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Old 09-05-2007, 19:57   #31

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Yes, Felipe is having sucess in Udinese playing in Calcio and itīs very hard to have fame as a deffender in Italy, a country that is even borning many great deffenders

My bad about didnīt had say thatīs itīs hard to have fame in Calcio, it really made that brainless people (or person) were confused

About you...
Now, itīs time for the great Felipe...
Look: http://www.udinese.it/home_udinese.p...=3&l=it&page=1

The guy isnīt even playing this year, talk back when your relative go back to the line up

Regarding your insults, Iīm really tired of the WEB Gangsta kid phenomenon
MilanMania is one of the few boards with a high level of discussion(not every time), so I will not enter in "your game", guri...

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Old 10-05-2007, 03:35   #32

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Now, itīs time for the great Felipe...
Look: http://www.udinese.it/home_udinese.p...=3&l=it&page=1

The guy isnīt even playing this year, talk back when your relative go back to the line up

Regarding your insults, Iīm really tired of the WEB Gangsta kid phenomenon
MilanMania is one of the few boards with a high level of discussion(not every time), so I will not enter in "your game", guri...
So Felipe just lost him deffensive skills because he isnīt even playing this year?

Representative brazilian attitude, even thinking that players are machines that canīt live bad momments

Another representative brazilian attitude by yourself, pretending that you are a good guy when you started the provocation...

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I need to understand...are you saying that Alex donīt have level for Milan and PSV???
PSV???
And also that Felipe is being star????
And also that Udinese have great defenders and for this cause itīs hard to Felipe have any fame??
Unbelievble
...but in your last post you told that you will not injoy the game, so... what was that?

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Youīre so wrong and confused that I donīt know how to begin...
Yep, only you know that PSV is a big team in Europe Please, keeps your pseudo knowledge of football for you. Only in this sentence you shows how clueless you are!!
You are saying that Alex donīt have level for PSV, right?? Since we are biased, what do you think about to see what PSV fans have to say???
Just read Alex thread in this forum mr. smart guy:
http://psv.netwerk.to/forums/HTML/forum7/711-117.php
This is the biggest PSV forum in the web, in Dutch, so use Babel Fish...
Suprise!!! Look for the last post(today):

Je kunt hem nog wel een jaar willen behouden, maar laten we eerlijk zijn: Alex is veel te goed voor de Eredivisie. Hij kan hier niets meer leren. Tijd voor de volgende stap.

Babel fish translation:

You can him still a year want preserve, but let we honest be: Alex are much too well for the eredivisie. He can learn here more to nothing . Time for the next step.

This post was after Alex injure that keept him out of PSV games. And besides being crushed by Liverpool, they(PSV) also lose a 9 point margin in Eredivisie:

ow,ow,ow, wat missen we Alex! Alle spelers ,die naast Alex speelde (Bouma, Ooijer, da Costa, Salcido) leken zeer goede spelers naast Alex.
Maaar Alex is er ff niet en dan blijken deze spelers van het nivo FC Eindhoven.
PSV moet er alles aan doen om Alex zelf voor de volle 100% te contracteren, indien dit niet het geval is. Want zonder Alex is PSV niet veel en daar heeft Hiddink ook 2 jaar opgeteerd.


Babel fish translation(a little crazy, but a smart guy like you can read):
ow, ow, ow, what missing we Alex! All players, who played seemed very good players beside Alex beside Alex (Bouma, Ooijer, da Costa, Salcido). Maaar Alex are not there ff and then prove to be these players of the nivo FC end courts. PSV must do everything Alex themselves for the full 100%, contract if the this case is not. Because without Alex PSV are not much, and Hiddink have opted there years also 2.

In this site also http://alexdacosta.web-log.nl/ the owner put several articles about Alex and PSV, and what a surprise(for you):
De kampioen op rapport

Alex 9.5

Hij opende de score in de kampioenswedstrijd en dat is geen toeval. Het succes van PSV hangt namelijk sterk af van de aanwezigheid van Alex. Tot aan het uitduel met Excelsior, waarin hij geblesseerd uitviel, had de ploeg een voorsprong van negen punten op de concurrentie en was er succes in de Champions League. Tijdens zijn absentie verdween PSV roemloos van het Europese toneel en verspeelde het in recordtempo zijn voorsprong in de Eredivisie. Mét de Braziliaan is de defensie van PSV een onneembare vesting, zónder hem een gatenkaas en blijven er twijfelende verdedigers over. Wat een geweldenaar!


Babel fish:
The champion on report:

Alex 9.5

He opened the score in the champion game and that is no chance. The success of PSV depends, as it happens, strongly of the presence of Alex. Until the uitduel with Excelsior, in which he burst out injured, the plough had a projection of nine points on the competition and was there success in the Champions League. During its absentie PSV disappeared inglorious of the European stage and gambled it in record tempo its projection in the eredivisie. With the braziliaan the defence of PSV is an impregnable blockhouse, zónder him a breach cheese and remains doubting verdedigers. What a violence ear!


Man, I could post here innumerable quotes of PSV fans about Alex of the first site( PSV Netwerk), but itīs unfair with other MM member that care less about this discussion. But, there you have 117 pages talking about Alex, and you can see that the guy is already a legend in Endihoven. And many consider Alex as the best defender to have played in PSV...But maybe you will say that PSV dutch fans are wrong and brainless, and that they donīt know nothing about PSV, right??
Samuca, I want you to show FACTS proving your points, and that Alex does not have level for the PSV, ok?? I gave to you 117 pages of PSV fans, and they all agree with my point...so, proves that you are right!!! Show me the quotes of PSV fans bashing the player, and saying that Alex donīt have level to play there??? Iīm wating
Well, you are just one more brazilian that makes Brazil seems to and be a dirty country, pretending that you are a good guy... pretending that you donīt swear people... pretending that you are smart...

Even lieing, even cheating... trying to seems to be a intelligent when you are so far from it

About Alex, I can show you a example about fans that start to down the level of own team being happy with low level players

Flamengo, a team that already had Zico, Júnior, Mozer, Leandro, Zizinho, Leonardo, Leônidas da Silva, Adílio... that winned Mundial against Liverpool by 3x0... well... today they are glad to can say that Juan, a low level deffender, borned in their team and they are heaps happy with titles like Copa do Brasil and Campeonato Carioca

PSV is so far so live the same situation but the truth is that even having a amazing history, this dutch team donīt have the team that deserved too

Happens the same with São Paulo, River Plate, Ajax, etc

I can show you too better deffenders than Alex that Milan maybe can hire: Barzagli, Cannavaro, Felipe, Lugano, Ayala, Samuel, Bordon, Metzelder, Cris, Chivu, Mexés, Mertesacker...

For sure Milan could win titles with Alex in the prime team, Real Madrid winned a Champions League with Helguera in the team, a good manager or a team with good team spirit are better than 11 stars but for sure Alex so far isnīt the best option for Milan when there are so much better players to hire

Actually PSV already had a high level team with Alex playing in the first 11 few years ago leaded by the fantastic Guus Hiddink

Learn something, child, your opinion isnīt the absolutly truth, pretend to be who you arenīt (good guy, smart, good knowledge about football, etc) isnīt ethical, opinions are better when people do by their own and not by based in opinions of another people and you donīt have ethic and knowledge about football to talk about "high level discussion" and complain or judge something

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Old 10-05-2007, 05:46   #33

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samuca, i'm with you on alex being overrated, but for the rest of your posts - i have to admit i have no idea what you are talking about
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:28   #34

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So Felipe just lost him deffensive skills because he isnīt even playing this year?

Representative brazilian attitude, even thinking that players are machines that canīt live bad momments

Another representative brazilian attitude by yourself, pretending that you are a good guy when you started the provocation...
No, players can have bad days, but Felipe is a average defender, period.
Another representative brazilian attitude?? , I really donīt understand whatīs your point...
BTW, you did not answer what I asked: where are the opinions of PSV fans saying that Alex donīt have level for PSV???


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...but in your last post you told that you will not injoy the game, so... what was that?
That post was offensive??? I dont think so...I didnīt call you brainless or attack your person, just said that the content of the post(not the poster) was dull, and was full of lies...and the truth is that one more time, you did not answer what I asked: where are the opinions of PSV fans saying that Alex donīt have level for PSV???


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Well, you are just one more brazilian that makes Brazil seems to and be a dirty country, pretending that you are a good guy... pretending that you donīt swear people... pretending that you are smart...

Even lieing, even cheating... trying to seems to be a intelligent when you are so far from it
What are you talking about???


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About Alex, I can show you a example about fans that start to down the level of own team being happy with low level players

Flamengo, a team that already had Zico, Júnior, Mozer, Leandro, Zizinho, Leonardo, Leônidas da Silva, Adílio... that winned Mundial against Liverpool by 3x0... well... today they are glad to can say that Juan, a low level deffender, borned in their team and they are heaps happy with titles like Copa do Brasil and Campeonato Carioca

PSV is so far so live the same situation but the truth is that even having a amazing history, this dutch team donīt have the team that deserved too

Happens the same with São Paulo, River Plate, Ajax, etc

For sure Milan could win titles with Alex in the prime team, Real Madrid winned a Champions League with Helguera in the team, a good manager or a team with good team spirit are better than 11 stars but for sure Alex so far isnīt the best option for Milan when there are so much better players to hire

Actually PSV already had a high level team with Alex playing in the first 11 few years ago leaded by the fantastic Guus Hiddink
http://psv.netwerk.to/forums/HTML/forum7/711-117.php
They(Dutch PSV fans), do not agree...but as you said, maybe they(DUTCH PSV FANS) are liars, brainless or something thus...


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I can show you too better deffenders than Alex that Milan maybe can hire: Barzagli, Cannavaro, Felipe, Lugano, Ayala, Samuel, Bordon, Metzelder, Cris, Chivu, Mexés, Mertesacker...
Carlo Ancelotti:
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Squadr...ncelotti.shtml
Il miglior portiere?
"Buffon. Poi vengono Dida e Cech".
Il miglior difensore?
"Nessun dubbio: Alex del Psv"
Il miglior centrocampista?
"Senza i milanisti, scelgo Lampard, Gerrard e De Rossi".
Il miglior attaccante?
"Drogba, Eto'o e Ibrahimovic".

On the official website of the Dutch national team headcoach Marco van Basten was asked to select the best players for a fantasy world team.
Here you can find his line-up (Van Basten found it improper to select Dutch players):
http://www.knvb.nl/home
---------------------------Buffon (Juventus)

Maicon (Inter Milan), Alex (PSV), Terry (Chelsea) and Abidal (Olympique Lyon)

Gerrard (Liverpool), Kaka (AC Milan) and Lampard (Chelsea)

Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United), Henry (Arsenal) and Ronaldinho (Barcelona)

Yep, these 2 Milan legends have zero knowledge about football

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Learn something, child, your opinion isnīt the absolutly truth, pretend to be who you arenīt (good guy, smart, good knowledge about football, etc) isnīt ethical, opinions are better when people do by their own and not by based in opinions of another people and you donīt have ethic and knowledge about football to talk about "high level discussion" and complain or judge something
Nice try
Look, I read your post with extreme patience, and you did not answer what I asked. But finaly I found something worth: My opinion isnīt the absolutly truth, youīre right!! And therefore, I gave to you 117 pages of a Dutch PSV forum to prove my points...
Man, I gave you 117 pages of the biggest PSV forum in the web, and this is the best you can do???
Look, Iīm a fair guy...Maybe thats 117 pages about Alex wasnīt enough...so, try here:
http://forum.psv.nl/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?category=1
Iīm wating

P.S. Iīm a child??? Thanks
BTW, just for curiosity, how old are you??

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Old 10-05-2007, 09:33   #35

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Guys don't make this personal and avoid the swearing. You obviously have differing opinions on Alex and Felipe, and the discussion is pretty good, so by all means debate, but let's keep it civil
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samuca, i'm with you on alex being overrated, but for the rest of your posts - i have to admit i have no idea what you are talking about
thank God Iīm not the only one
why I did not read its opinion before writing?

In Stitch and Jim opinion, Alex is overrated...fair enough.
But to say that the guy donīt have level for PSV?? And after to see PSV fans opinions?? I really donīt agree...

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Guys don't make this personal and avoid the swearing. You obviously have differing opinions on Alex and Felipe, and the discussion is pretty good, so by all means debate, but let's keep it civil
Warning taken, ACMILAN1983
Sorry for the F word my friends of MM...some times this expressions of day to day leave without wanting
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No worries, this is the first time I've seen you and Samuca get angry at all, so I'm not too worried about things going any further
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In Stitch and Jim opinion, Alex is overrated...fair enough.
I only think he's overrated becuase in the few games i watched him, he played averagely at best. But i don't watch him week in week out so i can't really say to much about him with any certainty. That said i've still mentioned him as the cb to get for us this summer Well, unless a super expensive cb (terry, carvalho, etc) is suddenly being offered in a half-price sale
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Alex is a chump, there is only 1 defender Milan need this summer and he is available on a free too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgnWp...elated&search=



If its true that Alex can now qualify for Chelsea then its hard to see them not taking him over to the Bridge this summer. They are a centre back short and have the option on him, and he is quite naturally suited to the EPL. If they didnt intend on taking him back this summer then i think they would have let PSV sell him to a bigger club by now.

Of Samuca's list the 2 that really stand out to me are Chivu and Barzagli, they have the key ingredients of experience of Serie A, relative youth, obvious quality and big game temperament.
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I only think he's overrated becuase in the few games i watched him, he played averagely at best. But i don't watch him week in week out so i can't really say to much about him with any certainty. That said i've still mentioned him as the cb to get for us this summer Well, unless a super expensive cb (terry, carvalho, etc) is suddenly being offered in a half-price sale
I know, Jim
As you said, in your list of future Cb Alex is always there...in the near future, you will be 100% in Alex bandwagon

Although I like both defenders, IMO Carvalho is the best player. Said this, Carvalho is a redundancy for our defence. We have Nesta(and Kaladze) as this type of defender...and we really need a BIG guy to pair with Nesta.
IMO we are too weak in aerial game, and also needs a bruiser to play against big, physical fowards
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If its true that Alex can now qualify for Chelsea.
How can he suddenly qualify to work in England? This i don't get at all. He didn't meet the requirements in January so how can the situation have changed all of a sudden?
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And i'm back. When you mess with Brasileiro, you mess with me!

I saw at my website some visitors from this site, so it was time to get back.

Indead, you can't find any PSV fan who's not a big fan of Alex.
In all objectivity , Alex is by far the best defender i've seen playing for the last 10 years. And then i mean defending. Maybe there are defenders who have better passes across 40 metres, but when you look purely at defending, there's no better one.
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