]

We played with PSV not Juve, Barca or Chelsea!!! We need to win that matches.

I agree that Milan normally should win such kind of games (tough all teams in Champions League are quite good teams), but that doesn't mean that Milan played like s**t!

[sheva-gila]

sh***t man we simple cant do without sheva and gila i saw the match defence were good but attack i dont know what to say more, how we gonna be the champion im really worried about that, we still look good on the table after fenerbahce draw against shalke.

[lana]

We played well and in support of everyones' comments Vieri shouldn't be on the first team.

[Warro Bantan]

Ok, maybe because my concience is sticking me with a pitchfork:

I may have been negative in my match posts in this thread, but overall, my venom was directed at Vieri and those who brought him here.

We should have won this game easily, but for what I understand to be several EXCELLENT saves from the PSV keeper. Such is life. In Holland, they cant play that defensively, and we should be able to capitalise on the space, hopefully with a fit Sheva, and Gila leading the attack.

How many bets that Gila wont be dropped from the squad again this season?

[Gipson]

And what about Sheva??? I think He is ok?!

[lana]

We should loan or sell off Gila and Vieri.

[mk18]

We played with PSV not Juve, Barca or Chelsea!!! We need to win that matches.

u gotta be kiddin me! ... u mean to tell me PSV is a smaller team than those?

[mk18]

We should loan or sell off Gila and Vieri.
ur sick in the head

[Gipson]

u gotta be kiddin me! ... u mean to tell me PSV is a smaller team than those?
They lost 10 players from last year and YES psv is a smaller team than those teams!

[slicknick]

Why? Relax guys... I like our striking duo Inzaghi and Vieri. I actually think they are the best...Vieri has the touch of an elephant, and Inzaghi has the deadliness of a gold fish. I think they are simply amaaaazing.
I like them both. Actually, they both got offered great contracts by Circus Medrano over the summer, but Milan was swift enough to maintain Inzaghi in the team and snap Vieri up by offering them better contracts.
That is all they are good for and just for that alone, you have got to love them...

BOBO THE BEAR

http://www.armory.com/~alexia/trip/moscow/circus2.html


PIPPO THE HIPPO

http://www.creatableinflatables.com/images/circus/inflatable_dancing_hippo.jpg

[Rayno_acm]

:fright: :eekani: Ohhhh I´m sooooo scared Rayno_acm! :1spie: Sorry, but see my post match comments of the match vs Cagliari...matter of fact, let me post the link for you:http://www.milanmania.com/forums/showthread.php?p=328220#post328220 Where is the overwhelming negativity you complain about?

This is a free forum Rayno_acm...and no one is forcing you to read my posts....plus, I have a distinctive avatar...so take a quick glance to the left, and if you see mine, move right along, lest my negative posts cause you to use capitals in your posts referring to me, and cause me sleepless nights as I wonder if you will attack me in some deserted alley in Kingston.

I call it as I see it. Memba dat. (=remember that, for all the non patois speakers in the audience) :D You dont like it, dont read it. Simple. I am not here to please you...listen, dont get me started, worse after such a dismal performance.

Have a nice day.
Be sure, stupid a$$hole, I very rarely read your posts, cuz I know that they contain only bullsh!ts and nothing more! :d55: :rocky: :r14:
This time I had no choice, you wrote them in the game thread...
So do not try to make like you are "wise guy", it useless... :5130:

[sheva-gila]

thay lost some players but they are still psv the same tacktic hiddink said that thay gonna play with 3 strikers but they played defence game including some great saves form psv kepper

[Gipson]

Be sure, stupid a$$hole, I very rarely read your posts, cuz I know that they contain only bullsh!ts and nothing more! :d55: :rocky: :r14:
This time I had no choice, you wrote them in the game thread...
So do not try to make like you are "wise guy", it useless... :5130:
Relax don't attack posters.

[mk18]

They lost 10 players from last year and YES psv is a smaller team than those teams!
this post is an excellent reason for me to ignore u... obviously u have no football intelegence

[Gipson]

this post is an excellent reason for me to ignore u... obviously u have no football intelegence
You break My heart :(
So why do You think that PSV is equal or better than Chelsea???

[Milanium]

It just wasn't our day... I think we've played the best so far, even Seedorf was playing tremendously, and Pirlo was magnificent, we dominated all the 2nd half to our whims, defense at set pieces was inmaculate, and a hurricane of shots at post... But as I said, it simply wasn't our day...

[sheva-gila]

so whan its gonna be our day ??? i just go crazy whan i think that fenerbahce outplayed psv 3-0 and we didnt

[Milanium]

so whan its gonna be our day ???
I don't know but it's kinda looking closer. :dontkn: If we'd just get a little luckier... :sagrin:

[mk18]

You break My heart :(
So why do You think that PSV is equal or better than Chelsea???

beh ur hillarious...


i tihnk chelsea are better than psv but that doesnt make psv easier to beat, and as for barca and juve, id say the same thing about juve, but barca arent doing really well, does that mean we should kill them when we play them???


u cant always win games, and psv have been one of the worlds best clubs for the past 5 seasons, id say theyre as good as lyon, and if u dont find them hard to beat then i dont think theres a point discussing this with u

oh and chelsea, barca, and juve when unlucky infront of goal like we were today wouldnt beat psv. it happens, deal with it

[Brasileiro]

Ok, maybe because my concience is sticking me with a pitchfork:

I may have been negative in my match posts in this thread, but overall, my venom was directed at Vieri and those who brought him here.

We should have won this game easily, but for what I understand to be several EXCELLENT saves from the PSV keeper. Such is life. In Holland, they cant play that defensively, and we should be able to capitalise on the space, hopefully with a fit Sheva, and Gila leading the attack.

How many bets that Gila wont be dropped from the squad again this season?
I agree...of course, playing in our home, we need to win. But some people are forgeting that PSV is not a S**T squad. This year PSV is more weak in mid and attack, but not in defence. Said this, we create several chances, and Gomes(as last year) made great saves...In Holland they can´t play defensively, but also they will test our defence more...and we better not to forget that they are great in seat pieces...

[mk18]

so whan its gonna be our day ??? i just go crazy whan i think that fenerbahce outplayed psv 3-0 and we didnt

dont b!tch about it... football isnt meant to be won by favs always... we werent lucky so what?! its not like were not topping the group

[MilanPerSempre]

By the way.... Did somebody see the third goal of Schalke 04 against Fenerbahçe? :ilol:

[Rayno_acm]

You break My heart :(
So why do You think that PSV is equal or better than Chelsea???
Only a person, who have never played football can say somethinglike that... :rollani:
There's no need to be egual or better to win in one particular game, just remember May 2005, Istanbul, L'pool wasn't (and still is not..) equal or better than us, but they got the Trophy as I know...If you want another examples, just say, I'll give much more... :rollani:

[Gipson]

beh ur hillarious...


i tihnk chelsea are better than psv but that doesnt make psv easier to beat, and as for barca and juve, id say the same thing about juve, but barca arent doing really well, does that mean we should kill them when we play them???


u cant always win games, and psv have been one of the worlds best clubs for the past 5 seasons, id say theyre as good as lyon, and if u dont find them hard to beat then i dont think theres a point discussing this with u

oh and chelsea, barca, and juve when unlucky infront of goal like we were today wouldnt beat psv. it happens, deal with it
I know that Milan can't always win and thats ok! But Milan should score in that matches! For Me this years PSV is NOT a big team.

[Warro Bantan]

:neww: :hah2: Be sure, stupid a$$hole, I very rarely read your posts, cuz I know that they contain only bullsh!ts and nothing more! :d55: :rocky: :r14:
This time I had no choice, you wrote them in the game thread...
So do not try to make like you are "wise guy", it useless... :5130:

Muhahahahahahaha! You are funny! You always have a choice!

I shouldnt even dignify the above with a comment, but I will say:so a man thinketh, so is he.

This one I had to say though: I very rarely read..that is obvious! :haha:

Oh, and as me trying to "make like...a "wise guy""....LOL...I dunno, should I even bother...naah you arent worth it.

But do, have a nice day!

And leave me alone, please. Thanks for your kind cooperation. Remember, personal attacks arent tolerated around here.

[mk18]

yeah for u...

we werent able to score... **** happens!!! ... well score some other time... i can understand if we lost a 4 goal lead and lost the game and got kicked out of the CL... but we dominated today, and we were just unlucky and we still top the group

[Franco6]

We made a great game but no goals. The defence looked very solid today and Gattuso turned out to be the real Gattuso. Let's really hope that Sheva has nothing serious.
Questiona and request to Ancelotti. Why on earth was Gilardino sitting in the VIP area and not at least on the bench? Can you please not play vieri any longer. Today he was like a bag of potatos He was slow and lost e every ball. Inzaghi on the contrary gave everything and fought like a lion

[MilanPerSempre]

I know that Milan can't always win and thats ok! But Milan should score in that matches! For Me this years PSV is NOT a big team.

Yeh, Milan should have scored in this game. Definately! But, as I told u before, this kind of games can happen.
Yesterday evening I watched Rapid Vienna against Club Bruges. Rapid had plenty of chances... they should have scored 5 or 6 times, but they didn't. And at the end of the game, they lost... 0-1!
Maybe Rapid Vienna is not a worldclass team (I agree), but I just wanna say that it can happen with every team!

[Gipson]

Only a person, who have never played football can say somethinglike that... :rollani:
There's no need to be egual or better to win in one particular game, just remember May 2005, Istanbul, L'pool wasn't (and still is not..) equal or better than us, but they got the Trophy as I know...If you want another examples, just say, I'll give much more... :rollani:
1. I played football
2. I know that and I don't know why You are talking that?! I just write that Chelsea is better than PSV and You think another way???

[Rayno_acm]

:neww: :hah2:

Muhahahahahahaha! You are funny! You always have a choice!

I shouldnt even dignify the above with a comment, but I will say:so a man thinketh, so is he.

This one I had to say though: ..that is obvious! :haha:

Oh, and as me trying to "make like...a "wise guy""....LOL...I dunno, should I even bother...naah you arent worth it...

...And leave me alone, please. Thanks for your kind cooperation. Remember, personal attacks arent tolerated around here..
Really??? How should I didn't know??? In this case I want to ask how could you be tolerated, as you every time ATTACK Milan players? Today was Vieri, before that Pirlo, Ambro, etc.
You talking about worth? Man, there's nothing in you, that have at least little worth. Shame on you, that you call yourself "Milan fan", for me it sound like an offend... :rollani:

[sheva-gila]

man here we are to talk about milan and no critisize porsons here and and talkin that who played football and who not

[Milanium]

I know that Milan can't always win and thats ok! But Milan should score in that matches! For Me this years PSV is NOT a big team.

But we subdued 'em, dominated 'em, played with 'em like clay... but we were just reeeeaalllly unlucky, probably it is the package that comes with Vieri all along, I dunno :mute:

[mk18]

We made a great game but no goals. The defence looked very solid today and Gattuso turned out to be the real Gattuso. Let's really hope that Sheva has nothing serious.
Questiona and request to Ancelotti. Why on earth was Gilardino sitting in the VIP area and not at least on the bench? Can you please not play vieri any longer. Today he was like a bag of potatos He was slow and lost e every ball. Inzaghi on the contrary gave everything and fought like a lion
oh god, i hope ur joking! ... id blame vieri but only for the last 15mins, i agree he was lazy during that period, but from what ive seen before that he was one of our most dangerous players...

inzaghi is a waste, when inzaghi comes on i get that feeling everyone here gets when were not winning and roque jr or laursen come on... as if we have a man down, hes a waste of chances, i dont care about his record, he cant dribble, he cant control a ball, he can read what defenders would do, and hes only good for arguing and hogging the ball and diving

[Acmir^]

By the way.... Did somebody see the third goal of Schalke 04 against Fenerbahçe? :ilol:


Yeah f**king hilarious, the goalkeeper missed the boal :dielaugh:

[hitmannq8]

the only eeediat we have is inzaghi... i fookin hate him!!!
hes a waste of chances, dont even give me his stats cuz i know them, but the guy looks like a rookie when he tries to control the ball, he cant dribble to save his life, he only argues and dives, he cant read what defenders would do, hes selfish, and he by definition looks ridiculous when he plays.

i hope sheva is alright, im sure we wouldve scored if he was in that dumbass' place, vieri was great up until the last 15mins ... he created and he fought while inzaghi gave the ball away. seedorf had a good game, same with gattuso who seemed to learn his lesson and found his determination back, the backline was great, pirlo was kinda dissapointing, kaka was pretty good but shouldve done better on some occasions. i think gila shouldve played, he shouldve come on for sheva not that idiot, inzaghi hasnt played for ages and he plays a whole half??? why??? besides the fact that hes useless he isnt match fit.


You cant be serious.. VIERI HAS BEEEN A PIECE OF SHIIT for milan ever since he joined.. dont give me that crap and tell me Pippo played bad and Vieri didnt.. when Pippo came on all he did is run and get into position, what the hell did vieri do?

Anyway, before the game, i did state that we must try to rest SHeva because he might get injured by overusing him, and guess what happened:( .. Gila would have been REALLY REALLY more useful to us than either of Vieri or Inzaghi... Kaka was terrible in finishing today but played great, so did Seedorf.. Serginho came on and gave a bit of help..

You know what else pisses me off guys? In pre-season we tried the 3-man defence for soooooooo long and especially for those teams that came to San Siro to defend, I cannot believe that we have not used that formation ONCE !!!!!!!!!!! he should have removed Cafu and put in a Jankulovski and move Kaladze to a centre back.. Seedorf should not have been removed because he and Kaka played great together..Although we did lack alot of quality and runs down the left flank, Seedorf played great today.. We really missed Sheva towards the end :(

[Rayno_acm]

1. I played football
2. I know that and I don't know why You are talking that?! I just write that Chelsea is better than PSV and You think another way???
I wanted to say that even PSV can beat Chelsea if they have a good day and enough luck...
Nobody is unbeatable, right? :rollani:

[mk18]

u c this is why i think milan shouldve sold inzaghi and got a speedy striker like cassano or di vaio instead. pairing 2 of inzaghi/vieri/gila would work in 1 in a million chance, 2 big strikers/poachers rarely work, while 2 fast strikers like sheva and cassano would work, the best is a speedy and big striker pair

[Franco6]

inzaghi is a waste, when inzaghi comes on i get that feeling everyone here gets when were not winning and roque jr or laursen come on... as if we have a man down, hes a waste of chances, i dont care about his record, he cant dribble, he cant control a ball, he can read what defenders would do, and hes only good for arguing and hogging the ball and diving

And what did vieri do? This is not vieri's 1st game, vs Reggina he could have scored 3 but he didn't get 1. Today he did NOTHING, in the 1st half he 'shone' a bit cuz there was Sheva helping and taking 2 men after him. Inzagh is a waste then vieri is to be dumped.

[sheva-gila]

I totally agree with you u know vieri when he gonna score maybe i repeat maybe after 1000000 chances sory for thhis but i said that of m y broken heart today

[Gipson]

inzaghi is a waste, when inzaghi comes on i get that feeling everyone here gets when were not winning and roque jr or laursen come on... as if we have a man down, hes a waste of chances, i dont care about his record, he cant dribble, he cant control a ball, he can read what defenders would do, and hes only good for arguing and hogging the ball and diving
Yes but Pippo is not 100% fit and thats Carlo mistake to play Him! Gila should be on the bench or Rui should played in second half(for Sheva)

[mk18]

You cant be serious.. VIERI HAS BEEEN A PIECE OF SHIIT for milan ever since he joined.. dont give me that crap and tell me Pippo played bad and Vieri didnt.. when Pippo came on all he did is run and get into position, what the hell did vieri do?

dont give me that crap??? .... who the f*ck are u to tell me that? ... if anyone who gives crap its u, a 100-0 scoreline wouldnt satisfy ur whinning a$$

and yeah all pippo did was run, like headless chicken, no good for nothing, vieri did set up some chances and looked more promising with the ball at his feet, once the ball was 2 meteres from inzaghi i knew he would do something to mess it up.

Anyway, before the game, i did state that we must try to rest SHeva because he might get injured by overusing him, and guess what happened:( .. Gila would have been REALLY REALLY more useful to us than either of Vieri or Inzaghi... Kaka was terrible in finishing today but played great, so did Seedorf.. Serginho came on and gave a bit of help..

wow, ur special, u genius you!

You know what else pisses me off guys? In pre-season we tried the 3-man defence for soooooooo long and especially for those teams that came to San Siro to defend, I cannot believe that we have not used that formation ONCE !!!!!!!!!!! he should have removed Cafu and put in a Jankulovski and move Kaladze to a centre back.. Seedorf should not have been removed because he and Kaka played great together..Although we did lack alot of quality and runs down the left flank, Seedorf played great today.. We really missed Sheva towards the end :(

thats the only true thing u wrote, but cafu shouldve stayed, pirlo shouldve been taken off, and seedorf would take his place or the right whie gattuso comes towards the center and janku on the left

[mrki]

After seing this game I have to say Im disapionted with our poor and slow passing and not enough quality crosses.
dida - played well
cafu - good in defence but lost his power in the last 10 minutes, in the first half he didnt recieve any good balls. Too little good crosses and runs. He doesnt look as good as last year
KALADZE -simply he cant dribble or cross well....MArek?? CArlo will say Marek hasnt played enough, this way he had the chance to put him in in 60th minute and go for the win. Kaladze was poor on the offensive
MALDINI - perfect
STAM - excellent game
PIRLO - worst on the pitch. He cant cross, didnt do any good runs, didnt play the defence well. its like he doesnt try!!! IM disgusted!! played maybe 3 good balls and thats it, if he doesnt wanna leave his heart on the pitch for milan, he doesnt have to play. This is not pirlo from last season, no power at all
SEEDORF - played surprisingly good game. Maybe he lacks a little bit speed ans wide playing , but he is ok. Needs to do more crosses and presize passes
GATTUSO - good old rino. Played great in defence, played poor up front. Cant cross, cant pass, cant shoot. Useless when he has the ball. Still, very good game by Gattuso.
KAKA - runs a lot, maybe lacked some finishing. Still he is the real futire of milan
VIERI - he did run and gave his best, but his best is not good enough. I would give my best too, can I play for Milan mr. Ancelotti?? Vieri is a player that doesnt deserve to be in the first 11. ( sheva,gila,pippo,trezeguet,ibrahimovic,del piero,mutu,zalayeta). Is he better than ayn of them?? And the most important thing , he didnt won any air duels against Alex...poor
SHEVA - lets just hope he isnt badly injured
PIPPO - needs more time to find speed and touch. He can play for 30 min at most
SERGINHO - same as always


And, the question is......GILARDINO??? We payed 24 mil for him. He is really a top class player who can certanly play 5 matcher in a row. Carlo says he is resting him.... From what?? From Cagliari game?? Gila played maybe 55- 60 % of our matches, no more! And he is resting 23 year old striker??? Just so that he can see Vieri going into form. Crespo was a different situation, he had touch, shoved class. Vieri is slow like elephand, no touch, cant move at right time. Gila is a killer, with sheva he can score million goals, but NO.......Carlo has other things in mind....
JANKULOVSKY......After PSV closed up on 60th minute, Marek would be a lot better than Kaladze on the LB. He can really cross and dribble. We bught himn to be our new LB and now ( and he is not injuerd any more), he doesnt play at all. I doubt he will play against Palermo too. Im gonna have a heart attack becouse of these tactics.....
Passing is too damn SLOW!! This team plays together for 3-4 years now and this season I havent seen one trained combination! What about offenssive corner kicks?? What kind of crossing is that?? this sucks, no pressure at all, no real pressure. Against defensive teams ilke PSV today, you cant do everything through the middle...and pirlo,seedorf,kaka do just that. Cafu diodnt do any really dangerous runs ( good shot dough), kaladze cant cross dangerously.....More than few things need to be done in here....

[Acmir^]

Stop arguing who is better Inzaghi or Vieri, they both suck.

[MilanPerSempre]

I think today we can't say: 'this player can't score a goal, or this player can't score' .... Many Milan players had chances today to score. Seedorf, Kaka, Shevchenko, Vieri, Inzaghi....but nobody could get the ball in the net. Let's accept that this was an unlucky evening for the rossoneri. And let's look forward to Sunday. Palermo will be a difficult opponent again!

[mk18]

And what did vieri do? This is not vieri's 1st game, vs Reggina he could have scored 3 but he didn't get 1. Today he did NOTHING, in the 1st half he 'shone' a bit cuz there was Sheva helping and taking 2 men after him. Inzagh is a waste then vieri is to be dumped.

yeah but with ur instinct, u get the feeling that once vieri scores hell do so more often, and he has a better touch on the ball, he can set up players, inzaghi is too selfish to do so and even if he did hell ruin it, like that set up for serginho who was running into the box in the end, what the hell was that?? everyone with half a brain knows that the return should be soft and way ahead of a player whos flying towards the ball, what does pippo do??? he smacks it right towards sergio and he cant control it and ends up tripping on it, i know vieri would set that up normally

[hitmannq8]

dont give me that crap??? .... who the f*ck are u to tell me that? ... if anyone who gives crap its u, a 100-0 scoreline wouldnt satisfy ur whinning a$$



haha look whos talking..

the guy who wants us to buy alex, chivu, kompany, oddo all together at the same day.. i do whine yes i admit it, it makes me feel better, but dont act as if your mr perfect.. these are things clear to the eye

and if anything about today, i thinkk this was our best performance in a veryyyyyy long time.. especially in the second half.. all im whining about is this piece of shyt vieri.. all he has done is miss goals and oppurtinities, none of the chances he missed before counted because we ended up winning the game.. today, it mattered cuz we dropped points, that is why he is going to get flamed most of the people

and oh my god ANCELOTTI LEAVING GILA IN THE STANDS!! that is absolutely terrible!!! All he is bragging about these days is how succesfful is his rotation.. if he really used rotation with everyone, how come Sheva is starting every single game without getting a rest? I mean, i really saw his injury coming.. Carlo should at least started with Gila-Vieri, and then Pippo coming in if we were winning, or Sheva coming on if we needed a goal.. and why didnt we see Jankulovski? We all know how good he is on going forward and assisting, we had 1 substitution left towards the end, why didnt we remove Cafu when he got tired? or Gattuso or Pirlo?

[mk18]

After seing this game I have to say Im disapionted with our poor and slow passing and not enough quality crosses.
dida - played well
cafu - good in defence but lost his power in the last 10 minutes, in the first half he didnt recieve any good balls. Too little good crosses and runs. He doesnt look as good as last year
KALADZE -simply he cant dribble or cross well....MArek?? CArlo will say Marek hasnt played enough, this way he had the chance to put him in in 60th minute and go for the win. Kaladze was poor on the offensive
MALDINI - perfect
STAM - excellent game
PIRLO - worst on the pitch. He cant cross, didnt do any good runs, didnt play the defence well. its like he doesnt try!!! IM disgusted!! played maybe 3 good balls and thats it, if he doesnt wanna leave his heart on the pitch for milan, he doesnt have to play. This is not pirlo from last season, no power at all
SEEDORF - played surprisingly good game. Maybe he lacks a little bit speed ans wide playing , but he is ok. Needs to do more crosses and presize passes
GATTUSO - good old rino. Played great in defence, played poor up front. Cant cross, cant pass, cant shoot. Useless when he has the ball. Still, very good game by Gattuso.
KAKA - runs a lot, maybe lacked some finishing. Still he is the real futire of milan
VIERI - he did run and gave his best, but his best is not good enough. I would give my best too, can I play for Milan mr. Ancelotti?? Vieri is a player that doesnt deserve to be in the first 11. ( sheva,gila,pippo,trezeguet,ibrahimovic,del piero,mutu,zalayeta). Is he better than ayn of them?? And the most important thing , he didnt won any air duels against Alex...poor
SHEVA - lets just hope he isnt badly injured
PIPPO - needs more time to find speed and touch. He can play for 30 min at most
SERGINHO - same as always


And, the question is......GILARDINO??? We payed 24 mil for him. He is really a top class player who can certanly play 5 matcher in a row. Carlo says he is resting him.... From what?? From Cagliari game?? Gila played maybe 55- 60 % of our matches, no more! And he is resting 23 year old striker??? Just so that he can see Vieri going into form. Crespo was a different situation, he had touch, shoved class. Vieri is slow like elephand, no touch, cant move at right time. Gila is a killer, with sheva he can score million goals, but NO.......Carlo has other things in mind....
JANKULOVSKY......After PSV closed up on 60th minute, Marek would be a lot better than Kaladze on the LB. He can really cross and dribble. We bught himn to be our new LB and now ( and he is not injuerd any more), he doesnt play at all. I doubt he will play against Palermo too. Im gonna have a heart attack becouse of these tactics.....
Passing is too damn SLOW!! This team plays together for 3-4 years now and this season I havent seen one trained combination! What about offenssive corner kicks?? What kind of crossing is that?? this sucks, no pressure at all, no real pressure. Against defensive teams ilke PSV today, you cant do everything through the middle...and pirlo,seedorf,kaka do just that. Cafu diodnt do any really dangerous runs ( good shot dough), kaladze cant cross dangerously.....More than few things need to be done in here....

u got everything the opposite... how can u say kaladze had a bad game??? ur one of those wholl never accept him no matter how good he plays, rino was great and theres no need to mention what he did offensivly because really he did good... i would give bad games to pirlo and inzaghi only

[Warro Bantan]

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Really??? How should I didn't know??? In this case I want to ask how could you be tolerated, as you every time ATTACK Milan players? Today was Vieri, before that Pirlo, Ambro, etc.
You talking about worth? Man, there's nothing in you, that have at least little worth. Shame on you, that you call yourself "Milan fan", for me it sound like an offend... :rollani:

First of all...there you go reading my posts again! Whats the reason this time?

And please explain: How should I didn't know??..That makes no sense, in any language. :dontkn:

Attack Milan players? Lets see...show me one post where I have attacked Pirlo..please.

I do recall on occasion, criticizing Ambro, but this term, I have been singing his praises, but I believe you are a selective reader Snr. Rayno_acm. :1avs:

I call it as I see it. I called Bierhoff..Bierfool, as thats what I thought of him. I critcize players, on occasion, like Rino, whom...and check the Dr Milano thread re Gattuso...and you will see that I can still give praise, when its due.

I sing at least one hymn to Sheva every morning, but I, according to you:
every time ATTACK Milan players...and if I did, is it against the law?

Maldini has a whole chapter of the hymn book dedicated to him, as did Seedorf in the past, and Rui Costa when both were invaluable contributors to our UCL trophy. Yet, even with Clarence´s dip in form, I challenge you to show me one post where I was as critical of him, as I am of eeeediat Vieri!

When people in here were screaming for Carlo´s head post the "Insanity in Istanbul", I didnt, instead, I pleaded for calm.

Now, tell me honestly (since you are obvioulsy not taking my advice, and are still reading my bullsh!t posts) did Vieri have a wonderful game today? Does he deserve an ounce of critique? Or a pound of praise?

Notice, I didnt "attack" Pippo, after his missed chances......shooot, I am just happy the man is back, and if he was on the bench instead of Gila, than that is a mistake by Carlo, but am I spewing venom on Carletto? Maybe in your warped version of the world, but not in mine.

As to worth, several people, many in fact, could dispute that fact with you, but...needless to say, it matters not what you think of me, as when last I checked, you were not signing my paycheck. :nana: So put that in your pipe and smoke it, Mr "I Sing Milan Players Praises All The Time"!

And by the way, continue to have, a nice day.

[Acmir^]

I think today we can't say: 'this player can't score a goal, or this player can't score' .... Many Milan players had chances today to score. Seedorf, Kaka, Shevchenko, Vieri, Inzaghi....but nobody could get the ball in the net. Let's accept that this was an unlucky evening for the rossoneri. And let's look forward to Sunday. Palermo will be a difficult opponent again!


Yeah nice said you sometimes need luck to win, that's it.

[Warro Bantan]

ANCELOTTI LEAVING GILA IN THE STANDS!! that is absolutely terrible!!! All he is bragging about these days is how succesfful is his rotation.. if he really used rotation with everyone, how come Sheva is starting every single game without getting a rest? I mean, i really saw his injury coming.. Carlo should at least started with Gila-Vieri, and then Pippo coming in if we were winning, or Sheva coming on if we needed a goal.. and why didnt we see Jankulovski? We all know how good he is on going forward and assisting, we had 1 substitution left towards the end, why didnt we remove Cafu when he got tired? or Gattuso or Pirlo?

My sentiments exactly. Another poor mark for Carlo...but let me stop there, lest I be accused of ATTACKING Milan players and the coach!

[hitmannq8]

Kaladze played well defensively, but is disgusting in going forward. Jankulovski is 5 times better than him. He also had a wonderful shot on goal.

Inzaghi did not play bad at all. Even if he did, he only had 45 minutes to score, Vieri had 90. Can you tell me one good thing Vieri did good all game? He did pass 3 or 4 balls by coming back, receiving, and passing, but thats nothing too special, anyone could do that.

[Rayno_acm]

... how come Sheva is starting every single game without getting a rest? I mean, i really saw his injury coming...
Sheva himself said after the game vs Cagliari, that he is not tired yet and he could play without resting... :rollani:

[mk18]

haha look whos talking..

the guy who wants us to buy alex, chivu, kompany, oddo all together at the same day.. i do whine yes i admit it, it makes me feel better, but dont act as if your mr perfect.. these are things clear to the eye

ur talking out of ur a$$ ... are u drugged because im the only one here who doesnt think we should go shopping crazy, kompany?? i just said i hope juve buy hi for over 20M and its not because i like juve

oddo?? i always liked him, just like how u were bitching about cicnho, and im not dying for him to come, im just saying hed be a good addition for a good price

alex? u saw him today, hes a great defender, and i said either him or chivu

besides wasnt it u who wants us to buy half the defenders in the world??
funny, ur making **** up and at the same time ur contradicting urself

im not acting as if im mr.perfect, im just talking this way because i seem to be one of the few ones here who are realistic, u belong to the craz group, who still need time to mature, to understand how football is run, that there are limitations to the transfer market, that there comes some goods along with bads and visa versa, and lastly that theres no use in whinning because it gets u nowhere... i may be 18 but i honestly feel ive reached a level of maturity concerning football and milan especially thats higher than most people here. and thats just being honest and confident, and not self centered.

[Gipson]

At the end We lost 2p.(or earn 1p) and thats only counts! Now lets relax and wait for Palermo game. And STOP :punch:
FORZA MILAN!!!

[hitmannq8]

mk18, you are arrogant, thats what you are :)

http://www.latestgoals.net/upload/9vtaliym4pvk.zip here are the highlights of the game for anyone wants to see HOW STUPID vieri is

[Rayno_acm]

...I sing at least one hymn to Sheva every morning, but I, according to you:
...and if I did, is it against the law?

Maldini has a whole chapter of the hymn book dedicated to him, as did Seedorf in the past, and Rui Costa when both were invaluable contributors to our UCL trophy.

Well, you respect more than one ACMILAN player? I have to admit, this is something new for me! You know, I told ya, I very rarely read your posts... :1d31: :nana:

[mrki]

u got everything the opposite... how can u say kaladze had a bad game??? ur one of those wholl never accept him no matter how good he plays, rino was great and theres no need to mention what he did offensivly because really he did good... i would give bad games to pirlo and inzaghi only


No, no! I said KAladze had a bad offensive game...he was ok in defence, but you cant say he did well in attack.....Rino? I said what is true. He is very good defensively, but sucks in attack, its smply the truth. I like Rino but you cant say he contributet much on upgrading our attack.

[mk18]

Kaladze played well defensively, but is disgusting in going forward. Jankulovski is 5 times better than him. He also had a wonderful shot on goal.

Inzaghi did not play bad at all. Even if he did, he only had 45 minutes to score, Vieri had 90. Can you tell me one good thing Vieri did good all game? He did pass 3 or 4 balls by coming back, receiving, and passing, but thats nothing too special, anyone could do that.

disguisting going forward?? ... man whats up with u and the vocabulry, ur no better than anyone to say that, especially when u wrong, maybe ancelotti didnt want kaladze to go forward, it was his job to do so when we won the CL because our left flank was our only attacking side, we didnt have cafu on the right so it was pretty mch dead, what if kaladze keeps going forward and we get caught on the attack and they score??? ull blame him for leaving out to much space and dont deny it, its the sort of person u are!! as for janku, im the 1st one to say he should have played but not on the expence of kaladze who was doing well, and certainly not as a starter, 'u saw shevas injury coming' but facts prove that chances that if janku started he wouldve got injured more than those of sheva, he hasnt played for months.

and u dont calculate whos better by the time they played, im telling u vieri played well for 75 mins, his last 15 were horrible, but he did contribute, inzaghi in his 45 mins not only didnt do anything, he made things easier for psv, he ruins so many attacks for us and i bet the psv defence had this big smile on their faces when sheva left for inzaghi

[mk18]

No, no! I said KAladze had a bad offensive game...he was ok in defence, but you cant say he did well in attack.....Rino? I said what is true. He is very good defensively, but sucks in attack, its smply the truth. I like Rino but you cant say he contributet much on upgrading our attack.

some players arent put there for their attacking abilities, i just said my opinion on kaladze and u can read it there.

hitmanq8, im not gonna give what u said any consideration simply because its coming from u. and thats not a good thing btw

[hitmannq8]

disguisting going forward?? ... man whats up with u and the vocabulry, ur no better than anyone to say that, especially when u wrong, maybe ancelotti didnt want kaladze to go forward, it was his job to do so when we won the CL because our left flank was our only attacking side, we didnt have cafu on the right so it was pretty mch dead, what if kaladze keeps going forward and we get caught on the attack and they score??? ull blame him for leaving out to much space and dont deny it, its the sort of person u are!! as for janku, im the 1st one to say he should have played but not on the expence of kaladze who was doing well, and certainly not as a starter, 'u saw shevas injury coming' but facts prove that chances that if janku started he wouldve got injured more than those of sheva, he hasnt played for months.

and u dont calculate whos better by the time they played, im telling u vieri played well for 75 mins, his last 15 were horrible, but he did contribute, inzaghi in his 45 mins not only didnt do anything, he made things easier for psv, he ruins so many attacks for us and i bet the psv defence had this big smile on their faces when sheva left for inzaghi

Kaladze did go forward and tried to dribble and do fancy stuff, but lost the ball so easily.. and often does that, that is why i say he is disgusting in doing that. And no, Ancelotti did not tell him to sit back, because he kept trying to attack and felt he doesnt know how to so he decided not to humiliate himself and stick to the things he can do.

And no Vieri did not play 75 minutes well, you are wrong AGAIN. You always think that what you think is correct and everyone else is wrong. I always give my opinion and say Vieri is bad and didnt play good today, but today, there was no opinion, it was a fact that Vieri played bad today. If you support Vieri's performance, you are certainly influenced by your emotions towards the player, because if you were fair and righteous, you would have said Vieri was useless today.



Concerning your other post saying that you have a problem with me, I think you should think twice. You are the one who thinks he is going to be coaching Milan one day. You are the one who is arrogant and keep telling people off for their opinions. You are the one who refuses to believe what they see. Your attitude is a problem as well, you need to grow up.

[mrki]

some players arent put there for their attacking abilities, i just said my opinion on kaladze and u can read it there.

hitmanq8, im not gonna give what u said any consideration simply because its coming from u. and thats not a good thing btw

Yes, i know wky Gattuso is on our team. But, in that case you need to have a super right back ( like Cafu) who can run all day ,or whole right side is cutten off. Cafu didnt do all the running in the second half so the problem was that we were pushing through the middle, and that cant be done in these games. :3band:

[mk18]

mk18, you are arrogant, thats what you are :)

http://www.latestgoals.net/upload/9vtaliym4pvk.zip here are the highlights of the game for anyone wants to see HOW STUPID vieri is

hah ... u posted the link, u should know best that it was inzaghi who wasted the easy chances, vieris chance wasnt easy yet it was ery close, look at inzaghi's!!! ... hes pathetic!!! ... oh id like to remind u about that shot were he took it with his left near the edge of the box and it didnt even come close to goal... yeah vieri didnt do that.. oh and in the clip look at the chance where inzaghi instead of setting up 2 teamates coming from behind with his chest, takes it for himself and as usual its far away and the keeper scuffles it.

[hitmannq8]

Yes, i know wky Gattuso is on our team. But, in that case you need to have a super right back ( like Cafu) who can run all day ,or whole right side is cutten off. Cafu didnt do all the running in the second half so the problem was that we were pushing through the middle, and that cant be done in these games. :3band:


I agree with you again mrki :)

I would like to know, did you think we should have started with Vieri and Sheva? What about Marek, should he have come on? I personally think Gattuso had a good game, he performed his role well, getting the balls back and playing defensively, and his horrifying shots on goal. What about Ancelotti, what do u think of his tactics?

[koyuki]

hi all, this is my first time to post, but i have been there for many years.
I should admit that I am a fan of Pippo.
Anyway I don't demand every Milan fans should support him or like him.
But I just cann;t tolerate those unfair comment of MK18!

Milan cann't score is not just one man fault, yeah you blame Pippo is useless, then why don't you blame Kaka waste the chance, Cafu's cross were not as splendid as usual, seedorf couldnt shot on target?
you said Pippo is useless, he just know how to run, but at least his running can create some space for other, dribbled the keeper and passed out the ball, but nobody was here!
I know all your guys wonder why Gila was on the stand, but it is useless to say what he could do for Milan if he would play, you will never know!
and also, it is the choice of the coach, not Pippo's fault, what I have seen is that Pippo paid his best, obviously he is not on his best yet, but he still can create some space for others, don't you find Milan attack more in the 2nd half? Yeah, Milan just miss the goal, but is it only Pippo's fault? does it meant that he is rubbish?it is quite ridiculous!

[mrki]

I agree with you again mrki :)

I would like to know, did you think we should have started with Vieri and Sheva? What about Marek, should he have come on? I personally think Gattuso had a good game, he performed his role well, getting the balls back and playing defensively, and his horrifying shots on goal. What about Ancelotti, what do u think of his tactics?

I personaly think Vieri cant play for Milan and aldough tgey are trying to make him alive again, the club sufers becouse of it. Gila certanly isnt tired, he could play but Carlo is afraid to send Vieri on the stands. Marek maybe doesnt have enough power for 90min, but he could certanly play for 30-35min. Carlo........I dislike him so much its even hard to describe that.Coward in general.

[hitmannq8]

Anyway, despite all those comments i think we have had an exceptionally good 2nd half, and we just lacked a finish.. Kaka's finishes were that good today, Vieri was bad, Pippo was unlucky. Now we move ahead to the Palermo game, we should not have nothing to worry about because we are still top of the group. I am looking forward to seeing Gila-Pippo infront along with Marek having at least one whole half to play. Vogel should take Pirlo's position. Maybe its time that Maldini has a rest. FORZA MILAN :)

[mk18]

Kaladze did go forward and tried to dribble and do fancy stuff, but lost the ball so easily.. and often does that, that is why i say he is disgusting in doing that. And no, Ancelotti did not tell him to sit back, because he kept trying to attack and felt he doesnt know how to so he decided not to humiliate himself and stick to the things he can do.

And no Vieri did not play 75 minutes well, you are wrong AGAIN. You always think that what you think is correct and everyone else is wrong. I always give my opinion and say Vieri is bad and didnt play good today, but today, there was no opinion, it was a fact that Vieri played bad today. If you support Vieri's performance, you are certainly influenced by your emotions towards the player, because if you were fair and righteous, you would have said Vieri was useless today.

look whos talking?!? ... me being arrogant??.. me wrong AGAIN?? how did u decide im wrong?? just cuz i dont agree with u??? let me remind u this, i cant recall anyone agreeing with u ever on anything, u never agree on anything! so dont tell me im wrong AGAIN, i dont mind being wrong but honestly theres no wrong or right here, what im telling u is to stop bashing vieri (and i was never a huge fan of his, im just being fair, or atleast trying to) because give him credit where its due, u dont give him a chance, im not saying hes perfect, know hes extremely lazy, but he has positives and they deserve to be recongnized, in ur head, he has nothing.

and i never said everyone one is wrong, i just dont agree with MOST people here, because alot of them have ur same mentality, the ruthless mentality, where no one can make mistakes, no points can be lost, every subsitiution should be perfect.. and so on.

i seem to have the same mentality as members like zlatanov, triniman, kris ... and so on, people who have been here for ages and have followed milan before u were born and obviously have better knowledge of the game than u do.

u have the mentality of a newbie, no disrespect but i consider dr. milano a newbie, same with mrki, and anyone who joined in the past year (dont be fooled by my join date, i had to start a new account because of a hacking incident that happened here in the past, lok it up for urself, its mohammadk18)



Concerning your other post saying that you have a problem with me, I think you should think twice. You are the one who thinks he is going to be coaching Milan one day. You are the one who is arrogant and keep telling people off for their opinions. You are the one who refuses to believe what they see. Your attitude is a problem as well, you need to grow up.

man what is wrong with u, where the hell do u read from??? ... where did i say i have a problem with u???

i never said im gonna coach milan one day, i said im studying sports management hoping that one day ill coach a club, hopefully milan eventhough it seems too impossible... u need a grammar check buddy, either ur on drugs or u dont know ur english.

i need to grow up??? ... i dont know if u realized it but im the one who keeps telling everyone to stop whinning, and u top that list, just like a father tells his kids to stop whinning... im the one who thinks that we shouldnt go crazy in the tranfer market because it would backfire the way it did when baresi left... i dont think i have to prove anything to u... once i find u 'mature' enough, and u say all the crap u are now, then yeah there might be a problem... but ur still immature IMO

[Billy_Montreal]

We cannot be blamed for not trying and "playing"...we created chances ... had some opportunities and did well in mid-field. I personally felt that Kaka was either having an off day by his standards or was tired...missed passes and missed shots plagued him today. Vieri is getting the play time from Carlo but he has to prove his worth...we need him to score. Pippo who came off a year and half long injury was quite dangerous and his usual pesky self.

[mk18]

hi all, this is my first time to post, but i have been there for many years.
I should admit that I am a fan of Pippo.
Anyway I don't demand every Milan fans should support him or like him.
But I just cann;t tolerate those unfair comment of MK18!

Milan cann't score is not just one man fault, yeah you blame Pippo is useless, then why don't you blame Kaka waste the chance, Cafu's cross were not as splendid as usual, seedorf couldnt shot on target?
you said Pippo is useless, he just know how to run, but at least his running can create some space for other, dribbled the keeper and passed out the ball, but nobody was here!
I know all your guys wonder why Gila was on the stand, but it is useless to say what he could do for Milan if he would play, you will never know!
and also, it is the choice of the coach, not Pippo's fault, what I have seen is that Pippo paid his best, obviously he is not on his best yet, but he still can create some space for others, don't you find Milan attack more in the 2nd half? Yeah, Milan just miss the goal, but is it only Pippo's fault? does it meant that he is rubbish?it is quite ridiculous!


effff... spare me... i dont want to reply, this is a waste of time.