Inter Milan vs AC Milan

The schedule for the next weeks could launch again the battle for the Scudetto actually ... here is my vision of the next games.

Our 5 next games:

Milan-Cagliari (=> 3 points needed)
Sampdoria-Milan (=> 3 points needed, but possibly 1 point)
Milan-Atalanta (=> 3 points needed)
Sienna-Milan (=> 3 points needed)
Napoli-Milan (=> 3 points or 1 point depending on their form)

=> In worst cases, I expect 11 points for us ...

Inter 5 next games (I'm going to tell what I'd like to happen by trying to be realistic):

Bologna-Inter (Bologna can draw, they are in good form)
Inter-Roma (draw)
Genoa-Inter (draw)
Inter-Fiorentina (draw)
Inter-Reggina (3 points for Inter)

=> This way, they would win 7 points ...

If this scenario was to happen, we would be back at 7 points ...

For Juventus:

Palermo-Juventus (3 points for Juventus)
Juventus-Napoli (3 points for Juventus)
Torino-Juventus (Torino's going to win this one)
Juventus-Bologna (draw)
Roma-Juventus (draw)

=> 8 points taken ...

Originally Posted by K77SH C

Pirlo has no heart?? He has been the only one over the last few years to have the guts to take the ball from defence. .

Seedorf not deserving to wear a Milan shirt??

Ronnie a fighter?? I dont think so, at least Pirlo and Seedorf chase people back. Ronnie is the only player in our club that puts his hands on his hips and watches players run past him. He is only interested in running on the ball and has no interest in making runs or helping out the left back. It is no coincidence Jankulovski is looking worse than ever at defending. Its because he has absolutely no support from Ronnie. Add to that, the incompetence of Kaladze and the lack of strength and pace of Maldini, how can a fullback even consider running forward to cross without the his colleagues crumbling to pieces behind him. When Ronnie is in the team, left back is our worst position. having two world class centre back would be a massive start!!


And if Ancelotti persists on playing Ambrosini, Kaladze and Beckham then his head must roll too. Rijkaard.

Pirlos tactical ROLE is to play deep playmaker, that is his JOB! It doesnt have anything to do with guts! And that is his role becouse Carlo has no game plan but to pass to Pirlo and others stay and watch him pass around and stays put.

There are no movements, no direct plan, no place crossing, no sprinting at all!

Seedorf doesnt deserve to wear Milan shirt ANYMORE. I said he is a legend, but enough is enough. He is not Maldini.

I DIDNT say Dinho is a fighter, I said he has a heart of a champion. And with all that "standing" ( maybe you ahve forgotten how Dinho moved - or not moved - indefensive phase even when he was at his best, and also how Ronaldo Il phenomeno walked around the pitch ) dinho made 3 or 4 passes for goal chances or great plays, but we messed it up. Only one came off to Pato's goal. dinho is a player of one move, one spark. He is not a left midfielder.

And Jankulovski is NOT a fluuback. He can play in the bect defence in the world and will still not be a fullback becouse...well...HE IS NOT ONE. He is a left wide midfielder in 4-4-2 formation. And **** the club that plays LM as fullback and expact him to do well by some divine miarcule next to Kaladze.

Im not blaming Marek, he's played out of position. Serginho is one in a miliodn that somehow addopted to an attacking fullback role. But he is a player class above Marek.

And Marek will never, never, defend well, coz he doesnt know how. He is standing wrongly, defending like a junior player in duels. Its laughable. Look at his reactiojns vs Juve, vr Roma ( Vucinic goal), yesterday. those are not ractions of a defender.

Now Pirlo can, as far as Im concerned **** off to Madrid and play football for girls or something. We need real Milan who scores for 1:0 and then not even God can come back to draw. This is pathetic.

Im asking you again to go to youtube and look at Pirlo's reaction vs stankovic yesterday and vs Robinho on Italia-Brasil. Those reactions are reactions of a cman that doesnt give a **** about it! I dont care anymore about him.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

The schedule for the next weeks could launch again the battle for the Scudetto actually ... here is my vision of the next games.

I respected you man, do not throw away your dignity. This is science fiction. We lost the scudetto thirt year in a row in the middle of the season with as some say great players like Pirlo, Seedorf, good coach etc.

How is that possible? Becouse they are not that great anymore and the coach is biased coward that plays his friends and not the best possible lineup.

Not uefa cup, woho! Grande Milan!

We're a disgrace, I have no other words for this team. People may feel we played reasonably well last night, I definitely don't, as Inter could have scored so many goals it's untrue. Our defence is to blame, but from the outset I couldn't see a clear structure within our team, never mind that we had a shockingly static side where most players in the side can barely run. Inter weren't particularly clever in their approach and Carlo claimed how we would be intelligent in our approach to the match. Precisely where this intelligence went I don't know. Inter like to physically dominate. They aren't the most mobile team around, nor the most technical, they like to bully opponents and dominate them. We aren't as powerful, so we can't just stand against them, but we are without a doubt more technical. To stop them dominating, we should have anticipated their approach (and thus the ball) and isolated their powerful players to prevent them from getting a chance to dominate our team. It's quite a simple theory that we've used a lot in the past, stop the ball getting to their powerful forwards so that they're isolated and struggle to get into the match. Instead we give guys like Ibra and Adriano a shocking amount of space to work in.

The first half wasn't particularly impressive. We started very poorly and Inter should have scored in the first couple of minutes. Whilst we played some "nice" technical football, we were far from concrete and looked like we weren't really causing Inter problems. On the other hand, at the back we never looked too comfortable and it seemed Inter had it far too easy to go forward and get good chances. Two goals wasn't a shock, as at the back we were awful and we seemed to easily dominated.

The second half was a more open affair from both sides. Inter missed a number of chances as did we and essentially it would seem fair had the result been a draw. Rossetti screwed us over by not giving a couple of what appeared to blatant penalties.

I won't complain about the Adriano goal though, as I think his handball was involuntary. On the other hand, not getting obvious penalties doesn't seem so hard to take when considering Ambro should have been sent off in this match.

Players...

Abbiati - I felt he should have come out for the first goal. The ball came very close to him and really he should have dominated his area. Made a couple of good saves, but never looked very comfortable.
Zambro - Not bad, but not his best game. Left gaps on the right at times and crossing wasn't great.
Maldini - Not his best game, he was struggling. However, with the amount of space he had to cover it's no shock he struggled.
Kaladze - Sell him this summer. He's a calamity, there's no doubt in my mind that he should be replaced in the next transfer window. In fact, this season he's the worst starting CB I think I've ever seen in a Milan shirt, and last night was the worst performance I've seen of him ever. I was actually laughing at him during the match because he was so bad, and considering I was seething while watching the match, that's quite a feat.
Janku - He's not a LB, when will Carlo learn. He again made defensive mistakes and didn't cover on Stankovic's goal. Good run on Pato's goal, would like to see him get in those areas a bit more.
Beckham - Did he do anything before the injury?
Pirlo - Few complaints, he did well for what he had to work with.
Ambro - Lucky not to get sent off, didn't cover his area of the pitch well, late into tackles, reckless, offered nothing going forward and I don't remember a single header he won.
Seedorf - Disappeared at times, but on the whole he wasn't too bad, was an important element in our game.
Ronaldinho - He did well, but also poorly. He looks like he's showing his abilities more and does some good things, but he's not got good movement nor does he track back at all. This makes life hard for Pato and the midfield.
Pato - Excellent again. He was isolated though, so had to do too much by himself. This isn't new and must be sorted out.
Senderos - NA
Inzaghi - Did reasonably well after coming on and was a threat. It's a shame his goal was (correctly) called offside as it was a great finish and that his chance was just saved at the end.

Carlo's an idiot. I'm not going to try and put it in a more polite way, he's plain stupid. Ambro has been awful this year, he's not offered anything and yet he's starting every game. Janku is a known liability at LB and Inter have used this against a number of times in the past. On top of that we play Kaladze in LCB after he's been our worst defender this season (honestly, I can't think of anyone worse) and has been out with injury until this match. I've lost count the number of times

I've spoken about our dynamic duo of Kala and Janku, yet Carlo insists on them. On top of that he has a team with about 3 players actually able to run against a team who would naturally struggle against a strong running side (I'm certain Man Utd will prove this).

It's not like Mourinho is a particularly brilliant tactician. He's good, that's without question, but his approach is at times rigid and doesn't necessarily adapt to the needs of the team. He's a brilliant manager, but not a brilliant tactician as has been proven with his struggles this year. How Carlo gets it tactically so wrong against Inter this year is beyond me.

I'm annoyed at us, we're not a good team. Serie A is more even this year but neither Inter or Juve particularly impress me and we should be at the top fighting for top spot, if not 1st considering there's no CL to contend with. Instead we're pretty much out of the Scudetto race at February.

Mrki, I disagree completely on your evaluation of Pirlo and Dinho. Dinho did reasonably well in the attacking phase last night but never really moved. This hampers our build up and the other players in our team. Ronaldo was different, he didn't chase back at his best, but his movement was fantastic when attacking. Pirlo also wasn't too bad. Ambro should be chasing back Stankovic when Stankovic runs through down the centre left. Pirlo wasn't brilliant, but compared to Beckham (who simply never was in the match) and Ambro (second after Kala for worst player on the pitch imo) he was amazing.

I don't think you guys are giving Carlotti enough credit. Just think about what he's working with. I'm sure Mourinho wouldn't be able to win the Scudetto if Maicon, Cambiasso and Ibramhimovic was out, but thats the thing we have to deal with. Nesta, Gattuso, Boriello and yesterday Kaka have all been injured, our best defender, our best midfielder and our target man, i'm sorry, but i really think it's harsh to blame this on Carlotti. Only thing i think he needs to change is his favouritism towards some players. Every man, woman and dog in the world knows that playing Kaladze over Senderos was a mistake, but really, even before yesterdays game he's had loads of bad days.

If anything we should blame Galliani we needed a defender in the winter, and we still need a defender. Instead Galliani went and threw money at LA Galaxy to bring Beckham, a player that plays a position where we have loads of quality players. I mean i've read reports of 10 million euro's being offered, for a 33 year old ? We could bring in Agger for those money.

Everytime after every derby the same thing,


"**** Carlo, Carlo is an idiot"

then Milan wins the CL, "OH, he is the one, he is great". Guess what, no CL this time 5th placed nerds

Originally Posted by Karim

Everytime after every derby the same thing,


"**** Carlo, Carlo is an idiot"

then Milan wins the CL, "OH, he is the one, he is great". Guess what, no CL this time 5th placed nerds

Every time? I think you spoke about other derby! In Carlo era, how many times Inter could beat Milan? Let me ask you.

This is not about winning derby or winning CL, it's about Ancelotti's performances in the last two years especially this year. We are not Moratti who fired his coach after giving Inter scudetto. You should first look at to your club more, then you can talk about other club.

I talk about any club I want dude, sono campione di'Italia for the past 3 years

Originally Posted by Karim

I talk about any club I want dude, sono campione di'Italia for the past 3 years

You just make inter fans image getting worse and worse. Talking crap just like their coach and president! 3 years paper scudetto? If not because of Calciopoli, Inter would never win Serie A as long as Moratti the President!

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Looking at how you behaved in your 3 post made me burned just after I thought your post about Inter-Milan match was very objective. What I can take from this is that Inter fans will always turn to a crap fans just like their club.

I am not sure about Adriano's goal, there could have been [a handball], but we had such a determination that I think we would have been triumphant in any case," Moratti told Il Corriere Dello Sport.

"In the past the derby ended 4-3 once, but I think the game on Sunday should have been 7-0 to us.

"We should have won by more, but the most important thing is that we took home a positive result, and we did this by showing strength and determination.

"We played a great game it was great to see."

This guy is a joke if this is true.. LMAO..

Originally Posted by Christian

I don't think you guys are giving Carlotti enough credit. Just think about what he's working with. I'm sure Mourinho wouldn't be able to win the Scudetto if Maicon, Cambiasso and Ibramhimovic was out, but thats the thing we have to deal with. Nesta, Gattuso, Boriello and yesterday Kaka have all been injured, our best defender, our best midfielder and our target man, i'm sorry, but i really think it's harsh to blame this on Carlotti. Only thing i think he needs to change is his favouritism towards some players. Every man, woman and dog in the world knows that playing Kaladze over Senderos was a mistake, but really, even before yesterdays game he's had loads of bad days.

If anything we should blame Galliani we needed a defender in the winter, and we still need a defender. Instead Galliani went and threw money at LA Galaxy to bring Beckham, a player that plays a position where we have loads of quality players. I mean i've read reports of 10 million euro's being offered, for a 33 year old ? We could bring in Agger for those money.

Yes we're missing Nesta and Gattuso. Borriello may be useful in some matches, but Pato is a much better player overall and really I don't think Borriello's good enough to be a regular starter at Milan.

However, what reason is this for Carlo giving players like Kaladze (someone you noted already) a nod ahead of Senderos or even Favalli (who has done a fair job this season)? What excuse has Carlo for starting Ambro, who is hardly been lighting up Milan ahead of Flamini, who just a week ago was argubly the best player for us and won more balls than anyone else on the pitch?

Then of course there are decisions to play Janku at LB where he's a known defensive liability and has to contend with one of the best RB's in the world.

Addition :

http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/feb16m.html

That's Inter typical (the club, management, coach and fans). They always claim something that they can always get in their dream. The fact is Milan lost only 1 goal in the last night and Inter the one that lost 0-6 to Milan in 2001.

Karim what are you trying to do and? after all its a milan forum, if you are having a valid point to discuss then do it but if you want to mess around, dont