Summer mercato 2009

Well let's hope we can close the deal for a striker pretty soon. I know it's still early, but I can't wait to see a proper new arrival!

Hmmm, seems like we want to sell Pirlo, which is fine by me (if the money is right), but strangely the Hernanes rumours seem to have died down? Any news from Brazil, Brasileiro? Are other clubs still after him, or has Galliani gone there and already conducted business??

Originally Posted by Samaldinho

Plus: I think the fact that the club seem somewhat open to Seedorf's departure, shows that they too want to get rid of, or at least reduce the wages of many players. However, they have deals to honor and contracts that bind them.
I wish Kaladze was given to Chelsea when he was on the verge of switching a few years back, because I honestly have never rated him in a Milan shirt, ever. But, then again, I just don't see how the club really can get some of these players out. They were rewarded contract extensions, because the way they played afforded them that right.

I am starting to believe more and more in Ronaldinho's reemergence as a force in world football. Watching old games of Dinho, you can see that his passes were there, it was just about understanding with the other strikers. I really think that Ronaldinho will be someone we rely on, not just out of necessity, but really because he will preform.

That didn't stop them from getting rid of Kaka. Let's face it, there are ways for a club to get rid of a player if they really really want to. In Seedorf's case, Milan simply did not want to seriously get rid of him. They were indifferent about whether he stay or leaves and that gave Seedorf the excuse he needed to stay.

Originally Posted by HO-YOUNG

Can anyone answer these Questions?...........
Is Milan a dominant force in the Asian Market??
What are we doing to generate money other than TV earnings?
How much do we earn from TV earnings?
Who is responsible for the sale of Milan shirts? Adidas or Milan?
How much do we earn from our shirt sponsors Bwin?
How many sold out games we had last season at the San Siro?
are we operating at a loss?
how much revenue did we earn over the past two years?

Ho, I only know the part answers for the first two questions and that too from an Indian perspective. EPL clubs are by far the most popular, especially Man Utd.
Consider the fact that very few people had heard of Chelsea before the Russian revolution and Chelsea has a decent fan base now. A few ex-chelsea players flew to India a few months ago for promotional activities. Apparently, Man Utd initiated a program to develop youth football in India. After Barca's surge around 5 years ago, many people became Barca fansmost of them attracted by their beautiful approach to football. Galacticos' era ensured that Real Merda gained popularity.

As far as Milan and Serie A go, a single sports channel (unlike 2 for EPl, namely ESPN and Star Sports) broadcasts Serie A games along with Bundesliga. Bundesliga gets more attention in this channel with special programs on German football. As you know Serie A clubs sell their TV rights individually, we don't get to watch all Milan games as that channel doesn't have the TV rights for San Siro. To sum it up, it's pathetic marketing by Serie A in general. However, fake AC Milan shirts are very popular because of splendid red and black combination. Not to mention the fact that Kaka's exploits in CL 2007, esp defeat of Man Utd, made AC Milan popular. I mean, if ask many football fans who played the finals in CL 2003, they would just reply "some Italian clubs and it was boring" when it was the most intense CL final I have ever watched! I hope I will get to watch all Milan games on TV instead of internet streams after Serie A broke with Serie B to become a premier league.

My ideal lineup for next year-

------ Abs--------
Flamini--Nesta---- GAMBERINI----CRISCTO
Gattuso(C)--Pirlo--HERNANDES
----ROSSI----
Pato--HUNTELAAR

Bench-Silva, Zambro, Oddo, Boriello, Pippo, ROSSINA, Antonini, Bonera, Abate,

i think we should sell Dinho to Man City, cause they will spend a lot of money for him, cause they can market him. With that money we can buy Rossi and Rossina. Hunt would be a great target man for us. Hernandes would be an really good player for us and could take over for Pirlo in the future. Flamini played well at RB, and his pace would be a huge asset for us, as would Criscto. i also think it would be a good idea to buy Andrea Consigli to be our GK of the future. he is only 22, and he could take over in a year or two.

Brasiliero I have always agreed with you before in your opinions....however there's a first time for everything..... I think Fabiano is not the player we need and I don't agree that he is as good as you make him. I would honestly rather have Dzeko.

But thats just my opinion and it doesn't matter - does Fabiano have a European passport?


I am really pissed that our management is completely ignoring G. Rossi and Rosina. I mean - I dont think I need to be in football for 20 years to know that these players are perfect players for the squad if not the first 11.

Originally Posted by slifersd

That didn't stop them from getting rid of Kaka. Let's face it, there are ways for a club to get rid of a player if they really really want to. In Seedorf's case, Milan simply did not want to seriously get rid of him. They were indifferent about whether he stay or leaves and that gave Seedorf the excuse he needed to stay.

I don't think it's about the management wanting to get rid of Kaka and not wanting to get Seedorf.

It's actually, the management just showed that they DO want to get rid of Seedorf, but he won't go. There are ways to force him out, like putting him on the bench, or the reserves, but is that really the way a proper club should be run, especially considering what Seedorf has done for Milan in the past?

Asia Market, this is all from my perspective/observation. I can only comment on the Far East part, as I have no clue about India and others.

Japan was supposedly Series A strong hold in the Far East market, but with the success of ManU in 1999(ie Beakham and the treple) then Real and Dinho/Barcelona. Liga, actually only Barcelona and Real and EPL(Big four) had taken a huge chunk of the market share from Series A. TO be honest, if it is not for Nakata and Morimoto now, Series A would have been at third place behind Liga and EPL. Milan is doing well compare to other Series A side, mainly due to Kaka in 2007, Beckham and Dinho. BUt still behind Real, ManU, Barcelona and Pool. Dinho is the key for Milan in the Japan's market as long as Nike still uses him in their commericals, something that is becoming less and less.
South Korea is ManU and EPL, hands down. There is not one Koreans I know that does not know anything about ManU or EPL, mainly b/c of JS Park. Actually, one of my friends, she works for ESPN Seoul and she was sent to interview JS Park quite often and TV stations often has a special on JS PARK per week. Despite the fact that JS Park is a bench player on ManU.
Like Japan, Real and Barcelona are also big in Korea, but the rest are far far behind, even Milan.

Taiwan is a huge market but EPL byfar has the biggest market share there.

Hong Kong, EPL is destroying every other league, even teams like Barcelona and Real. I think thats mainly b/c of the time of the matches in Liga and Series A. THere are diehard followers for Real, Barcelona, Milan, Inter and others, but EPL is clearly running away.

China, thats the biggest market in Asia, if not the World. Sadly, it is EPL with the majority and strangely, in my opinion, the German League is the second fav. Milan did got a lot of publicity as Kaka is the spokesperson for a very popular candy/throat medicine like Halls.

To sums up, EPL is clearly the most powerful league in terms of having Market Share in the Far East.

Originally Posted by slifersd

That didn't stop them from getting rid of Kaka. Let's face it, there are ways for a club to get rid of a player if they really really want to. In Seedorf's case, Milan simply did not want to seriously get rid of him. They were indifferent about whether he stay or leaves and that gave Seedorf the excuse he needed to stay.

There is a huge difference between potential sales of Kaka or Seedorf. Even if we wanted to sell him, Seedorf may want to honor his contract because whoever we sell him to (Ajax) will not be willing to pay him as much salary as he's getting with us. So for Seedorf, it's not about Milan not willing to sell him, it's about the player WANTING to honor his good contract and will only consider leaving after the contract has expired.

WIth Kaka it's totally the opposite. Would he have gone to Madrid if they offered to pay him half what he earned at Milan? He went because they increased his salary!! So the only way for Milan to retain him is to bump us his contract and match the offer--and obviously, we are in no shape to do that so we accepted cash from Madrid and Kaka happily accepted a pay rise.

Originally Posted by Samaldinho

I don't think it's about the management wanting to get rid of Kaka and not wanting to get Seedorf.

It's actually, the management just showed that they DO want to get rid of Seedorf, but he won't go. There are ways to force him out, like putting him on the bench, or the reserves, but is that really the way a proper club should be run, especially considering what Seedorf has done for Milan in the past?

In the old days of Milan, I would say yes. But in today's Milan, I would say no, as I really don't see Galli and others are running Milan like a proper football club.

Originally Posted by rt9

There is a huge difference between potential sales of Kaka or Seedorf. Even if we wanted to sell him, Seedorf may want to honor his contract because whoever we sell him to (Ajax) will not be willing to pay him as much salary as he's getting with us. So for Seedorf, it's not about Milan not willing to sell him, it's about the player WANTING to honor his good contract and will only consider leaving after the contract has expired.

WIth Kaka it's totally the opposite. Would he have gone to Madrid if they offered to pay him half what he earned at Milan? He went because they increased his salary!! So the only way for Milan to retain him is to bump us his contract and match the offer--and obviously, we are in no shape to do that so we accepted cash from Madrid and Kaka happily accepted a pay rise.

You are making it sounded like Kaka asked for the transfer.

It was MIlan who offered him to Real, and it was Milan who wanted to sell him to ManCity for 100Mil. Milan was the one that shopped him around.
Ofcourse Kaka could have choose to stay, most likely Milan will shop him to another club until they can cash Kaka's value in.

Yes, Kaka accepted Real but why wouldn't he, if the club he is playing for is shopping him around.

The positive things from Luis Fabioano (not my first choice though) are that he is an exprienced striker who has proved his quality in La Liga and Brasil NT. He is in his prime age (28 years old), someone that Pato should also need beside him. He should be cheaper than other targets since Milan bid is around 15-16 euros (13 mil pounds) if news can be trusted. One important thing is that he has EU-pass which makes Milan able to buy Hernanes this season.

Finally some good mercato news for us.

So Galliani and his friend are in Sevilla to talk about Fabiano,also it is reported that Galliani asked Real to not sell Huntelaar yet because if the Fabiano deal falls through then Milan want to snap up Huntelaar first,and Perez agreed with this.

So one way or the other,Galliani will leave Spain with a new striker,be it Fabiano or Hunter,and i really hope Klaas-Jan and not Luis.

Fabiano has skills and has everything what a striker need,but i still would choose the dutchman just because of his age.

I also dont think Fabiano will come,i dont blame the MGT if the deal doesnt suceed because Sevilla is like somebody said really pushing it with their 30 mln demands....He isnt worth that money,20 million max. but not more!

To bad Piersilvio Berlusconi isnt running the club instead of his disguisting daddy,Piersilvio understands Milan problems,he knows what to do,he made some good comments last year and again now saying he didnt agreed with the transfer of Ronaldinho and also didnt want Sheva back.He was the one saying that we needed a big CF instead of Dinho....to bad

Apparently Pirlo is very close to Chelsea (milannews.it)

EXCLUSIVE: Marko Arnautovic To Inter Deal Is Off - Agent
The player's agent has told Goal.com that the striker's move to Inter has collapsed...
3 Jul 2009 11:00:30
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Marko Arnautovic's proposed move from FC Twente to Italian champions Inter is off, Goal.com can exclusively reveal.

Both clubs had reached an agreement over the player's contract terms, but they were unable to reach an accord over the transfer conditions. With reports claiming the deal was up in the air, Goal.com caught up with the player's agent Rob Groener and he revealed that the deal is off for now.

"There are many structures which you have to go through in order for a transfer to take place," Groener told Goal.com.

"Inter would naturally fit a player and they wanted him, but this is a lot of money. Ultimately, both parties could not agree."

Reports claimed Inter wanted to take the player, who is recovering from injury, on a loan deal. However, the agent claimed there was never such a negotiation, and the player is now upset with the failed move.

"Marko is obviously disappointed. Will Inter try again in the winter transfer window? I do not know. I have not heard anything from Inter. We have to see what will happen," concluded the agent.

Although the agent claims the deal is off, neither Inter nor FC Twente have made an official comment just yet.

Tommy van Eldik,Goal.com

This player is a talented Striker. Perhaps we could strike a superior deal for him?