Banter 2009/2010

It's been a long time since I last visited MM but its good to be back with the MM family. While visiting goal.com I found two very interesting transfer rumors regarding Milan.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy...s-ninis-report

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy...to-fiorentina-

I have only heard about the talents of Ninis but never seen him play. It either him or Hernanes because I do not believe we will buy three midfielders in a single transfer window considering David Beckham is all set to join in January.

About Huntelaar its beyond me why he and Gourcuff never clicked for Milan. These are two top class players but neither could perhaps adapt in our system. So sad.

Originally Posted by Rayno_acm

Brasileiro, from what I've heard, it seems like Milan is changing the path, we'll count on the Italians. This summer Milan bought around 10 youngsters between 14-17 years old, litterally all the best Italian talents available at this age. The management hopes that in the future atleast 2 or 3 of them will develop and will be part of the first team for many years. If only one of them develops to the level of Pirlo, Gatusso or Nesta, it would be such a success, cuz these guys right now are so cheap, they almost don't cost anything.

But you're absolutely right, the talent is not enough. I haven't seen any of them on the field, but consider how the primavera is doing, I guess these guys have some talent. But I'm not sure whether the Milan coaches will be able to develop the right mentality in these guys.

I really hope that we will get a new talanted Brazilian player, who will worth the money we'd pay and he'll make the difference. That's how I see it: in the primavera we'll develop the squad players, and we'll take the difference makers from Brazil.

I hope Braida will make the right choice.

Rayno, sorry for the delay... and great post also(just edited for sapace).

Now, the bold part of your post is great. There´s no way we can afford the prices of a Italian promising prospect. It´s not easy find a new pearl in youth teams. Even in a big country like Brazil, teams with a strong youth departments can´t put every year a star in the making in the first team.

Only Internacional is doing it in regular basis with: Daniel Carvalho, Sobis, Pato, Sidnei, Sandro, Taison, Walter, Marquinhos and other guys that are just role players. I´m really glad to know we are spending in young promises of Italy. Even knowing tha generally, just 1 or 2 players will be first team.

As a São Paulo manager said one time, if we can take just a Breno for entire youth team generation, it was worth the money(Millions) we spent there.

Regarding Braida, I hope we don´t do desperate signs like in the near past(Grimmi, Viudez, Cardaccio). Or we bring gems that can help now(not saying leading the team to a title) like Hernanes, Giuliano or Jucilei, or it´s better to bring some role players used to European game.

Originally Posted by 'The Bulldog'

Brasileiro, dont waste your time with this idiot!!

1. Why criticise someone when they are having a go posting in english, its not the easiest of languages and especially when it might be there second language.

2. So milan's transfer strategy in the past has been a complete failure with Brazilian players: HELLO....kaka, Pato, Silva etc

Brasileiro, pretty much every member on this forum hugely respects you and values your posts, continue the great work mate...

Maybe, Johncharles should focus his attention on english football, if only they could produce as many world champions as brazil has done!!

Thanks for the words, The Bulldog... as you advised, I go to spend my time with more positive things... as today 21:50 of Brazil, theres a HUGE game between São Paulo and Internacional(title implications). I know that the time of the game is horrible for the most of you guys, but several great porspects will be playing, and some of them were(are) linked to us...

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

Glad to see Hernanes getting back to form infront of Braida. Brasiliero, how much do you think Hernanes is worth? and do you think he has what it takes to replace Pirlo at Milan immediately?

I´m not that good with values, but something between 11 and 15 Millions with the way that the Market is now. The problem is that São Paulo(like Internacional) isn´t like Cruzeiro or Fluminense. They don´t sell easy...

But I think that something between that is fair for both clubs...

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

Dunga has something against Milan,somebody who doesnt pick Pato for his national team,especially in his form(2 goals vs Real and leader in attack of Milan)is nuts!

Pato deserves to be in the squad for sure,Dunga rather picks fat Adriano and gives him the chance then Pato.

But who cares,at least we will not have to be scared Pato will return injured from international duty,he also can take some rest,so i dont mind.

Thats a valid point, Dutchie...

Even Dunga admited here(in a interview) that he´s a rancorous guy, so you can count he bad feelings regarding Milan. But not only this, after just 1 or 2 games in the Olimpics he benched Pato and bashed him in the press.

He did it with Kaká after the last ask for dismissal to operate his knee last year, suggesting that some players "loves more the club than NT". But Kaká is Kaká, and even the Brazil NT doctor(Jose Luis Runco) jumped to defend Kaka at the press...

Dunga always chose someone to hate. Pato and Marcelo are doomed, as Dunga bashed them to the press. But guys like J. Baptista, Vagner Love, Afonso Alves, Kleber, Gilberto Silva Adriano has all the chance in the world.

Not a surprise for a guy that did what he did in the past... Not reliable person.

We've apparantly signed a player.... from my #1 hate team in the world Fredrikstad....

Dominic Adiyiah has been bought for around 1,430,000 EURO. Only thing remaining is the players contract but cant see that being a problem.

There's also future percents of next sale involved aswell.

The player has had around 1 match played in this years norwegian top league. He's impressed in the U-20 world cup.

**** this player, i dont care if he comes here. Can't see what he's gonna be doing here anyways....

Goal had Adiyiah in their U-20 WC team of the tourney-

Dominic Adiyiah – Ghana

Arguably the break-out player of the tournament, the Ghanaian striker burst onto the scene, scoring goals freely after forming the partnership of the tournament up front with Ransford Osei for the Black Satellites. Blindingly fast and an immense physical presence, Adiyiah is more than just a lumbering target-man, but also a lethal forward. After moving to Norwegian football in the summer, precisely how long Adiyiah remains in Scandinavia is open to debate, as there certainly will be no shortage of clubs interested in his signature based on his performances in Egypt.



Albertazzi also made it-
ichelangelo Albertazzi – Italy

Yet to really make the break-through with his club side Milan, Albertazzi, 18, showed that he has the potential to become another great Italian centre-back. Italy struggled to put a side together, with many of the team who got to the final of the UEFA Under-19 Championships in 2008 not made available by their various club sides. That gave many lesser known Italian youngsters the opportunity to shine, and Albertazzi was one of many to take his chance with both hands.

http://www.ffksupporter.net/nyheter/nyhet.php?id=1828, the article says that he'll probably be loaned out to a Serie B club from us first. I don't know if that means that we won't use our non-eu spot on him this season or not?

Exciting prospect non the less.

if this news is true, congrats to Galliani.

no matter how he will become, this buy is always good, as his price is very cheap: 1.5M only?

same age as Pato, but cheap, and even more proven than Pato at world-cup level

lets wait until major papers announce this news first, however.

We need a player like Cassano, someone who go deep and help build up play, is tricky and can take on defenses, provides sublime assists and can score from outside the box.

He would be a good combo with any of our current strikers.

1,5 million? Wow, that's cheap. But if I wasn't mistaken, didn't we buy Cardacio at the same price? Let's hope that this guy can do better

1.5 million euros isn't much, but the guy has only been good for two weeks. He was top goalscorer in U20 World Cup.

For Fredrikstad, who'll finish #14 (of 16 teams) in the Norwegian top division, he has only figured in 3-4 (of 29 matches) matches and scored 0 goals.

can Ronaldino dribble past the cones and discs in training?

Originally Posted by HO-YOUNG

can Ronaldino dribble past the cones and discs in training?

I don't know maybe , they are as stationary as himself. But really though the effort he is putting in on and off the ball is woeful its a disgrace. He really does not seem interested and playing Seedorf further up and Flamini might be better at least Flamini will give his all , maybe Dinho is giving his all idk but something must change.

Originally Posted by HO-YOUNG

can Ronaldino dribble past the cones and discs in training?

Haha, don't think Cristiano Ronaldo can either, they don't seem to move out of the way when he does stepovers like Sergio Ramos does in training.

I got bashed before the game yesterday for voicing my lack of trust in Dinho. I wish i had been wrong.

the Parma game could be a problem because ideally i would want to rest Nesta, Dinho, Pirlo, Seedorf, and perhaps Pato before the second Real game. Big problem with that is Janku, Abate, etc being unavalible for the match. I would prefer we not play a lineup of Gattuso, Flamini, Ambro in the mid, that is far too defensive. And who would take Dinho's spot? could Verdi do it?

-----------Dida------------
-Oddo-Silva-Kala-Antonini-
--Gattuso--Flamini--Ambro--
---Boriello--Huntelaar--Verdi?-

i dont think we will be able to rest all of our players that need it. i hope the lineup for Madrid is something like-

-----------Dida------------
-Zambro-Nesta-Silva-Favalli-
--Flamini--Pirlo--Seedorf--
---Pato--Huntelaar--Dinho-

Huntelaar really should start against Madrid, he knows their team. His biggest problem adjusting has been figuring out Italian defenses, but he has already figured out Spanish ones. He will also want revenge.
I dont trust R80, but he seems to still put effort in against Madrid.
The defense is not very attack oriented, but it is the best from a pure defensive standpoint IMO.
Abate can play his best role IMO, which is one of a supersub (for Seedorf?) that comes on against a tired defense and uses his speed to Milan's advantage

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

I´m not that good with values, but something between 11 and 15 Millions with the way that the Market is now. The problem is that São Paulo(like Internacional) isn´t like Cruzeiro or Fluminense. They don´t sell easy...

But I think that something between that is fair for both clubs...

I see.. but you didn't tell me, do you think he can replace Pirlo in the starting lineup? or can he just be a backup? do you think it's worth it to spend our last Non-EU spot on him for January?