Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by MiamiMilanista

I'm sorry to say, but I agree with you. I know the market is young, but for f***'s sake, come on already.

BTW, some salt for the wound, tuttomercato has said that Napoli has smacked a 6m price tag on Santacroce who is waiting for Juve's call. This is sad in three ways. (1) Cheap price for a good player (2) A young, Italian talent that is probably going to rot on the bench behind Chiellini, Canna, and maybe even Legrottaglie (remember, he had a decent year last year) (3) We probably have NO chance whatsoever since I believe Milan do not have a good relationship with De Laurentis.

I dont know if I believe the price tag, but just to even see it, it's sad.

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There´s a thin line between play hard ball and to be cheap. This send a wrong msg around the world of football. We have a great history, but in the near future players will think twice before come to Milan(what is a crazy thing to imagine today).

We need to win now(what will be hard with the squads Juve and Inter are building), and we also need to not embarass ourselves in the market like we are doing this year...

Don´t get me wrong, I don´t want Milan to have a reputation of overpay like Real Madrid, but 3 teams calling Milan out for the same reason(insulting bids) are to much...and look, I´m of the ones that always supports our managment.

Man, last year São Paulo didn´t accept Barcelona bid for Hernanes, but never called them cheap. For them, 15 millons wasn´t enough, but also wasn´t insulting...

Now, Hernanes values goes down and we manage to be called cheap? Wow

EDIT:Btw, can´t believe Napoli will sell for only 6 millon...the hype on this Brazilian-Italian(yep, he born in Brazil, near of my city) is too huge to believe on this notice.

Originally Posted by MiamiMilanista

I'm sorry to say, but I agree with you. I know the market is young, but for f***'s sake, come on already.

BTW, some salt for the wound, tuttomercato has said that Napoli has smacked a 6m price tag on Santacroce who is waiting for Juve's call. This is sad in three ways. (1) Cheap price for a good player (2) A young, Italian talent that is probably going to rot on the bench behind Chiellini, Canna, and maybe even Legrottaglie (remember, he had a decent year last year) (3) We probably have NO chance whatsoever since I believe Milan do not have a good relationship with De Laurentis.

I dont know if I believe the price tag, but just to even see it, it's sad.

So your're saying Santacroce is not better than Cannavaro or Legrottaglie? Well, if that's true then I don't see any reason for him to come to Milan. Maybe in exhange for someone like Favalli...

Originally Posted by Arildonardo

So your're saying Santacroce is not better than Cannavaro or Legrottaglie? Well, if that's true then I don't see any reason for him to come to Milan. Maybe in exhange for someone like Favalli...

I'm not saying he is better or not. But based on Ferrara's CHOICE to bring Canna back to Juve, he is going into week 1 with Cannavaro and Chiellini as starters.

As you may already know as well, the Italian national team is very political. Ferrara was Lippi's assistant. Dont you think Lippi is in his ear knowing that Canna-Chiellini is most likely our pairing in the back for WC 2010??

I'm not saying who is better or not, but each team has its politics behind everything. If we signed Mexes and based on pre-season performance the order would be (1)Mexes (2) Thiago Silva (3) Nesta, you could bet your house in Week 1 Mexes and Nesta would start because everyone wants Nesta back.

I may be off-base here, but trust me, following Italian football for 25 years now, these things end up being the truth and IT IS VERY SAD

56th minute: Juventus 1 Cisco Roma 1

Originally Posted by MiamiMilanista

56th minute: Juventus 1 Cisco Roma 1

A direct proof of how boring our mercato so far

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

Is anyone else embarassed a bit this is the fourth team that has said they have been insulted by Milan MGTS offers I know some of this is because they want more money , but Wolsburg said our offer was a joke , Porto knew it was an awfull cheating tactic to get Aly at a cheaper price , Sao Paulo President said how much is a crate of Bananas worth cause thats all we have for Hernanes , and now Seville .

I know I go through glass half full/glass half empty moods , but its getting embarassing and will not be good for future business.

Sevilla only wants big money for Fabiano. There is no player from team B costs more than 5 mil euros.

Sao Paolo official who talked about Bananas just showed how he doesn't know anything about european football. Maybe he thinks Sao Paolo is bigger than AC Milan. I do question his capability as an official from a famous club like Sao Paolo.

What agent said only point out that the player really wants to play for Milan and the agent only wants the easiest way : Milan pay big money to Sevilla, Fabiano goes to Milan and the agent get money from the transfer and can relax.

Originally Posted by fLame

Now that I've seen our latest transfer news, I really think they assigned Leo as a coach in order to save on salary of a worldclass coach.

i thought you left for chelsea man, oh i almost forgot we still got seedorf and kala

I don't think we can underestimate how severely our image is being dragged through the mud. Players, managers, clubs, officials etc. really see us as a club who are cheap, poor and on the decline. Add to that Berlusconi's latest activities, and it is shameful.

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

EDIT:Btw, can´t believe Napoli will sell for only 6 millon...the hype on this Brazilian-Italian(yep, he born in Brazil, near of my city) is too huge to believe on this notice.

I'm surprised you say this despite the guy owning us whenever we played Napoli. We needed him sent off before we could do anything in terms of offense. I clearly remember Dinho really struggling to get past him. I won't say that I watched him play week in week out, but in matches against the big teams of Italy, he always did well.

Galliani signs Cissokho coz Leo asked, Silvio says NO. We lie and make complete clowns out of ourselves ( well, them not me! ).

Managers of other teams are moking our bids saying we cant pay for players.

We sold two players with a value of 80mln, didnt bring noone and MGT claims we are no 1 in Italy?

Its all sad and its just a start of what I said when I realised Berlsuconi will no longer keep Milan a live. Money needs to be taken out before eventually Milan is sold.

about santacroce, you can remember that Pato said Santa is the best Cb he played against in serie a.

Inter's Maxwell about to sign with Barca for about 3.7m ( I got the # from tuttomercato)

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy...-for-barcelona

There is one way out I think. If this team is humiliated completely next year it may be a good thing in the long run (as much as it would hurt in the short). Maybe, just maybe, Berlusconi will leave then or invest.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

There is one way out I think. If this team is humiliated completely next year it may be a good thing in the long run (as much as it would hurt in the short). Maybe, just maybe, Berlusconi will leave then or invest.

I thought the same thing when we were dumped out of the CL last year. I guess it didnt set in

Originally Posted by MiamiMilanista

I thought the same thing when we were dumped out of the CL last year. I guess it didnt set in

Actually in a way it did, but it was short-lived.

I am talking about utter humiliation, like being dismantled in the Champions League and finishing 8th in Serie A or something like that.

Guys, I know that because you're so focused on Milan's transfer dealings that it seems as though Milan is the only club anyone complains about when it comes to low bids, etc., but that just isn't the case by any stretch of the imagination. Remember last year when Liverpool was trying (unsuccessfully) to buy Gareth Barry? And this has especially been the case this summer as teams look for big transfer fees in the wake of Madrid's spending spree, but don't want to pay big money themselves. Here's what the Udinese owner said about Juventus only a couple of weeks ago regarding Juve's pursuit of D'Agostino:

Pozzo was unimpressed by the offer made by Juve.

"I am perplexed by the low value set by Juventus executives for the player,'' he said. "The difference between the asking price and the offer is huge. I have the impression that Juve have not thought about the real value of our midfielder.''

And think about all the stories that were in the papers when Inter offered just 6 million pounds for both Carvalho and Deco, which was half what Chelsea was asking. In England, the papers are always full of stories about lowball bids and comments from one club tweaking another.

Hell, even Real Madrid isn't immune to criticism when it comes to bids being considered too low! Consider this headline from Liverpool regarding Madrid's initial offer for Alonso:

Liverpool laugh off Real’s low offers

Liverpool have rejected two offers for players from Real Madrid in the last week, with the La Liga outfit undervaluing the players completely.

It is understood that the Reds have turned down an offer in the region of £20million for midfielder Xabi Alonso and a £4million bid for full-back Alvaro Arbeloa.

Reports today suggest that Real Madrid are giving Rafa Benitez a 2 week deadline to accept an improved bid for Alonso, though it is thought the Reds won’t accept anything less than £35million for the Spanish international.

So I wouldn't worry too much about what anybody says. The vast majority of people aren't paying any attention to what's going on and most fans of other clubs aren't focused on Milan anymore than the average poster here might be focused on Arsenal or Liverpool. Once Milan signs Fabiano or whoever, nobody will remember. And certainly once the season begins nobody is going to give it a second thought.

And keep in mind that the transfer market has been slow for almost everyone. Can anyone tell me who Barcelona has signed? And aside from Manchester City, there's been very little in the way of player aquisitions among the top 7 or 8 clubs in England. Some haven't even made a signing yet, while Manchester United has said their transfer market is closed after bringing in Valencia from Wigan and Owen on a free from Newcastle (to replace Ronaldo and Tevez!). Zhirkov is the only player Chelsea has signed who is likely to see much time with the senior team this year. Liverpool overpaid for Glen Johnson and that's it. Arsenal signed a center back. And Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are all currently fighting to hold onto some of their top players.