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Originally Posted by brk

No, I meant which two attackers.


Also, What the hell is wrong with Borriello anyway?

Considering the movements Pato makes I'd play him and Pippo upfront, Pato playing deeper of course, as he tends to do.

Boriello is preparing to be loaned out Seriousely, I dont know which injury it is...

I tottaly forgot Kaladze is still injured. And Bonera is not match fit yet, so Favalli will play.

And pleeease Nesta come back to playing soon...

P.S.

When I think about Viudez ( who is ok player actually ) and $heva taking non eu place for Thiago I go mad Too bad really...he could solve many things now.

Sorry for one mroe post:

Reports in Italy say Carlo is not satisfied with Dinhos movements and is asking from him to run more. He feels Dinho didnt use Dubai preparations well anough, as it was planned. I agree, if he cant run, bench him.

Originally Posted by mrki

Sorry for one mroe post:

Reports in Italy say Carlo is not satisfied with Dinhos movements and is asking from him to run more. He feels Dinho didnt use Dubai preparations well anough, as it was planned. I agree, if he cant run, bench him.

These are very confusing reports. Why wouldnt Dinho want to do well and train hard after what happened with Barca? Ever since Pirlo got healthy and came back into the lineup things have been weird..

I just dont understand why Milan spend money on these players to sit them on the bench. I only care that we win games with whoever we start in the lineup but if we signed Flamini, Dinho, Sheva, etc then i want to see these players play not the same old Seedorf, Pirlo, emerson, ambro line ups.

FYi, R80 was sick since Dubai and waswn't able to train consistently.

I have a feeling Ronnie is starting this game. I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but this season Carlo has been playing so many little mind games on the media. The Beckham debut being an obvious one, but I also seem to recall a lot more instances where he says something to intentionally manipulate the conventional wisdom of the press.

Or maybe i'm seeing something that isn't there...

Originally Posted by Siregar

So did Kaka, Silva, etc when they moved to Milan.

The most important thing that they moved to a bigger club (to Milan) compare to their past club. Wether it's about money or other no one can know except the players.

You didn't get my point there ...
My message wasn't on the choice to come here but on the choice to leave his former club (he wanted a contract as high as the one of Fabregas, Arsenal didn't want, that's it).

Then, I'd like of course Flamini on the pitch instead of the bench ...

Originally Posted by brk

I have a feeling Ronnie is starting this game. I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but this season Carlo has been playing so many little mind games on the media. The Beckham debut being an obvious one, but I also seem to recall a lot more instances where he says something to intentionally manipulate the conventional wisdom of the press.

Or maybe i'm seeing something that isn't there...

Calciomercato has a report saying that Ancelotti met Dinho to speak about the current situation ... and that he will maybe put him on the pitch.

Anyway, I prefer seeing a half of Ronaldinho despite his poor form than Seedorf with his current horrible form ...

Originally Posted by Reza

This isn't the place for this and it's very much after fact but I will check and try to find out about Dutchie-Milan's account issue. As far as banning yes it was close and may be should have been and I should take this opportunity to ask Dutchie-Milan and everyone to please refrain from insulting.

Forza Milan, after a 'win' in the transfer sagas it would disappointing not to get a good response for this and upcoming matches.

Sorry, Reza. I will behave. Just upset with the way that this dude treated Dev.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

About Dida, even if he plays well, we can't play with a depressed GK anymore ?! He doesn't give any confidence to his partners, even after 10 saves because of his face who seems to say "I'm unhappy to have to save you guys !!" or "why can't I sleep on the bench ?" or "I'm angry, I don't want to work" ... of course, I'm just joking here but Abbiati shows motivation, what Dida doesn't do.

Geo, don't you think you're generalizing a little? Confidence, perhaps, but it has nothing to do with motivation, and you can't really tell someone's demeanor just by what you see on TV. His robotic on-pitch personality has been such long before he joined Milan and during his period of being one of the top 3 GKs on the planet. It's part taking every match seriously and part psyching out opponents, especially during PKs; the latter worked wonders on Juve in the '03 CL final.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Calciomercato has a report saying that Ancelotti met Dinho to speak about the current situation ... and that he will maybe put him on the pitch.

Anyway, I prefer seeing a half of Ronaldinho despite his poor form than Seedorf with his current horrible form ...

I share your sentiments Geo!!

Originally Posted by GeoTav

You didn't get my point there ...
My message wasn't on the choice to come here but on the choice to leave his former club (he wanted a contract as high as the one of Fabregas, Arsenal didn't want, that's it).

Then, I'd like of course Flamini on the pitch instead of the bench ...

I do get your point. How can you know that he left for money? You should look at the situation with him more detail.

If in Arsenal he wanted to have wage increase, it's very logic. Before he suited in the centre-midfield position, he had been an uncertain-positioned player. He played in many positions and played avergely to well. But since he played regularly in CM position (2007/08), he became one of best DM in England if not in the world.

About if he wanted wage as Fabregas has, I still doubt it. What I can say from his situation is that he wanted to be respected like Wenger respects Fabregas. But Wenger didn't do it. Flamini's contract ended at the end of season 200/08, why Wenger kept so long to renew that contract? Wenger must know that in January Flamini was free to discuss his future with other clubs. Ok, he didn't played like Fabregas before 2007/08 but he didn't do so bad.

The clear facts in his situation are :
- Wenger didn't renew his contract at the beginning of the season
- Flamini did extremely well as CM
- Since January he was free to discuss his contract
- Juventus and Milan (who were interested in him) are much bigger club than Arsenal

What kind of result does anyone hope from those facts? A loyal player who thinks that the coach can do what ever he wants to the player? No!

So, what Flamini did is just like what Kaka, Thiago Silva or other Brasilian players (who played in South American when they moved to bigger club in Europe) did. They moved to a bigger club.

Originally Posted by Blacktop

Geo, don't you think you're generalizing a little? Confidence, perhaps, but it has nothing to do with motivation, and you can't really tell someone's demeanor just by what you see on TV. His robotic on-pitch personality has been such long before he joined Milan and during his period of being one of the top 3 GKs on the planet. It's part taking every match seriously and part psyching out opponents, especially during PKs; the latter worked wonders on Juve in the '03 CL final.

As I said it in the post: I was joking ... so of course, if you take it on first degree, that looked more stupid than funny.

But anyway, to be more serious, the attitude of a GK is very important: you see some GKs, when they do amazing saves, they clap their hands (themselves of with partners), they show signs, Abbiati smiles for example.
When you're a defender, when you see that your GK has pleasure to play, that the guy speaks to you, encourage you (or screams sometimes against you), you are more confident than when your GK doesn't speak at all, seems concentrated (if you want, but I saw a video of the guys coming to San Siro for a Serie A game, Dida was the only guy who wasn't smiling with anyone, nor saluted the fans and San Siro workers and don't tell me it has to do with concentration, I don't think you have to be so much concentrated before a game that you will pass on the bench).

And as far as I remember, Dida seemed more involved, had a better attitude until some years ago ... especially until 2005 and the incident against Inter (until this moment, he was still very good).

Originally Posted by Siregar

I do get your point. How can you know that he left for money? You should look at the situation with him more detail.

If in Arsenal he wanted to have wage increase, it's very logic. Before he suited in the centre-midfield position, he had been an uncertain-positioned player. He played in many positions and played avergely to well. But since he played regularly in CM position (2007/08), he became one of best DM in England if not in the world.

About if he wanted wage as Fabregas has, I still doubt it. What I can say from his situation is that he wanted to be respected like Wenger respects Fabregas. But Wenger didn't do it. Flamini's contract ended at the end of season 200/08, why Wenger kept so long to renew that contract? Wenger must know that in January Flamini was free to discuss his future with other clubs. Ok, he didn't played like Fabregas before 2007/08 but he didn't do so bad.

The clear facts in his situation are :
- Wenger didn't renew his contract at the beginning of the season
- Flamini did extremely well as CM
- Since January he was free to discuss his contract
- Juventus and Milan (who were interested in him) are much bigger club than Arsenal

What kind of result does anyone hope from those facts? A loyal player who thinks that the coach can do what ever he wants to the player? No!

So, what Flamini did is just like what Kaka, Thiago Silva or other Brasilian players (who played in South American when they moved to bigger club in Europe) did. They moved to a bigger club.

Wenger said a contract was prepared for him before this time but it didn't respond to the too high wage demands of Flamini. Wenger also said (it seems like they aren't friends anymore ... people really want Wenger in Milan ? Think about it lol): Flamini made one good season and he wanted to be paid like Fabregas who has been a starter for years.

Anyway, it's the problem of Arsenal, not ours ... as he has chosen us and is on our bench !!

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Wenger said a contract was prepared for him before this time but it didn't respond to the too high wage demands of Flamini. Wenger also said (it seems like they aren't friends anymore ... people really want Wenger in Milan ? Think about it lol): Flamini made one good season and he wanted to be paid like Fabregas who has been a starter for years.

We didn't know if what Wenger said is a truth or not. What we know is that Wenger didn't renew Flam's contract (gave contract and get accepted by player) at the beginning of season 07/08. About Flamini wanted wages like Fabregas, like I said I doubt it. What we can say here is that Wenger can say what ever he wants to say, like City's president did with Kaka-to-City's move

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Anyway, it's the problem of Arsenal, not ours ... as he has chosen us and is on our bench !!

Yeah, it's very logic. As long as Ancelotti is the coach, new players will face a very tough job to get playing regularly except the player is the 'recommendation' of Berlusconi. As long as beloved players of Carlo still play for Milan, they will always play no matter how bad they are.

Flamini situation: You play for Arsenal and you have a realistic chance to join AC Milan, a better club....then you join Milan Simple explanation, in short

if Dinho is not ready he should not play. Its good that there are no fights, just talks between Carlo and Dinho. Ancelotti is good in that departmane, he can handle people well ( SEEEE, I SAID SOMETHING NICE ABOUT HIM!!). But tactically he is an idiot...

Anyway, I'd play 2 up front, plus Pirlo and Seedorf in the middle. We have too much quality in our team and should not let points slip up now when Juve is playing Viola and Merda playing Doria and without Ibra.

Forza Milan!