Summer Mercato 2010

hey if we stay with Hunter or can get Fabiano for Hunter basically , i'd prefer Fabiano honestly.

Torres might be a tad over-rated because he plays in Liverpool, but I would say the same things about Gerrard or Lampard, and other EPL players. However, I still think Torres is a fantastic player and one that truly is one of the world's best strikers, whether he is one of the greats, like Van Basten or something, is another issue all together.

I would not want Torres in Milan because he's from Spain. I don't know if he would succeed in Serie A or with Milan. That would be my hesitancy. There's something about Spanish players in Italy and Italian players in Spain that just doesn't work right.

Dzeko, on the other hand, has done far more than "score a few goals." He has been fantastic not only when Wolfsburg were winning the Bundesliga last year, but also while Wolfsburg were struggling this year. Not just goals (top scorer this year) but also quite a few assists. Dzeko is underrated because he's from Bosnia. If he was playing for Portugal or England, people would be going crazy over him.

Torres is a fantastic and exciting player, but not someone I'd like at Milan, for economic and tactical reasons. I see why some people are saying Torres is overrated, though I do not agree completely, however, I think if he was from a country other than Spain, I don't think we would care about him as much.

As for Milan's moves in the transfer market, I'm not sure what to believe. Thiago Silva saying that he wants to stay until he's 40 is fantastic. Marco Amelia excites me. It seems Zambrotta is actually getting back to his best. If Amelia comes to us, that means Dida rumors can end, while we seem to be working to take Astori back.

I think the management is actually trying. I'm not sure if I want Fabiano for Huntelaar, mostly because of his age, not his ability. Yes, I think that at 29-30, we need to look for younger players. Its amazing how with a new player, we don't care about the age, but when its a player that actually plays for us, than we go "Oooh Ronaldinho is 30 and he is finished!"

If we're going to sell Huntelaar, I say we should buy Dzeko. Though it seems that loans are the way that we're going to go, which I'm fine with. I just hope we can offload Janku and Kaladze, who should show some loyalty to the club. While I argue that giving out long contracts is not necessarily a bad thing, it is Milan's responsibility to take care and honor its contracts. But these contracts were rewarded and given out of a loyalty Milan has to its players. These players should reciprocate this sort of loyalty, and I do not think they are doing that by blocking moves.

No one really is talking about this Marco Amelia business, isn't this the sort of younger keeper that we wanted?

Im interested to see if there really be any step forward this summer.As the last couple of years Im sick and tired of hearing ....WE ARE CLOSE TOO...WE ARE LOOKING AT...WE ARE LOOKING TOO...WE WILLTALK WITH..WE ALMOST HAD ....WE DECIDED AGAINST...ACTUALLY WE ARE FULL OF CHAMPIONS.You know what I mean hopefully they realise we are in bad shape and need to rejuvinate the squad with players, and iut doesnt have to be 100 million spent.

Anyone who says torres is overrated musnt be taken seriously about football.
And yes he had to score a few goals yesterday but go watch him a whole season, he is a fantastic striker.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

So Torres is over-rated but Dzeko is not since he does not even have a chance to show his skills in the WC to be call over-rated.

I guess Cesc is also over-rated too, b/c he rarely starts for Spain.
Pato is another over-rated player since he did not even make it into the Brazil squad.
Rooney is another over-rated player b/c he has been missing chances.
To top it all, the Golden Boot in Europe and Best player in the World Messi is also over-rated b/c he has 0 goals but at least 15 chances in the WC.

when you read my posts with attention instead of hatred, i may dignify you with an answer.

to the rest: i did not say torres is a bad player. not at all. he is in the top 5-7 strikers in the world, IMO. But people here drool over him like he's some kind of Pele/Maradona/Eusebio, all in one person. he is way overhyped for his skills.
and, for the tenth time, my opinion is NOT based solely on yesterday's game, that game is only an example.

btw Dzeko is, as of now, a better player.

now go on in your ignorant ranting.

Originally Posted by Stitch

when you read my posts with attention instead of hatred, i may dignify you with an answer.

to the rest: i did not say torres is a bad player. not at all. he is in the top 5-7 strikers in the world, IMO. But people here drool over him like he's some kind of Pele/Maradona/Eusebio, all in one person. he is way overhyped for his skills.
and, for the tenth time, my opinion is NOT based solely on yesterday's game, that game is only an example.

btw Dzeko is, as of now, a better player.

now go on in your ignorant ranting.

No Ignorant ranting , in my eyes Fernando Torres is a better striker than Edin Dzeko.Dzeko may go on to be better than Torres but at the moment on the games they have played and what they have achieved Torres is a better player , I think your biased to Dzeko and he is very good but in my opinion he is not better than Torres.And may not achieve what Torres has already.

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

Im interested to see if there really be any step forward this summer.As the last couple of years Im sick and tired of hearing ....WE ARE CLOSE TOO...WE ARE LOOKING AT...WE ARE LOOKING TOO...WE WILLTALK WITH..WE ALMOST HAD ....WE DECIDED AGAINST...ACTUALLY WE ARE FULL OF CHAMPIONS.You know what I mean hopefully they realise we are in bad shape and need to rejuvinate the squad with players, and iut doesnt have to be 100 million spent.

its crazy to see how many names we are linked with... more than usual that's for sure. to be honest the only one that i think will come is Lazzari, and someone random... like Amelia

HOw can you say that Torres is over-rated if you admit he is a top 5-7 strikers in the world?

Nobody is saying Torres is Pele/Maradona..... All people, myself included are saying that he is one of the top striker in the world and any fans, any managers, any coaches and any team would love to have Torres playing for them instead of against him without worrying about transfer budget.

Is Dzeko a better striker than Torres at this moment, the answer is no. He could be if Torres remain at his level now.

To me, I would rather have Torres playing with Pato in the MIlan attack than Dzeko and Pato. As Torres and Pato are probably the fastest strikers pair I could think of and I doubt any Serie A teams have the speed to catch them in Counter.

speed doesnt always count for something
positioning and heading can grab the world to

Originally Posted by M.O.I.

fabiano is amazing tonight..

even better than henry :P

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Personally I think two of Pirlo, Seedorf and Dinho should not be play together in the same team. As all three of them lacks movement on the pitch and lacks the will to track back to defend.

it's really harsh to put Pirlo in the same category as those two regarding movement & effort!!!

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

HOw can you say that Torres is over-rated if you admit he is a top 5-7 strikers in the world?

Nobody is saying Torres is Pele/Maradona..... All people, myself included are saying that he is one of the top striker in the world and any fans, any managers, any coaches and any team would love to have Torres playing for them instead of against him without worrying about transfer budget.

Is Dzeko a better striker than Torres at this moment, the answer is no. He could be if Torres remain at his level now.

To me, I would rather have Torres playing with Pato in the MIlan attack than Dzeko and Pato. As Torres and Pato are probably the fastest strikers pair I could think of and I doubt any Serie A teams have the speed to catch them in Counter.

as I said overrated doesn't mean that he is bad, just that he is not that good as people rate him. for example, i'd never say pippo (nowadays) is overrated, but that doesn't mean he is great.

Yes, Torres' achievments so far in his career are far greater than Dzeko's, there's no denying that. But I'd argue that it has nothing to do with skills, but with the fact that Torres plays for Spain, and Liverpool, while Dzeko plays for lowly Bosnia (which made the biggest success with him as a leader, and ALMOST qualified for wc with players like Hasagic, Jahic, Ibricic and Muratovic in first 11), and Wolfsburg (you are familiar with his success there, I'm sure).

EDIT: while torres is certalinly faster and quicker than Dzeko, I'd argue that we need Dzeko's attributes much more (shot with both feet, tall, great header, ability to play wide and run into defenders, ability to hold the ball without losing it...)

Originally Posted by Stitch

as I said overrated doesn't mean that he is bad, just that he is not that good as people rate him. for example, i'd never say pippo (nowadays) is overrated, but that doesn't mean he is great.

Yes, Torres' achievments so far in his career are far greater than Dzeko's, there's no denying that. But I'd argue that it has nothing to do with skills, but with the fact that Torres plays for Spain, and Liverpool, while Dzeko plays for lowly Bosnia (which made the biggest success with him as a leader, and ALMOST qualified for wc with players like Hasagic, Jahic, Ibricic and Muratovic in first 11), and Wolfsburg (you are familiar with his success there, I'm sure).

EDIT: while torres is certalinly faster and quicker than Dzeko, I'd argue that we need Dzeko's attributes much more (shot with both feet, tall, great header, ability to play wide and run into defenders, ability to hold the ball without losing it...)

What about Torres in Atletico ?
And before the last Euro, Spain was "just" a good team ...

Torres is fast skillful can score with his head can shoot with BOTH YES BOTH feet , is also 6'1 so he's tall too , he carried Atletico for years and they were pretty bad and as was said before the last Euro's Spain were only a decent team who underachieved.

Silvio Berlusconi Rules Out Milan Sale, Adriano Galliani Tells Barcelona's Zlatan Ibrahimovic There's No Room At The Inn

Milan president Silvio Berlusconi has sent a clear message that his club is not for sale, while Adriano Galliani has said the transfer market is open for business, but not for Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

The Rossoneri have been marked for sale by reports in Italy with Arab investors ready to generate a mega takeover.

However, Berlusconi has said Milan are not short for money, and thus no sale is necessary.

"First you would have to see if there is someone really passionate about Milan ready to invest €50 million per annum like my family has done every year," he told Oggi magazine.

"Then, Milan is the club that has won the most trophies in the world, more than Bernabeu's Real Madrid.

"Thanks to Milan I am the most successful club president in the history of football."

Galliani says the times of major spending are gone, leaving little room for Ibrahimovic.

"Ibrahimovic? Impossible. He costs too much. Plus the financial system in Spain is better," he told Sky Sport Italia.

"In Spain there is a more favourable tax regime. Barcelona pays a lower [tax] than an Italian team. So it is impossible he could return to Italy. It's not conceivable that he would reduce his salary."

There is a chance for Luis Fabiano though.

"Will Luis Fabiano play for Milan? I hope so. I spoke to him last year, but the move didn't happen. He has impressed me the most at the World Cup," he concluded.

"He could be the new purchase, but if he doesn't leave [Sevilla] then he can't arrive

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