Winter Mercato

The Guardian and The Telegraph are not goal.com and other English crap medias. Their articles are well built, but again, the one from The Guardian seems not to have any sense for example: they start by saying that it's Milan that created all that story (it could be true, we're a lot to have checked every minute Italian websites, some of them are owned by Berlu), that nothing is really true in that story, but their entire end is about Kaka' conditions to join them ... what to think ? The start or the end is true ?

About The Telegraph, this article is simply logical: by taking Kaka' at such a high price, you don't have to be very smart to know that some players in Premiership would be our targets (even if I'd like us to bring back in Italy someone like G.Rossi from Villareal too for example) ... so Premiership would take the best player, but they would possibly lose established players and young stars. And it will be the case for each new transfer from Manchester City.
Also, like they say, after each transfer, it will be each time more difficult to take another player as the clubs having sold players will have money, a better image and better short-term objectives (let's face it, Manchester City will try to get their players from the clubs already established in Champions League as the main stars are in these clubs), so they could compete with Manchester City for the same players then ...

it seems real has joined the "party"!!

http://www.goal.com/en/news/722/la-l...or-kaka-report

im sure its crap..media are responsible for 90% of this mess..

If it's true, that would mean that Madrid wants to remain the record purchaser in football history !!

But I'm sure it's false too ... the fact is that they say "Madrid are willing to": again, who does the information comes from, is it official or is it a supporter who said something like that, etc ...

Like I said, this Kaka' saga is a race between medias to have the next scoop and boost their audience ...

Originally Posted by GeoTav

They are writing about the different transfers that MC tries to negotiate [...] Dida (lol, and if the negotiations were only about him ?!)

Man City inquired about Dida as a ploy to get to what they really wanted: Kaka. In essence, Milan opened the front door to a total stranger without looking through the peephole first.

WEll, can't blame Galli for wanting to sell Dida.

I really think Kaka is staying guys and will be MIlan Captain next year.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

WEll, can't blame Galli for wanting to sell Dida.

I really think Kaka is staying guys and will be MIlan Captain next year.

Hope you are Right my friend

Originally Posted by Rick

Why do you assume that Milan won't finish in a Champions League spot without Kaka? Are the rest of Milan's players such crap that they can't finish ahead of Napoli, Fiorentina, Genoa and Lazio without Kaka? Even if defensive reinforcements are brought in this winter? Is Milan a one-man team? If Milan's success or failure this season rests solely on the shoulders of Kaka, then the future is pretty bleak anyway.

If you have seen this team play over the last couple of years, then you would know that this is a one man team. Make no mistake about it, our entire offense is built on Kaka's abilities. Do you honestly believe that a team consisting of players such as Kaladze, Borriello, Favalli, Abbiatti, Seedorf, Jankulovski and Ambrosini in the starting 11 will actually finish ahead of Napoli, Fiorentina and Lazio? The success of this team has been on the shoulders of Kaka ever since the brilliant move made by the management to sell Shevchenko and let Ibrahimovic sign with Inter. At this moment in time, this team has no future, which is why so many people are screaming for reinforcements and talking about players everyday here.

First of all the thing about the Telegraph is actually a very reliable article, b/c they actually have valid source, so when they say they spoke to an advisor, I am pretty sure they actually did. Whether or not that advisor was telling the truth, thats another story.
From the telegraph article, it shows one thing, Berlu and Galli are really setting themselves up as HERO/SAINT or the ultimate GOAT. Imagine, Kaka's stay, which I am sure he will, people will think he loves Milan but while at the same time b/c he knows City will bring him nothing but money and thats why he did not go. But on the other hand, even though it was Kaka who rejected the deal, Berlu and Galli will twist and turn to make themselves look like teh HERO, as despite all these financial problems we kept our tradition.....

I strongly believe that Berlu and Galli will not make themselves villians b/c they have never done that, as they always want to look good. Bad transfer just make them look stupid but not villians.

well if Milan think only about the money.. then it would be much better berlu sell the Club, at least a dozen Billionaire from Middle East would buy it!!!!!

last night galliani refused to comment if real made an offer or not

but what if real says they offer sergio, gago and 50mlns
or what if inter offers ibra+20mlns or maicon, adriano and 50mlns

i would definetly take one of this offers in consideration

One player + money for one player is already difficult (because you have two contracts to agree !!), so two players + money for one player ... and let's not forget we are near the end of JANUARY (so two players who are starters in a current CL team going to a team being in UEFA Cup in the middle of the year and who have to negociate a contract ?!): we're not in Football Manager !! And even in this game, doing such a deal is very difficult or almost impossible !!

Galliani didn't refuse to comment about Real Madrid, he just said he had no idea right now if it was true or not that Madrid made an offer ... and the "news" (rumours) appeared on the web around 1:00-2:00 in the night !! So it wasn't a lie I think ...

And Zakhakan, would you like Milan to be involved in 80+M transfers ? Personnally, I wouldn't ... money is an integral part of football nowadays, and we used a lot to make our team, but it's still less than Chelsea and other teams in Europe, and we are the most entitled team in the world despite that. I think it's because we have an identity, not like Chelsea for example, I don't like MU but I was ... not happy but almost to see Chelsea losing in final and in every other competition last year because of Manchester United (that team has an identity, they are in football history), it will be the same for Manchester City and all the other clubs built thanks to "100+M mercatos" (when you add the prices of the players they buy).

About Kaka', all we know thanks to yesterday and the last declarations is that we know nothing about all that "saga" !!

What Galliani's reason about dept paying is crap alibi (with Kaka's money). Since calciopoli the management ist only crap. They didn't buy players when they need it and when they still have money (resources of money : CL, image of CL's winner etc). And then they buy many players (but with bad quality) when they aren't playing CL.

What I can take from the board now : Galliani co. will spend if only Milan fail, if Milan do good job than no player will come even Milan really need it!

Originally Posted by Siregar

What Galliani's reason about dept paying is crap alibi (with Kaka's money). Since calciopoli the management ist only crap. They didn't buy players when they need it and when they still have money (resources of money : CL, image of CL's winner etc). And then they buy many players (but with bad quality) when they aren't playing CL.

What I can take from the board now : Galliani co. will spend if only Milan fail, if Milan do good job than no player will come even Milan really need it!

Abbiati
Zambrotta
Antonini
Thiago Silva
Mattioni
Flamini
Beckham (loan)
Ronaldinho
Borriello
Shevchenko

Where's bad quality here ? Apart from Sheva of course ...
The others are good quality players, not excellent for moment, but good.

Then, if our management says we have a debt, it's because we have a debt, why would they lie about that ?? Let's stop doing like if we knew everything better than the people running the club ...
You know that there is a crisis, if all rumours we have read about Liverpool and Valencia (banks wanting to have their money back before the end of the season) was for some banks true with us ? If a bank told us to give them back 50M before June, don't you think it's a reason to consider any big offer coming at us ? Or maybe do you prefer to see Milan become the Parma of the next years ?

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Abbiati
Zambrotta
Antonini
Thiago Silva
Mattioni
Flamini
Beckham (loan)
Ronaldinho
Borriello
Shevchenko

Where's bad quality here ? Apart from Sheva of course ...
The others are good quality players, not excellent for moment, but good.

Then, if our management says we have a debt, it's because we have a debt, why would they lie about that ?? Let's stop doing like if we knew everything better than the people running the club ...

For me :
- Sheva = very bad
- R80, Zambrotta, Beckham, Senderos = bad (old and/or underperformed players)
- Boriello, Abbiati = average players
- Flamini = good player
- Antonini = he is only for backup, it's ok
- Viudez, Cardaccio = unknown
- Mattioni = unknown but credit to management for being able getting him especially on loan with option to buy
- Thiago Silva = for next season, he gives no impact for this season

Of course it's logic if we have debts, we bought many players this season but we don't play CL. Very logic. But who made this? This is the problem.

If you stop like knowing better than board, CLOSE THIS FORUM! As the information here is only opinion from fans, not from the experts (board, coach etc).

City denies the offer...