Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

ACMILAN1983: I am laughing in disgust at Milan, not at the credibility of the story.

And someone says the transfer market ends on 31 August, that's true but all good players will be bought by then that's why we ask the signings to be done earlier as well as for the players to be able to gel in the team.

Originally Posted by Samaldinho

On a unrelated note: I'm watching Chelsea play Seattle, and do you know what is interesting about the way Chelsea is playing right now? Deco is occupying that Pirlo-role of a deep-seated playmaker. Deco has lost a little of his pace, and not being particularly physical, the space afforded in that little pocket might afford him more freedom and effectiveness. Maybe?

I've just been watching as well and just came to check in here at halftime. It's really strange seeing Carlo wearing that blue shirt with the Chelsea logo. I hope he does well there. He'll always be Milanista.

Originally Posted by Acmir^

And someone says the transfer market ends on 31 August, that's true but all good players will be bought by then that's why we ask the signings to be done earlier as well as for the players to be able to gel in the team.

I agree, however, I think that Milan know who their targets are, and I think reports of Hernanes going to Fenerbache are either to push Milan into making their offer, and frankly if the only team willing to hijack a move for Hernanes is Fenerbache (no offense to them) then he obviously isn't that great.

Reminds me of Rafael Sobis, who didn't exactly live up to expectations.

Side-note: Chelsea just put Shevchenko on the field, I wonder how he will do. I wonder if he stayed at Milan, would he have stayed at his world-class levels? Or would he declined like he did anyways?

Originally Posted by johncharles365

Actually one of the problems in Italy at the moment is the lack of top class defenders being produced. Andreolli and Brochetti the most promising centre backs it is no wonder why Milan haven't brought more Italian centre backs. this generation players don't stack up at all against the likes of Nesta Maldini Baresi Gentile, you can hardly see santacrose and cheillini matching these players achievements. if we talking about side backs than Milan have been silly not to invest in criscito santon motta but such is life

please read this article, it disscusses the quality of young italian center backs directly, i would love to hear what you think about it

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/edi...italian-centre

Luis Fabiano secret clause?

Saturday 18 July, 2009

The reason why Milan are refusing to raise their £12.5m offer for Luis Fabiano may be a legal clause in his contract freeing him for that sum.
The Rossoneri saw their bid rejected by Sevilla and declared “insulting,” while the player’s agent confessed he was “furious” at the size of the proposal.

However, it is now rumoured that there is method to Milan’s madness, as they held negotiations with Rio – a company that owns 66 per cent of his contract.

The newspapers in Italy suggest that when Sevilla signed Luis Fabiano from Porto in 2005, there was a clause added in that they would have to sell if faced with an offer higher than £9m.

It is believed Rio will now take legal action to push through that clause and ensure the Selecao striker’s move to the more prestigious Milan.

Sevilla would like at least £16m to part with their hitman.

It is known that earlier this week Rossoneri directors met with Rio representatives, but insisted it was "a courtesy meeting."

channel4.com

Interesting... I think these contracts with South American players (like Mascherano and Tevez's deals) are unnecessarily complicated. I also feel that they are designed to put these players in rather tough positions.

Originally Posted by Acmir^

And someone says the transfer market ends on 31 August, that's true but all good players will be bought by then that's why we ask the signings to be done earlier as well as for the players to be able to gel in the team.

Last summer Robinho, Berbatov, Pavlachenko, Quaresma and Milito changed clubs on the very last day of the transfer window. Many others, such as Van der Vaart, changed clubs in August. The date of a player's transfer has absolutely nothing to do with his quality.

That Cissokho deal to Lyon has left me speechless...not that I post very often but still...

Originally Posted by Reza

That Cissokho deal to Lyon has left me speechless...not that I post very often but still...

If it has left you speechless, I fear what it has done to mrki .


Rick: how can you put a positive spin on the Cissokho deal?

Originally Posted by Samaldinho

Luis Fabiano secret clause?

Saturday 18 July, 2009

The reason why Milan are refusing to raise their £12.5m offer for Luis Fabiano may be a legal clause in his contract freeing him for that sum.
The Rossoneri saw their bid rejected by Sevilla and declared “insulting,” while the player’s agent confessed he was “furious” at the size of the proposal.

However, it is now rumoured that there is method to Milan’s madness, as they held negotiations with Rio – a company that owns 66 per cent of his contract.

The newspapers in Italy suggest that when Sevilla signed Luis Fabiano from Porto in 2005, there was a clause added in that they would have to sell if faced with an offer higher than £9m.

It is believed Rio will now take legal action to push through that clause and ensure the Selecao striker’s move to the more prestigious Milan.

Sevilla would like at least £16m to part with their hitman.

It is known that earlier this week Rossoneri directors met with Rio representatives, but insisted it was "a courtesy meeting."

channel4.com

Interesting... I think these contracts with South American players (like Mascherano and Tevez's deals) are unnecessarily complicated. I also feel that they are designed to put these players in rather tough positions.

Yep, but if I´m not wrong, in Spain, there´s a law that if you´re a foreing Club, you can´t just pay the contract clause and take the player. You need to have a agreement with the Spanish Club. Can´t remember where I saw this, but I know there is a diference...

I dunno his teeth are going to hurt and his back will fall off , disaster i hope he is a flop HA

Originally Posted by pirlofanusa

please read this article, it disscusses the quality of young italian center backs directly, i would love to hear what you think about it

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/edi...italian-centre

The young are good no doubt about after watching the under 21 tournament i would be happy to see andreolli and brochetti in a red and black shirt. the point issue is that at one time Italy had defenders that had players 2 times better seating in a bar watching the game because they couldn't get into the national side. it pretty much is a consensus opinion that Italy haven't been producing enough defenders. if you to ask my older cousin who grew watching Milan best ever defence in 1991 he would laugh at the idea that santacrose or gamberini or chiellini as international Italian defenders. I would agree that it is too early to judge how good players like andreolli will be but i am certain that he will never be as good as tassoti baresi maldini or costacurta. You have to admit that at the present time Italy hasn't produced a young crop of high class defenders to replace nesta and cannavaro. I am not having a go at the quality of the side back my frustration and confusion is aimed at the lack of a missing generation of top Italian centre backs. at the point that players like baresi and tassoti retired Nesta and Cannavaro were proving themselves to be more than adequate replacements is chiellini and gamberini proving themselves to be as affective. Chiellini is the best young Italian defender at the moment but he proved himself to be at times clumsy slow and nervous not great attributes for the normally hard as nails Italian defenders. Juventus and Milan wouldn't be paying for players like Maldini Costacurta and Cannavaro to stay on if there wasn't a strong contingent of Italian players to replace them

i am glad fenerbache is after Hernanes, now Milan has to speed up its progress in signing him.

Originally Posted by Samaldinho

Luis Fabiano secret clause?

Saturday 18 July, 2009

The reason why Milan are refusing to raise their £12.5m offer for Luis Fabiano may be a legal clause in his contract freeing him for that sum.
The Rossoneri saw their bid rejected by Sevilla and declared “insulting,” while the player’s agent confessed he was “furious” at the size of the proposal.

However, it is now rumoured that there is method to Milan’s madness, as they held negotiations with Rio – a company that owns 66 per cent of his contract.

The newspapers in Italy suggest that when Sevilla signed Luis Fabiano from Porto in 2005, there was a clause added in that they would have to sell if faced with an offer higher than £9m.

It is believed Rio will now take legal action to push through that clause and ensure the Selecao striker’s move to the more prestigious Milan.

Sevilla would like at least £16m to part with their hitman.

It is known that earlier this week Rossoneri directors met with Rio representatives, but insisted it was "a courtesy meeting."

channel4.com

Interesting... I think these contracts with South American players (like Mascherano and Tevez's deals) are unnecessarily complicated. I also feel that they are designed to put these players in rather tough positions.

i dont give a f*** what sevilla wants as long as luis fabiano is happy and wants to come to us thats fine i dont care about being friends with the management of other clubs be like real madrid they'll burn it down and then come back and smile in your face and ask for more

FORZA MILAN!!!

Originally Posted by johncharles365

you could say the same Italian players if you buy andreolli or pasqual it isn't certain that they will be successful plus if you buy players in the same league they tend to have a inflated price. Any way most commentators and managers agree that Italy is failing to produce top class young centre backs, instead italy are producing a amble supply of strikers and midfielder players hence why paloshci is manning the bench for under 21 games and cassano is left out of the azzuri side and rossi is left on the bench for the national team. Roma is a crucible for italian talent yet the 2 centre backs in the team consists of mexes and juan if roma can produce totti de rossi aquilani and cerci why can't they produce a good quality Italian centre back?

Johncharles you will pick a big fight here saying that. So do I

As I said some time ago, no Italian defender(center-backs) today, would make Brazil NT, period!!!

But people want to appear more Italian than the real Italians around the Milan boards. I have some Italian friends here in Brazil, and they are really concerned about the lack of talent at the back. It´s a fact that some people don´t wanna to believe, but as I can see here with my friends, several unbiased Italians are concerned about this. Sure, Italy have some prospects, but they are what they are, prospects.

Also, my Brazil NT never had a problem with left-backs, never!! But right now, our best hope(Marcelo) is still a raw(but talented) LB that has still a lot to learn and that is playing in a wrong position.

We also never had problem with the DM position(Marcus Senna is a starter at the European Champions and wasn´t even a option here), never! But today, we only have a bunch of prospects(Sandro, Rafael Carioca, Jean), and thanks to Dunga that didn´t test them, we re going to South Africa with the likes of Gilberto Silva and Josué

Italy produced legends like Baresi, Maldini, Nesta(and others), but several of the others Cb were clearly overhyped becuase the Italian passport. One of the secrets of Italy defenses(always overlooked), is the capacity of Italian coaches to construct a amazing defensive sistem. They are clearly master of this science, and could turn good defenders into great ones...like Canavarro.

Btw, this type of prejudice is what makes European clubs purchase a player like Fabio Junior here in Brazil, and regreat big time...and all this just because he is Brazilian...and, as they said: "Brazil always produces amazing forwards"

And considering that Lyon paid exactly 15 million for Cissoko's services!?