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#3Forever
24-08-2010, 10:55
In what part of 'looks good, link?' did I say he was a centre back?
Oh sorry it was Tony75 who said it
Gabriel489
24-08-2010, 10:59
Ibra in and kale and janku out would be a dream come true for me, heck any of the so called champions out of Milan is a dream for me.
Oh sorry it was Tony75 who said it
No problem.
Hitman, sorry, all these uruguans are confusing me.
The player I saw a video of and asked for a news report link was Sebastian Coates. He is the leftback. Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRz5FOJ-kPA
Where is the news link by the way?
hitmannq8
24-08-2010, 11:11
its on TMW, milannews and rossoneriblog
Coates is cb, other player we have signed unofficially is rb, who can play lb.
#3Forever
24-08-2010, 12:29
Coates is cb, other player we have signed unofficially is rb, who can play lb.
Who is better? I know we need fullbacks but does he have the quality to play in the first team?
from youtube I got only get a good link for coates and he was impressive, but then it was youtube. Better than bonera, yepes in def, and seemed to have good pass forward and obviously wins most headers with height.
Robinho made a statement today: he doesn't want to leave in Turkey.
He also said he has offers coming from Italy and Spain. Medias think the two clubs are Milan and Barcelona.
And now, that lets me think that if we get Ibrahimovic, we will have to let Robinho go to Barcelona ... and we would have no choice: by refusing, we could get nobody, Ibra could stay in Barcelona and Barcelona could do a kind of forcing to get Robinho. Anyway, right now, friends or not, if I were an official of Barcelona, it's something I would include in the deal with Milan for Ibrahimovic.
For the 2 young players, I didn't see anything official, nor unofficial on TMW.
- Janku & Kaladze could leave. I don't understand how we can terminate their contracts without money. If we will lose money, let them train for an entire year and fine them if they miss any trainings. If we can simply rescind without paying their wages for the next year, let's go for it. Abate also seems out (good riddance, I never thought he was good enough). Montelongo will be a direct replacement for Abate, and rumors say Coates will one of our CBs in our first squad come August 31 (ruling out Bochetti).
If they stay, we'll lose tax money for their wages.
This could be at least a warning for them. If the contract is recinded, their reputation would be affected badly and the new wage for them at new clubs would be much smaller.
Better a warning than really terminating, but the latter is still good.
#3Forever
24-08-2010, 14:07
Robinho made a statement today: he doesn't want to leave in Turkey.
He also said he has offers coming from Italy and Spain. Medias think the two clubs are Milan and Barcelona.
And now, that lets me think that if we get Ibrahimovic, we will have to let Robinho go to Barcelona ... and we would have no choice: by refusing, we could get nobody, Ibra could stay in Barcelona and Barcelona could do a kind of forcing to get Robinho. Anyway, right now, friends or not, if I were an official of Barcelona, it's something I would include in the deal with Milan for Ibrahimovic.
For the 2 young players, I didn't see anything official, nor unofficial on TMW.
Robinho over Ibrahimovic though for me. I bet he could play trequartista and less expensive. Does he have an English passport?
#3Forever
24-08-2010, 14:32
Sampdoria lead Werder Bremen 2-0 at the half. Now just go cantenaccio and keep it like this :P
Robinho over Ibrahimovic though for me. I bet he could play trequartista and less expensive. Does he have an English passport?
He has a Spanish one :D
#3Forever
24-08-2010, 15:00
He has a Spanish one :D
This could be good.....:mex:
Kaka1899
24-08-2010, 15:09
theoretically we could sign Ibra and Robinho no?
slifersd
24-08-2010, 16:15
theoretically we could sign Ibra and Robinho no?
From a non EU perspective, yes. From any other perspective, no.
Kaka1899
24-08-2010, 16:37
thought so, Silvio get your finger out it could cost you votes! :D
Warro Bantan
24-08-2010, 17:02
So now we are thinking that signing both Ibra and Robinho is a possibility?
When ***s fly!!
Hasan Rossonero
24-08-2010, 17:18
Hassan, agree on points 1 and 2, to a certain extent point 3, but for point 4 - we are poor and are not able to outbid others.
We are getting him on loan and are paying half of his salary. When we outbid the best teams in Europe to buy a superstar or even up and coming talent, then and only then can your fourth claim begin to becoem credible.
Point 4 was something of a hypothetical. If Berlusconi were indeed invested in the club like he used to be, we would be bidding competitively regardless of our revenue. However, fiscal probity seems to be the law for hardened crooks now, so what can you do?
Point 4 was something of a hypothetical. If Berlusconi were indeed invested in the club like he used to be, we would be bidding competitively regardless of our revenue. However, fiscal probity seems to be the law for hardened crooks now, so what can you do?
'If' doesn't exist.
On another note - Sampdoria. They just did not have the fitness to compete with the Germans towards the end of the match and the extra time. It hurts Seria A that the league starts after other leagues and amazingly after CL qualifiers. Am I right in also saying that Seria A finishes either after or right before the CL final. Lack of organisation.
Hasan Rossonero
24-08-2010, 20:09
'If' doesn't exist.
On another note - Sampdoria. They just did not have the fitness to compete with the Germans towards the end of the match and the extra time. It hurts Seria A that the league starts after other leagues and amazingly after CL qualifiers. Am I right in also saying that Seria A finishes either after or right before the CL final. Lack of organisation.
Yes, it was framed as an 'if' from the outset.
Quite apart from the lack of organization, which is frustrating, is the inability of Italian teams to see out a result. I just knew Samp would blow it. 3-0 up at home, and you give up a late goal and the psychological advantage. When Pazzini made it 2-0, I thought that the team had peaked too early. Couple that with, as you say, the lack of fitness, and it is no wonder that they are out.
Gabriel489
24-08-2010, 22:54
It was a good game and the better team won. Samp just ran out of gas, kind of like Milan or any other IT teams in Europe beside Inter. Just hope Samp can do well in Europa.
We could have had C. Pizzaro from Chelsea in exchange for Kaladze 2 years ago, instead everyone here was complaining that we allready have Borrielo. Pizzaro is superior to Borrielo in every way, he can actually finish and is capable of powerful long range shots. He may not be ideal but he certainly would have done more for Milan than Borrielo, who at best is a B\C league forward.
i honestly feel like milan will swap Pirlo with Barca, cause i do remember earlier in the transfer campaign that Barca wanted him, and he is one of our best bargaining chips. and with Allegri who openly admitted that seedorf can play that role well.
idk anything can happen, we will see in the upcoming hours.
Galliani has already confirmed talks could last all week and he is prepared to squeeze the Catalans into a deal.
"If there was a need then I could stay there and negotiate until August 31," he said
ACMILAN1983
25-08-2010, 04:49
Kaladze has spoken out against the club, saying that the coach is under orders that him and Janku shouldn't play.
slifersd
25-08-2010, 05:00
Kaladze has spoken out against the club, saying that the coach is under orders that him and Janku shouldn't play.
If the club is so horrible to him, then get the hell out! The coach is not under order to not play those two, he doesn't need any orders to know that those two can't play worth a crap.
Kaladze has spoken out against the club, saying that the coach is under orders that him and Janku shouldn't play.
Im sure that it is 10000% true. But still, Kaladze should have gone when he saw he is not needed, and not stay for money, like Marek.
Gabriel489
25-08-2010, 05:11
I just think they get paid way too much to whine about it. Although both Messi and him are both Gamechanging players, one helps his team to win while the other helps the other team by scoring own goals or making the worst mistakes possible.
Filipéz 182
25-08-2010, 05:23
I hope this ibra talk is all a smokescreen for robinho or dzeko :) let me dream please :D
According to Sky Sport 24, the meeting between Adriano Galliani and Barcelona president, Sandro Rosell, scheduled for 13.30 in the Catalan city at the restaurant "Ca L'Isidre on Calle Las Flores" to treat transfer to AC Milan Zlatan Ibrahimovic is delayed for an hour
According to Sky, the table is booked for four people, which will be Adriano Galliani, Rossel, Ariedo Braida and Zubizarreta, current Barca sporting director.
raiola said there is no chance ibra will be loaned,only transfered..
i think barca will ask some big money,and milan will offer a redicilous loan deal..maybe we're not even close to a chance after all,who would give a player that cost them 70mil one year before, on a loan deal,and still pay him 40%!!(4mil if i m not wrong)..
anyway i dont think that serious negotiations will even start,as we dont have the money needed..and i dont blame barca,i would surely blame them if i were a barca fan and the deal would go through galiani's way..
I hope this ibra talk is all a smokescreen for robinho or dzeko :) let me dream please :D
In the middle of the meeting Galliani's phone will ring twice, one call is from Manchester and the other Wolfsburg
Gabriel489
25-08-2010, 08:12
Watch this is all a smokescreen for Barcelona to buy T.Silva from Milan
In the middle of the meeting Galliani's phone will ring twice, one call is from Manchester and the other Wolfsburg
and then Zubizarreta will start crying and screaming "OKAY YOU WIN??!!TAKE ZLATAN ON LOAN, I PERSONALLY WILL PAY HIS 40%!!JUST TAKE HIM!!"
so galiani will feel sorry for him,and as a gentelman he will give them marek and kaladze on the deal..:5inter:
If Milan loan Ibra with 50% wages paid by Barca, what will be the tax? Using Italian or Spanish one for Milan to pay it?
Sorry, I am asking this with dreaming mode: ON. :D
Thanks before.
Filipéz 182
25-08-2010, 09:33
who would be the cheapest option? Robinho, Ibra or Dzeko?
who would be the cheapest option? Robinho, Ibra or Dzeko?
robinho, and he isnt wanted either. i dont understand why we dont get him now.
hitmannq8
25-08-2010, 10:17
robinho would be the cheapest, the most guaranteed to perform, and the most proven of the 3, and the most likely to win the golden ball... damn. why not both?
Adiyiah, "the next Messi and Aguero" according to Galliani, has been officially loaned to Reggina
mediaset news
Rosell:"Confermo l'inizio della trattativa, ma ci sarà da parlare. Dipende dall'offerta del Milan, si potrebbe arrivare o alla vendita o al prestito, però con lo stipendio pagato dal Milan"
really interesting for me..
if im not wrong rosell says that they can sell or loan ibra as long as we pay his contract(fair enough)!
for me this is gr8 news as i didnt think they would want a loan deal,anyway its up to us now..
mediaset news
Rosell:"Confermo l'inizio della trattativa, ma ci sarà da parlare. Dipende dall'offerta del Milan, si potrebbe arrivare o alla vendita o al prestito, però con lo stipendio pagato dal Milan"
really interesting for me..
if im not wrong rosell says that they can sell or loan ibra as long as we pay his contract(fair enough)!
for me this is gr8 news as i didnt think they would want a loan deal,anyway its up to us now..
The problem is his agent, Raiola, he did some kind of pressing to send his player in Milan, he now says there is nothing (after saying the negotiations started), and he says he doesn't want to send his player on loan, he only wants him to stay in Barcelona or be sold ... We'll see if the guy has a lot of power on Ibra or if he only plays with medias and wants to make Barcelona angry (because the relations between Raiola and Barcelona aren't that good, even very bad).
hitmannq8
25-08-2010, 11:41
Raiola is the only one spoiling everything. He's just thinking about how much he earns he can't care less about what Ibrahimovic wants.
I haven't been this excited about a transfer in ages...last time was probably Ronaldinho, before that Gilardino. Let's see what happens but so far it looks like Borriello will be included as a player + 25m euro deal. Other reports say there will be no player included, others have even reported that Borriello's agent is in Barca right now.
Imagine they announce Ibra tonight......
and Robinho tomorrow..... [/dream]
Hehehehe, stop it people. Dont talk how we'll sign Ibra+Robinho, it sounds childish.
This would be a miracle itself! Fingers crossed now. Borri+25mln is a good offer. We'll see aguess. I doubt it will be today.
Lets kick their ass on the field today ! :)
According to Sonia Gelma of Rac1, as reported in El Mundo Deportivo, negotiations to bring Ibrahimovic to Milan have changed.
It excludes the inclusion of a Milan player in the transaction and there are two scenarios: a loan or transfer in exchange for money
According to the flash Studio Sport of Carlo Pellegatti
Adriano Galliani, should stay in Barcelona tomorrow. The journalist noted that when Galliani treat for more than a day means that the percentage of successful negotiations are on the rise
if ibra leaves,barca will surely need another fw,so it doesnt make a lot of sence,but again they may not be attracted by our "champions"..
if its true then the only way is a loan deal as theres no chance there'll be a str8 money transfer..
anyway patience's needed..
Galliani: we have an AGREEMENT with Ibra
Adriano Galliani, Live in Studio Sport, has reviewed the contract between AC Milan and Barcelona:
"We have an agreement with the player" - he said to Carlo Pellegatti, but the negotiation are difficult. Tomorrow we will meet with President Rosell again I'm willing to stay at Barcelona until Tuesday, the last day of the market.
When was asked "Optimistic" ? Adriano Galliani smiled but declined to answer
if ibra leaves,barca will surely need another fw,so it doesnt make a lot of sence,but again they may not be attracted by our "champions"..
if its true then the only way is a loan deal as theres no chance there'll be a str8 money transfer..
anyway patience's needed..
Don't forget Milan and Barcelona are unofficially both interested by Robinho ...
So I think the following scenario is going to happen: Ibrahimovic will arrive in Milan, and Robinho will join Barcelona in the next few days.
What if Dzeko joins Barca? :d6:
hitmannq8
25-08-2010, 13:00
Reza, damn, damn and 1 more damn if that happens. Dzeko has rejected every offer indicating he wants only Milan. Seems like he is as big a fan as we are, that's what keeps me wishing.
Tassotti
25-08-2010, 13:14
Reza, damn, damn and 1 more damn if that happens. Dzeko has rejected every offer indicating he wants only Milan. Seems like he is as big a fan as we are, that's what keeps me wishing.
He wanted Juventus, too.
Ibra is a better player...
Jay Crisp
25-08-2010, 13:22
Kaladze has spoken out against the club, saying that the coach is under orders that him and Janku shouldn't play.
There just horrible now and are prepared to sit on the bench and maybe not even make the bench rather than leave get a farewell from us and allow us to build a new era , it shows what horrible character they have.
slifersd
25-08-2010, 13:28
Raiola is the only one spoiling everything. He's just thinking about how much he earns he can't care less about what Ibrahimovic wants.
I haven't been this excited about a transfer in ages...last time was probably Ronaldinho, before that Gilardino. Let's see what happens but so far it looks like Borriello will be included as a player + 25m euro deal. Other reports say there will be no player included, others have even reported that Borriello's agent is in Barca right now.
Imagine they announce Ibra tonight......
and Robinho tomorrow..... [/dream]
I disagree with this sentiment, at least from our perspective. If it wasn't for this horse's ass of an agent, Barcelona wouldn't be trying this hard to get rid of a 70 million euro striker they signed a year ago. If anything, we should thank him for being an a-hole.
Kaladze has spoken out against the club, saying that the coach is under orders that him and Janku shouldn't play.
he's an idiot... of course he won't play, he should just get tapes of his performances for Milan and Georgia last season, he was indeed key player but for the opposition... he should be lucky to have the chance to train with Milan with the money he recieves when in normal circumstances he should have be gone far away few seasons ago...
Dr Milano
25-08-2010, 15:00
This Ibra saga is well intresting but surely we aint gonna splash out 30 million odd out of the blue
i really hope borriello goes the other way
Just a thought: should we get Sheva back? After all, in Galliani's definition, he is a champion :).
Elmago99
25-08-2010, 15:25
Now Sell Ronaldinho and buy Honda
-------------Amelia-------------
Sokratis--Nesta-Silva--Antonini
----Boateng-Pirlo-(Merkel/Ambro/Seedorf/Flamini)
------------Honda---------------
--------Pato--Ibrahimovic---------
Very Dangerous, and you have a true trequartista there behind Ibrahimovic and Pato.. Power in the midfield..and a solid back line...
Ronaldinho, while I do love him..and will always think he's one of the greatest..he's a left winger..and played best for Barca and Milan in this role...
I don't see there being room for this formation under this coach with this squad....
Honda would be 15 million..
Sell Huntelaar for 15 and Ronaldino for 10.. (€25 Million Total)
Use that to buy Ibrahimovic and Honda
Loan Kaldze and Jankulovski to finance wages of Honda, and Ibra. and that's that.. end of story....
Squad is set.. Still not World Beaters but A LOT BETTER...
Strikers: Ibra, Pato, Inzaghi, Verdi
Midfielders: Honda, Pirlo, Boateng, Flamini, Ambrosini, Merkel, Seedorf
Defenders: Nesta, T. Silva, Sokratis, Bonera, Antonini, Zambrotta, Onyewu, Oddo, Yepes,
Goalkeepers: Amelia, Roma, Abbiati
Kaka1899
25-08-2010, 15:25
Just a thought: should we get Sheva back? After all, in Galliani's definition, he is a champion :).
Is the Pope Church of England? :D
Hasan Rossonero
25-08-2010, 17:03
Ibra: Guardiola has not spoken to me; I want to play with ROnaldinho (tgcom)
ibrahimovic? he is the king of Serie A, he will do great, yet in CL, its impossible. with Pato, if he stays healty for all season and with a Ronaldinho who trains more, party less, Milan will form a great attack.
But still inter is stronger. we need more ifs to win scudetto.
Boateng, Merkel and Flamini should contribute to midfield and solve the problems there. Right back problem is another case.
Right back is our big problem. Bonera got grilled today.
Breaking news: Ibra-Milan, è fatta!
Breaking news: Ibra-Milan, It's Done!
According to reports from Spain agreement between the parties is reached in the evening after trophy Gamper
slifersd
25-08-2010, 18:27
Vulli, could you post the source, please?
Hasan Rossonero
25-08-2010, 18:33
milannews.it is the source
jvig12183
25-08-2010, 18:41
Right back is our big problem. Bonera got grilled today.
yeah, so did Abate at that position. hopefully zambro does well but they need to get someone to play rb.
vulli you're faster than the news dude!!
okay lets not get overexcited yet..
internet reports in greek gazzeta.gr claim that Ibra stated he has a bad relationship with Guardiola and that he would love to play next to Ronaldinho.
I know some people dont want him but still, i think it will be a great transfer.
Bosniaco
25-08-2010, 20:48
Total bullshi.t, Galliani is stupid spend all that money on this moron. Get Robinho who is 26 and a lot cheaper, get Dzeko who is 24. Fu.ck Ibra !!!
#3Forever
25-08-2010, 21:00
yeah, so did Abate at that position. hopefully zambro does well but they need to get someone to play rb.
I think Zambrotta can pull of right back.......or maybe play with 3 center backs and have Abate as wingback. Abate is fast and skilled, just needs to improve his crosses.
Total bullshi.t, Galliani is stupid spend all that money on this moron. Get Robinho who is 26 and a lot cheaper, get Dzeko who is 24. Fu.ck Ibra !!!
I can understand your rejection but seeing how reluctant Milan (Berlusconi) on spending money especially big sum of money, Ibra's transfer is something we should be very happy with despite his disadvantage compared with other candidates (Dzeko).
I've never been a big fan of Ibrahimovic, but he was brilliant for Inter. He's a proven commodity in Serie A. I'm not sure how anyone could possibly say that Dzeko would be a better player or Robinho would be a better player since neither have ever played in Italy. There may be reasons to like each of them, but Ibra is by far the most sure bet to succeed.
Elmago99
25-08-2010, 21:41
Total bullshi.t, Galliani is stupid spend all that money on this moron. Get Robinho who is 26 and a lot cheaper, get Dzeko who is 24. Fu.ck Ibra !!!
I understand agree. As a player, Ibra is great and I always wanted him. But hes 29, played for Juve AND Inter...he plays for the money
Dzeko is a Milanista, and is 24..a future star...
from that aspect, he's the better buy for the same price..
Yes.
Ibra is more proven than Dzeko and we need a CF more than wing forward.
So he is the best option now, IMO.
hitmannq8
25-08-2010, 22:48
Milannews report its done!
MilanMikey
25-08-2010, 22:56
hey guys i havent posted in awhile i just got back from rome stayed for 2 weeks.. the soccer section on every paper there said something about ibrahimovics possible transfer to us, and also on some forum a european user commented this :
Ibrahimovic to Milan?
Score: 78August 24, 2010 1:55 am
Seems like Ibrahimovic will be going back to Seria A on a loan from Barca. Milan has given Barca $6mil/year + Boriello in the exchange. Wow I must say that I did not see this coming.
u think sources their found out they did the deal? that would be pretty lame we lose a striker just to loan ibrahimovic? ..
slifersd
25-08-2010, 23:20
hey guys i havent posted in awhile i just got back from rome stayed for 2 weeks.. the soccer section on every paper there said something about ibrahimovics possible transfer to us, and also on some forum a european user commented this :
Ibrahimovic to Milan?
Score: 78August 24, 2010 1:55 am
Seems like Ibrahimovic will be going back to Seria A on a loan from Barca. Milan has given Barca $6mil/year + Boriello in the exchange. Wow I must say that I did not see this coming.
u think sources their found out they did the deal? that would be pretty lame we lose a striker just to loan ibrahimovic? ..
That deal was reportedly proposed by us based on the report of several sources yesterday. I would love that deal if it were true. Losing Borriello really isn't that big of a deal. Its not like he was the second coming of van Basten to begin with.
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 00:47
Finally Ibra arrives as a Milan player, I still can't believe this is true. Now if only Milan sign Drogba, I will no longer need to make transfer request on Winning Eleven to get the best strikers duo on the planet.
MilanMikey
26-08-2010, 01:02
I still think ibrahimovic is a good transfer but for the money i'd so much rather prefer robinho.. robinho and van der vaart and we'd be able to compete for so much more.. and have two younger players ibrahimovic in good form can be a game changer.. robinho is close to that and is more consistent seeng as ibra isnt too good at barca, and van der vaart i know just needs more playing time with kaka there and c.ronaldo who can rotate to that position or in different formaiton vdv would be a give away from real if we tried getting him
With Ibra and a fit uninjured Pato, we can easily top SerieA. Having a player like Ibra in the team will boost the morale of all the players alongside him.
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 01:27
Having Ibra means getting three points against teams who park the bus outside their box.
Hopefully, Flamini and Boteang will be starting over Ambro, Gattuso, Pirlo and Seedorf, that way the defense will have less pressure and there will be more movement in midfield.
Dr Milano
26-08-2010, 01:59
Basically this deal should be made official either today or friday since some of you are already claiming from sources that its official
goal.com on monday had written the deal should have been done by friday so am i gonna wake up to the headlines
IBRA AL MILAN or what :P cant take it anymore :sagrin:
i don't know guys, I'm not too happy about this.
I know I should be, that milan never buys quality players, and Ibra has quality for sure, but I'm just not happy. Ibra is a annoying idiot.
I just hope he makes me change my mind by scoring lots of goals.
Dr Milano
26-08-2010, 02:06
i don't know guys, I'm not too happy about this.
I know I should be, that milan never buys quality players, and Ibra has quality for sure, but I'm just not happy. Ibra is a annoying idiot.
I just hope he makes me change my mind by scoring lots of goals.
amen to that
maybe im crazy, but i still feel one more transfer in the works...
We're signing Zlatan Ibrahimovic (under 30) and people are ****ing complaining?
I give up.....
We're signing Zlatan Ibrahimovic (under 30) and people are ****ing complaining?
I give up.....
im not complaining, i am happy. when he was at ajax and juve he was one of my favorite players....he fell out of favor with me when he joined inter, but i still welcome him with open arms.
ROBINHO now would be icing on the cake........i would kiss that bald headed man if he got Zlatan and Robinho.
Maltese Charlie
26-08-2010, 02:29
im not complaining, i am happy. when he was at ajax and juve he was one of my favorite players....he fell out of favor with me when he joined inter, but i still welcome him with open arms.
ROBINHO now would be icing on the cake........i would kiss that bald headed man if he got Zlatan and Robinho.
Sorry, but not enough.
You MUST also lick Berlu's A.....ss to have a chance on Robinho...........:diablo::ilol:
Kaka1899
26-08-2010, 02:56
We're signing Zlatan Ibrahimovic (under 30) and people are ****ing complaining?
I give up.....
amen brother! Ibra is what 28? the age at which they say most strikers peak at, if he can batter Inter twice and finish as Serie A's capocannoniere and along the way guide us to the scudetto we wont go far wrong, just banding numbers here but lets say Ibra can score 20 to 25 and Pato 15 to 20 goals that is some return for your strikers thats before you even aknowledge what Hunter and Pippo could add in as well!
slifersd
26-08-2010, 03:01
Ok, guys, I have seen the headline on milannews.it about the signing but i have not seen anything anywhere else. Until it is confirmed by the team website, I don't think we should be jumping up and down in joy just yet. It is a hell of a signing, but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here. It wouldn't be the first time Galliani play with our emotions.
Dagnammit! I want Robinho!
Sheva went to Chelsea, sucked, came back and still sucked.
Whats to say Ibra won't be the same?
Robinho proved his form in Santos and Man City. He just doesn't like it in England, nuff said!
We should go for some Real Madrid rejects, VDV, drenthe, marcelo etc.
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 03:48
as long as Dinho is around, no point having Robinho. Having Ibra is good enough for e frontline. Now another strong midfielder will be great.
kastriot
26-08-2010, 03:53
Dagnammit! I want Robinho!
Sheva went to Chelsea, sucked, came back and still sucked.
Whats to say Ibra won't be the same?
Robinho proved his form in Santos and Man City. He just doesn't like it in England, nuff said!
The diffrence is that Ibra didn`t suck in Barcellona..he scored 22 goals. How come nobody acknowledges that since Ibra came to Barca, Messi won the golden boot in Europe.
Sheva in chelsea was out of shape, you could tell. Ibra doesn`t seem so.
devoted_dm
26-08-2010, 04:02
I have been afraid to believe in this transfer, but dammit... I recognize the "old" Galliani now, and I think he's actually going to bring Ibra to Milanello. It always seemed to me that Uncle Fester enjoyed negotiations like this a lot.
Honestly I'm starting to become very optimistic about the next season. Boateng proved last night that he is exactly the kind of midfielder that we have needed - aggressive, fast and skillful. A midfield trio of him, Pirlo and Flamini would be great.
If Ibra joins, we're going to be absolutely lethal up front. Pato, Ibra and Dinho.. the mere idea of an attacking trio like this gives me goosebumps.
The only question then is if we're solid enough in defence. I really like what I have seen from Papa so far, and Silva and Nesta are class players. Antonini isn't the best left back in the world, but definitely adequate. The question is whether our other backs are good enough. Papa is more of a central defender, something Allegri recognizes, Bonera is also a DC, and Zambro and Janku are getting old. So we could still do with some reinforcements in those areas of the field.
But we'll leave that for next summer - if Berlu and Galliani bring us Ibra, I will have no complaints about our market this summer. Rome (or Milan) wasn't built in a day, after all :)
The diffrence is that Ibra didn`t suck in Barcellona..he scored 22 goals. How come nobody acknowledges that since Ibra came to Barca, Messi won the golden boot in Europe.
Sheva in chelsea was out of shape, you could tell. Ibra doesn`t seem so.
I think the goals he scored last season are 16. Still, when he scores 16 in his bad season...
I mean, we just wish Huntelaar will score 16 this season.
Whatever people say, i really want him in Milan. He is world-class, tested and proved suitable for Serie A and judging by his character he will do everything so the world of football will know that he aint just a has-been reject from Barcelona but still one of the top 5 attackers in the game.
Come on guys. He is not even 30 and he is a great striker. I believe an Ibra deal is less risky than buying Robinho or (especially) Dzeko.
Really, i think that if he comes he will own Serie A.
That's what we are talking about right?
Just imagine Ibra with a fit Dinho and a WNI Pato (that will stand for When Not Injured from now on, to break away the jinx...)
I just hope he comes so i can lay on the couch and say: "Now, imagine if we had two more players, one like Xabi Alonso and one like Sergio Ramos..."
kastriot
26-08-2010, 04:24
On more thing added to Ibra Sheva debate.
Sheva was almost 30 when he left for Chealsea...ad Sheva was much more reliant to pace and speed than Ibra is. A player of Ibra stature can easily play top class fotball until 33 years of age.(ex. Drogba). He will move less, but he will definitely can play the targetman without problem.
guys whats all that about robinho,theres no chance we'll get them both!not 1%
and where would he fit in your system?as long as we have dinho he would be useless!!yes useless!lets just hope we get the player,who to me seems the ideal one,the perfect one for this team..and stop this negativism
if it was realistic to talk for mote transfers,i wouldnt think of another fw,maybe a medfielder maybe boccheti..although i think on the cbs we're pretty fine
ps sputnik kastriot meant all his last seasons' goals which were 22,16 was his heague number.and it was pretty fine btw!!
I don't think Robinho would be useless.
It would be like Menezes' Brazil, Pato up front and we sell Huntelaar.
When Pato is injured, Borri up front.
Ronnie/Robinho injured, Pato on either wing.
It can work well. I would love it if we get Robinho or Zlatan. Our attack needs something now. Without Pato or Ronnie we're useless.
brk i think you misunderstood me..
i said robinho would be useless if we get ibra,as long as we have dino then we're full..of course typically even then he wouldnt be useless,but it would be really risky to keep one of them on the bench..
if we didnt get ibra,robinho would be also perfect as dzeko,but saying we want both is too much..
ACMILAN1983
26-08-2010, 05:14
Sputnik, I believe Ibra scored 16 in the league, but 21 in total last season, which in terms of goalscoring was actually pretty normal for him. Anyway, I don't understand why people are discussing his goalscoring record, as he only really ever had one season where he scored more than 20 in a league (his last at Inter). If he is brought, it isn't mainly for his goalscoring, it's for what he offers to the team overall with his movement and quality.
It’s reported in the Italian media that Manchester City will swoop for the Swede, in turn handing Robinho over on loan to the Rossoneri
Don't get your hopes up, there is no deal yet. You can't trust a bald sleazebag like Galliani, for all we know he could be negotiating to sell one of our players to Barca.
I think the goals he scored last season are 16. Still, when he scores 16 in his bad season...
I mean, we just wish Huntelaar will score 16 this season.
Whatever people say, i really want him in Milan. He is world-class, tested and proved suitable for Serie A and judging by his character he will do everything so the world of football will know that he aint just a has-been reject from Barcelona but still one of the top 5 attackers in the game.
Come on guys. He is not even 30 and he is a great striker. I believe an Ibra deal is less risky than buying Robinho or (especially) Dzeko.
Really, i think that if he comes he will own Serie A.
That's what we are talking about right?
Just imagine Ibra with a fit Dinho and a WNI Pato (that will stand for When Not Injured from now on, to break away the jinx...)
I just hope he comes so i can lay on the couch and say: "Now, imagine if we had two more players, one like Xabi Alonso and one like Sergio Ramos..."
U're right, 16 goals in 23 starts & 6 subs in La Liga. He scored the winning only goal against Real and 5 goals in first 5 games.
He had 4 goals more in CL.
I like Robinho, but Ibra is needed more.
kastriot
26-08-2010, 05:24
Sputnik, I believe Ibra scored 16 in the league, but 21 in total last season, which in terms of goalscoring was actually pretty normal for him. Anyway, I don't understand why people are discussing his goalscoring record, as he only really ever had one season where he scored more than 20 in a league (his last at Inter). If he is brought, it isn't mainly for his goalscoring, it's for what he offers to the team overall with his movement and quality.
He might not have scored much goals as in number, but don`t forget that he played for inter...The most defensive side in the league IMO, plus the least creative one from the big guns. Plus those 15+ goals came always when the reuslt was tied...so they were always important ones.
It’s reported in the Italian media that Manchester City will swoop for the Swede, in turn handing Robinho over on loan to the Rossoneri
i think barca will get robinho eventually if they let ibra away(theres no chance they'll stay with 2 scs all season),the thing is that they dont need us(man city and barca) for the deal,as they could just swap them..
i think barca will get robinho eventually if they let ibra away(theres no chance they'll stay with 2 scs all season),the thing is that they dont need us(man city and barca) for the deal,as they could just swap them..
Maybe that's what Fester is working on in Spain.
Sputnik, I believe Ibra scored 16 in the league, but 21 in total last season, which in terms of goalscoring was actually pretty normal for him. Anyway, I don't understand why people are discussing his goalscoring record, as he only really ever had one season where he scored more than 20 in a league (his last at Inter). If he is brought, it isn't mainly for his goalscoring, it's for what he offers to the team overall with his movement and quality.
I couldnt agree more.
Plus, everywhere he goes, he becomes champion. I aint saying that he will 100% deliver the Scudetto if he comes but there seems to be a pattern here...
some reports say that braida is in manchester for robinho,in case ibra situation doesnt go through..
raiola and galiani with common strategy on the meeting with rosell(interestin and important)as it is written that rosell is asking 50mil!
13:28 - Secondo fonti vicine al giocatore, Ibrahimovic per venire incontro al Milan sarebbe disposto a ridursi lo stipendio da 12 milioni netti a 10. (Gazzetta.it)
zlatan takes a pay cut of 2 mil!!
13:28 - Secondo fonti vicine al giocatore, Ibrahimovic per venire incontro al Milan sarebbe disposto a ridursi lo stipendio da 12 milioni netti a 10. (Gazzetta.it)
zlatan takes a pay cut of 2 mil!!
I am not surprised if he will do so. He wants to be the big fish in the pond and this aint the way things are around Camp Nou these times. I dont know if he will join us but i am pretty sure he will leave Barcelona. Guardiola doesnt like him and Ibra doesnt like Guardiola. Plus, they got Villa and they go for Robinho so it's not hard to picture him leaving.
It is reported Rossell wants to keep negotiating ... in Ibiza.
Guys, stop following all this story, Ibra won't come, it was just a smokescreen to allow Galliani to go to some party in Ibiza !! :D
Out of topic: http://www.calciomercato.com/altre-notizie/germania-che-mira-pallonata-coglie-in-pieno-una-giornalista
Look at the video on this page, it's funny, it seems Boulahrouz is the author of the pass, I just say RESPECT !!
13:56 - Galliani ha parlato al termine della riunione: "Sia il Barcellona che il Milan hanno chiarito i rispettivi punti di vista. A questo punto le due società lavotano a una cessione definitiva. Nessun prestito. La strada è ancora lunga, direi che le probabilità che l'affare si concluda sono del 50%. Vorrei chiarire inoltre che Borriello non è in vendita, mentre abbiamo una trattativa per Huntelaar". (Gazzetta.it)
no loan deal........
bori not for sale,we're negotiating for hunter.
it will last for ever
kastriot
26-08-2010, 07:02
It is reported Rossell wants to keep negotiating ... in Ibiza.
Guys, stop following all this story, Ibra won't come, it was just a smokescreen to allow Galliani to go to some party in Ibiza !! :D
Out of topic: http://www.calciomercato.com/altre-notizie/germania-che-mira-pallonata-coglie-in-pieno-una-giornalista
Look at the video on this page, it's funny, it seems Boulahrouz is the author of the pass, I just say RESPECT !!
I am there next month....Geo dont worry I will make sure Galliani stays focused during the stay there. Actually you don`t need to worry at all until you see Berlu in Ibiza...than we have a problem. :D
Tassotti
26-08-2010, 07:13
Secondo quanto riferito da Alessandro Alciato di Sky, il Milan avrebbe trovato l'accordo con Robonho grazie ad una flash-mission di Ariedo Braida a Manchester. La cosa è stata confermata da Adriano Galliani ma in questo momento Ibra resta la prima scelta.
We have an agreement with Robinho if Ibra doesn't come...
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 07:22
Why all of a sudden, Milan is being link with quality players?
devoted_dm
26-08-2010, 07:22
Barca have given Galliani permission to negotiate a contract with Ibra. And Raiola said that even though a cut in wages is not optimal, it is necessary for the deal to go through. All in all it looks like Ibra is definitely ours now, provided that this information is true.
Jay Crisp
26-08-2010, 07:29
I have this feeling that Ibra will arrive on loan but next summer you will see Pato go the other way , we get Ibra on loan and for cheap comparing to the 70 million fee about 30.It just makes no sense get Ibra on loan it just doesnt add up.Also 5 day's left I wouldnt be surprised if the negotiations drag on and Galli says oh we tried , whatever happens Ibra or Robinho I dont care just give us one.
Filipéz 182
26-08-2010, 07:34
I'm hoping for robinho, that way Pato can be our central striker again, wich is much better for him than playing on the wing, he is wasted there.
Ronaldinho-Pato-Robinho That would be sweet :)
kastriot
26-08-2010, 07:45
What doesn`t make sense here is the fact that ...we have "agreed" Robinho if Ibra doesnt come....that will only mean that our mgm together with allegry 5 days to league kick of still dont have resolved the way we are playing. meaning we don`t have a strategy. you can not sound serious when u say If Ibra doesnt come Robinho will.
Both Ibra and Robino are quality but Add hock decision because suddenly they are available. In the long run always it is much more important that we decide a strategy that we will follow even if it meant that we dont buy the best out there.
- Two hour meeting clears haze.
- Only permanent deal is available.
- Ibra prepared to accept wage cut. Raiola confirms this.
- Robinho has agreed to join Milan, and is a backup option if Ibrahimovic falls through.
Arildonardo
26-08-2010, 07:53
I guess Robinho is crossing his fingers and hoping that the Ibrahimovic deal falls through.
Galliani said 50% chance of signing Ibrahimovic. And it seems like it's close to 100% certain that we're getting either him or Robinho. That can't be too bad. :)
What doesn`t make sense here is the fact that ...we have "agreed" Robinho if Ibra doesnt come....that will only mean that our mgm together with allegry 5 days to league kick of still dont have resolved the way we are playing. meaning we don`t have a strategy. you can not sound serious when u say If Ibra doesnt come Robinho will.
Both Ibra and Robino are quality but Add hock decision because suddenly they are available. In the long run always it is much more important that we decide a strategy that we will follow even if it meant that we dont buy the best out there.
Why do you say that ?
Both are strikers (Robinho isn't a winger !!), two different kinds of strikers, but two kinds who would be very helpful for our team. So that just means the club really decided to buy a new striker, and they maybe decided that during this summer, seeing how we struggle to score without Pato, which means there is a plan !!
Anyway, even if Ibra comes, is there any information about the possible deal for Robinho ? Because if it's a loan deal, well, let's go for both players !!
i think both transfers have pros and cons,i have written thousand times why i prefer ibra..
but there is a reason why i think that the binho transfer is gr8 too,not because of his quality or his communiacation with the other 2(both big factors),but because we would have gr8 depth attackingly..pato-binho-dinho can all change positions on a 4-3-3 that means that if one of them is injured or not available,borriello can come in and still play a good 4-3-3..
in the ibra situation things are complicated,cause we cannot change the 4-3-3 to 4-4-2 every time dinho or pato is not available,players must learn playing together under solid and stable tactics..
Galliani: I will meet Ibrahimovic today. We want Ibra, I confirm that Robinho would be the alternative, but perhaps too late for him. We want Ibra
kastriot
26-08-2010, 08:00
- Two hour meeting clears haze.
- Only permanent deal is available.
- Ibra prepared to accept wage cut. Raiola confirms this.
- Robinho has agreed to join Milan, and is a backup option if Ibrahimovic falls through.
let me dream a little bit.
---------------Amelia-------------------
Papa------Nesta-----T.Silva----Anotnini
------------Prince---Flamini-------------
----Pato--------Robniho-------Dinho--
-----------------Ibra-------------------
This team has pace, aggressiveness, technique, tactical awareness, creativity, finishing. In theory it should be a little to unbalanced but Pirnce and Flamini are so fast that they can cover a lot of ground together.
aahh Drem On Dream ON.
I guess Robinho is crossing his fingers and hoping that the Ibrahimovic deal falls through.
Galliani said 50% chance of signing Ibrahimovic. And it seems like it's close to 100% certain that we're getting either him or Robinho. That can't be too bad. :)
robinho will go to barca if ibra leaves..win-win situation for him
Arildonardo
26-08-2010, 08:03
Anyway, even if Ibra comes, is there any information about the possible deal for Robinho ? Because if it's a loan deal, well, let's go for both players !!
Loan does not equal free... I would be really surprised if we got both. We'd have to sell both Borriello and Huntelaar and especially Huntelaar seems hard to sell.
Ronaldinho, Borriello, Huntelaar, Inzaghi, Pato, Oduamadi, Ibrahimovic, Robinho. I don't think so... :)
Arildonardo
26-08-2010, 08:04
robinho will go to barca if ibra leaves..win-win situation for him
Sure. Any of the two clubs would be a good move for him.
kastriot
26-08-2010, 08:06
Why do you say that ?
Both are strikers (Robinho isn't a winger !!), two different kinds of strikers, but two kinds who would be very helpful for our team. So that just means the club really decided to buy a new striker, and they maybe decided that during this summer, seeing how we struggle to score without Pato, which means there is a plan !!
Anyway, even if Ibra comes, is there any information about the possible deal for Robinho ? Because if it's a loan deal, well, let's go for both players !!
Both Pippo and Henry were strikers but very different ones, Robinho at best can be called Forward. He operates outside -in (in the box) Ibra will be 99% time in the Box and most probably with the back to the goal.
I can go on and explain but I know u understand the difference btw those too. U just chose to see it black and white, We want a striker and both of them are strikers.which is not entirely true tactical wise.
There's new details from the meeting held between Galliani and Rosell. According to the latest reports, it seems that Milan have offered to Barcelona, two types of payment and from this base should start negotiation tomorrow
let me dream a little bit.
---------------Amelia-------------------
Papa------Nesta-----T.Silva----Anotnini
------------Prince---Flamini-------------
----Pato--------Robniho-------Dinho--
-----------------Ibra-------------------
This team has pace, aggressiveness, technique, tactical awareness, creativity, finishing. In theory it should be a little to unbalanced but Pirnce and Flamini are so fast that they can cover a lot of ground together.
aahh Drem On Dream ON.
way too unbalanced, also robinho cant play there with a lot success imo
anyway guys stop thinking theres such a possibility,even if its a loan deal,2 days we could not even loan one player due to his wages,and we're thinking of these..
fingers crossed we take one of them.
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 08:08
Surprise that no players are involve from Milan. After all, Barcelona needs some reserve players.
Arildonardo
26-08-2010, 08:10
Surprise that no players are involve from Milan. After all, Barcelona needs some reserve players.
I doubt either Borriello or Huntelaar wants to be considered reserve players. How about Kaladze, Jankulovski and Oddo? :grinser:
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 08:12
I was referring Seedorf.
i think we should put both huntelaar and boriello on the market and accept the deal for whichever one will sell for a higher price.
Things are changing every minute.
It looks like now we have an agreement with robinho but it is ONLY an alternative to Ibra.
Regarding Ibra, our last offer is 30 mil+ Hunter. We have green light to discuss wages with Ibra who is willing to take a 2 mil pay cut. And yeah, there will be no loan deal, and Borri isn't for sale, says Fester.
Sources:
http://football-italia.net/aug26q.html
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2010/08/26/2088710/milan-ibrahimovic-latest-galliani-confirms-permanent-deal-is
BREAKING NEWS: Huntelaar accepts Schalke 04
Filipéz 182
26-08-2010, 08:21
BREAKING NEWS: Huntelaar accepts Schalke 04
I wanted to post this :D you are fast!
But its a logic next step, we would have too many strikers with zlatan or robinho arriving.
it seems that the hunter is convinced to move to Gelsenkirchen
BREAKING NEWS: Huntelaar accepts Schalke 04
where did you see that, and how much did schalke offer for him?
EDIT: i found it
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 08:25
So Schalke got Raul and Hunter.
Both Pippo and Henry were strikers but very different ones, Robinho at best can be called Forward. He operates outside -in (in the box) Ibra will be 99% time in the Box and most probably with the back to the goal.
I can go on and explain but I know u understand the difference btw those too. U just chose to see it black and white, We want a striker and both of them are strikers.which is not entirely true tactical wise.
What I mean by "both strikers and both needed even if different" is that by taking Ibrahimovic, we don't have a sub for Pato, but Ibrahimovic already proved he can play as a lone striker, so the sub for Pato is no more needed (Ibra and Pato together, one of them only with one of our other strikers, or one of them only). By taking Robinho, you have a new second striker, so Pato can play as a main striker, even if both could move a lot and so be both second strikers on the pitch. Both could play with any of the other strikers of our roster.
So both are "strikers" and bring something, it's what I meant.
So I think there is a plan, no matter whose of them arrives.
15mil!
we got him for 14 if i m not wrong,he did his worst season and we sell him for 15 a year older!
good old fester..
About Huntelaar, so the guy wanted to stay, which blocked our mercato, because we wanted to do the things the wrong way. Without waiting for him to go, they started the negotiations for Ibra, sending a message to the player that his choice doesn't matter anymore, he can stay, but will probably not play. Result: Huntelaar accepts an offer.
The next few days could be really, really, really interesting and is it me, or Milan is back in the centre of the mercato, for real this time ?
where did you see that, and how much did schalke offer for him?
EDIT: i found it
the source is tuttomercatoweb
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idnet=bWlsYW5uZXdzLml0LTMyODMz
i am just praying to see...
Official milan sign robinho, still undergoin negotiation with Barca for Ibra
Kaka1899
26-08-2010, 08:39
i am just praying to see...
Official milan sign robinho, still undergoin negotiation with Barca for Ibra
i echo your sentiments :D
i echo your sentiments :D
same here :)
About Huntelaar, so the guy wanted to stay, which blocked our mercato, because we wanted to do the things the wrong way. Without waiting for him to go, they started the negotiations for Ibra, sending a message to the player that his choice doesn't matter anymore, he can stay, but will probably not play. Result: Huntelaar accepts an offer.
The next few days could be really, really, really interesting and is it me, or Milan is back in the centre of the mercato, for real this time ?
i respect huntelaar for this. as any human being should, he wanted to stay and prove his worth, however when he noticed he wouldnt be given a chance he moved................if only some other player on our roster would do the same.
same here :)
I forth this sentiment, though I must admit that I prefer having Robinho here first, and Ibra only if Hunter leaves.
I forth this sentiment, though I must admit that I prefer having Robinho here first, and Ibra only if Hunter leaves.
well everything indicates that the dutchman is leaving
This s crazy. Both of them? It would be perfect....
I don't know, I am afraid cold shower will soon come...
" We tried...bla bla bla...champions...bla bla..balance sheet...bla bla...."
it's been a long time since we rocked n rolled, right?
this afternoon is a pure orgasm.
too bad i have to leave for work.:beer:
According to Sky, Rosell told Galliani to call him in case of an agreement reached with Ibrahimovic. The president is ready to return from Ibiza to Barcelona at any time
one goes one comes!theres no other way people!
thats why we should be happy with hunter's departure..
at this point i am willing to sacrifice almost anyone to get this deal done, including pirlo......................i know ikno he is the heart of milan midfield......blah blah blah..............i dont care i would sacrifice him.
Arildonardo
26-08-2010, 08:49
According to Sky, Rosell told Galliani to call him in case of an agreement reached with Ibrahimovic. The president is ready to return from Ibiza to Barcelona at any time
Ibiza? Isn't that a party island for 18 year olds? Maybe he's just like good old Berlusconi? :smileani:
it's been a long time since we rocked n rolled, right?
this afternoon is a pure orgasm.
too bad i have to leave for work.:beer:
hopefully when u come from work u can pop a bear and truely enjoy this day.
hopefully when u come from work u can pop a bear and truely enjoy this day.
If Fester does the trick, then my dear friend, i most certainly will.
just for the fun of it, who here still wants fabiano?
it's been a long time since we rocked n rolled, right?
this afternoon is a pure orgasm.
too bad i have to leave for work.:beer:
I spent my whole day at work browsing football sites. I neglected my work so much, my boss is gonna kick my ass on monday. :guw:
Arildonardo
26-08-2010, 08:54
just for the fun of it, who here still wants fabiano?
Now you're just being evil. Haha! :dcool:
Now you're just being evil. Haha! :dcool:
i prefer Jose Mari...
Milan-Ibra video from Sky
http://video.sky.it/videoportale/index.shtml?videoID=595429178001
just for the fun of it, who here still wants fabiano?
thats my fav post today!
i'm really curious about the fee we are willing to pay,i mean 2 years now we're fed up with all the "books" staff,and now we'll find the money for the transfer and for ibra's wages!!(hunter's 15 mil+4,5/year wages are nth compared to what needed for ibra)..so then again i think of kaka's transfer(60mil+9mil/year contact if im not wrong)..
EDIT: of course hunter's money are pretty close to what we need for binho,18mil was besiktas offer that was accepted..so maybe thats more realistic..
i still havent seen the official confirmation for Montelongo
It was concluded the meeting between Galliani, Raiola and Ibrahimovic in the players home
ACMILAN1983
26-08-2010, 08:58
Pleasing to hear we're likely to get at least one of Ibra or Robinho, couldn't really ask for more than that.
The only problem is this last deal is likely to take the rest of the mercato, meaning no new desired fullback.
kastriot
26-08-2010, 09:01
HAhaha not trying to be pessimistic but we can end up Without Robinho and Ibra...minus Huntelar :D
Milan-Ibra video from Sky
http://video.sky.it/videoportale/index.shtml?videoID=595429178001
i watched the vid, but understood nothing, as i speak no italian.
the only italian words i kno is Mercato, and Rossoneri, and Forza, Ferrari and Lamborghini and Maserati. lol
just for the fun of it, who here still wants fabiano?
Who ? :D
Wow, I just imagined a perfect scenario, a dream in other words: we sell Hunter, we get Ibra, Robinho comes on loan with an option to buy him, we then sell Borriello to Madrid and with the money, we get VdV (his price is around 15M) ... Please someone wake me up !!
i watched the vid, but understood nothing, as i speak no italian.
the only italian words i kno is Mercato, and Rossoneri, and Forza, Ferrari and Lamborghini and Maserati. lol
haha good one..
then fester may bring a true champion..
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 09:06
I am never too concern about Fullbacks..
1. Not all teams got great FBs as there are very few at this moment.
2. I know Milan lost some games due to bad FBs but Milan lost more games due to lack of scoring.
I said it a while ago that, a great striker is what separate a good team and a great team, or an average team to a good team. ibra wearing theRe'd And Black will single handedly turn Milan into a borderline great team, while I cant say the same if Macion or Alves or Lahm joins Milan.
Beside, With Ibra, Pato, Dinho and Pirlo, Milan does not need FBs to attack, as those 4 can create enough damage already.
Arildonardo
26-08-2010, 09:08
Who ? :D
Wow, I just imagined a perfect scenario, a dream in other words: we sell Hunter, we get Ibra, Robinho comes on loan with an option to buy him, we then sell Borriello to Madrid and with the money, we get VdV (his price is around 15M) ... Please someone wake me up !!
Throw Sergio Ramos as right back into this as well... Could be useful. :ilol:
if we get robinho aand play him on the right, then we do not really need a right fullback, just get a defender to play there, where they dont really need to go forward, because robinho is really good and can definately hold his own.
Filipéz 182
26-08-2010, 09:11
Diego to Wolfsburg Official!
my only problem with all this is, we will be stuck with robinho, zlatan, pato and boateng and maybe luca who can play at a quick paste with a 1-2 pass, and then we are going to have the rest of the team who always slow down every play.........or maybe that is a good thing?
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 09:13
Diego to Wolfs, will Dzeko goes Juve?
Filipéz 182
26-08-2010, 09:14
16:09 - Galliani non andrà ad Ibiza. Il dirigente rossonero vuole chiudere la trattativa entro domani sera per potersi presentare domenica sera, contro il Lecce, con Ibrahimovic già in maglia milanista.
16:07 - I media barcellonisti affermano che la base economica sulla quale si è trattato è di 30 milioni di euro, pagabili in 3 tranche da parte dei rossoneri.
someone understands this?
I think we got him :D
if we get robinho aand play him on the right, then we do not really need a right fullback, just get a defender to play there, where they dont really need to go forward, because robinho is really good and can definately hold his own.
I agree. But then our baby Ducky will have to be thrown either up front or into an advanced Midfielder position.
-----------Ibra
Ronnie---------------Binho
-----------Duck
---Flams----------Pirlo
or the other way around
-----------Duck
Ronnie-----Ibra-------Binho
------Flams-----Pirlo
does anyone seriously think we'd play like that?
Kaka1899
26-08-2010, 09:15
16:09 - Galliani non andrà ad Ibiza. Il dirigente rossonero vuole chiudere la trattativa entro domani sera per potersi presentare domenica sera, contro il Lecce, con Ibrahimovic già in maglia milanista.
16:07 - I media barcellonisti affermano che la base economica sulla quale si è trattato è di 30 milioni di euro, pagabili in 3 tranche da parte dei rossoneri.
someone understands this?
I think we got him :D
16:09 - Galliani will not go to Ibiza. The Rossoneri manager wants to close the deal by tomorrow evening in order to present Sunday night against Lecce with Ibrahimovic already in Milan jersey.
16:07 - The media claim that Barcelona economic basis on which it was 30 million, payable in three payments by the Rossoneri.
it seems we agreed a fee of 30 mi fo zlatan
can anyone confirm this?
16:09 - Galliani will not go to Ibiza. The Rossoneri manager wants to close the deal by tomorrow evening in order to present Sunday night against Lecce with Ibrahimovic already in Milan jersey.
16:07 - The media claim that Barcelona economic basis on which it was 30 million, payable in three payments by the Rossoneri.
Wait a sec....... we're paying 30 Mil in 3 installments?
Thats like 10 Mil each..........
With the Sponsorship from Emirates of 20M plus the amount we get off a Hunter sale.......... We could potentially buy out Binho as well!
Spain media claim that the economic basis on which the deal is likely to come through is 30 million payable in three installments by Rossoneri
Filipéz 182
26-08-2010, 09:20
30m is cheap, No? Offcourse it is a lot, but Barca bought him for 70m or something like that!
Kaka1899
26-08-2010, 09:21
30m is cheap, No? Offcourse it is a lot, but Barca bought him for 70m or something like that!
70million, are you including Eto'o as well in that figure?
They paid 40 + etoo for Ibra
Galliani will not go to Ibiza. He wants to close the deal by tomorrow evening in order to by present at Sunday night against Lecce with Ibrahimovic already in Milan shirt
Filipéz 182
26-08-2010, 09:24
70million, are you including Eto'o as well in that figure?
yes! ;;;;;;
30m is cheap, No? Offcourse it is a lot, but Barca bought him for 70m or something like that!
i we were to pay in installments per year then it will be even cheaper than 30 mil, because if you factor in inflation, though it wont be a huge difference, but the overall value of the dea would be worth less than 30mil.
As reported by Sky Sport 24, Huntelaar talked on phone with Felix Magath, coach of Schalke 04. The 'Hunter' concluded with: "I'll think"
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 09:28
Key thing is Milan win and become a better team next season with Ibra, if not, then even if Ibra is free, ghats still a bad deal.
Kaka1899
26-08-2010, 09:29
anybody else heard this? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWGYjZOzte4
Maltese Charlie
26-08-2010, 09:31
Wait a sec....... we're paying 30 Mil in 3 installments?
Thats like 10 Mil each..........
With the Sponsorship from Emirates of 20M plus the amount we get off a Hunter sale.......... We could potentially buy out Binho as well!
Are you forgeting his salary?
His contract was 12 million net, which means 24 million gross for Milan.
It depends on Abramovich on how much is ready to cut off from his salary.
Kaka1899
26-08-2010, 09:32
Are you forgeting his salary?
His contract was 12 million net, which means 24 million gross for Milan.
It depends on Abramovich on how much is ready to cut off from his salary.
:wow: am i missing something?
Adriano Galliani after the summit of the afternoon: "The negotiations are continuing.
I will see Ibrahimovic again in the evening after the training, which begins at 19
anybody else heard this? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWGYjZOzte4
this is a hit record
anybody else heard this? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWGYjZOzte4
im sure not even diego maradona has his own song.........
Filipéz 182
26-08-2010, 09:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=833jWCh4mtM
Kaka1899
26-08-2010, 09:38
this is a hit record
it got to number 1 in Sweden believe it or not :D
i still havent seen the official confirmation for Montelongo
Lord have mercy! Come on Payne, don't let's ask for moon; we're dealing with STARS now ;)
Maltese Charlie
26-08-2010, 09:45
:wow: am i missing something?
All I want to say is if Milan will get Ibramovich for 30 million even if payable on 3 years, the whole operation costs much more.
Let say the player agrees on 8 million a year for 4 years, it means an investment of 94 million.
Kaka1899
26-08-2010, 09:47
All I want to say is if Milan will get Ibramovich for 30 million even if payable on 3 years, the whole operation costs much more.
Let say the player agrees on 8 million a year for 4 years, it means an investment of 94 million.
i was referring more to Abramovic in your post! :D
All I want to say is if Milan will get Ibramovich for 30 million even if payable on 3 years, the whole operation costs much more.
Let say the player agrees on 8 million a year for 4 years, it means an investment of 94 million.
oh now i know why i was confused, its IBRAHIMovic not Abramovic (thats chelsea owner) nor Ibramovich
Jay Crisp
26-08-2010, 09:57
my only problem with all this is, we will be stuck with robinho, zlatan, pato
I see what you were saying but the way it was on the screen stuck with Ibra Pato Robinho...love it how bad buddy.
i we were to pay in installments per year then it will be even cheaper than 30 mil, because if you factor in inflation, though it wont be a huge difference, but the overall value of the dea would be worth less than 30mil.
I remember reading that when Barcelona buys a player, they do installments on long term exclusively. In this article, they said that the club had to be very well organized to be able to do it because it is hard to run a club only this way (the debt being cut in several parts, but at the end, if they don't sell, they are dead). It was also reported that when they sell, they often tend to ask for a quick payment.
So I think they desperately need money to accept a 30M fee for Ibrahimovic, and especially on 3 years (that probably means they must sell, no matter how).
Filipéz 182
26-08-2010, 10:00
I'm getting excited about this deal :)
Who's with me? I'd like to finally win scudetto again and with Ibrahimovic we have the chance to do so! He is a HUGE UPGRADE to our team, he gives us much more than huntelaar.
ZvonimirBoban
26-08-2010, 10:25
I'm with you. But let's not get too high, I already prepare for the worst (no Robinho, no Ibra, AND no Hunter) so that I may be very very happy if one of Ibra/Robinho finally arrives.
many posts today, mercato is HOT :D
17:16 - Secondo indiscrezioni raccolte dalla redazione di MilanNews.it, Zlatan Ibrahimovic avrebbe accettato di decurtarsi l'ingaggio di circa il 20-25%. Intanto, fervono i preparativi a Milanello in quanto lo svedese sarebbe atteso per la giornata di sabato presso il centro sportivo di Carnago.
they say ibra accepted a cut of 20-25 %,and that he may come on saturday at milanelo..
(if im not wrong)
YES! FASTER THAN VULLI!!
Filipéz 182
26-08-2010, 10:58
some rumours say the deal is 30m + huntelaar... now that is expensive!
Elmago99
26-08-2010, 10:59
I can't believe we're so excited to Ibrahimovic to come..he's a Juventino and Interista....
However, he's also easily Top 3-4 Best strikers in the world, which is what we've been waiting for for so longggg.... it also says ROBINHO is a backup and has agreed terms...
MAYBE Man City will allow RObinho to come ON LOAN????????
Best Strikers in World
1. Drogba
2. Villa
3. Ibra
4. Rooney
5. Dzeko
6. Torres
Ibra did NOT play bad last season.. he was injured..and when he played he played well.. and he won El Clasico...
I can't believe we're so excited to Ibrahimovic to come..he's a Juventino and Interista....
However, he's also easily Top 3-4 Best strikers in the world, which is what we've been waiting for for so longggg.... it also says ROBINHO is a backup and has agreed terms...
MAYBE Man City will allow RObinho to come ON LOAN????????
Best Strikers in World
1. Drogba
2. Villa
3. Ibra
4. Rooney
5. Dzeko
6. Torres
Ibra did NOT play bad last season.. he was injured..and when he played he played well.. and he won El Clasico...
You're an idiot. Who gives a **** if he played for Juve or Inter? How about Pippo, Pirlo and Seedorf?
Ibra will benefit the team immensely and in some cases will carry us through difficult moments in ways nobody else can.
kastriot
26-08-2010, 11:31
Milan Real In Group G In The Cl Draw....we Have To Reinforce...
Elmago99
26-08-2010, 11:37
You're an idiot. Who gives a **** if he played for Juve or Inter? How about Pippo, Pirlo and Seedorf?
Ibra will benefit the team immensely and in some cases will carry us through difficult moments in ways nobody else can.
You're an Idiot. Dzeko is a MILANISTA, Young, Strong, and positive for the future. He was the Buy, NOT IBRA...
Having said that, considering how INCOMPETENT Milan's Management is, I'll take Ibra with Open Arms.. We were put putting around with Luis Fabiano, Luis Suarez, and other idiots all summer, saying no one big will arrive unless big is sold.. then Kaladze/Janku drama, so having seen all this nonsense,, I'm obviously happy Ibra is coming. As a player, I've always loved him, EVEN when he played for Inter. I love his style, his characteristics as a striker and I know he can do things single handedly
hitmannq8
26-08-2010, 11:38
ac milan with real madrid danggggg again kaka returns to san siro with mourinho this time
SomeDevil
26-08-2010, 11:46
madrid will be the downfall of mourinho !
like rafa will be the downfall of inter
ac milan with real madrid danggggg again kaka returns to san siro with mourinho this time
And Ajax.
Surely more tickets will be sold.
Would be nicer if we talked about CL in its own thread :) http://www.milanmania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26685
Tassotti
26-08-2010, 11:49
You're an Idiot. Dzeko is a MILANISTA, Young, Strong, and positive for the future. He was the Buy, NOT IBRA...
Edin Dzeko: I Want To Play For Juventus!
True Milanista...
Actually that only says how bad he wants to go away from Wolfsburg. He loves Milan as much as we all here. And that information is not from some website.
hitmannq8
26-08-2010, 12:02
Tassotti, you are WRONG
Don't just read the headlines but look for what the player has actually said. He did not say that, thats how the press interpreted it. Besides they already have Krasic they cannot sign him.
Maltese Charlie
26-08-2010, 12:07
How can it be that this youngster is not welcomed here? :grinser:
UFFICIALE: Carmona è del Milan
26.08.2010 17:36 di Pietro Mazzara articolo letto 5646 volte
© In attesa di Zlatan Ibrahimovic, il Milan perfeziona l'ingaggio dal Barcellona del promettente esterno sinistro Adria Carmona Perez (18). La società di via Turati ha da poco depositato il contratto del baby catalano in Lega Calcio, che arriva a Milano a titolo definitivo.
And Ajax.
Milan are coming to my neighborhood!
I am going for tickets. Now.
HO-YOUNG
26-08-2010, 12:09
OK!!! Who have we signed this summer??? Are we really a dominant team? or are we going to the market to pick up left over scraps for cheap? are we that little mongrel dog that have to wait until the top dogs finish feeding before we can get the scraps?
What have our beloved Milan come to?
if Ibra is the "scraps", i'll have scraps every day :)
I want the other "scrap" by the name of Robinho, please!
How can it be that this youngster is not welcomed here? :grinser:
UFFICIALE: Carmona è del Milan
26.08.2010 17:36 di Pietro Mazzara articolo letto 5646 volte
© In attesa di Zlatan Ibrahimovic, il Milan perfeziona l'ingaggio dal Barcellona del promettente esterno sinistro Adria Carmona Perez (18). La società di via Turati ha da poco depositato il contratto del baby catalano in Lega Calcio, che arriva a Milano a titolo definitivo.
an 18 yr-old player from barca school is welcome any day....more so that he was free too :guw:
Filipéz 182
26-08-2010, 12:17
How can it be that this youngster is not welcomed here? :grinser:
UFFICIALE: Carmona è del Milan
26.08.2010 17:36 di Pietro Mazzara articolo letto 5646 volte
© In attesa di Zlatan Ibrahimovic, il Milan perfeziona l'ingaggio dal Barcellona del promettente esterno sinistro Adria Carmona Perez (18). La società di via Turati ha da poco depositato il contratto del baby catalano in Lega Calcio, che arriva a Milano a titolo definitivo.
Barcelona are facing a major battle to keep top prospect Adria Carmona Perez away from Premiership clubs.
Carmona is regarded as the jewel in Barca's youth system and is still playing on amateur forms.
Arsenal, Bayern Munich and Manchester City have all been following the 17 year-old for the last 12 months, while Tottenham have made a major move for the youngster.
devoted_dm
26-08-2010, 12:20
According to milannews.it, Ibra has asked for 24 hours to evaluate the offer from Milan. Not necessarily a good sign...
I want the other "scrap" by the name of Robinho, please!
i'll pass....would go for Van der Vart instead because:
1-if Ibra comes, attacking midfielder will be more of a priority than attack
2-he will be cheaper
3-i just can't imagine what party-boy robinho's influence on party-boy dinho will be....plzzzzzzzz do not unite these 2 in one city :P
Kaka1899
26-08-2010, 12:22
According to milannews.it, Ibra has asked for 24 hours to evaluate the offer from Milan. Not necessarily a good sign...
on the other hand Robinho? or maybe Ibra wants 24hours so he can get on those cheap flight websites to sort out some tickets to malpensa due to him taking a paycut :D
Filipéz 182
26-08-2010, 12:33
Maybe he wants to go to the dentist first :)
Maltese Charlie
26-08-2010, 12:33
Quaranta milioni di euro, dilazionati in tre anni, al Barcellona; quadriennale da circa 8 milioni di euro a Zlatan Ibrahimovic. Queste le fondamenta su cui sta lavorando Adriano Galliani per acquistare il centravanti svedese. Un'operazione onerosa e ancora molto complicata, perché passa per le cessioni di Huntelaar (14 milioni al Milan, c'è lo Schalke 04) e fors'anche di Flamini, che porterebbe alla società una forte plusvalenza.
Tgcom reports this about Ibrahimovic:
40 million euros to be paid in three years for Barcellona.
A 4 year contract around 8 million yearly for Zlatan.
On these difficult and complicated foundations Galiani is working to buy the Swedish, which have to include the sale of Huntelaar to Schalke for 14 millions and may be even Flamini.
MiamiMilanista
26-08-2010, 12:34
Has everyone forgotten what a goal-scoring menace Ibra was when he played for Inter and Juventus???
Everyone can talk about Dzeko and Robinho, but someone who has proven himself in Serie A already is my top pick. He's still 28 and has a lot of time left in the tank.
This would be a dream signing for Milan at this point...
BTW, how did Boateng play yesterday? I didnt have a chance to watch the match.
Revolver
26-08-2010, 12:34
I can't believe we're so excited to Ibrahimovic to come..he's a Juventino and Interista....
However, he's also easily Top 3-4 Best strikers in the world, which is what we've been waiting for for so longggg.... it also says ROBINHO is a backup and has agreed terms...
MAYBE Man City will allow RObinho to come ON LOAN????????
Best Strikers in World
1. Drogba
2. Villa
3. Ibra
4. Rooney
5. Dzeko
6. Torres
Ibra did NOT play bad last season.. he was injured..and when he played he played well.. and he won El Clasico...
You can't compare players like that. Drogba and Torres are definitively best two strikers in the world in past 3-4 years as PROVED in CL. Villa did nothing in big games. Dzeko did something more than him.
Ibrahimovic and Rooney are two different type of players (second strikers not center forwards) who are complete players, capable to score regularly on their own and also to create. Ibrahimovic is pushed to play CF because of his size and strength, but his best position is behind CF, like he played at Inter little behind Cruz or Adriano.
For transfers, now Galliani is doing a great job (finally!), he's bringing one of the best world players for 30 M. They even found a substitute (Robinho) if Ibra deal fails.
I think if any of two deals goes through, EVERY member here will have to show respect for Don Silvio.
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 12:37
40mil for Ibra makes sense for Barcelona.
With the 14mil from Hunter's sale, Milan only spent 26mil in three years, wages not included. Fair deal.
Tassotti
26-08-2010, 12:37
Mediaset says we could sell Flamini to cover expenses for Ibrahimovic
That would be terrible, Flamini is maybe even our best midfielder
According to milannews.it, Ibra has asked for 24 hours to evaluate the offer from Milan. Not necessarily a good sign...
Not necessarily a bad sign either. I certainly wouldn't expect him to walk in and just take a pay cut without giving the matter some thought first. It would have been much easier to say a quick no than a quick yes.
hitmannq8
26-08-2010, 12:38
Mediaset report Milan want to sell Hunter and Flamini before signing Ibra.
Flamini is our best midfielder, I am optimistic that this was just a mistake by the website.
It would be awesome to sign both Robinho and Ibra indeed but highly unlikely. Beggars cannot be choosers. Reports say Milan have an agreement with City for Robinho and with the player himself, Galliani has confirmed that Robinho is the alternative too. It would just be great if we sign both of them. What if Ronaldinho gets injured for a month, what do we do then? We still don't have a valid offensive midfielder as a backup (please dont say Seedorf).
We are going to play with 3 upfront, if we get Ibra it will be Dinho, Ibra, Pato... their subs will be Borriello, Inzaghi, Oduamadi (Hunter probably will be sold). We do really need one more sub from the bench that can add something different, has a moment of magic. With Robinho we can have that player and can regularly rest Pato (injury prone), Ibra and Dinho who are 29 and 30.
Am I making sense or am I just asking for too much?
Maybe he wants to go to the dentist first :)
:ilol:
Thanx to the management we forever have a source of jokes, this teeth story is kind of like the Paolo Inzaghi thing here on MM, never gets old :)
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 12:41
You can't compare players like that. Drogba and Torres are definitively best two strikers in the world in past 3-4 years as PROVED in CL. Villa did nothing in big games. Dzeko did something more than him.
Ibrahimovic and Rooney are two different type of players (second strikers not center forwards) who are complete players, capable to score regularly on their own and also to create. Ibrahimovic is pushed to play CF because of his size and strength, but his best position is behind CF, like he played at Inter little behind Cruz or Adriano.
For transfers, now Galliani is doing a great job (finally!), he's bringing one of the best world players for 30 M. They even found a substitute (Robinho) if Ibra deal fails.
I think if any of two deals goes through, EVERY member here will have to show respect for Don Silvio.
Sorry, still no respect toward Silvio, as he had been treating us(Milan fans) like crap over the past few years. Signing of Ibra or Robinho should happens once per year or once every two years, not once in 5, if Milan is a big club as he claims it is.
Pls don't start with any financial stuff, as if that is the case, both Ibra or/and Robinho should not be targets for Milan.
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 12:44
Mediaset report Milan want to sell Hunter and Flamini before signing Ibra.
Flamini is our best midfielder, I am optimistic that this was just a mistake by the website.
It would be awesome to sign both Robinho and Ibra indeed but highly unlikely. Beggars cannot be choosers. Reports say Milan have an agreement with City for Robinho and with the player himself, Galliani has confirmed that Robinho is the alternative too. It would just be great if we sign both of them. What if Ronaldinho gets injured for a month, what do we do then? We still don't have a valid offensive midfielder as a backup (please dont say Seedorf).
We are going to play with 3 upfront, if we get Ibra it will be Dinho, Ibra, Pato... their subs will be Borriello, Inzaghi, Oduamadi (Hunter probably will be sold). We do really need one more sub from the bench that can add something different, has a moment of magic. With Robinho we can have that player and can regularly rest Pato (injury prone), Ibra and Dinho who are 29 and 30.
Am I making sense or am I just asking for too much?
You cannot have one of Dinho, Pato, Robinho and Ibra on the bench. Yes, there will be injury but what if they are all fit and ready to go, who would you bench.
I think having one of Ibra and Robinho are good enough, with Borri, Pippo, Verdi and even Seedorf off the bench.
hitmannq8
26-08-2010, 12:47
Every big team has a great player on the bench, we had Crespo, Gila, Sheva, Inzaghi in recent years.
Can any Spanish speaker translate this? It seems Milan has a "new Messi". I dont know if we just signed him or we had him.
http://www.deportesaqui.com/causa-revuelo-en-italia-la-llegada-de-ontiveros/
I understand that we just signed a new Argentinean that's not 16 yet and he is labeled as a new Messi.
Brasileiro
26-08-2010, 12:49
I'm not so exited like you guys about this "we will have our star" player this mercato...
Sure, I'm not a fan of Ibra, but I can't deny he fits Serie A style very well. But my problem is that imo, isn't on attack we are losing games. Sure we need a better players alongside Pato, but if it was up to me, I would to spend this Ibra money in 2 promising midfielders.
Not pretending my opinion is right, but I'm more comfortable with a Pato/Borrielo pair in the offense, supported by a talented and capable of running(with the likes Chelseas, Barça's) midfield, than a Pato/Ibra(years away better attack) supported by our actual midfield.
Yesterday game let me even more worried about our mid. We couldn't create nothing against Barça reserves. Of course with a Pato/Ibra pair we would have created a little more, but imo the difference in quality and pace of our mid was enormous. We will not see the color of the ball against the bigs in Europe... and against SEVERAL Serie A teams.
For Berlusconi a Ibra purchase is a lot better, because like we are seeing here, to bring a star generate the type of fuss he needs. But like with Ronaldinho in the near past, it will not give the balance we(and any team) need to win Serie A. Not with our actual midfield. At least in my opinion...
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 12:50
I would only give you Crespo mate.
Gila was not great in Milan.
Sheva and Pippo were often taking turn injured back in the early noughties. While they just can't be starter for MIlan over the past 2-3 yrs due to not good enough.
_MaJi_tz
26-08-2010, 12:51
LIVE : Ibra is not being trained with Barca tonight ...
Gabriel489
26-08-2010, 12:56
I'm not so exited like you guys about this "we will have our star" player this mercato...
Sure, I'm not a fan of Ibra, but I can't deny he fits Serie A style very well. But my problem is that imo, isn't on attack we are losing games. Sure we need a better players alongside Pato, but if it was up to me, I would to spend this Ibra money in 2 promising midfielders.
Not pretending my opinion is right, but I'm more comfortable with a Pato/Borrielo pair in the offense, supported by a talented and capable of running(with the likes Chelseas, Barça's) midfield, than a Pato/Ibra(years away better attack) supported by our actual midfield.
Yesterday game let me even more worried about our mid. We couldn't create nothing against Barça reserves. Of course with a Pato/Ibra pair we would have created a little more, but imo the difference in quality and pace of our mid was enormous. We will not see the color of the ball against the bigs in Europe... and against SEVERAL Serie A teams.
For Berlusconi a Ibra purchase is a lot better, because like we are seeing here, to bring a star generate the type of fuss he needs. But like with Ronaldinho in the near past, it will not give the balance we(and any team) need to win Serie A. Not with our actual midfield. At least in my opinion...
Agree with you about the midfield.
But as long as guys like Flamini, Boateng, and Abate are playing ahead of the likes of Ambro, Gattuso and Seedorf. The mid is not as bad.
Although I did not see the game against Barcelona, but I thought Iniesta, Villa, Ibra, Pugul, Abidal, and Adraino all started for them. Thats still a pretty strong team.
I'm not so exited like you guys about this "we will have our star" player this mercato...
Sure, I'm not a fan of Ibra, but I can't deny he fits Serie A style very well. But my problem is that imo, isn't on attack we are losing games. Sure we need a better players alongside Pato, but if it was up to me, I would to spend this Ibra money in 2 promising midfielders.
Not pretending my opinion is right, but I'm more comfortable with a Pato/Borrielo pair in the offense, supported by a talented and capable of running(with the likes Chelseas, Barça's) midfield, than a Pato/Ibra(years away better attack) supported by our actual midfield.
Yesterday game let me even more worried about our mid. We couldn't create nothing against Barça reserves. Of course with a Pato/Ibra pair we would have created a little more, but imo the difference in quality and pace of our mid was enormous. We will not see the color of the ball against the bigs in Europe... and against SEVERAL Serie A teams.
For Berlusconi a Ibra purchase is a lot better, because like we are seeing here, to bring a star generate the type of fuss he needs. But like with Ronaldinho in the near past, it will not give the balance we(and any team) need to win Serie A. Not with our actual midfield. At least in my opinion...
I agree 100% about midfield. Aldough I DO support Ibra deal as I simply have to be fair and say yes to one of the best CF's in the world that will balance the team for sure ( that is what I expect ).
Alongside Boateng, a player like VdV could do wonders in midfield trio, as our current midfield cannot play vs big teams in CL due to total lack of power. Playing Pirlo-Flamini-Boateng will mean more power but less "mind" and class etc.
Next year priority no.1 is class midfielder, young-old, I dont care :)
Again I will say that the problem is 4-3-3 which is unbalanced and our best solution next season is to sell Dinho and create compact midfield with Ibra-Pato attack ( in my oppinion absolutely perfect mix ).
But that is next year... This year I expect more COMPACT Milan due to Allegri that is tactically classic italian coach defence-wise.
We have what we have now. If a player like Bochetti can arrive, great. If not, we'll have to give our all and try to win serie a as in CL I do not count on success yet.
Our game will change. It will be a game of Ibra and Dinho holding up balls(passes! :) ) from Pirlo, Seedorf, Thiago... To PAto, Boateng, Antonini... For serie a its fine, as long as defence stays solid.
One mroe thing. I wish for Bochetti coz Boateng play well as a LM, and Bochetti as defensive player is more suited there then Anto. Who would give more balance on the right.
We'll see. But Ibra, as far as Im concerned, is a great player that will help us a lot in serie a. Midfield is slow, yes, and Silvio bought him coz of the smoke as you say my friend. But that is our Milan!
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