Banter 2009/2010

Originally Posted by mrki

People from Curva sud said that Milan will sell Pato to Chelsea in the summer. Those same people said the news about Ricky before Galliani went to MAdrid to fix the deal in short time... Please do not attack me now and talk how that is not a news etc., becouse Im just saying what my friend who goes to see Milan with Curva told me on "MM sa Balkana" forum. So, Im just repeating what he said, nothing more. Rumour from Milan's curva.

OK, now... Astori for Favalli, that is the only place I approve for Astori, nothing more. He is a normal serie a player, nothing more.

If we again lack money for any kind of a serious deal then really... **** it all.

Diego aLves is an excellent GK, I saw im few times. Also players like Bale, Bonucci, Hernanes, Dzeko, Jovetic etc. - those are the players a real Milan needs, not some half players that are free... If we cannot bring in 4,5 quality players, mark my words, we wont have a good team AGAIN. 100mln in needed in here, and we act like Lazio again as it seems now.

I don't know for Bale if he's good enough, etc as he seems very hyped on English websites, and that's the reason of my doubts ...

Anyway, actually, in your list, we can forget Jovetic who is going to become the leader of Fiorentina next season (he can say thanks to Mutu because since he has been suspended, he plays a lot more and develops very very very quickly) and as a consequence, I don't think Fiorentina will sell him and I don't see us giving them 35M-40M to force them to consider the offer.

But apart from Dzeko who is a special case (player wanted by Berlusconi, by Galliani, by Leonardo, so typically the kind of player that Berlusconi could pay for Milan, offer to Milan, without spending the money of Milan, a bit like Ronaldinho), the others are realistic targets and not so expensive.

I think 40M can be "enough" for Bale, Bonucci and Hernanes ...

well its a really strange situation,i usually dont write about transfers when we have a match ahead,and i actually wont..

the thing is that as much as i would love to win serie a,i dont know how it would be interpreted by the MGMT,just imagine silvio after a victorious championship..THIS silvio,will have the doors open to continue his economical plans abou finivest,by saying milan can achieve a lot because its a club "full of champions".

i think some players are having their last big season,their last effort for sth good,maybe they got motivated because of world cup maybe because of Leo,BUT i think that this is a misleading season,we re not that good..

and if we dont invest this summer(i cant see it happening),we'll see awful staff next year for sure.

i know many wont agree,but thats my honest point of view..

Originally Posted by Mystik

Stitch: Our team needs a lot more than just a striker. We need a creative box-to-box midfielder, a CD to eventually replace Nesta and a good fullback who can actually DEFEND and CROSS before we buy a striker.

I totally agree that we need a lot more than just a striker. But I can't agree that we need it more.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

I don't know for Bale if he's good enough, etc as he seems very hyped on English websites, and that's the reason of my doubts ...

Gareth Bale is a very very good player, maybe not world class but damn hes young so i wouldnt expect him to be, the only reservation i have about him is he is wonderful going foward *coughJankuand AntoniniCough* but i have never seen him really really tested defensivly, i would post some youtube links of him from this season with his balls into the box and his pace but you cant really judge a player from youtube.

Bale is not Milan class...he is not better than Antonini...everybody is better than Jankulovski...he past his prime and was never a real Wing back...he is so slow for a wing back...not dynamic...i want Bordeaux's left wing back...

he cost around 8 m euros and since 2 years im following him,always impressed me...

i'd rather to have him to Bale...my first choice is him then Criscito at LB would be interesting...

worst scenario;

The money will be spend on Hernanes,Krasic and Trem...(15+15+8)with the sale of Huntelaar and getting rid of some high salaries...Berlusconi factor...

sign free agent players like Cacau,Simplicio...

Astori and Adriano completes the puzzle...

40 m euros on Dzeko is too much guys...with that money,i'd rather to spend on 3 players that i mentioned above...that trio is more important than Dzeko for me...


Cacau and Simplicio brings quality from the bench...

================Abbiati=============================

if its up to me,i'd sign a world class GK and offload Roma,Coppola,Stotari and Dida...Abbiati as bench GK and him as first choice could be my preference...

Zambrotta=======Nesta=========Silva==============Tremoulinas==

Neither Abate nor Zambrotta convince me,we need to sign someone there as well...Astori as Silva and Nesta reserve is good,like mrki said,he doesnt convince me too...he is right about him...

=============Flamini========Pirlo==========Hernanes==========

Seedorf,Simplicio,Ambrosini and Gattuso are reserves...

=====Pato===============Adriano==============Ronaldinho====

Cacau vice Adriano and vice Striker,Borriello,Krasic at RB would do much more than Abate or Zambrotta.switch him to there...if we dont find position for him...he is perfect as vice Pato...switch Pato to left...Dinho in Serie A never a doubt for me yet CL is a big doubt...he cant play like he does in Serie A in high tempo and vs solid defences...

Above all,we need to sign Quality players for both starting line up and for the bench...

PS:if Milan sells Pato to Chealse,we will be finished and cant compete for the top 4 even for Euro Leauge...he is too important for this 4-3-3 thing,without him we cant do well...

Both Kaka and Sheva was in decline before they left,Milan was right to sell them yet Pato is different story...still have much to offer...he is too young...i dont think it will be same scenario...

Milan has to spend big on midfield trio and striker position and wing back to win CL...

Bale is only 20 years old, with good coaching and guidance he can become something, trust me on this.

My squad for next season

Abbiati, Alves, Donnarumma/Miskiewicz

Nesta, Silva, Abate, Antonini, Bastos, Bonera,
Albertazzi, Astori, Godin, Zambrotta

Flamini, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Seedorf, Krasic, Strasser, Galloppa, Pastore, Feghouli,

Pato, Dzeko, Borriello/Hunter, R80, Cacau, Adiyah, Verdi.

Not many expensive additions, and a competitive younger squad created with much potential.

Look at the statistic, Tremoulinas must be very good at supporting the attack. He made 7 assists, the same as 2 WC fullbacks: Maicon and Alves (both we can't buy). He is a true upgrade. However, I do not know about his defensive capability as I now can only look at the numbers.

We should find a player that can play well at both center and on the flank. It will be the most useful as Seedorf (sometimes Pirlo) and Pato proved themself in their positions. I think this versatile player will have more chance to be signed.

I like Adiriano's abilities, but not the person himself. Milan should get more professional player. He is the last one I think of.

When we lost to Deportivo, Liverpool, Barcelona or Arsenal, I felt sad, but last match was the most humiliating emotion, in contrast to the joy 3 years ago. This lose mean the defeat of an old value to a new one. MU's domination in PL and success in CL remind the Milan of Sacchi and Capello, so I both respect and dislike them. We hate someone when he has something the same as us, right? MU is somehow a new Milan of England.

I know that many of us feel humiliating, like me, therefore Berlusconi must feel more. This is the good time for him to spend. We don't need to change more than half of the squad, just one or two WC signings and some useful one to upgrade and maintain good run.

I'm waiting to see. Hope that we will be satisfy at the end of August.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan...dnotizia=20171

News about Krasic ... and I don't know how it has to be taken: it seems we made an offer that was accepted by CSKA this Winter but couldn't sign him because we already filled the 2 non-EU spots.

His price is around 15M and if an offer was accepted, that means we're going to have a real budget for our transfers this Summer (which doesn't mean we'll spend 100M).

The guy said he wants to play for Real, and if he can't, his second favourite team is Milan.

Anyway, the end of the article is ambiguous: his agent confirmed our interest, but said no contract was signed. Does that mean that our 15M offer is still available ? Or does that just mean that our club asked again informations about the player ?

There are also rumours that Inter could offer Balotelli + 40M for Kaka' ... Firstly, that would be the best way to destroy a talent for the Italian NT and then, if that was to be accepted by all parts (Inter, Madrid, Kaka', Balotelli), that would definitely kill the image of Kaka'. I think it's only a ruumour, because I just can't imagine Kaka' under an Inter shirt, it's just impossible for our minds I think.

regarding the Kaka scenario i would imagine there is more chance of us signing Messi,Ibra,Buffon,Lavezzi,Terry,Lampar,Rooney,Dzeko and Hamsik

Originally Posted by GeoTav

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan...dnotizia=20171

News about Krasic ... and I don't know how it has to be taken: it seems we made an offer that was accepted by CSKA this Winter but couldn't sign him because we already filled the 2 non-EU spots.


There are also rumours that Inter could offer Balotelli + 40M for Kaka' ... Firstly, that would be the best way to destroy a talent for the Italian NT and then, if that was to be accepted by all parts (Inter, Madrid, Kaka', Balotelli), that would definitely kill the image of Kaka'. I think it's only a ruumour, because I just can't imagine Kaka' under an Inter shirt, it's just impossible for our minds I think.

so what happened?
galiani didnt know that we had no room for a non-eu player?????????
or he didnt know that krasits was non-eu????

kaka-inter???

tuttomercato=rubbish-rubbish-rubbish!!

Just popped up a question: how much would Jovetic cost?

20 million at least. And that is the price for foreign clubs. Domestic giants will have to pay more than that.

what abou Joe Cole? his contract is expiring, not really young 29yo though, playing center or left,

he really fits our mgt policy and I think he could still be useful..

I think I read it somewhere that we are interested in Joe Cole, doubt it would actually happen though. Not many English players want to leave their country. Besides, Man Utd is after him hard, Sir Alex has always been a huge admirer of his.