Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by drucurl

Now our ambition is to make the top 3 But AGAIN this means nothing to some users simply because Milan isn't that big of a deal to them...and truth be told that's TOTALLY fine But don't knock Mrki and insult him because it has him upset....Silly comments like if he ever had a girlfriend and other personal attacks are uncalled for.

I will wait for Mrki answer to that ... he was so upset because of the poem of Warro (because he felt attacked and understood it like Warro is a better fan than him, if I'm not wrong, that was the problem between them some pages ago).

So for you drucurl, people who are always upset and always complain are better fans than the ones who try to see some light in the dark night into which the club has been lost the last two seasons ?
It's just two different kinds of fans, and anyway, you can take 10 fans who love the club as much as each other, and they will love it in 10 different ways which won't make one or the other a better fan than the others ...

Originally Posted by drucurl

Dzeko:
Dzeko is an unproven striker and from what I've seen NOTHING special but then again neither is Milan....Getting Dzeko to replace Kaka is like putting Booster Gold to replace Superman in the Justice League

You're the only one here to think that Dzeko is a replacement for Kaka' ... noone can replace Kaka' and noone will replace Kaka' ...

You know what will be funny, I really think Galli should start using those Berlu's private party as a sales pitch to players. I am sure CR7 will be the first to ask for a transfer to Milan.

Come to think of it, maybe thats the reason why Kaka left b/c he is just that religious.

Originally Posted by drucurl

But don't knock Mrki and insult him because it has him upset....Silly comments like if he ever had a girlfriend and other personal attacks are uncalled for.

damn bro, did you breakup with your GF too?? don't worry, I am sure some horny darling will find ya soon!!

otherwise, excellent humor in your post. i luffed all the way through

Originally Posted by drucurl

" WHY sell GOURCUFF the only person who could do a half decent job of replacing Kaka?

I honetly taught that was the worse move we have done in years, expecially since we were expecting Ancelotti to go to Chelsea.

Originally Posted by drucurl

we seem to have lost all ambition[/size]

Now our ambition is to make the top 3 But AGAIN this means nothing to some users simply because Milan isn't that big of a deal to them...and truth be told that's TOTALLY fine

Ok now i think Milan players have won everything possible to be won and thats why they havent given there full 100 percent to every game. So though it is sad to see player go, i think these these new young players will revive the club, and though it may not come next year, i can see us winning the in the next 2 years (serie A that is).

but though we are getting alot of young players back, i think we need to buy one that can be a difference maker from the start, like fabregas, and if milan arent able to get Fab, then i would love to get Hamsik and Santacroce in the same deal.

though i dont want to see pirlo go, i wouldnt mind it depending on who replaces him, but i would prefer seedorf going first.

Guys get a grip...we haven't lost our ambition...everytime we said our aim was the scudetto where did we end up...nothing...we weren't even close over the past years...now that they say we target being in the top 3 we're complaining...Hopefully, we'll win the scudetto...our future is looking good...don't forget Kaka is the main main player that we lost that makes our team a little unconvincing...However, our future is looking bright...we have to get behind our team 110%

i am behind Milan 1000%.

Everything is wrong in this club these years,and the sad part is the fans..most of people writting here cant handle the truth,they are the same ones that were sure we would win serie a last year,the same ones they predicted everything wrong..mrki is telling nth less than the truth..he is just emphasising in a way that you people cant stand..

stay in your fake world,create your own reality,and mock(in a really cheap way,without any sence of humor or education at all) anyone that doesnt agree just because he isnt a sheep..yes that way you can all feel more important..

and next year when we ll be lost again,a level even lower..say the same things again.. like last year,like this year like always..

i dont disagree with people saying that we should w8 and see before we talk..

but i cant stand galliani saying "last year we made more money than the previous..."
when all year long was talking about our loses cause of our elimination from ch.l.

i cant stand him saying "its not that important to finish our mercato before 6 of july"

and most of all i cant stand him when he says "we aim top 3"

and yet most of the fans may not stand me for talking like this..it really makes no sence at all..

ps grafite scored 2 more goals than dzeko,but 5 or 6 were penalties..and i agree he was more crucial for wolfsburg,but i think his role was more crucial..dzeko would be more important for milan than grafite..furthermore he is 6 years younger,and 20mil are not that much for him(thats what we give),30 are a lot although(thats what they want).

I think everyone has a certain point i agree with. We all loved Kaka but he is gone (i have my opinions on how he left). Now the new season will be upon us, and we should all be optimistic. We have r80 on our team guys HELLOOO!!!!!!! I dont care if he is older and fatter ( he seems fine to me ) The guy is magic, i believe in him very much and im very suprised to see so many doubters.

He never got a chance really to play underr Carlo, i didnt buy the out of shape bs. I dont mind Gallini saying that our goal is to finish top 3 and the CL as far as we can go, its better than the BS he was feeding us for the past couple years. When our youth plays with great players (r80, pirlo, nesta, etc) they will learn and work hard to become better themselves. No one is born great, they work hard and become great. So we did not give gorky a chance to be great and now in france he will get a chance to become great. I love this new look Milan for this reason, **** lets finish 2nd or 3rd. Just play wonderful football. i want the other fans to say wow Milan played a great game.


If we are going to bash the Mercato, lets atleast wait tilll its alll over. Then we can see who we got and who we missed out on. And this is just a guess but i really feel like we have a side aggrement with RM when we sold KAKA, that we agreed on one of the players to be sold to us.


FORZA FCKING MILAN!!!!!
FCUK INTER, CHELSEA, AND REAL MADRID.

Originally Posted by M.O.I.

Everything is wrong in this club these years,and the sad part is the fans..most of people writting here cant handle the truth,they are the same ones that were sure we would win serie a last year,the same ones they predicted everything wrong..mrki is telling nth less than the truth..he is just emphasising in a way that you people cant stand..

stay in your fake world,create your own reality,and mock(in a really cheap way,without any sence of humor or education at all) anyone that doesnt agree just because he isnt a sheep..yes that way you can all feel more important..

and next year when we ll be lost again,a level even lower..say the same things again.. like last year,like this year like always..

Actually, my goal for last year was to get back to the Champions League. That's it. I asked nothing more of Milan. I knew Milan wasn't going to win the Scudetto, but losing the CL spot was a huge blow to the club. It's the thing that ultimately led to Kaka being sold and if Kaka were the answer to all Milan's problems the club never would have gotten into that situation to begin with. Milan couldn't afford to miss out again. Returning to the Champions League has brought back that Europe cash flow and now Milan can go about the work of rebuilding a squad that just wasn't good enough anymore. Milan probably isn't going to win anything this year either. But that doesn't mean the sky is falling.

Every club has to rebuild and change direction every now and then. It's happened to Milan before. It's happened to Real Madrid. It's happened to Manchester United. You name the club and they've found themselves at a point where they had to re-tool the roster. And unless you throw around money like Real Madrid or Chelsea, you can't do it overnight.

mrki is entitled to his opinion. So are you and everyone else who posts here. But the problem is that mrki, in post after post, continues to beat the same old dead horse. What is he accomplishing besides making a lot of us sick of hearing it? Does he think Silvio or Uncle Fester read these boards and are going to suddenly have a light bulb go on over their heads and realize mrki is the genius they need to restore Milan to greatness?

The fact is that none of us know (as much as mrki likes to think he knows) exactly what plans Milan has or exactly what players will be added to the roster. He's just assuming, based on something he thinks he's seen in the past, that everything is rotten and Milan has no future. Okay, fine. But if mrki is right, does he think somebody is going to pin a medal on him? So what's the point of constant bitching and whining? Why doesn't everyone just relax and see how the mercato plays out. Step back and take a fresh look at things in August.

I am a realist. I understand that no club can win every year and that every club goes through a rough patch now and then. I also understand that Rome wasn't built in a day (and neither was Milan). To be a prophet of doom and gloom is just as ridiculous as to be someone who thinks Milan (or whatever club they love) are always going to win. The world doesn't work that way.

Originally Posted by OCmilano

I think everyone has a certain point i agree with. We all loved Kaka but he is gone (i have my opinions on how he left). Now the new season will be upon us, and we should all be optimistic. We have r80 on our team guys HELLOOO!!!!!!! I dont care if he is older and fatter ( he seems fine to me ) The guy is magic, i believe in him very much and im very suprised to see so many doubters.

He never got a chance really to play underr Carlo, i didnt buy the out of shape bs. I dont mind Gallini saying that our goal is to finish top 3 and the CL as far as we can go, its better than the BS he was feeding us for the past couple years. When our youth plays with great players (r80, pirlo, nesta, etc) they will learn and work hard to become better themselves. No one is born great, they work hard and become great. So we did not give gorky a chance to be great and now in france he will get a chance to become great. I love this new look Milan for this reason, **** lets finish 2nd or 3rd. Just play wonderful football. i want the other fans to say wow Milan played a great game.


If we are going to bash the Mercato, lets atleast wait tilll its alll over. Then we can see who we got and who we missed out on. And this is just a guess but i really feel like we have a side aggrement with RM when we sold KAKA, that we agreed on one of the players to be sold to us.


FORZA FCKING MILAN!!!!!
FCUK INTER, CHELSEA, AND REAL MADRID.

U didn't have to make the fonts really big to make ur points known...But nice anyways

Jesus, this 3rd spot debate is really getting some bad reaction. I don't understand this fuss, Galliani said we're aiming for top 3, but clearly added that this is definitely achievable in this side and must be achieved. Essentially, he's outlined the minimum requirements of this season, automatic qualification into CL and a respectable run in CL. It's not a sign that we're aiming to be any less of a club, it simply means we must achieve at least this much this season.

Originally Posted by nefremo

I already mentioned this before so I don't want to sound like a broken record....but it seems like there are reports coming out every day about Santacroce, and WE ARE NOT INTERESTED!!! That is just simply stupid from Galliani and the management (including Leonardo because he should mention Santa as well just like Ferrara is). Santacroce has a load of potential and everyone knows that. He is a star in the making and if we don't mix ourselves into this one, then I'll really be fuming.

Also, on tuttomercatoweb.com we are linked with Mertesacker from Werder today. They site someone else claiming that the price Werder wants is 14mil Euro. Not a bad deal if you ask me, if he is brought in to be a back up. Maybe not one of the big profile signings that people cry for.....but not a bad player at all, of course if he is meant to be a back up. (if Werder asks for 14, he can surely be bought for somewhere around 9/10mil) There is nothing concrete though, and I would much rather spend the money on Santacroce or Bochetti.

My sentiments exactly on Santacroce. I can only hope that we're trying something behind the scenes, but I'm not at all optimistic.

Mertesacker is definitely someone I don't want, even at 9m. He's slow, sluggish, has generally poor positioning and imo isn't too far from being a poor man's Senderos.

I don't think Santacroce is being linked with us, because I don't think Napoli really have him up for sale. I don't think they want to put him up for sale, they have just thrown money at Quagliarella, Zuniga, and have made sure Zalayeta stays and the only person really being linked with a move out of Napoli is Lavezzi, and I think he'll ultimately stay.

Zuniga is not Santacroce's replacement, he's a right back, essentially it cements Santacroce's spot next to Paolo Cannavaro as part of a back four rather than the back three that Napoli had used prior to Donadoni's appointment.

I'm sure there are plenty of clubs that would love to have Santacroce, especially ourselves. However, if there is no will to move from the player or the club, what does it matter if Milan want to buy him?

We have to bring things into perspective: It is June 27th. There is plenty of time left, and I'm sure Leonardo is being involved in these transfers and probably has a lot more freedom with choice (not price) than Ancelotti had. Leonardo and Galliani seem to be working together, and I think that many of us misunderstand why Favalli is being rewarded contract extension (I'm sure just a year, which I have no problem with) and why Abate and Di Gennaro have returned.

I have said this before, and I will continue to say this: We have a trouble with depth. Thank God we are not like Roma, who once they lose one of their starting XI are finished. However, looking at Barcelona, for instance, they were able to patch teams together when they were fighting on all three fronts. Pinto took goal for the Copa, for example.

Milan have relied on making Seedorf, Pirlo, and Gattuso mainstays of the team, whether that be the league or cup or CL. That is a major problem, and the fact that they have gotten this far, with playing constantly, is frankly impressive. Lesser players would have broken down a long time ago.

Abate and Di Gennaro are not going to be Messi's, but I think that (especially Abate) that they can really distinguish themselves, even at Milan. If many of you trust Leonardo's judgment, then these two players should be welcomed back, rather than panned because they are not at "Kaka's level."

Kaka is not going to be replaced by a player from outside our club. He is replaced by Ronaldinho. Face the facts, that is the truth. Will Ronaldinho be the next Rivaldo? No, Rivaldo was a different player, never having the sort of powers that Ronaldinho has. Rivaldo also was never given a full injury-free season.

Honestly, if there is any player who is capable of "replacing" Kaka, then it is Ronaldinho. Messi has continually flopped in big games (save this last CL final) as has Cristiano Ronaldo. Kaka is a big game player, so is Ronaldinho. That is the difference between the Brazilian duo and Messi and CR7. Ronaldinho has just been dropped and Dunga has offered Ronaldinho a spot, it is just up to Ronaldinho. Leonardo I'm sure has outlined, as has Berlusconi that Ronaldinho's fate is in his hands.

Dinho knows that his legacy is at stake, and I don't think he wants to go down as a fading star. No one wants to end that way, especially at 29. So have some faith and realize that Dzeko is by no means a replacement for Kaka, but he will give us the sort of ugly goals that allow us to push aside Siena and get goals against tough big games. Pretty goals do not give you 1.5 goals, ugly goals and pretty goals count the same, and Dzeko is great at scoring both. Plus, at 23 he can learn a lot more and become a far better player than he is all ready. By the same logic, many of you here wouldn't buy Pato, because his decision-making might have flaws, but he has grown since coming to Milan, and Dzeko can do the same.

I don't want to lose Seedorf, Pirlo, or Ambro. I'd like to see the back of Kaladze, but, fine, he stays, maybe he'll rise to occasion? It doesn't matter, because we have to help this team transition, and selling half the squad doesn't do that, it simply makes the "new cycle" that much harder to get into.

So, please, stop fighting amongst each other, stop fighting about stupid things and about what Galliani says. He says everything for a reason, maybe not the best for the public, but the best for the club. Whether it is saving Milan money, or pressure from first-time coach Leonardo, Galliani is outlying what is in Milan's best interest. So, please, stop being like fans from other teams who believe everything that is said on face-value. Understand that Milan has been a team that always understands the game better than other clubs, and has always played the market correctly. At least we didn't spend millions on Almiron, Poulsen, okay?

Just say Thanks for what we do have, and realize that things aren't over.

Originally Posted by OCmilano

I think everyone has a certain point i agree with. We all loved Kaka but he is gone (i have my opinions on how he left). Now the new season will be upon us, and we should all be optimistic. We have r80 on our team guys HELLOOO!!!!!!! I dont care if he is older and fatter ( he seems fine to me ) The guy is magic, i believe in him very much and im very suprised to see so many doubters.

He never got a chance really to play underr Carlo, i didnt buy the out of shape bs. I dont mind Gallini saying that our goal is to finish top 3 and the CL as far as we can go, its better than the BS he was feeding us for the past couple years. When our youth plays with great players (r80, pirlo, nesta, etc) they will learn and work hard to become better themselves. No one is born great, they work hard and become great. So we did not give gorky a chance to be great and now in france he will get a chance to become great. I love this new look Milan for this reason, **** lets finish 2nd or 3rd. Just play wonderful football. i want the other fans to say wow Milan played a great game.


If we are going to bash the Mercato, lets atleast wait tilll its alll over. Then we can see who we got and who we missed out on. And this is just a guess but i really feel like we have a side aggrement with RM when we sold KAKA, that we agreed on one of the players to be sold to us.


FORZA FCKING MILAN!!!!!
FCUK INTER, CHELSEA, AND REAL MADRID.

i will qoute this just for the hell of it