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Old 12-06-2008, 17:53   #4921

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On top of that, Porto has been accused of matchfixing in the year Moanin' Ho led them to CL glory (2003-04).

Overall, great post.
lost in semifinals to liverpool twice. Once on a goal that SHOULDNT HAVE counted.... everyone has seen that game. BS call.

2nd time in pk's which is luck.

He didnt get embarassed by deportivo or arsenal or liverpool like ancelotti. He also won league for the first time for chelsea in 50 years.... back to back years... and his 2nd place year was just BARELY. Mourinho is top 5 coaches in the world alive. And probably best coach under age of 50. He may be load and obnoxious but results are unparalleled
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Old 12-06-2008, 17:57   #4922

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The few times I saw him, each time, he made a big mistake ... it didn't always cost them the 3 points (of course, in Netherlands, you have PSV, Ajax, sometimes Feyenord and nothing else), but seriously, he can be amazing on one match and horrible the following one, and sometimes, he can be amazing AND horrible in the same match lol.

Anyway, just my point of view, others can think what they want about Gomes lol, I just wouldn't be happy if he was our next GK because I know I would be afraid again at each match ...
I can't say I agree with you. I'll let others make the decision. He has made several records in his tournament, and if it wasn't to the PSV defense, PSV would have gone further in the UEFA Cup. I've heard only great things about him mostly...

I would be happy with him or Frey.
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Old 12-06-2008, 18:00   #4923

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lost in semifinals to liverpool twice. Once on a goal that SHOULDNT HAVE counted.... everyone has seen that game. BS call.

2nd time in pk's which is luck.

He didnt get embarassed by deportivo or arsenal or liverpool like ancelotti. He also won league for the first time for chelsea in 50 years.... back to back years... and his 2nd place year was just BARELY. Mourinho is top 5 coaches in the world alive. And probably best coach under age of 50. He may be load and obnoxious but results are unparalleled
Are you kidding me? Are you actually saying what I think you are? Ancelotti won the CL twice. That's far more than what Chelsea has ever done. And Liverpool, that was on penalty kicks... could have gone either way... which you say is luck lol.

Mourinho is a vastly overrated coach. What did he win Chelsea internationally? Nothing. And Ancelotti brought Milan to success at a far greater than Chelsea internationally... far many more times in the semi-finals and finals.

I think it's absolutely wrong and a total embarrassment to even call Mourinho better than Ancelotti. Chelsea wanted Ancelotti, as did several other clubs.

You say that Milan fell to Deportivo, Liverpool and Arsenal. What about the other times it was successful in beating ManU (which Chelsea couldn't do), or Liverpool (which Chelsea couldn't do)? And the one year Chelsea did get to the CL final was with Avram Grant, who in my opinion is better than Mourinho. He scrapped together a team, managed 2nd place domestically and managed a 2nd place win in the CL which was totally lost on luck... Chelsea could have won the CL if it wasn't for Terry missing.

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Old 12-06-2008, 18:11   #4924

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Are you kidding me? Are you actually saying what I think you are? Ancelotti won the CL twice. That's far more than what Chelsea has ever done. And Liverpool, that was on penalty kicks... could have gone either way... which you say is luck lol.

Mourinho is a vastly overrated coach. What did he win Chelsea internationally? Nothing. And Ancelotti brought Milan to success at a far greater than Chelsea internationally... far many more times in the semi-finals and finals.

I think it's absolutely wrong and a total embarrassment to even call Mourinho better than Ancelotti. Chelsea wanted Ancelotti, as did several other clubs.
he was there 3 years. won 2 epl titles. 2 fa cups. a league cup. Lost TWICE in semi finals to Liverpool. `1 time was a joke.... 2005. that goal didnt go in and they counted it, you know what i mean. He is a GREAT coach.

stop living in denial. Mourinho will win a champions league soon too.
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you can not like mourinho. i dont blame you. but saying hes not good is ridiculous
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Old 12-06-2008, 18:14   #4926

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he was there 3 years. won 2 epl titles. 2 fa cups. a league cup. Lost TWICE in semi finals to Liverpool. `1 time was a joke.... 2005. that goal didnt go in and they counted it, you know what i mean. He is a GREAT coach.

stop living in denial. Mourinho will win a champions league soon too.
You can't even stack up credentials when you have no clue on what you're talking about.

Ancelotti won 1 Coppa Italia, 1 Serie A Title, 1 Italian Super-Cup, 2 Champions Leagues Titles, 2 UEFA Super Cups and 1 World Club Cup and that's with Milan.

Domestically they are pretty even. Internationally... totally different story.

And as far as I'm concerned Inter will not be winning the champions league because they ALWAYS CHOKE INTERNATIONALLY. Mourinho is utterly useless, and stacks up nothing against Ancelotti.

The guy is a so damn overrated.
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you can not like mourinho. i dont blame you. but saying hes not good is ridiculous
He's decent, but he has nothing on Ancelotti. Do not even go there. I know you don't like Ancelotti but frankly I don't care... Ancelotti has done countless good things for Milan... yes he could have focused more on domestically... but still.

And frankly by your logic, Mancini is a better coach than Mourinho too...
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Old 12-06-2008, 18:37   #4928

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in all honestly.... tim howard
I watched the game two days ago (US against Argentina), he was UNBEATABLE. But maybe it was just "his day".
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He's decent, but he has nothing on Ancelotti. Do not even go there. I know you don't like Ancelotti but frankly I don't care... Ancelotti has done countless good things for Milan... yes he could have focused more on domestically... but still.

And frankly by your logic, Mancini is a better coach than Mourinho too...

mourinho won champions league with PORTO! that is more impressive than any other victory
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I watched the game two days ago (US against Argentina), he was UNBEATABLE. But maybe it was just "his day".

he was best keeper in epl all year. He is pretty dominant. of course he'll get no respect in this forum cause hes american
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mourinho won champions league with PORTO! that is more impressive than any other victory
Ancelotti has won the champions league twice with Milan, and was a finalist another year.
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Old 12-06-2008, 18:47   #4932

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Absolutely not.

I've already seen Milan make several acquirements already... so what's the problem here?
it was a joke, i thought that was clear
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Old 12-06-2008, 18:51   #4933

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it was a joke, i thought that was clear
Sorry. I've just been a bit frustrated recently... computer problems. First my desktop, then my laptop... didn't mean to lash out at you. Luckily both are working fine now... but I hate it... spending hours fixing problems.. =/
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BORUC. after watching the poland game (and losing $500 in the 93rd minute), it is obvious that boruc is an amazing talent. I wonder if celtic will raise his price, but he is superb. With carlo coming out and saying we cant afford boruc, im starting to think we will probably buy him. As long as he maintains the same from with milan, we should be good in goal for another 3-5 years.
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Old 12-06-2008, 20:23   #4935

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Can we please stop the Mourinho v Ancelotti debate?

We are supposed to be discussing transfers rite?

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