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Honestly, last night score reminds me of InterMerda's tragedy against Valencia.
InterMerda was held 2-2 at San Siro and then 0-0 at Mestalla to kick them out from CL....
Hope this very similar score...2-2 at San Siro won't repeated a bad story as what InterMerda's was experiencing. All we need is to score 1-0 at the Bay Arena and pass to the Semifinal.
Can we do it?? I am damn sure we could...hope Sergio would be available to make their defense busy to hold him and thus enabling Kaka to play a beautiful game from the center..along with Super Pippo and Oliveira while Gila on suspension for the 2nd yellow.
This coming Saturday will be a very important game against Empoli to leap them from 5th place.
So...let us cross our fingers for our beloved Rossoneri.
i just got back from a pub here in evansville indiana, usa. while travelling, i had to drive over 80 miles and hour, while calling bars in the area to find the game. had to stay for the pens vs sabres game. after reading all the post match posts...all i got to say is...
wtf.
you people here that b1tch and complain after every loss/draw is soo predictable. did you watch the game? who was the better side? yeah milan had a couple defencive breakdowns...and as disappointing as they are... THEY HAPPEN!!! we arent playing some school team. THEY BEAT REAL MADRID TO GET GET TO US, and we DOMINATED THEM. they capitalized on 2 of the few scoring chances they got.
Now i have only watched milan for 3 yrs now, so maybe some of you are used to running over every team you play, and never loosing...or drawing. But i was more excited watching the first half of this game, almost as good as the the 2nd half of the 1st vs inter game this year. if i was a bayern fan, i wouldnt be upset about penalty's but how badly we were out played.
i dont know how you blame a goalie on a free touch on the back post?... most goalies wouldnt of even been there...
I have faith after watching how much we controlled this game, that a victory at bayern is not only possible, but probable.
KEEP THE FAITH...
Dude.. i totally agree with u on this.. the whole thing u said.. im with u man..
after watching this game.. i can only say 1 thing.. lady luck is not on our side so many times this year.. she will be.. its just a matter of time..
Cometh The hour.. Cometh the Man..
Ricardo Kaka FTW !
In very difficult situation like that i can not blame a human! If a sensor failed to register the right decision in such situation, I could blame it!
It wasn't a very difficult situation
Gila was clearly on side
In situations like this if the referee isn't sure he should give credit to the striker but that bastard didn't
zlatanov
04-04-2007, 05:51
I think Oli - Pippo is our best best for the return leg. Gilardino will probably start against Empoli as he can't play next wed. I'm not worried, Milan will find a way to contain Bayern at home while scoring 1 or 2 away goals. FORZA MILAN!
I think we'll play - or at least start the game with 1 striker up front - because we cannot allow Bayern to score more than a goal and for that we'll need a strong midfield to contain their attacks and hit them whenever we can.
My money is on the same midfield that started yesterday to start the game in Munich too ... and I hope that later in the game we could introduce Serginho 'cause that man can open spaces like no other and could be potentially devastating alongside Kaka on the counters, which the game will definitely go to at some point in time, especially if we manage to score a goal and Bayern are forced to push forward.
Also, wouldn't mind having RO start the game as I would like to have Pippo fresh on the pitch for the decisive, second half of the game and Inzaghi doesn't have a full 90 min game in his feet anymore.
Plus RO seems to play better when he starts a game and often looks isolated when he comes on a sub.
And kaka better pick up his game 'cause if we intend to make it thru, we'll need the best of him and not like yesterday - 80-85 min of anonymous football. Same goes for Dida, the defense did have it's fingers in the two Bayern goals but he also looked out of sorts, slow to react and disoriented at times.
I don't think it's mission impossible for us, not at all ... I am sure we are bound to have several good chances to score and will most probably have 1-2 goals at least ... the most important thing, however, would be to keep concentration at the back high all the time and not let them score more than 1 goal, even better if none at all.
ACMILAN1983
04-04-2007, 07:02
i thought that too, but in replay it seemed he jumped between maldini and another one, didnt looked like a foul. The ball was too high anyway, it didnt really matter.
A foul's a foul though and in the end it should have been called, especially as in most games we'll see a few calls in similar situations for even less.
I'm disappointed, to say the least. You guys can go ahead and bash Dida or whomever for all I care if it gets your rocks off, because you're entitled to your opinions even though I don't always agree with them.
I'm just waiting for Ancelotti to openly finger only Dida in the media again for the result.
That's all I have to say. Later.
Dida played fairly poorly last night, but he's not alone to blame for the goals. Ancelotti openly fingered Dida in the past?
i just got back from a pub here in evansville indiana, usa. while travelling, i had to drive over 80 miles and hour, while calling bars in the area to find the game. had to stay for the pens vs sabres game. after reading all the post match posts...all i got to say is...
wtf.
you people here that b1tch and complain after every loss/draw is soo predictable. did you watch the game? who was the better side? yeah milan had a couple defencive breakdowns...and as disappointing as they are... THEY HAPPEN!!! we arent playing some school team. THEY BEAT REAL MADRID TO GET GET TO US, and we DOMINATED THEM. they capitalized on 2 of the few scoring chances they got.
Now i have only watched milan for 3 yrs now, so maybe some of you are used to running over every team you play, and never loosing...or drawing. But i was more excited watching the first half of this game, almost as good as the the 2nd half of the 1st vs inter game this year. if i was a bayern fan, i wouldnt be upset about penalty's but how badly we were out played.
i dont know how you blame a goalie on a free touch on the back post?... most goalies wouldnt of even been there...
I have faith after watching how much we controlled this game, that a victory at bayern is not only possible, but probable.
KEEP THE FAITH...
We played quite well for much of the match last night, but some issues were clearly highlighted, which is why the criticism is so high. Beating and dominating Real this season is no impressive feat I'm afraid, they're pretty much a joke.
As for Dida, his mistake on the back post was that he hadn't covered the angle. Van Buyten had a good few seconds before shooting and Dida had time to cover (any high level keeper would be expected to get there). Anyway, at that angle the keeper has to always be sure not to let past anything at the near post, as it makes it extremely difficult for the attacker.
I don't really get all the Gila hating here (though I'm not surprised as usual). He had probably two key events during the game. One was the miss in the first half, which quite honestly I think Rensing did brilliantly to save and the second he scored, but was given an incorrect offside and yellow card. He was slaughtered after the Roma match, and last night Kaka had a similar game to Gila against Roma, yet no complaints whatsoever. Ridiculous.
I really hope we beat Bayern, with little more reason than their arrogance is shocking. They weren't impressive in any way last night and yet talk as though they were the better side. This season I've only seen Inter have a similar sort of arrogance, and at least on their part they're backing it up by walking away with the Scudetto.
It wasn't a very difficult situation
Gila was clearly on side
In situations like this if the referee isn't sure he should give credit to the striker but that bastard didn't
We were not in referee position's! If he isnt sure why he should give credit to striker? Why not to the defender? :)
We can win this one people! We just need Serginho and a bit of luck, we can do it for sure! Yesterday it should have been 3-1 wictory for sure, but we failed with fitness. Also, Carlo played Seedorf too much, again. But its not over, we only need to go forward hard in Munchenm, not stay back and defend. FORZA MILAN! No Gila in Garmany, so we can score, hey? :)
We just need Serginho
I miss him so much. I agree with Ancelotti that he is one of best fullback in the world. He was not on the bench against Bayer, I wonder why..
Hasan Rossonero
04-04-2007, 07:11
hassan, u rly think so? i mean really?
That Dida should be thrown our or we're going to make it?
Yes to both. Inshallah. :respect:
Kaka1899
04-04-2007, 07:24
anybody up for a Buffon to Milan campaign? :D:D
you mean, chasing buffon?
Pireloke
04-04-2007, 07:50
You know, after finaly falling to sleep 12hours after the Bayern match I woke up and went to read the commentaries on goal.com and tuttimercato.com where the retards like to write comments in italian under the articles and something put me immediately in a good mood :
The stupid Inter fags laughing like little girls.
They make me feel so good by confirming my superiority as a Milan tifosi.
They forgot that
a) they lost 0-2 to Bayern in the very same home stadium just a few months ago and b) they didn't like the movie they had to watch because their clowns club is always eliminated at this stage of the CL anyway.
So why are they laughing when they should hide under the rock they came from?
Right, they are Inter fans aka the worst retards on earth. Thanks for the smile, fags.
A foul's a foul though and in the end it should have been called, especially as in most games we'll see a few calls in similar situations for even less.
still... it was marginaly a fould. Could be given, yes, and i can imagine what the media response would be like. Nobody likes italian football these days and its pissing me off. I hope roma gives a lecture today...
1) We played quite well for much of the match last night, but some issues were clearly highlighted, which is why the criticism is so high.
2) Beating and dominating Real this season is no impressive feat I'm afraid, they're pretty much a joke.
3) As for Dida,...
4) I don't really get all the Gila hating here
5) I really hope we beat Bayern, with little more reason than their arrogance is shocking.
1) yup, thats why the criticism... we should win it by 2 goals, yet we have draw in the end. 1st grade mistakes that pisses u off.
2) Same as last year when arsenal beat juve and real - both pretty much a joke at that time and real was the same this year.
3) Its not only his fault, but he had so little work and he did horribly. Going for the ball covering his face? Not going for the ball? Bad keeping.
4) some excuse here to gila, he got a good goal in, but he was unlucky. He really is jinxed.
5) we wont loose... but i fear it will end at 0-0 or 1-1. If we play like we played till 70 min yesterday, i dont doubt in our win!
We were not in referee position's! If he isnt sure why he should give credit to striker? Why not to the defender? :)
Because it is a FIFA rule
Kaka1899
04-04-2007, 08:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRmb_bhZGgg
you have to ask your self what was Dida doing yes i know its also the defences fault but on the first one he came for a ball that he couldnt reach then when he got there he flapped like a giant bird at it instead of being decisive and the second one e closes his eyes and covers his face if he would have stood right on his post Van Buyten wouldnt have scored simple as that. Buffon To Milan in the Summer!
btw the second goal is on 2:08.
Because it is a FIFA rule
Could you give me direct link in which I can read this thing?
Why does Dida have to play for Milan?
STFU about Dida already you ingrates!!!! :mad:
Who was it that out-saved Buffon to win un the CL? :mad:
Who was our our star keeper in the last scudetto we won? :mad:
All those jerking off to pics of Buffon/Amelia I wonder if you ever saw the kinds of goals that those guys let in? :mad:
How many here actually understand the concept of a near post shot? :mad:
We had an unfortunate draw and everybody's giving up already! Warro was RIGHT!! you are really fickle fans!!! I can't believe the ridiculous posts I am seeing!!! Funny how nobody mentions Gila in all of this....bad decision or not he is going TWO YEARS WITH TWO GOALS!!!! Nobody says anything!! Infact some give him a higher rating than Kaka??
Are there no positives???
What about Nesta's BRILLIANCE???
What about MOTM Pirlo????
I can't believe I am hearing Milan fans...you guys might as well join Inter for all I care :mad:
Could you give me direct link in which I can read this thing?
I don't have a direct link but from what i know according to this referees should give credit to offensive play so in this case the assistant referee if is not 100% sure about the offside position he must let the play continue
ACMILAN1983
04-04-2007, 10:56
still... it was marginaly a fould. Could be given, yes, and i can imagine what the media response would be like. Nobody likes italian football these days and its pissing me off. I hope roma gives a lecture today...
1) yup, thats why the criticism... we should win it by 2 goals, yet we have draw in the end. 1st grade mistakes that pisses u off.
2) Same as last year when arsenal beat juve and real - both pretty much a joke at that time and real was the same this year.
3) Its not only his fault, but he had so little work and he did horribly. Going for the ball covering his face? Not going for the ball? Bad keeping.
4) some excuse here to gila, he got a good goal in, but he was unlucky. He really is jinxed.
5) we wont loose... but i fear it will end at 0-0 or 1-1. If we play like we played till 70 min yesterday, i dont doubt in our win!
It was a pretty clear foul to me, and in the end, the media shouldn't be allowed to control the game (though I get your point).
I can't disagree with anything you put there lol.
Warro Bantan
04-04-2007, 11:14
There is no doubt in my mind that we were superior to Bayern for huge chunks of this game. Technically, as well as tactically, we outplayed them all over the pitch.
Then came a cascade of events. Dida, again with his sense of timing and positioning on crosses, flaps, we concede. We regain the lead, fortunately, from a call from the ref, obviously smarting from seeing the replay of the penalty he denied us in the first half.
We go ahead, but Carlo takes too long to take off Seedorf, and, makes a mistake in bringing on Pippo.
This was not Pippo´s game...he lost every, and I mean every ball he got, and the long ball that Gila was successful more times than not in trapping, or keeping from the Bayern defenders...kept being returned to Bayern players...since Pippo couldnt win a header if he sold his soul to do so.
So, Dida, Carlo´s subs, cost us the win.
If we play the same way we did in Munich (which is a tall order, but doable) then we shouldnt have problems going to the next round.
I really really hope that, if anyone leaves us next term, that its Dida...he is, despite being a cup winner for us in the past, is making waaaaaay too many mistakes this season, and I cant see him improving next term.
I would also play Storari in the next leg, if only to wake Dida out of his slumber. Dida can stay in Milanello, and work with the primavera on positioning and handling crosses.
What a pathetic display by our #1...but Carlo´s reluctance to take Seedorf off, and by replacing Gila with Pippo, also contributed in the end, to cost us this game.
Solid game by everyone else, except Kaka, who dissappeard for large portions of the game.
Can we win in Munich? Well I wont be watching the game thats for sure. I am going to take a sleeping pill, and then hear the score when I wake up...then watch the replay on ESPN later that night, if we do win. My heart cant take the stress of another match like yesterdays. At one point, I thought I was going to breathe my last breath....
Blacktop
04-04-2007, 11:35
He would still be on top form he carried through the beginning of the season had he not gotten injured vs. AEK and Roma. Period.
I still want to punch Billy for the latter. :mad:
I agree; I think Carlo's sub was absolutely horrendous yesterday~~~~
Pireloke
04-04-2007, 11:56
My heart cant take the stress of another match like yesterdays. At one point, I thought I was going to breathe my last breath....
When they scored the 2-2 in the last second I had to run to go vomit in the WC from the nerves, send me a sleep pill also, but thing is my nerves are stronger than pills when Milan plays I think... I can see myself going into a coma from anger one day, which almost happened right after I smashed an ashtray in my television set after Istanbul final, I guess I'm either not normal or a true ultra, didn't figure it out yet.
Warro Bantan
04-04-2007, 12:53
Hope it wasnt a flatscreen HDTV Pireloke! I do understand how frustrating it can be...having been through even worse seasons than this one.
The thing is, we have the potential to be a winning team, the players, the coach, the tactics...but for one reason or another, it all goes pear shaped for us too often.
This is football however, and I dont think I would change the dynamics...however, I wont send u a sleeping pill, as that would make me a narco trafficker...:D
When they scored the 2-2 in the last second I had to run to go vomit in the WC from the nerves, send me a sleep pill also, but thing is my nerves are stronger than pills when Milan plays I think... I can see myself going into a coma from anger one day, which almost happened right after I smashed an ashtray in my television set after Istanbul final, I guess I'm either not normal or a true ultra, didn't figure it out yet.
You are both. :grinser:
We can still qualify. We just will have to wait a week. Yes, it will be a long week. We can be proud of the prestation of the team yesterday. It's a pitty of those two lucky goals. We also scored a lucky goal. But then I would have preferred that it stayed 1-1.
Before the goals of Bayern I noticed a real enthusiasm of the Milan supporters in the stadium. I also got that feeling again of Milan is the best team of the world. The goals of Bayern did smash that great feeling, but i can still feel it. I believe we really can qualify.
Graeme C
04-04-2007, 13:27
STFU about Dida already you ingrates!!!! :mad:
Who was it that out-saved Buffon to win un the CL? :mad:
Who was our our star keeper in the last scudetto we won? :mad:
All those jerking off to pics of Buffon/Amelia I wonder if you ever saw the kinds of goals that those guys let in? :mad:
How many here actually understand the concept of a near post shot? :mad:
We had an unfortunate draw and everybody's giving up already! Warro was RIGHT!! you are really fickle fans!!! I can't believe the ridiculous posts I am seeing!!! Funny how nobody mentions Gila in all of this....bad decision or not he is going TWO YEARS WITH TWO GOALS!!!!
Again that was then, this is now. Dida did outsave Buffon, flip side of the coin you could say Milans players were better at taking penalties. If anything Dida has got alot worse since then ( i think that flare has done more psychological damage than anything). Buffon like good whisky has matured and got better with age.
my Gila view is a bit biased tho, my Gila poster keeps me up at night :P Funny enough you dont mension Oliviera, Inzaghi too much.. out of the 3 champ league strikers Gilardino is the best bet. Inzaghi has lost it,he was great 2/3 years ago.. and Oliviera is worse than Jose Mari..
People moan about Oddo and Jankulovski.. there the best we have, and we have to make do..
hitmannq8
04-04-2007, 14:36
at least Roma is making Italy proud with their azz-whooping performance.. they are totally dominating.. i can't believe how dirty scholes is.. he gets so many red cards.. far far more than totti
at least Roma is making Italy proud with their azz-whooping performance.. they are totally dominating.. i can't believe how dirty scholes is.. he gets so many red cards.. far far more than totti
So should we stop complaining that we earn a 1-1 draw at their home? (well it's only half time now, but with 1 man down I don't see Man U winning today)
Vucinic In!!
two forwards!!!
Roma goes ahead 2-1!!!! need something to learn Carletto!!!
hitmannq8
04-04-2007, 15:44
So should we stop complaining that we earn a 1-1 draw at their home? (well it's only half time now, but with 1 man down I don't see Man U winning today)
who's we? i didnt understand a thing you said.. but man utd only had 2 chances the entire game, one was the goal and another was rooney's hopeful shot from distance.. roma missed so many chances.. just like milan yesterday but they didnt concede in the last kick of the game..
ancelotti needs to take notes from spaletti on what to do next..he prolly has no clue what to do against bayern and is just goin to field the same starting 11 he has fielded since the season started :d55:
Stezagud
04-04-2007, 15:54
Roma got lucky, big deflection otherwise Van Der Sar easliy saves Taddei's miss hit shot. Utd showed guts today, a man down, a lucky goal down and missing 3 of our back 4 but we still kept 3 strikers on, and they combined to score the only quality goal of the game :D
Milan_Mad
04-04-2007, 15:59
Roma got lucky, big deflection otherwise Van Der Sar easliy saves Taddei's miss hit shot. Utd showed guts today, a man down, a lucky goal down and missing 3 of our back 4 but we still kept 3 strikers on, and they combined to score the only quality goal of the game :Dthe most biased review ever! :grinser:
Stezagud
04-04-2007, 16:08
what part was biased exactly?
Utd werent a man down?
Taddei's shot didnt take a big deflection?
Utd werent missing Evra, Vidic and Neville?
Utd didnt keep Rooney, Ronaldo and Solsksjaer on (despite them combining for the goal!)
Utd didnt score the only quality goal of the game?
I think you'll find that was all accurate, the only none fact is how to interpret a quality goal, i tend to favour flowing moves that go from keeper to net in 15 seconds over deflections and rebounds but maybe thats not to your liking :D
I dont really care anyway, the cricket is still on so im more concerned with that right now ;)
Warro Bantan
04-04-2007, 16:24
Stez...while Rooney looked good scoring, he was unmarked, in acres of space, with all the time in the world to chest the ball, then place it...all without being tackled..so while I do admit it was a "good" goal, I dont know much about it being "Quality" or better than the second Roma strike...
hitmannq8
04-04-2007, 16:27
its ok Steza, we understand your problems..ur english! :D even if Roma won 4-1, im sure that Man Utd would have deserved to win it, especially because of their quality goal :D
Warro Bantan
04-04-2007, 16:34
Roma should have won 4-1...Totti had two good chances to score, but didnt...
joeycuccaro
04-04-2007, 18:29
so what needs to happen for us to advance guys? I thought away goals on aggregate count as 2. So on aggregrate we are down 4-2? If we win 1-0 at bayern wouldnt that equal 4-4, sending that to extra time and possibly pks?
No, away goals only count if its tied on aggregate. If we win 1-0 we're through.
OMG Oddo was so bad today. This is the 3rd REALLY bad game for Oddo, and surprise surprise his other 2 bad games were both in the CL against Celtic. His inexperience is costing us dearly.
That's utter nonsense. He's a fullback, he showed his quality with the cross for Pirlo's goal and the cross for Gilardino's header. His only job defensively is to stop crosses coming in from his flank and given the first wasn't from his flank and the second was a longball from the half way he's not to blame for either of them nor is it his job to clear crosses into the box, that's the job of the centre backs. In case you hadn't noticed Van Buyten is a giant, he's 6ft 5in, Maldini can't jump anymore, Nesta wasn't close and the only player we have taller than Van Buyten is Dida, the onus was on him to command his area.
My prediction: Milan, if go through Bayern, will not win in the semi final. But I would say that Milan won't even be able to beat Bayern this year, losing on away goal (1-1 in Munich is my call).
Just my two cents... constructive, thoughtful opinions welcome.
What you've wrote was constructive Jeff. Yet I will respectfully disagree with you. We only need Tuesday's performance minus the awful mistakes and we can beat not only Bayern but any team out there.
Perhaps we shall try to find some consensus between us?
It is apparent by many that Milan has played not even 1 decent game all season. The question is "when?". Are all games this season going to not be satisfactory to any here in this forum? You see I'll take those odds against the many who are pessimistic about our chances to get by Bayern and to go further than that. If we are at rock bottom as so much have come to agree on, and with a "so-so" game against Bayern. We can do no worse but go back up... no???
This is my two cents and I'll back it up 100%. IMO it is gold!
curry chicken
04-04-2007, 23:03
Kui...you brought up a good point, something that's stirred my hope. There is NO WAY to go but up for Milan, definatley.
I think many of us are looking for that "perfect" game. I know, I know, there's no such thing as perfection, but we can come close. Milan of the past HAS done so. We're asking for something like a 100 percent match fit defense (not just feeling good, but feeling excellent), a CL level Oddo, a non-invisible Janku, Kaka-Pirlo-Seedorf at their biting best, a clear-headed Rino, an on-form striker with a 1/3 odds of scoring and...really good hair. Now while our defense does have the best coiffed locks in Europe :D , for all those other pieces of the Milan XI puzzle to fall into place AT THE SAME TIME is more like a dream nowadays than anything close to reality. If Kaka is brilliant then Pirlo and Gila aren't, if Rino's winning balls and intercepting like crazy then Ambro and Seedorf are losing them, if Nesta is awake then the rest of the defence isn't and vice versa...but that doesn't mean that Milan can't TRY and look for that "perfect" game. Not that we can't be proud of what we've done so far, but all Milan fans know that there is so much more to this team. I for one will not rule out the fnals in Athens, even though every journalist and non-milanista has already done so.
It's all in the head really. As many have mentioned here, we have a squad bursting with insane talent but only 50+ mins worth of the right mentality. We have all the patience in the world (and so do the fans eh, guys?), but I didn't see that 'next-level' football or the concentration in mid-field to back it up. Goals that should lift us and better our game, make us lose focus and flutter. Every small lapse in concentration proves to be a decisive goal against us. Milan.com boasts headlines like 'the players still beleive' and "the dream is still alive'...well, that's nice guys, but you have to show that ferocity on the field. We're not playing Roma (god forbid) or Chelsea...it's Bayern Monaco for god's sake, could UEFA be on our corrupted side any more than this? :zany: :zany:
Bayern players walked away smiling, as if they'd just beat Milan at it's best when we all know the devil has yet to be released from it's cage. I've already said this before and I'll say it again, albeit a little differently now..it's DO OR DIE MILAN. "So-so" is not enough. You can't win games on the 'awesomeness of how you were 3 years ago', you can't blame injuries, or the ref or the point deductions. We brought this on ourselves. I don't want us to fly outta Germany in our shiny D&G suits, with nothing to show for all the crap the ragazzi went through this season to get to where we are now. :nervous:
Sorry if that sounded overly dramatic guys. I'm in a strange mood. Forgive me.
hitmannq8
04-04-2007, 23:31
Mehdi, I said Oddo performed badly, i did not say he had anything to do with the goals we conceded.
Anyway lets not keep our hopes up and just hope for the best.
Blacktop
04-04-2007, 23:44
so what needs to happen for us to advance guys? I thought away goals on aggregate count as 2. So on aggregrate we are down 4-2? If we win 1-0 at bayern wouldnt that equal 4-4, sending that to extra time and possibly pks?
No, it's currently 2-2 on aggregate, but Bayern have that BIG advantage of two away goals. Away goals count as one.
A nil-nil or one-all tie, and Bayern are through.
A 2-2 draw would result in a round of PKs.
Anything above that (3-3 and up), or a victory, and we advance.
It could be worse, I suppose...at least we didn't get reamed 3-0 at home like PSV.
What you've wrote was constructive Jeff. Yet I will respectfully disagree with you. We only need Tuesday's performance minus the awful mistakes and we can beat not only Bayern but any team out there.
Perhaps we shall try to find some consensus between us?
It is apparent by many that Milan has played not even 1 decent game all season. The question is "when?". Are all games this season going to not be satisfactory to any here in this forum? You see I'll take those odds against the many who are pessimistic about our chances to get by Bayern and to go further than that. If we are at rock bottom as so much have come to agree on, and with a "so-so" game against Bayern. We can do no worse but go back up... no???
This is my two cents and I'll back it up 100%. IMO it is gold!
I have been thinking about this, too, about this 'regression to the mean' hypothesis. But is it likely that it'll happen next game, with Gila out and the pressure mounting on Milan, who needs to produce a win AWAY?
All Milan teams in the past year (i.e., since 2002 to 2006), I will say, HELL YES. But this year? No. I didn't see the winning mentality that the team has demonstrated in the past. For example, they have been awful in terms of defending a lead. It was not like this before. Milan, despite being 'dominated' for the last 15 minutes usually in the game (when they were leading) continued to defend well. It's a matter of confidence. But I don't see ANY confidence in this team right now, when two not-so-difficult-to-defend high ball resulted in TWO goals, with fingers pointing at each other why the goals were conceded... this Milan is simply not the same Milan that I have seen, and I am not the kind of person who says this easily, (as you know since you are around long enough).
Even if Milan go through Bayern, I don't see them as a champion team this year. Roma, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Man U do. I'm referring to the 'mentality', the hunger to win. Milan has the hunger, for the first 45 minutes, then somehow it just dies away, fearing that 1) if it's 0-0, they won't score in the second half; 2) if it's 1-0 or 2-1, they'll concede another goal. This, of course, turns out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
We'll see how Milan played against Empoli this week; I haven't seen any consistency this year at Milan, and you BUILD consistency. It doesn't come to you all of a sudden.
And this is why I'm not optimistic, this time round.
Well we dont know for sure Jeff if they indeed have no yearning for success. You would at least agree that the fire within them has yet been released no? This is what I'm banking on. Yeah... it is a long one, but still we've havent seen anything from them as yet. It will come, it has to come. What better time than the closing weeks of the season. They are darn well aware of the consequences if they fail to produce anything.... a new coach meaning a high likeliness of leaving the club or content on the bench. I still believe we are looking at this years CL Cup winners.
Well we dont know for sure Jeff if they indeed have no yearning for success. You would at least agree that the fire within them has yet been released no? This is what I'm banking on. Yeah... it is a long one, but still we've havent seen anything from them as yet. It will come, it has to come. What better time than the closing weeks of the season. They are darn well aware of the consequences if they fail to produce anything.... a new coach meaning a high likeliness of leaving the club or content on the bench. I still believe we are looking at this years CL Cup winners.
I hope I can be as optimistic as you :D. Well, I can't blame Carlo too much; after all, who can he use? This squad is completely depleted, both psychologically and physically. Let's hope that Milan will get into CL next year, and it's time to really rebuild the squad. no major changes needed, but some adjustments required.
Finally, I must admit that it's time to change, not in a dramatic way, but some have to leave, some will stay. It's time.
ACMILAN1983
05-04-2007, 03:34
Kui...you brought up a good point, something that's stirred my hope. There is NO WAY to go but up for Milan, definatley.
I think many of us are looking for that "perfect" game. I know, I know, there's no such thing as perfection, but we can come close. Milan of the past HAS done so. We're asking for something like a 100 percent match fit defense (not just feeling good, but feeling excellent), a CL level Oddo, a non-invisible Janku, Kaka-Pirlo-Seedorf at their biting best, a clear-headed Rino, an on-form striker with a 1/3 odds of scoring and...really good hair. Now while our defense does have the best coiffed locks in Europe :D , for all those other pieces of the Milan XI puzzle to fall into place AT THE SAME TIME is more like a dream nowadays than anything close to reality. If Kaka is brilliant then Pirlo and Gila aren't, if Rino's winning balls and intercepting like crazy then Ambro and Seedorf are losing them, if Nesta is awake then the rest of the defence isn't and vice versa...but that doesn't mean that Milan can't TRY and look for that "perfect" game. Not that we can't be proud of what we've done so far, but all Milan fans know that there is so much more to this team. I for one will not rule out the fnals in Athens, even though every journalist and non-milanista has already done so.
It's all in the head really. As many have mentioned here, we have a squad bursting with insane talent but only 50+ mins worth of the right mentality. We have all the patience in the world (and so do the fans eh, guys?), but I didn't see that 'next-level' football or the concentration in mid-field to back it up. Goals that should lift us and better our game, make us lose focus and flutter. Every small lapse in concentration proves to be a decisive goal against us. Milan.com boasts headlines like 'the players still beleive' and "the dream is still alive'...well, that's nice guys, but you have to show that ferocity on the field. We're not playing Roma (god forbid) or Chelsea...it's Bayern Monaco for god's sake, could UEFA be on our corrupted side any more than this? :zany: :zany:
Bayern players walked away smiling, as if they'd just beat Milan at it's best when we all know the devil has yet to be released from it's cage. I've already said this before and I'll say it again, albeit a little differently now..it's DO OR DIE MILAN. "So-so" is not enough. You can't win games on the 'awesomeness of how you were 3 years ago', you can't blame injuries, or the ref or the point deductions. We brought this on ourselves. I don't want us to fly outta Germany in our shiny D&G suits, with nothing to show for all the crap the ragazzi went through this season to get to where we are now. :nervous:
Sorry if that sounded overly dramatic guys. I'm in a strange mood. Forgive me.
Despite calling Bayern Munich (or Munchen), Bayern Monaco, I think this an excellent post. :5ok:
jmacpherson
05-04-2007, 03:45
Geez!!!! Are we giving up already? As drucurl says, we are a fickle bunch! (if break any copyright laws on the word "fickle", i humbly apologise).
When Milan have their heads in the right the place and they are "in the mood", they can beat any team imho.
Milan's biggest problem is concentration, thats whats costing us the titles over the last few seasons.
example:UCL final 04-05, half-time lead of 3-0 and we lose on penalties!
that day was the turning point for our team imho.
And its not just individuals, the whole team switches off. When that happens you conceed goals and potentially lose matches.
Most of the goals this season have been let in because of a lapse in concentration. Defence makes silly mistakes, however the midfield should do there job in shielding the defence.
Wasn't it the 04-05 UCL that we hadn't conceeded a goal until the quater-finals? Know it was a recent season.
Maybe its time for the concentration classes to be compulsory again?
With regards to the match there were good things and bad things.
Bad:
-early in the match gila,kaka and seerdorf weren't combining well
-lapse in concentration allowed them to score 2 goals
-didn't clear the ball out of the box quicker enough in the latter stages
-wrong subs imho
-age of players started to affect stamina and performance
-midfield didn't close down fast enough
Good:
-as match progressed gila,kaka and seerdorf combined better
-gila first touch was better
-we created space and chances
-nesta proved how important he is to our defence
-jankul ran his heart out in that match
-rino chase down everyball
-milan dominated the game and dictated the pace
What I would have done differently:
-would have left gila on the field, missing the away leg anyway and gives lucio/van buyten something to deal with in the air
-would have brought brocchi on instead of gourcuff,we were leading and needed to stop their attacks. brocchi/rino charging down everything
-jankul ran his tank dry, so kaladze isn't a bad option. defensively he is better
-would replaced maldini with bonera, young fresh legs in defence would have been better although could have led to a goal anyway
then again there are reasons why i'm not the coach so we might have lost 5-0 if i was :devf:
in fairness to the team and gila/ambro, rensing made to fantastic reflex saves to deny us.
a few days and we will all be on the edge of our seats biting our nails and shouting at our players.
until then....
Mehdi, I said Oddo performed badly, i did not say he had anything to do with the goals we conceded.
Anyway lets not keep our hopes up and just hope for the best.
What you said was :
OMG Oddo was so bad today. This is the 3rd REALLY bad game for Oddo, and surprise surprise his other 2 bad games were both in the CL against Celtic. His inexperience is costing us dearly.
He is not playing poorly at all, in fact along with Jankulovski he has been our best defender this season.
Stezagud
05-04-2007, 11:00
Stez...while Rooney looked good scoring, he was unmarked, in acres of space, with all the time in the world to chest the ball, then place it...all without being tackled..so while I do admit it was a "good" goal, I dont know much about it being "Quality" or better than the second Roma strike...
Not exactly what i was getting at, i described it as a flowing move because it went from Van Der Sar's throw out to Ronaldo rounding 2 players to Ole feeding in the perfect cross to Rooney showing great composure and a textbook finish. It took roughly ten seconds from Roma attack to Utd goal, and every part of the move was faultless.
The second Roma goal was a decent finish but it came from a keeping error ;)
Stezagud
05-04-2007, 11:03
I was going to write a post on this subject too but there wouldnt be much point as everything i planned to say has already been said by JMacpherson :cool:
all we have to do is win to move on.
teams do this all the time in every sport.
its time to show some character and get a road win...
we are only one win from the CL semi-finals. keep the faith!!!
Not exactly what i was getting at, i described it as a flowing move because it went from Van Der Sar's throw out to Ronaldo rounding 2 players to Ole feeding in the perfect cross to Rooney showing great composure and a textbook finish. It took roughly ten seconds from Roma attack to Utd goal, and every part of the move was faultless.
The second Roma goal was a decent finish but it came from a keeping error ;)
ONE flowing move and longball, after longball after longball. They got everyone back and defended deep. They showed so little ambition, fearing Roma's pace down the flanks, it was embarrassing.
Stezagud
05-04-2007, 13:18
actually the most common plan was give the ball to Ronaldo and let him run with it, not that it matters what you do when your down to 10 and playing away from home in the cl :rolleyes:
actually the most common plan was give the ball to Ronaldo and let him run with it, not that it matters what you do when your down to 10 and playing away from home in the cl :rolleyes:
If that was the plan they failed because all anyone saw was lots of aimless longball and a team scared stiff to attack. As for that ginger twat Scholes he makes those type of challenges every week in the EPL but we all know how utterly inept and biased English referees are. It's about time a ref showed some balls and sent the dirty little cheat off.
Stezagud
05-04-2007, 14:11
Scholes got sent off vs Liverpool barely 2 weeks ago you clueless muppet! Everybody in England knows he cant tackle to save his life and he hardly ever gets away with it. Now if it was 11v11 yesterday maybe i'd take you a little more seriously but if you cant even grasp the effect playing with a man down has then your beyond help my friend ;)
Whilst on the subject of utterly inept and biased refs may i refer you to the guy who just gave a penalty against Spurs in ther UEFA Cup!
Warro Bantan
05-04-2007, 14:16
Would that make you Kermit then Stez? :D
Stezagud
05-04-2007, 14:19
i'd happily accept that if the guy would drop the subject :D
Scholes got sent off vs Liverpool barely 2 weeks ago you clueless muppet! Everybody in England knows he cant tackle to save his life and he hardly ever gets away with it. Now if it was 11v11 yesterday maybe i'd take you a little more seriously but if you cant even grasp the effect playing with a man down has then your beyond help my friend ;)
So what's your excuse for the defeats against Celtic and mighty Copenhagen? And why isn't Rooney booked every single week for swearing at officials?
Whilst on the subject of utterly inept and biased refs may i refer you to the guy who just gave a penalty against Spurs in ther UEFA Cup!
My heart bleeds for Spurs.
i'd happily accept that if the guy would drop the subject :D
If you come here posting stuff about Man United, the English Juventus, expect harsh words.
zlatanov
05-04-2007, 15:11
take it easy guys .. no need to mix up miss P1ggy and Co. in football issues :D
Whilst on the subject of utterly inept and biased refs may i refer you to the guy who just gave a penalty against Spurs in ther UEFA Cup!
I saw that too ... utterly ridiculous call and it wasn't even hard to see that Robinson got the ball :rolleyes: ... made even that PK on Kaka look like a 100% situation :D
Obviously, we totally will rely on Super Pippo in Munchen.This will be the game that determines the future for Inzaghi and Carlo.
Bayern, I believe has several weaknesses, and one of them is the shaky defence they got.
Anceloti must put Sergihno and Gourcuff in the line-up.
I dont know guys, but should put Ricardo Oliveira along with Pippo at front,
I am not giving up, but if we are about to be eliminate, lets just put up a war on Alianz Arena!!!!
Rosoneri, ARE YOU READY FOR WAR!!!!!
Stezagud
05-04-2007, 15:56
I saw that too ... utterly ridiculous call and it wasn't even hard to see that Robinson got the ball ... made even that PK on Kaka look like a 100% situation
it ended up costing them big time too :eek:
The ref has told the Spurs backroom staff he gave it for the "2nd contact", the first contact being Robinson getting the ball! I wont even pretend to understand that reasoning, if those are the rules then refs would be giving 1000 fouls a game :dielaugh:
Stezagud
05-04-2007, 16:02
So what's your excuse for the defeats against Celtic and mighty Copenhagen? And why isn't Rooney booked every single week for swearing at officials?
bad results happen when you dont need to win, how else do you explain Milan 0 - 2 Lille? As for swearing at refs, countless players do it, i wouldnt care at all if rooney was booked every week for it as long as every one else who does it got the same punishment.
If you come here posting stuff about Man United, the English Juventus, expect harsh words.
I didnt raise the subject, i just responded. So maybe you should take your harsh words and direct them at Hitmann instead :devf:
I wont bother responding on this subject here again but if you want to keep arguing with yourself for a while i wont stop you :cool:
bad results happen when you dont need to win, how else do you explain Milan 0 - 2 Lille? As for swearing at refs, countless players do it, i wouldnt care at all if rooney was booked every week for it as long as every one else who does it got the same punishment.
The point is they don't. Diouf was sent off against Boro for swearing, Rooney does it every week and rarely gets booked.
Stezagud
05-04-2007, 16:24
:grinser: :notlist: :5ok: :mad: :devf: :uhm: :p017: :sweeteye:
Richest Country
06-04-2007, 08:01
sorry, guys.
i was in greek this week and could not in the internet.
but now im back at good old germany and so i can laugh now at you...
King tiger
06-04-2007, 08:03
i was in greek
ur gay ? ? ?
sorry, guys.
i was in greek this week and could not in the internet.
but now im back at good old germany and so i can laugh now at you...
Laugh at us after your team struggled two chances in an entire 90+ minutes. Makes loads of sense.
ACMILAN1983
06-04-2007, 09:12
I suggest people ignore Richest Country as he is obviously trolling. Richest Country, if your going to troll and try to incite trouble then I suggest you leave.
sorry, guys.
i was in greek this week and could not in the internet.
but now im back at good old germany and so i can laugh now at you...
It's rare to find a German fan with no class but I guess there's always a first time.
remote2book
06-04-2007, 09:41
ur gay ? ? ?
hahaha....mite be.. :grinser:
I suggest people ignore Richest Country as he is obviously trolling. Richest Country, if your going to troll and try to incite trouble then I suggest you leave.
Does his signature involve political insensitivity?
My name is Rico. I love Milan.
Forza Maldini and Nesta. They form one of the most bitching defence lines in the world. On top of that there is Ronaldo in top form.
When you think of it Milan are passing a good period.
ACMILAN1983
06-04-2007, 15:34
Welcome Rico :)
Does his signature involve political insensitivity?
Probably not political insensitivity, but it's pretty offensive. I don't really care though, he's not really worth the trouble, losers don't deserve recognition ;)
I suggest people ignore Richest Country as he is obviously trolling. Richest Country, if your going to troll and try to incite trouble then I suggest you leave.
It's rare to find a German fan with no class but I guess there's always a first time.
Perhaps before judging Richest Country, we ought to find the reason why he writes such things. :stupid: Isnt there a precedence of this from our own FANS? :stupid: Compared to members here who trash there own team at every friggin chance, what he's said is minutia.
I dont condone or endorse Richest Country, but I sure am not going to slam him without pointing out the shortcomings within our own!
Some deep soul searching is in wanting here now isnt it?
Hmmm ... Richest Country in Greece ..... Tony 29 in Greece .... the plot thickens :d33:
:delol:
ACMILAN1983
07-04-2007, 05:27
Perhaps before judging Richest Country, we ought to find the reason why he writes such things. :stupid: Isnt there a precedence of this from our own FANS? :stupid: Compared to members here who trash there own team at every friggin chance, what he's said is minutia.
I dont condone or endorse Richest Country, but I sure am not going to slam him without pointing out the shortcomings within our own!
Some deep soul searching is in wanting here now isnt it?
Well that depends, since he joined every post he makes is to try and incite anger, which being a Milan fan or not is simply not acceptable behaviour.
Well seems we're getting selective than arent we? How much posts has he made? Like a dozen or so. We get Milan fans that do this on a daily basis. Trash the team, trash the coach, trash Berlu, trash Galliani, trash the transfer season, trash other teams as well, trash any hope, trash this forum, etc, etc, etc.
Again I'm not condoning what this Richest Country fella is doing. Wasnt it you who responded to me in a post that members have a right to say what they feel? I'm certain it was you who said so. Why the change? Dont get me wrong.... it's just that it is a total 180 from what you responded to me few weeks ago.
I'll agree with boths sides that you're taking. I think people should post what they want, and yet everyone and anyone should have the right to respond and challenge these folks.
Rather than us being passive with this guy, we should hold him to account of what he wrote, save it til after the 2nd leg and throw it right back at him. No???? He might learn a thing or two from it... he might not, but he can talk all the trash he wants to withouot anything to back it up with as of yet.
I tell you... there are so many exceptions in this forum these days that nobody even has or knows the rules. The rules only come out selectively not when some actually is doing or saying wrong things, but only when people dont like what they hear.
ACMILAN1983
07-04-2007, 07:25
Well seems we're getting selective than arent we? How much posts has he made? Like a dozen or so. We get Milan fans that do this on a daily basis. Trash the team, trash the coach, trash Berlu, trash Galliani, trash the transfer season, trash other teams as well, trash any hope, trash this forum, etc, etc, etc.
Again I'm not condoning what this Richest Country fella is doing. Wasnt it you who responded to me in a post that members have a right to say what they feel? I'm certain it was you who said so. Why the change? Dont get me wrong.... it's just that it is a total 180 from what you responded to me few weeks ago.
I'll agree with boths sides that you're taking. I think people should post what they want, and yet everyone and anyone should have the right to respond and challenge these folks.
Rather than us being passive with this guy, we should hold him to account of what he wrote, save it til after the 2nd leg and throw it right back at him. No???? He might learn a thing or two from it... he might not, but he can talk all the trash he wants to withouot anything to back it up with as of yet.
I tell you... there are so many exceptions in this forum these days that nobody even has or knows the rules. The rules only come out selectively not when some actually is doing or saying wrong things, but only when people dont like what they hear.
Being selective how? I don't remember complaining about his other posts so much, I assumed he'd be here for a little friendly banter. But now to come and say his return is to laugh at us is only likely to cause trouble. If you think I'm being selective, then I suggest you look at my attitude towards most fans of other clubs, as I know for a fact I don't treat them differently to Milan fans.
And no, this isn't 180 degrees of what I said to you before. Richest Country came here with the purpose to incite anger in Milan fans to "laugh at us" for a poor result. The posters you're talking about were stating their opinion. Though you and I may not like it, their motive for posting was completely different.
It's up to posters whether they take my suggestion or not. Quite frankly that's all it was, I never said anyone had to do it. However, I also posted that with the thought in mind that if people retort against this guy, then it could lead to quite a bit of trouble.
If the part that's been put in bold is supposed to suggest me or another mod is taking advantage of our position to control what is said in the forums, then I suggest sending a complaint to Debs or Reza. This not only applies to you, but anyone who feels this way.
humanTORCH
07-04-2007, 10:04
Hmmm ... Richest Country in Greece ..... Tony 29 in Greece .... the plot thickens :d33:
:delol:
:grinser: well....tony is that you. :devil:
Being selective how? I don't remember complaining about his other posts so much, I assumed he'd be here for a little friendly banter. But now to come and say his return is to laugh at us is only likely to cause trouble.
Let me apologise for zero-ing on you. That really isnt my intention. Let me however bring to your attention...
If you think I'm being selective, then I suggest you look at my attitude towards most fans of other clubs, as I know for a fact I don't treat them differently to Milan fans.
And no, this isn't 180 degrees of what I said to you before. Richest Country came here with the purpose to incite anger in Milan fans to "laugh at us" for a poor result. The posters you're talking about were stating their opinion. Though you and I may not like it, their motive for posting was completely different
In this case you might be doing that Dev. Look... what he wrote here is so minute compared to what our own fans say here every given chance they get to incite trouble. They do so by trashing our team. Now if they have a right to do that (even in the most unfair manner), I think what Richest Country is doing as small potatos and he too can push buttons like every and any Milan trash talkers we have in here including our own fans. Let him laugh all he wants. The best laugh is the last one and that is yet to happen.
It's up to posters whether they take my suggestion or not. Quite frankly that's all it was, I never said anyone had to do it. However, I also posted that with the thought in mind that if people retort against this guy, then it could lead to quite a bit of trouble.
I understand your point here. Again this was one post he made like this. Right? Now if what you were doing is giving a fair warning... fine, I understand where you were coming from.
If the part that's been put in bold is supposed to suggest me or another mod is taking advantage of our position to control what is said in the forums, then I suggest sending a complaint to Debs or Reza. This not only applies to you, but anyone who feels this way.
I hope you dont think that is what I'm suggesting. I'm pointing out a concern and would rather tell you first and hopefully no further than that.
ACMILAN1983
08-04-2007, 09:56
Let me apologise for zero-ing on you. That really isnt my intention. Let me however bring to your attention...
Apology accepted
In this case you might be doing that Dev. Look... what he wrote here is so minute compared to what our own fans say here every given chance they get to incite trouble. They do so by trashing our team. Now if they have a right to do that (even in the most unfair manner), I think what Richest Country is doing as small potatos and he too can push buttons like every and any Milan trash talkers we have in here including our own fans. Let him laugh all he wants. The best laugh is the last one and that is yet to happen.
Though I understand your point, I'm looking at the motive behind their posts. Most of the "trashers" that you're talking about are very insulting to the side (which at this point the rules don't forbid, though it might be worth considering amongst the mods/admins considering some of the insults), but they're bringing across an opinion, rather than trying to intentionally inflame other members. Richest Country on the other hand has quite clearly come here to cause trouble and disrespect MM members (by laughing at us as he said), which breaks rule 7.
I understand your point here. Again this was one post he made like this. Right? Now if what you were doing is giving a fair warning... fine, I understand where you were coming from.
I've not given any official warning as yet, as I'd rather let the situation die on it's own than having to start handing out warnings unnecessarily. At the same time though, I want it to be clear there are rules here and for a reason.
I hope you dont think that is what I'm suggesting. I'm pointing out a concern and would rather tell you first and hopefully no further than that.
The point I was raising was if there's ever a time when rules aren't being properly enforced and you're not happy about it, then you need to let someone know. I don't always enforce the rules, such as during games I'll generally avoid removing or warning profanity. This is to allow a little flexibility at a time when most members are probably pretty emotional. However, should it get to a point where it's just becoming ridiculous, then the rule will have to be enforced with greater conviction, though I'd rather not have to.
Thanks Dev for your prompt reply. Thanks for the rule #7 citation as well. I also see where you are coming from. I'm certain you see where I am also coming from as well. I'm glad we found a middle ground. I know what you mods do is quite a feat. A near impossible job! As near impossible as it is, I think you and the others are doing a fine job. Thanks again.
BTW... maybe you may know. What happen to the 24hr chance to edit or modify one's post? Now it can only be done after 10 minutes of posting.
there are so many exceptions in this forum these days that nobody even has or knows the rules. The rules only come out selectively not when some actually is doing or saying wrong things, but only when people dont like what they hear.
If that's the case, then many members would have gotten banned already. No one is banned permanently because of one doesn't like another person.
Don't know the rule?
http://www.milanmania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17434
the rules are here, but nobody reads it. LIke Dev said, someone can also report wrong-doing if they find one. We have been saying it all the time.
Cheers,
J
ACMILAN1983
08-04-2007, 15:51
Thanks Dev for your prompt reply. Thanks for the rule #7 citation as well. I also see where you are coming from. I'm certain you see where I am also coming from as well. I'm glad we found a middle ground. I know what you mods do is quite a feat. A near impossible job! As near impossible as it is, I think you and the others are doing a fine job. Thanks again.
BTW... maybe you may know. What happen to the 24hr chance to edit or modify one's post? Now it can only be done after 10 minutes of posting.
Glad to know we have an understanding :)
I'm not 100% sure with the editing rules, but I believe from what I've heard it was always supposed to be a 10 minutes editing time, but was for whatever reason changed to 24 hrs, but is now back to the original setting (as it was supposed to be).
I have been thinking about this, too, about this 'regression to the mean' hypothesis. But is it likely that it'll happen next game, with Gila out and the pressure mounting on Milan, who needs to produce a win AWAY?
You like my assesment huh Jeff? LOL! Come on please! :pp20: Give me this one wont ya?
sorry, guys.
i was in greek this week and could not in the internet.
but now im back at good old germany and so i can laugh now at you...
Are you laughing now?
You like my assesment huh Jeff? LOL! Come on please! :pp20: Give me this one wont ya?
:D ... well Obviously Seedorf is the one regressing to the mean lol
Blacktop
15-04-2007, 00:15
sorry, guys.
i was in greek this week and could not in the internet.
but now im back at good old germany and so i can laugh now at you...
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
I've heard of the country of Greece, but now there's one called Greek, eh? Geography isn't my strongest suit. :)
Hasan Rossonero
18-04-2007, 15:37
the cl-season 06-07 will be end for milan in 18 days...
I just wanted to thank you for your premature hubris! Bayern proved once again that German football is at the pinnacle of world football :devf: .
We beat you. Again. I'm losing count of the number of times Italian football has triumphed over German football over the years.
Was how I told
Milan have the best team of the world, when the players wanna play, they give us a show
What a fantastic slide on the grass from Nesta to recover the ball inside the defensive area
What a show of all players!
That´s the true Milan
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