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Old 25-08-2008, 13:43   #106

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John I love and admire your passion and concern into the trials and tribulations of this club.
Unfortunatley I disagree with your assessment. Dont get me wrong. What you are saying may indeed be true.
Now that he is a part of this team. He and the rest of the players who may or should have been done and gone with this club need our support.
Sometimes the batch that we have turns up being sour grapes and our mouths come bitter. BUT sometimes the batch or at least part of it becomes fine wine and it is worth savoring the flavor.
We dont know really what will happen come May 2009. As Dev, you and a whole lot of others have argued.... YES I AGREE....we do need some strong rebuilding. The pyramids werent built in a day, month, year, or even a decade. This doesnt mean that they were beset with misfortune because it took so long. I'm sure great things happen when and during and throughout that entire time.
Afford the same ideal that I have just set before you all to this club and its players.
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Kui i like mate that you are understanding the point of my words
and as you said "YES I AGREE....we do need some strong rebuilding" that rebuilding i want, i want the best choice for our club. But in Sheva's subject is that he left us for more moneys when here he was the KING and the best striker of the world.And then our managment decides to sign him again for second time when he already is 32 because he is a crap player for Chelsea?Why?For bench?They don't think the club's confidence?So many good strikers are around the world why him?
But as you said "We dont know really what will happen come May 2009" then i can't tell anything else from these comments, i will wait until then.But my opinion is that we shouldn't buy $heva back.
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Old 25-08-2008, 14:36   #107

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Yoannis, I see this new Sheva as our next Pippo...

Pippo is maybe on his last season... and we can always use someone like him... remember Pippo and Sheva are 2 of the 3 top scorers in Europe ever (the other one is Raul)... and Sheva at 32-33 can be what Pippo has been the last 2 years for us... always ready for the big game... and I think Sheva in red/black is a different player... hopefully he can prove me right soon...

He started losing himself shortly after becoming a father... maybe not because of that, but about the same time... remember his wife used to be Berlusconi's son girlfriend (ouch)... then he changed himself, he even changed his looks... and "best MM's pundit, Zeekay" would say, his looks change how he perceives himself on the field...

did you realize he stopped taping his ankles? and stopped wearing the light colored Lotto shoes he wore for years? lost some leg muscle volume, etc.

Look at the pictures of his arrival to Milano yesterday... his face reveals a change, he does look older, but notice he doesn't have any fat on his face... if Milan trainers can just bring his legs back to shape, he should be back as his old self...
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Old 25-08-2008, 15:01   #108

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Yoannis, I see this new Sheva as our next Pippo...

Pippo is maybe on his last season... and we can always use someone like him... remember Pippo and Sheva are 2 of the 3 top scorers in Europe ever (the other one is Raul)... and Sheva at 32-33 can be what Pippo has been the last 2 years for us... always ready for the big game... and I think Sheva in red/black is a different player... hopefully he can prove me right soon...

He started losing himself shortly after becoming a father... maybe not because of that, but about the same time... remember his wife used to be Berlusconi's son girlfriend (ouch)... then he changed himself, he even changed his looks... and "best MM's pundit, Zeekay" would say, his looks change how he perceives himself on the field...

did you realize he stopped taping his ankles? and stopped wearing the light colored Lotto shoes he wore for years? lost some leg muscle volume, etc.

Look at the pictures of his arrival to Milano yesterday... his face reveals a change, he does look older, but notice he doesn't have any fat on his face... if Milan trainers can just bring his legs back to shape, he should be back as his old self...


What????????? Sheva's wife was Berlusconi's son girlfriend! I didn't know that! Wow!

I got your point and how good and importan he can be for the club,i agree with you about that points, but my thoughts are .......
I hoped for him to hadn't comed back to Milan after leaving us just for some money and with a bad excuse.I didn't want to see him againg in Milan shirt.He was my favorite player with Maldini.I loved him very much as a player and for the good things that he have done for us.
He made his wrong choice going to Chelsea, but he wasn't a litle boy without a head, he was a 30 years old matured player with family.I can't like him again like the past in such a short time after coming again with us. It will take me a big time to change my mind about him. That only i can say about him.

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Old 26-08-2008, 03:41   #109

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Yoannis, I see this new Sheva as our next Pippo...

Pippo is maybe on his last season... and we can always use someone like him... remember Pippo and Sheva are 2 of the 3 top scorers in Europe ever (the other one is Raul)... and Sheva at 32-33 can be what Pippo has been the last 2 years for us... always ready for the big game... and I think Sheva in red/black is a different player... hopefully he can prove me right soon...

He started losing himself shortly after becoming a father... maybe not because of that, but about the same time... remember his wife used to be Berlusconi's son girlfriend (ouch)... then he changed himself, he even changed his looks... and "best MM's pundit, Zeekay" would say, his looks change how he perceives himself on the field...

did you realize he stopped taping his ankles? and stopped wearing the light colored Lotto shoes he wore for years? lost some leg muscle volume, etc.

Look at the pictures of his arrival to Milano yesterday... his face reveals a change, he does look older, but notice he doesn't have any fat on his face... if Milan trainers can just bring his legs back to shape, he should be back as his old self...
My big question : Does he have heart and spirit like Pippo?

Spirit that can make Pippo younger than he actually is? Heart that forces Pippo to keep running and finding space to score? There are only few players that can play like Pippo in such age (over 32 years old).

I also think about Sheva as the new Inzaghi but my doubt is only if Sheva has same spirit like Inzaghi?
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Old 26-08-2008, 04:04   #110

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I'm not worried about the spirit but I"m more worried about physical deterioration. Physical fitness is less of an issue for Pippo (or Gila), but certainly so for players like sheva, kaka`, and even Pato...
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Old 26-08-2008, 04:13   #111

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Sheva is Sheva, I actually had a dream last nite that he scored for Milan in his first game back with Pirlo giving the assist from the right just outside the box.

Well, put it this way, Sheva cannot be as bad as R99, so thats a bonus.
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Old 26-08-2008, 04:20   #112

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I'm not worried about the spirit but I"m more worried about physical deterioration. Physical fitness is less of an issue for Pippo (or Gila), but certainly so for players like sheva, kaka`, and even Pato...
I dont know, for me spirit and fitness can't be seperated. If you have the right spirit, you will mantain your fitnes and form, just like Inzaghi. Maybe there was no people or at least only few people predict Pippo (by looking on his fitnes in that time) can play till his age right now. Inzaghi was not like a type of Essien, Gattuso etc who were clearly had very good physical fitness, but he maintain his fitnes till a very old age for a striker. Is it really his fitness like that? Or is it his spirit which maintains his fitnes? For me both are in unity.
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Old 26-08-2008, 13:34   #113

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hahaha sheva is the new inzaghi now? both formed one of the most successful frontlines in the history of AC Milan. one completes the other. or you really think that Pato will be on the first 11?
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Old 27-08-2008, 01:17   #114

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will Sheva link with kaka transfer

Sheva is back with, but left many unanswered question.because Roman Abramawich so many time sheva transfer to milan with kaka to chelsea. I dont know but get the feeling that their is agreement that next seaon may kaka goes the other way? although Adriano Galliani insists there is no agreement for Chelsea to sign Kaka in the future.
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Old 27-08-2008, 02:08   #115

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MILAN - Before the start of the reunion at the Lega Calcio offices, Adriano Galliani also talked about Kaká: "In the negotiation for Shevchenko, there was never, ever talk of Kaká. The fans must be calm because we've been saying it for two years."
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Old 27-08-2008, 02:27   #116

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hahaha sheva is the new inzaghi now? both formed one of the most successful frontlines in the history of AC Milan. one completes the other. or you really think that Pato will be on the first 11?
If he deserves it he will be. Currently, he is probably our most prolific and in shape striker.
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Old 27-08-2008, 02:55   #117

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I agree; it's not age, experience, but form. Whoever is fittest will play.
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Old 27-08-2008, 04:26   #118

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well.. then lets just hope FORM is temporary while CLASS is permanent
welcome back Andriy Shevchenko. looking forward for your ordinary goals
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Old 27-08-2008, 05:38   #119

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..I can't like him again like the past in such a short time after coming again with us. It will take me a big time to change my mind about him. That only i can say about him.

The time will show.
Thanks for being candid and honest in your feelings regarding his return Keone (hawaiian for John, Giovanni, Ian, Johan and Yoannis). I am glad that he is back. And although you and I have different feelings about his return, I agree that he has a lot of make up to undo the hurt and damage that came with his departure.
Yes time will show. Hopefully sooner than later.

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well.. then lets just hope FORM is temporary while CLASS is permanent
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