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Old 27-04-2009, 13:08   #1696

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I don't know. I've been thinking about our mercato and I came to some conclusions.

1.) A great central defender is a must. Although we all knew that, it is now crystal clear that our best defender is Maldini and he's leaving. A partner for Thiago must be bought and Agger could be the one. Santacroce is good, and has lots of potential but it seems unlikely Berlu and Zamparini will sit down together and trade. But if it happens, would be great.

2.) Gourcuff MUST be brought back and given first team spot on Seedorf's expense.

3.) Flamini should be made a permanent RB if we don't get a better one, which is again very unlikely since there are few that fit the description and don't cost too much. Of course, Daniel Alves is the best out there but is too expensive.

4.) I am not so sure anymore we need a striker. Our attack is the best in Italy even without Borriello. Pato, Borriello, Inzaghi, Viudez, Paloschi seems good enough with Kaka helping when necessary.

So all in all, a cheap mercato is possible.

Agger - free
Gourcuff - free
Santacroce - 18 mil???
NIce conclusion....We do really need a central forward...Don't be fooled by our current results...Difficult days lie ahead....Trust me this is just the beginning...we must get a CF and prepare for the future in case things get difficult which will...To win championships, u have to fight...we need that and a CF would compliment us on that...A tall one
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Old 27-04-2009, 13:11   #1697

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That's why we have Borriello. If he keeps getting injured, than we buy someone in January.
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Old 27-04-2009, 13:12   #1698

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No ... as Agger has a contract ending in 2010, if he doesn't renew before the next mercato, we'll have to pay something like 7-8M to have him I think.

I know Santacroce is a rock, but 18M is a lot I think. I don't know where you found this price or if it's the price you think we'd need to pay, but we need to negotiate this price anyway (no more than 15M).
Santacroce is definitely worth 15mil...He's very very good...prob the best young defender out there...I've been dreaming of having Santacroce for a long time...I hope it becomes a reality...
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That's why we have Borriello. If he keeps getting injured, than we buy someone in January.
True..but its good for us not to risk it...We've risked so many things...We've done that with our defense...Nesta injured and then procastinating to buy a new defender...it has happened before to us and we paid the price, we shouldn't do that for the striking department...We should just get a WC CF and move on...prevention is better than cure
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Hehe, dude, Trez, Sheva, Morientes and Adriano are all WC Forward.

Trez is the best from them
You mean they were all WC CF...not anymore
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I agree but we will not spend big. We are not chelski. Of course it is best to buy a WC player for every department but it will not happen.
Defense is the priority, if we have 20 mils, we should spend it on defense.
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True but Galliani said it will be young players that we'll get..a young WC CF and young WC CB.....Defense isn't a prob because its already certain that we'll get a WC CB..however, we still need a WC CF...
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Santacroce is definitely worth 15mil...He's very very good...prob the best young defender out there...I've been dreaming of having Santacroce for a long time...I hope it becomes a reality...
Yeah, no more than 15M means paying 15M, but if possible, not more ...
I don't see us paying more for a so young defender who has all to prove yet. I may be wrong. Anyway, we all agree that Santacroce would be a great addition to our team !!
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A CB pair of Santacroce and Thiago silva...That's Hard core...I wish that we get him...I really do..
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Old 27-04-2009, 13:27   #1705

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OK.
My mistake about Agger.
20-25 mil for both of them?
Still cheap.

Yeah, let do it, mister Berlusconi


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7-8M for Agger is peanuts, but at the moment it looks unlikely he'll sign a new contract, so it could very well come down to that. He's worth twice that, at least compared to what people seem to be paying for defenders these days.

Honostly I wasn't really sold on Santacroce before the winter break, but he's really proved me wrong. He seems like a big game players, had great games against us, Inter and Juventus, and still we can't forget the potential 6+5 rule which could potentially inflate prices on Italian, English and Spanish players, so a young Italian could prove to be vital.

Neither was I, I will be his fan if he come here. The 13 number he is wearing means something, isn't it ^^
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Old 27-04-2009, 13:29   #1706

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Yeah, no more than 15M means paying 15M, but if possible, not more ...
I don't see us paying more for a so young defender who has all to prove yet. I may be wrong. Anyway, we all agree that Santacroce would be a great addition to our team !!
Well even after the win against Inter Napoli are still 12th, and FAR away from UEFA Cup football. Perhaps this could be the thing that could make this transfer possible. It seems like they'll probably be more keen on selling Santacroce than Hamsik or Lavezzi.

Although we still haven't been linked in any way with him, as far as I know, which is just to bad.
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You mean they were all WC CF...not anymore

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A CB pair of Santacroce and Thiago silva...That's Hard core...I wish that we get him...I really do..

Do we need some petition ^^

Santacroce seems like a black Nesta to me, not only defensive skills, but also the professional attitude.

He used to play deep lying CB, which will cover well for T. Silva, who likes to attack (and Agger).

He is Italian/Brazilian, that is the advantage.
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I know right...i wasn't the only one who noticed the #13 on Santacroce's back....Pato himself confessed that the defender that has always stopped him is Santacroce...And he believes he's the best defender....
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Old 27-04-2009, 14:52   #1709

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Brasileiro, I wasn't trying to be ironic about Fabregas. I just meant that the fact that he left Spain as a 16 year old might make him a "special case" compared to others who left when they were in their prime - be they Suarez or Mendieta.

Regarding the media, maybe you read Marca etc. more than I do (and as I rarely read them, that's very possible ) but I don't recall any particular "protectiveness" that makes the Spanish media stand out. I think generally the media in all countries look more favourably upon their own players than they do on foreign players.

Anyway many players will struggle when out of their "comfort zone". Because of the different environment and the difference in terms of playing style.
If it wasnīt the case, sorry Ceceves. I completely misunderstood your post

Maybe Iīm wrong, but since I read a lot of these Spanish(and Italians, English) Papers(mostly the opinions), It amuses me how unfair and sometimes racists are the Spanish(sports) press...

Btw, every time a bash a player here, the guy explodes in the next game: Cech was the first and yesterday Raul...

At least the most overrated defender of the last 4 years donīt let me down: Thank you, Sergio Ramos!!

As CB this guys was always a disaster, and Iīm not even talking about the amount of yellow and red cards. As a right-back he was great, but even that position he canīt play more...what happened to this guy??
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Some good text! Sorry for offtopic's!

Flamini quarterback, the bet won by tactics Ancelotti!!


Carlo Ancelotti has always liked to bet. It must be clear, not in the shops of the bookmakers, but on the field. Since he arrived at Milan, was in Italy but also in Europe, one of the most important innovators of football the last decade.

To him we owe the confirmation of Andrea Pirlo as a director down, the role the number 21 Rossonero had already held in Brescia with Carletto Mazzone, the true discoverer of Pirlo in his current role, the pace of the whole ball game on the ground and fantasy voted mainly on the offensive rather than the example difresa with the 2002/03 season, where the field was one of containment midfielder, Gattuso, and five players from the strong offensive skills: Pirlo, Rui Costa, Seedorf, Rivaldo and one of Inzaghi,Scheva and Tomasson.

A Carlo Ancelotti should be given great credit for having blown up two talent pure and refined as those of Kakā and Pato who, thanks to technical Reggiolo, have become, Kakā, and are becoming, you see the item Pato, among the players strengths of the World. Mathieu Flamini has turned down the role of quarterback right. In this new position from anonymity Flamini is out of competition for a jersey at midfield and has taken two Sundays of the title track to the right of defense, churn out good performances by combining quality and quantity on the band is not seen with due proportions, the time of Cafu.
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