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Milano84
10-06-2010, 11:16
Im convinced he just wanted to win the champions league with a team of 17-21 year olds , just so he could say now im the special one i can win with kids....that or he has kinky sh1t going on with boys.....either way D.I.L.I.G.A.F
Everyone wants to harp on too young to win. It's not that IMO.
I don't think it's about age for arsenal. It's lack of defense.
A team led by fabregas with Van Persie, Arshavin, Nasri, etc.... song and Diaby came on in midfield is more than good enough.
But that backline is terrible (and DONT GET ME STARTED ON GK) I'm pretty sure that midfield and attack + Chelsea backline would have a) won EPL by now and b) been a serious UCL challenger
Filipéz 182
10-06-2010, 11:40
seriously, do you think clichy, Vermaelen, Gallas and Sagna are THAT bad?
IMO its not the worst.
I think they lack a good GK and a Defensive monster in midfield, + they lack experience and they cant do it without fab and van persie.
Milano84
10-06-2010, 11:46
seriously, do you think clichy, Vermaelen, Gallas and Sagna are THAT bad?
IMO its not the worst.
I think they lack a good GK and a Defensive monster in midfield, + they lack experience and they cant do it without fab and van persie.
the way they play is. Vermaelen is really bad TBH. Probably easiest defender to expose in space. Gallas is a shell of his chelsea form.
They allow 3 or 4 to every decent team... chelsea, city, united etc.
So does anyone know anything about this Gustavo Pereira-El Gato guy? I guess we have bought him.
http://www.ilsussidiario.net/articolo.aspx?articolo=46951
Filipéz 182
10-06-2010, 13:19
the way they play is. Vermaelen is really bad TBH. Probably easiest defender to expose in space. Gallas is a shell of his chelsea form.
They allow 3 or 4 to every decent team... chelsea, city, united etc.
Vermaelen was one of the best defenders in the Premier league last season, He's even in the team of the season. + was named arsenal player of the month 3/4 times. strange to hear someone say he is really bad, youre the first one.
I've watched 90% of Arsenals games last season and IMO he did more than OK.
Filipéz 182
10-06-2010, 13:30
Giovinco will probably leave Juventus this summer. I wouldnt mind getting him. + I dont think he would be that expensive... He's a really talented player!!
Kaka1899
10-06-2010, 13:34
Vermaelen was one of the best defenders in the Premier league last season, He's even in the team of the season. + was named arsenal player of the month 3/4 times. strange to hear someone say he is really bad, youre the first one.
I've watched 90% of Arsenals games last season and IMO he did more than OK.
and scored a bucket load of goals as well, not all headers i might add if i remember he scored one 25 yard blaster along the ground into the bottom corner.
Agnielli back at Juve was the worst thing that can happen to Milan. Next week negotiations between Juve and Hernanes will go on and Hernanes to Juve is very much possible. He was monitored by Milan but only if Pirlo was sold etc. Tuttomercatoweb.com.
How come Juve and all the other big clubs have no problems selling their players they dont want anymore. Juve will now sell Grosso, Thiago, Iaquinta, Diego, Melo etc., etc. And we when once buy a player wait untill he almost dies from heart attack or his contract needs to expire. Sell them and that is it. "You are going to be sold, its over. Thank you Kaladze, Oddo, Marek." WTF do they think they are? Sitting on the bench and training at Milanello for 3-4 mln per year... I would also refuse the transfer, but it doesnt go that way!
Galliani is again talking **** how italian clubs will die if we dont get our stadiums bla, bla... Morratti with bunch of money and Juve also.
We cannot finish Allegri deal and Agnielli says how they have been working hard on mercato for months and will do so untill the end.
Anyway, this is a circus and a mockey. Shut up and sign a player and that is it. Galliani works like a spoiled rich kid. When the money is gone now we can see what kind of **** director he is and how he looses money for nothing. Go work in Madrid.
Milano84
10-06-2010, 14:04
Vermaelen was one of the best defenders in the Premier league last season, He's even in the team of the season. + was named arsenal player of the month 3/4 times. strange to hear someone say he is really bad, youre the first one.
I've watched 90% of Arsenals games last season and IMO he did more than OK.
i watch alot fo arsenal too, his defending is not good...
vermanelen started hot cause he scored some goals. I was high on him too, but repeatedly seeing hmim allow goals is his offense worth it?
Heck there's an article about how bad he is:
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/04/09/thomas-vermaelen-arsenal-positional-errors/
He really is new puyol for me
Christian
10-06-2010, 19:30
Everyone wants to harp on too young to win. It's not that IMO.
I don't think it's about age for arsenal. It's lack of defense.
A team led by fabregas with Van Persie, Arshavin, Nasri, etc.... song and Diaby came on in midfield is more than good enough.
But that backline is terrible (and DONT GET ME STARTED ON GK) I'm pretty sure that midfield and attack + Chelsea backline would have a) won EPL by now and b) been a serious UCL challenger
Think it's as much about Arsene Wenger as a tactician. He's very naive, which could be seen mostly against Barcelona, where he decided to go with a plan and a lineup expecting to dominate possession, when it clearly wasn't realistic. Sometimes he simply needs to be more cynical, and take an realistic approach instead of playing every game with the same plan. Pep Guardiola has learned this, and when he needs to he does take a more cynical approach (Away @ Real Madrid is an example) and he has much better attacking players than Wenger.
Don't necessarely think that Vermaelen is the problem though, it's hard to argue with the ZM article, it's obvious to anyone, but he's not the only one in Arsenal's defense that keeps making rookie mistakes. Just think about how good Gallas looked @ Chelsea and how mediocre he looks now. I just think they need a good organiser to straighten them out, cause it almost doesn't matter how much talent you have in defense if they aren't organised. Real Madrid's the perfect example of this making Cannavaro and Samuel look ordinary.
hitmannq8
10-06-2010, 20:12
So does anyone know anything about this Gustavo Pereira-El Gato guy? I guess we have bought him.
http://www.ilsussidiario.net/articolo.aspx?articolo=46951
check the date of that article bro :5drunk:
I think we ended up passing up on the kid.
Gabriel489
11-06-2010, 03:27
Sad for me to admit, the best news for Milan these past two years is actually JM leaving Inter and RB taking over Inter.
tim_milan
11-06-2010, 04:06
It would be nice if we could buy Otamendi. I would be eagerly watching him during the WC. But its hard to say what are Milans mercato plans. Who exactly are we looking?? A striker, a defender or a midfielder??? Guess it all surface once Allegri is officially announced as coach. And besides the WC will give all the clubs a chance to decide on who they really want.
ACMILAN1983
11-06-2010, 04:22
Some interesting news today. Moggi is convinced Milan will do something big in the market. Despite his obvious flaws, the man knows football, so if he expects Milan to do something, then I won't be surprised if we get some interesting transfers.
Cellino (Cagliari president) has admitted he's forcing Allegri to see out his contract. The reason is pride and he's apparently angry at Allegri for losing focus on Cagliari during his time there.
check the date of that article bro :5drunk:
I think we ended up passing up on the kid.
LOL, good observation, my bad :)
kastriot
11-06-2010, 04:49
Some interesting news today. Moggi is convinced Milan will do something big in the market. Despite his obvious flaws, the man knows football, so if he expects Milan to do something, then I won't be surprised if we get some interesting transfers.
Cellino (Cagliari president) has admitted he's forcing Allegri to see out his contract. The reason is pride and he's apparently angry at Allegri for losing focus on Cagliari during his time there.
Moggi is not the only fotball related person who says that we are going to make a big transfer this summer. Some of the other agent go even further saying that Milan has already agreed the transfer of Dzeko...we can only wait and see.
During all the current week, there were almost only bad rumours: this player linked with Juventus, this one with Inter, him with Real, etc ...
And today, only good rumours:
- we would have joined the race for Bonucci (http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idnotizia=26982)
- Antonelli, a LB coming from our Primavera and playing in Parma, could come back (with Paloschi staying in Parma one more year), I never rated him so high but he did a good season. Luca Antonelli could be a good backup for Luca Antonini (http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idtmw=212327).
- City still wanting Ronaldinho (http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idtmw=212339 ; yes, IMO, it's a good rumour, as if we sell him and as we don't tend to buy wingers by looking at the names of the players we're linked with, that would mean we would stop this 4-3-3, so we would use some of our players properly and would get more money than expected from the sale of Ronaldinho as MC overpay on the mercato ... the only problem is the quote of Pato saying he stays by hoping that Ronaldinho will also stay).
Let's wait the end of the WC for Italy (Bonucci), Brazil (actually, we're not linked with any NT player ?), Netherlands (what will happen with Huntelaar ?) and Argentina (Otamendi) and we will probably know if something "big" can really be expected or not ...
Oh yes, I forgot, it's not a rumour, it's pure truth: the WC starts today !! :D
:hmmm: :devs: :devf: :whie: :5nana: :r11: :beer:
Christian
11-06-2010, 06:21
Can't believe Cellino would pay Allegri wages for a year just to spite him. How ungrateful considering that Allegri's taken Cagliari from relegation battles to midtable. Also surely players like Matri and Astori wouldn't go to Cagliari in the future if they did something like this.
Can't believe Cellino would pay Allegri wages for a year just to spite him. How ungrateful considering that Allegri's taken Cagliari from relegation battles to midtable. Also surely players like Matri and Astori wouldn't go to Cagliari in the future if they did something like this.
He wouldn't and he won't ... He just tries to take some profit from this situation. Even if Cagliari and Milan say they have a great relationship, Cellino "controls" us since we decided that our next coach would be Allegri.
You read it: a mid-table team managed to find a way to control us for some weeks ... If Cellino deals well with this situation, Cagliari could be the big winner of our choice to take Allegri. Oh, and if I were Galliani, I'd say to Cellino that we give him 100% of Kaladze, Oddo, Jankulovski and our 50% of Astori if he allows Allegri to sign in Milan right now.
About the ungrateful thing, it seems Cellino thinks the bad results of Cagliari (I don't remember, they started in January, February ?) are the consequence of Allegri's behaviour ... I don't know what happened between them, but it looks like they're not very friends (if I understand well, it's because of what said Allegri several times when he was linked with all the top clubs of Serie A in medias, he never said "no", it's even the contrary, he opened the door).
Mancini was here only on loan right? We only paid for a loan and his half-season salary, and if I remember correctly, if we wanted, we could pay a fixed amount for his half ownership; which means, if we wanted to have him in whole, we then would still need to bid against Inter for the that.
That sounds like a lot of trouble to "keep" him. Wouldn't that be easy to just send him back? Sometimes I don't understand what Galliani is up to. :5horse:
ACMILAN1983
11-06-2010, 10:44
Moggi is not the only fotball related person who says that we are going to make a big transfer this summer. Some of the other agent go even further saying that Milan has already agreed the transfer of Dzeko...we can only wait and see.
True, but I tend to listen to Moggi more than many others. Latest news says Berlu has said that we sell first, and only then buy. Biggest problem is we're having trouble getting rid of Kala, Janku and Oddo.
Mancini was here only on loan right? We only paid for a loan and his half-season salary, and if I remember correctly, if we wanted, we could pay a fixed amount for his half ownership; which means, if we wanted to have him in whole, we then would still need to bid against Inter for the that.
That sounds like a lot of trouble to "keep" him. Wouldn't that be easy to just send him back? Sometimes I don't understand what Galliani is up to. :5horse:
You're on the mark there. He was got on loan and quite frankly, I have no doubt he should not be kept on a permanent basis, it would be a terrible decision (I'd rather give his position in the squad to Verdi than keep him).
Mancini was here only on loan right? We only paid for a loan and his half-season salary, and if I remember correctly, if we wanted, we could pay a fixed amount for his half ownership; which means, if we wanted to have him in whole, we then would still need to bid against Inter for the that.
That sounds like a lot of trouble to "keep" him. Wouldn't that be easy to just send him back? Sometimes I don't understand what Galliani is up to. :5horse:
No, because Inter don't want to keep him ... so they would agree for a price with us actually. The problem for Mancini is that we don't seem to be interested too ... :)
What do you people think about the fb Adriano from Sevilla? He is linked with Milan together with Fabiano. Huntelaar + money for both of them or something like that seems fine to me.
hitmannq8
11-06-2010, 13:58
Whats up with all this fetish for Fabiano? Yes Huntelaar was bad, but Fabiano isn't that much better! Keep in mind Fabiano is 30! Dzeko is the best choice, or send Pato to the middle, and bring in Krasic or Ganso.
slifersd
11-06-2010, 15:24
Whats up with all this fetish for Fabiano? Yes Huntelaar was bad, but Fabiano isn't that much better! Keep in mind Fabiano is 30! Dzeko is the best choice, or send Pato to the middle, and bring in Krasic or Ganso.
If our management has that kind of ability to make sense with their decisions, we wouldn't be AC Milan.
rosoneri_11
11-06-2010, 16:05
:hmmm: :devs: :devf: :whie: :5nana: :r11: :beer:
Hahahahaha thats very funny! :devf:
Rossoneri Fuego
11-06-2010, 19:36
why is our management so obsessed with allegri? why not tassoti after all he's earned it?
Ahah, now that Inter finally managed to win the CL, Moratti speaks like Berlu or Galliani !! Damn, he's really jealous ?!
http://www.calciomercato.com/prima-pagina/inter-ciao-maicon-moratti-ci-sara-un-sacrificio
The next step, probably next year, is to speak about balancing the books I think ... Welcome in our world, "cousins" !! :D
PS: I know it's not about our mercato, but I really found it funny when I read this article, really, if you don't watch the picture, and if you erase the "Inter" and "Moratti" words from the article, you could really think it is Galliani speaking ... Milan is the creator of a new wave in football clubs (we have always been the ones who make the innovations) !!
hitmannq8
12-06-2010, 04:20
Rumors today that Braida has offered 27 year old right back Francois Clerc a 3 year contract with a salary of less than 1m per season. Even though he is cheap and free, this player is not a good addition. He's not the type of player we need, not even as a sub. We should have tried for Motta (Roma). What happened to Mario Fernandes, Van der Wiel, Jucilei and all those players we were linked with?
Other rumors from skysport claim that Gattuso will join Cannavaro (Trez & Lippi included) at Al Ahli in Dubai. Now that would be a good move as we would free one more useless player from an expensive contract. Hopefully this could open the door to Jucilei. There's also a rumor that City is offering 15mil for Ronaldinho and a 9mil per year contract. I would refuse it and ask for 20m.
Moratti wants to sacrifice at least one player from his team, most likely Maicon. Inter are already shaping up the Benitez way and I can see them being so pathetic. Inter should have kept on to their squad. As much as I'd like to see Inter crumble in Italy, we need them badly in Europe especially next year as we need to get 5 more points than Germany on average to keep our 4th CL spot.
We should hope that teams like Palermo, Juve, Samp, Roma and Napoli not disgrace Italy in Europe as they have been accustomed to in recent years. I believe in Napoli but not the rest.
In this story with Allegri, Milan and Cagliari, there is a man coming back as a rumour: Leonardo.
Actually, like Cagliari with Allegri, Leonardo is still under contract and they wait to have a replacement before breaking it and allowing Leo to come back in Brazil ... It looks like they do that to have a way to put some kind of pressure on Cellino: if he asks for too much or if he really intends to keep Allegri (which he won't do anyway), Leonardo could be sent back on our bench until the end of his contract.
It's the rumour of the day.
Rossoneri Fuego
12-06-2010, 05:56
Milan Patron Silvio Berlusconi Tells Adriano Galliani To Raise Transfer Funds By Selling Players - Report
Players need to be sold before new ones arrive...
By Salvatore Landolina
Jun 12, 2010 10:10:00 AM
Milan patron Silvio Berlusconi has sent a transfer mandate to CEO Adriano Galliani reminding him that equity needs to be raised from player sales before the club invests in new transfers.
Telelombardia reports that Berlusconi spoke to Galliani over the phone this week, telling him to have a rethink before making heavy investments.
With the transfer budget slashed in line with new spending policies, Galliani has little to play with.
Berlusconi wants fringe players on high wages ousted from the club and he hopes Galliani can bring the wage bill down across the squad. It currently stands at €86 million per annum.
Kahka Kaladze, Marek Jankulovski and Massimo Oddo are all unlikely to be offered new deals as part of planned cuts.
Even Ronaldinho's future is uncertain. He seems unwilling to take a pay cut, leaving the door open for a move to Manchester City.
I AGREE OUT WITH THE OLD IN WITH THE NEW!
I think that is probably our problem with money.
too many players have been here too long, their wages have inmcremently increased as part of their deals and when they've got new contracts they've probably got pay raises too.
all this means is we have loads of players on astronomical wages that aren't doing much. I shudder to think what Seedorf is on.
Rumors today that Braida has offered 27 year old right back Francois Clerc a 3 year contract with a salary of less than 1m per season. Even though he is cheap and free, this player is not a good addition. He's not the type of player we need, not even as a sub. We should have tried for Motta (Roma). What happened to Mario Fernandes, Van der Wiel, Jucilei and all those players we were linked with?
Is he free agent? Actually I wouldn't mind him as he's nice player from what I've seen through his period at Lyon... Even featured for France as I can recall... It would be good move, small salary, better than Jankulovski and certainly younger than Oddo... And at least he is fullback comparing to Abate...
Anyway, I would welcome this move... He can be decent backup, but we also need starter, offloading Zambro and bringing Van der Wiel as starter and Clerc as backup would be pretty nice job, if you ask me...
hitmannq8
12-06-2010, 06:59
Thing is, we aren't offloading Zambrotta. Gianluca is one of our untouchables in the managements eyes unfortunately. It would definitely be nice to get rid of Oddo, Janku, Kaladze, Favalli (done), Zambrotta, Gattuso, Dida (done) all in one summer..but its highly unlikely.
Others news:
City on T.Silva
Allegri should arrive in 5/6 days after Galliani and Cellino meet
Milan linked with a young French attacker called Kevin Gabiero (his clause is 15m euro)
Krasic: "I'm not going to City"
Tuttomercato says Dzeko is going to Juve. Also Gallas is better choice then free Yepes, but we cannot do that also.
Christian
12-06-2010, 08:04
Whats up with all this fetish for Fabiano? Yes Huntelaar was bad, but Fabiano isn't that much better! Keep in mind Fabiano is 30! Dzeko is the best choice, or send Pato to the middle, and bring in Krasic or Ganso.
Fabiano is by far the best striker on the market. For Brazil he's one of the best strikers in the world. He's had injury problems with Sevilla, but he still always managed to score goals. Check his scoring record for Brazil it's fenomonal.
He's currently much better than Dzeko, and certainly better than Huntelaar as well, obviously Dzeko would be the better solution long term, but if we're looking for someone who's gonna be good now, then Fabiano is the best option. To bad we didn't buy him a couple of years ago, he could've been an absolute legend for Milan.
Fabiano is by far the best striker on the market. For Brazil he's one of the best strikers in the world. He's had injury problems with Sevilla, but he still always managed to score goals. Check his scoring record for Brazil it's fenomonal.
He's currently much better than Dzeko, and certainly better than Huntelaar as well, obviously Dzeko would be the better solution long term, but if we're looking for someone who's gonna be good now, then Fabiano is the best option. To bad we didn't buy him a couple of years ago, he could've been an absolute legend for Milan.
Thing is, we MUST NOT look for someone who's going to be good NOW, we need someone who will be great in future, and good now... As much as I like Fabiano type forward, I wouldn't get him this summer.
We must not make these transfers (30+ players) anymore, because if we don't want to totally colapse we need young fresh blood, old up to 26 years max.
Many people think we should buy someone to UPGRADE team, but reality is we need to build it from the bottom. We don't have recognizable play anymore so we could afford to buy one-two players just to fulfill that, we need new ideas and try to smartly get players who will be dictating our play in several years...
Making mistakes like letting Krasic, Gourcuff, Dzeko and several others go to other teams makes this management completely incompetent...
Tuttomercato says Dzeko is going to Juve. Also Gallas is better choice then free Yepes, but we cannot do that also.
Yepes is a far better player than Gallas nowadays ...
Milan linked with a young French attacker called Kevin Gabiero (his clause is 15m euro)
It's Kevin Gameiro from Lorient ... A young and very fast striker (but also a small size player). He did a very good season in Lorient. My question about him is to know if it's thanks to the way Lorient plays (they have decent players, but they play well together thanks to the tactics of Gourcuff, they are always moving, a bit like Lille, these both teams are the most interesting ones tactically, so is Gameiro one of these decent players or is he the one outstanding in the team ?).
EDIT: Just saw the article on TMW ... they don't say we're linked with him but the contrary actually. They report we don't want him anymore.
Is he free agent? Actually I wouldn't mind him as he's nice player from what I've seen through his period at Lyon... Even featured for France as I can recall... It would be good move, small salary, better than Jankulovski and certainly younger than Oddo... And at least he is fullback comparing to Abate...
As good as he could be (or not) for us, it's just another very injury prone player ... and like I don't rate him that high, decent player + very injury prone = I hope it's just a rumour !!
if i was rich, id buy 2 or three players 4 milan
hitmannq8
12-06-2010, 11:27
Rumors from yesterday:
Janku's agent say Janku's future depends on Milans new tactician and also Rino Gattuso has not ruled out a move to Dubai but has not confirmed it.
if i was rich, id buy 2 or three players 4 milan
Heck, if I'm rich I'll buy Milan club itself
if i was rich, id buy 2 or three players 4 milan
You shoud buy the club and lead it to glory :D
And then, remember to come here often and make all of us happy :1ole:
Selling Marek, Oddo, Gattuso, Kaladze and Huntelaar needs to be done. Those players still have mercato value and Milan needs that kind of moves. That would also mean those players will be replaced by half-quality players coz of Galliani :) We'll start with Lazzari.
hitmannq8
12-06-2010, 14:30
There's a video of Dzeko saying that Milan were interested in him last year, but this year it doesn't look like it because of Wolfsburg's money requests.
Rossoneri Fuego
12-06-2010, 16:22
england's a disgrace i hope either germany, spain, italy, knock england out of the round of 16
i dont like england at all, but i think this time they'll peak at the right time
Storari renewed his contract until 2013 (TMW, no official report for moment).
We're ok with the GK position now (Storari, Abbiati).
ACMILAN1983
13-06-2010, 11:18
Asamoah of Udinese, a player who I know was popular last year (nefremo I remember likes him too) really impressed me today for Ghana, in a role he's not normally used for.
He's been a little under the radar this season, but I think if we don't get Jucilei he is just as good an alternative for us. A superb player who plays with great maturity, is strong in the tackle, yet technically gifted and good at dominating play (I don't remember him losing a ball today). Oh, and he's just 21.
When I think about it, I'm amazed he's not been mentioned here more often (by me or anyone) as a possibility, though like with Jucilei in Brazil, it's easy to miss him as his role isn't one which often grabs headlines.
england's a disgrace i hope either germany, spain, italy, knock england out of the round of 16
I don't think England were particularly bad besides Green's mistake yesterday. It's a decent side and with a little work from Capello, it could win the world cup. Bear in mind what I say is not as an England fan, as I'm neutral.
TMW reports that we bought 50% of Curci three days ago for 3M.
They say we did so in the case of a sale of Storari to Samp, but Storari renewed his contract here and will come back, and Samp has chosen another target ... Curci.
Milan have reached agreement for Blasi he will come for free
Asamoah of Udinese, a player who I know was popular last year (nefremo I remember likes him too) really impressed me today for Ghana, in a role he's not normally used for.
He's been a little under the radar this season, but I think if we don't get Jucilei he is just as good an alternative for us. A superb player who plays with great maturity, is strong in the tackle, yet technically gifted and good at dominating play (I don't remember him losing a ball today). Oh, and he's just 21.
When I think about it, I'm amazed he's not been mentioned here more often (by me or anyone) as a possibility, though like with Jucilei in Brazil, it's easy to miss him as his role isn't one which often grabs headlines.
I totally agree on Asamoah...i had the chance to watch a lot of Udinese in 2008-2009 and he was really impressive and even more so when i found out how old he was..however, i haven't seen a lot of him this year.
seems we've signed blasi for free which is not a bad deal as we need back-up for flamini after Gattuso goes to UAE hopefully :)
and i'm very hopeful that Kaladze, Oddo, & Jankulovski will leave too even if it doesn't seem so for now, but knowing that they are linked means we are ready to sell them at last which means some crazy club will come with enough money.
hoenstly, just like mrki, i did not imagine we could get rid of dida, favalli, gattuso, oddo, kala, & janku all in one mercato, but doing that would make it a successful mercato even if we sign no one to replace them.
and yes i'll take Yepes over Gallas any time
Milan have reached agreement for Blasi he will come for free
His agent just denied that. link (http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=27186)
hitmannq8
13-06-2010, 14:25
Rumors for today:
Albertazzi to Siena on loan
Blasi - Milan agreement found and the player should sign for 2 years (Ambro + Flam + Gattuso AND Blasi? What about Jucilei for 6m euro?! Does this mean management fked up again and picked 30 yr old Blasi who is free and crap over a player like Jucilei?)
Allegri only a few days away from Milan
Milan linked with Nigerian goal keeper, plays for Tel Aviv, his price should be 2m euro. His performance reminded me of a young Buffon, however he will cost us a Non-EU spot.
Storari renews till 2013
Roberto Mancini doesnt want R80 at City but their management does
Gattuso could leave Milan to Dubai
correction:
blasi's agent has denied the rumors
Rossoneri Fuego
13-06-2010, 14:48
krasic played a incredible game, high workrate only thing was he didnt score he'll probally cost 30 -25 mill now, get ready guys all the prices will get inflated like crazy
Rumors for today:
Albertazzi to Siena on loan
Blasi - Milan agreement found and the player should sign for 2 years (Ambro + Flam + Gattuso AND Blasi? What about Jucilei for 6m euro?! Does this mean management fked up again and picked 30 yr old Blasi who is free and crap over a player like Jucilei?)
Allegri only a few days away from Milan
Milan linked with Nigerian goal keeper, plays for Tel Aviv, his price should be 2m euro. His performance reminded me of a young Buffon, however he will cost us a Non-EU spot.
Storari renews till 2013
Roberto Mancini doesnt want R80 at City but their management does
Gattuso could leave Milan to Dubai
correction:
blasi's agent has denied the rumors
Vincent Enyeama is promising, I like this guy. Look like all good news.
kastriot
13-06-2010, 15:06
krasic played a incredible game, high workrate only thing was he didnt score he'll probally cost 30 -25 mill now, get ready guys all the prices will get inflated like crazy
Krasic was nowhere to be seen, one game is not enough to judge a player but nothing he did today didn`t prove the 20 mil Cska is asking. On the other hand the Jovanovic played great,....he was free, Liverpool got him. We were seriously intersted but nobody in here didn`t want him, including me. :hammer:
Rossoneri Fuego
13-06-2010, 15:30
Krasic was nowhere to be seen, one game is not enough to judge a player but nothing he did today didn`t prove the 20 mil Cska is asking. On the other hand the Jovanovic played great,....he was free, Liverpool got him. We were seriously intersted but nobody in here didn`t want him, including me. :hammer:
my macedonian friend he was opening lanes, doing crosses in the second half go and see towards the last minutes of the game where he took a clear shot on goal and the goal keeper did one super save, if you want go watch highlights again and you'll see
hitmannq8
13-06-2010, 16:14
I thought Krasic was pretty bad today and he was the reason Serbia did not win the game with his miss.
I liked Ozil too and I always thought we should get Podolski, I like him.
I like the Nigerian keeper alot but he's 29 and he's Non-EU.
Blasi To Milan? :eekani:
we're getting close to my dream lineup :proud:
-------------Roma----------
-Oddo-Gooch-Favallinho-Zambro-
----Blasi----Pirlo--Brocchi--
--KHunt---Inzaghi--:5inter:--
(the last guy is Mancini)
I thought Krasic was bad too. He worked hard yes, run a lot....but it's not just all about running. At times I felt like he was needlesly running. Doubling up with other players plenty of time. Going to places where he really didn't need to go.
This doesn't mean that he is a bad player. It was one game. But he didn't do good today in my opinion.
Dev, you are right. I do like Asamoah. And the one thing that i think we learned about him now is that he is versitile. He can do many things on the field. Too bad our menagement overlooks solid players like that, that can be signed for not a lot of money. Yet we go for others that are clearly past it.
I hope this Blasi rummor us just that. I really don't see what he would do in Milan.
Gabriel489
13-06-2010, 21:39
Krasic was not bad but he was not great either.
Krasic was very bad based on the hype he got in the last weeks. He did move a lot but created nothing, he had one good possibility to shoot on the goal but he only managed to shoot straight at the keeper. Very weak, jovanovic on the left side was better yesterday.
Still, we should not judge a player after one game in which the whole team was horrible.
not just krasic
but the serbia team playing a bad tactic
with the kind of player they have and they still playing football this type
its not suitable to their player imo
just long balls to the front from the back
its like seeing serbia playing only with forward and defenders
there is no midfield there
though lukovic and jovanovic stands out in the game for serbia in my eyes
Filipéz 182
14-06-2010, 00:58
Krasic was terrible. but its only 1 game so that doesnt mean he is a bad player.
Mesut Ozil proved once again what an excellent player he is! I was so impressed by him. But we dont need him, we'll get blasi :(
kastriot
14-06-2010, 01:28
my macedonian friend he was opening lanes, doing crosses in the second half go and see towards the last minutes of the game where he took a clear shot on goal and the goal keeper did one super save, if you want go watch highlights again and you'll see
He is their most hyped player, He ran a lot(and that is due to 10 man behind the ball tactics.) , he had some crosses at the end but that is when they were one goal down,and were chasing result.but he lost so much balls, too much I`d say.
He had a clear shot on goal, but the keeper didn`t pull a super save, Krasic shot straight to him, when he had all the time in the world to decide which corner to shot.
Gabriel489
14-06-2010, 03:39
Even though it is on goal.com, but I could not help myself to think that if Gouch continues to play like he did against England, there is a good chance that Berlu will sell T.Silva to ManCity for 30mil as he thinks Nesta, GOuch, Yepes and Bonera are good enough for Milan.
zakakhan
14-06-2010, 05:32
Khedira and ozil is the most impressive midfielders of worldcup so far...............
Nigerias goalkeeper had a good game against Argentina, against any other goalie Messi would have scored a hat trick. Ozil has also been impressive.
So far of the teams that have played, Germany, Mexico and South Korea have looked impressive. Mexico and Germany will definately top their respective groups, no doubt.
Nigerias goalkeeper had a good game against Argentina, against any other goalie Messi would have scored a hat trick. Ozil has also been impressive.
So far of the teams that have played, Germany, Mexico and South Korea have looked impressive. Mexico and Germany will definately top their respective groups, no doubt.
He was really good but I prefer judging a player by his performances in a full season than a tournament like World Cup. Rustu played superbly for Turkey in 2002 but we all know how he performed for Barcelona.
Rossoneri Fuego
14-06-2010, 07:26
Allegri to shake-up AC Milan midfield with Pirlo, Ambrosini threat
14.06.10 | tribalfootball.com
Incoming AC Milan coach Massimiliano Allegri has discussed an overhaul of the team's midfield with club chiefs.
Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani knows Allegri wants more focus on Mathieu Flamini and will freeze out one of Andrea Pirlo or captain Massimo Ambrosini from next season's midfield. Rino Gattuso's future is also in focus.
Allegri wants his midfield to be more robust and has discussed moving for his former Cagliari midfielder Andrea Lazzari with Galliani.
Talks with Palermo for Manuele Blasi are also at an advanced stage as Allegri seeks to inject some energy and steel to his engineroom for next season.
FINALLY!
Allegri to shake-up AC Milan midfield with Pirlo, Ambrosini threat
14.06.10 | tribalfootball.com
Incoming AC Milan coach Massimiliano Allegri has discussed an overhaul of the team's midfield with club chiefs.
Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani knows Allegri wants more focus on Mathieu Flamini and will freeze out one of Andrea Pirlo or captain Massimo Ambrosini from next season's midfield. Rino Gattuso's future is also in focus.
Allegri wants his midfield to be more robust and has discussed moving for his former Cagliari midfielder Andrea Lazzari with Galliani.
Talks with Palermo for Manuele Blasi are also at an advanced stage as Allegri seeks to inject some energy and steel to his engineroom for next season.
FINALLY!
If Lazzari and Blasi come, and if Flamini becomes a sure starter, I hope they will keep Pirlo ... and Ambro deserves at least one last year in Milan after this season.
For Gattuso, maybe it's time to go for him, rumours are about Lippi and Cannavaro both going to Dubai, so why not Gattuso going there with them ?
Rossoneri Fuego
14-06-2010, 07:43
i just think pirlo needs to play more behind and not run alott after all he is 31, he's our brain in midfield, he's not c.makelele, p.viera hehe but he's a good conductor in midfield,
Pirlo is longevity-type, he should remain.
ACMILAN1983
14-06-2010, 10:29
Dev, you are right. I do like Asamoah. And the one thing that i think we learned about him now is that he is versitile. He can do many things on the field. Too bad our menagement overlooks solid players like that, that can be signed for not a lot of money. Yet we go for others that are clearly past it.
I hope this Blasi rummor us just that. I really don't see what he would do in Milan.
Asamoah is versatile, but his strength is his box to box ability, which is how he's used for Udinese, and essentially the type of midfielder we need right now. What really impresses me about him is his maturity. He plays incredibly smartly and is a bit like Pirlo in the way he makes space for himself and doesn't let opponents press him. For me yesterday he showed, more than anything else, that he has a great footballing brain.
If Lazzari and Blasi come, and if Flamini becomes a sure starter, I hope they will keep Pirlo ... and Ambro deserves at least one last year in Milan after this season.
For Gattuso, maybe it's time to go for him, rumours are about Lippi and Cannavaro both going to Dubai, so why not Gattuso going there with them ?
I'm sure Blasi won't come, his agent already denied any rumours and even our management must surely see he's not the player we need.
I think Gattuso doesn't really have much place in the current Milan squad, and agree with you it's not a big loss if he were to go to Dubai. I also think both Pirlo and Ambro should remain in Milan, but to be used much less given their age now.
I already mentioned above about wanting Jucilei or Asamoah, both of whom would take Ambro's spot in the team. However, both are also young, so having an experienced Ambro available will be beneficial.
It's the same with Pirlo. He's a great player and still incredibly important. However, we need an alternative for him as we can't rely on him all the time. Ganso of Santos is one who I'd see as a replacement for Pirlo (even if he plays a little higher up the pitch), given his technical ability, passing range and vision. However, as with Ambro, having an experienced Pirlo in the squad would benefit the youngster who eventually takes over his role.
The problem is funding for these players. To get one of Jucilei or Asamoah is a priority for me and with our given budget it should be possible. However, I think we still need a defender (fullback ideally) and Ganso. The defender may be quite difficult, but again we should realistically be able to scrape enough to get the money for a half decent one (i.e. someone like Cristico or Bocchetti).
The big problem is getting Ganso, who's not cheap. 25m is the asking price and I can't imagine him leaving for less than 15m. That means we need a high profile sale like Dinho to get him. The problem though is that Ganso isn't really suited to replace Dinho in his current role. Therefore, if Ganso was gotten by selling Dinho, we'd need another player to replace Dinho.
I'm sure Blasi won't come, his agent already denied any rumours and even our management must surely see he's not the player we need.
I think Gattuso doesn't really have much place in the current Milan squad, and agree with you it's not a big loss if he were to go to Dubai. I also think both Pirlo and Ambro should remain in Milan, but to be used much less given their age now.
I already mentioned above about wanting Jucilei or Asamoah, both of whom would take Ambro's spot in the team. However, both are also young, so having an experienced Ambro available will be beneficial.
It's the same with Pirlo. He's a great player and still incredibly important. However, we need an alternative for him as we can't rely on him all the time. Ganso of Santos is one who I'd see as a replacement for Pirlo (even if he plays a little higher up the pitch), given his technical ability, passing range and vision. However, as with Ambro, having an experienced Pirlo in the squad would benefit the youngster who eventually takes over his role.
The problem is funding for these players. To get one of Jucilei or Asamoah is a priority for me and with our given budget it should be possible. However, I think we still need a defender (fullback ideally) and Ganso. The defender may be quite difficult, but again we should realistically be able to scrape enough to get the money for a half decent one (i.e. someone like Cristico or Bocchetti).
I agree with you, we need to keep some of our experienced players ... the best ones if possible of course !! :D
Aren't the best teams in the history always set up with a mix between young and promising players and more experienced ones ?
I don't mind having Pirlo playing 50 games a year if around him, he has 2 players who are always able to run for 90 minutes (allowing Pirlo to manage his efforts during the games) ... I don't mind seeing Seedorf playing 25-30 minutes in each game if it is needed ... I don't mind seeing Nesta as our main CD if he has a proper replacement on the bench (and good rotation from the coach) ... etc.
If we can get rid of Kaladze (Dynamo Kiev tries to get him, Sheva is his best friend, so ... who knows ? Even if we sell him for 500K, it will be a winning situation for us), Oddo (Lazio seems a possible destination, we should allow him to join his former club even for free), Jankulovski (more difficult because the guy seems to only want Milan or a club in his country), and if we sell Gattuso (if it is in Dubai, and given the relationship we established with this place, we can maybe sell him at a good price, 10M would be good IMO) and another player (I'd tend to still say Ronaldinho), we would have some money to spend ... and let's not forget that Berlusconi will do us a "gift" this summer :D (what, you think I'm in a dreaming world ?!).
This thread is becoming very boring
This thread is becoming very boring
Thank you ... :D
Damn, our mercato hasn't started yet nor really the WC (boring games). They don't help us !! :(
IMO, Galliani's transfer policy is getting a unexpected good player from a tournement, this player must be in a small league to lower the price.
Gooch & Adyiyah proved that, and if Enyeama comes, I won't be supprised, though I like Özil much more :D
daniele de Rossi golllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Forza Italia :love:
Samaldinho
14-06-2010, 18:44
Yesterday's game, for me, showed what I've been wanting to say about Krasic. I think he's supremely overrated. In fact, that was the most I've seen him run in a game, and I actually have decided to watch him since January.
Watching him in the CL, not just against Inter, but against Sevilla, I saw a player who would infuriate everyone here, including myself. He does not have a particularly good work rate and he really phases in and out of games. Honestly, against Sevilla, I could not fathom how anyone who wants a faster, harder working team would want him in the side.
However, Krasic is not the biggest thing, as I don't think he will come to Milan anyways. For me, Montolivo's performance today was something that Milan should look at. I missed the first half, and only watched the second, and from what I saw, I think Montolivo really has matured immensely. Part of the problem for Italy was placing Marchisio as the center midfielder in the 3 part of the 4-2-3-1, that position should be Montolivo's, not Marchisio.
The 4-2-3-1 that is being used by Lippi is a problem mostly because of the players he is relying upon, and it reminds me of Italy in Euro 2004.
Marchisio should be playing next to De Rossi with Montolivo playing further up. Even if Pirlo was fit, I would want this change. I just don't understand how people are slating Montolivo's performance. Today's Italy game illustrated the poor attack that Lippi brought to the WC. Pepe might have been hard working, but he clearly is missing a bit of class, and don't get me started on Iaquinta.
This was a game where Borriello would have been the best choice for Italy, honestly. The point of all this, anyways, is to underline how Montolivo might be the best choice for us in our search for a new midfielder. If Jucilei or Ganso is between 15-25 million, I would rather put a little less money in Montolivo and use the rest on a full back. At 25 he is at the right age in his career to make that next step, I really think he can be a great player at Milan.
I agree with some of the stuff you said Samaldinho. I also don't think that Montolivo played bad. As a matter of fact I think that Marchisio was the one that wasn't having a good game. Partly because he can't be a playmaker. He has good skills and a decent vision but he can't be a playmaker. He is much better as a box-to-box type of modfielder so I agree that swapping him and Montolivo in this formation would work much better.
However I disagree about the Pirlo part. When Pirlo is ready he should be immediately put in this squad because if anything, today's game proved how important Pirlo is to this Italy.
Also.....Van Der Wiel impressed me today. I was a little unsure of his defensive ability, but I feel a little better about that after today. I think he did very well. And by the way...if there is a player out there that he resembles (don't want to make comparisons and am not saying that he is there yet but..) in my opinion it is Maicon. Van Der Wiel reminds me of him so much when going forward.
Elia also impressed for the Dutch in the short time he was on the field. The game changed when he came in, even though it was mostly tactical and not plain individual effort from Elia. He simply followed instructions and kept the team's shape by staying wide and staying out of Sneijder's way. (something Van Der Vaart didn't do) But in any case, Elia seems to be a very interesting player. Let's see how he'll do in the other opportunities he gets.
IMO, Galliani's transfer policy is getting a unexpected good player from a tournement, this player must be in a small league to lower the price.
Gooch & Adyiyah proved that, and if Enyeama comes, I won't be supprised, though I like Özil much more :D
Totally agree with this... And I don't have a problem with it! The Nigerian Keeper would be great....
But this kind of transfer policy should mean we needn't sell players like Silva or Pato in the future. If that happens in combination with this discrete transfer policy, that would really piss me off.
Also agree with the wage cuts.... Acts as a safeguard so that we aren't paying any has-beens C.Ronaldo wages like we have done in the past.
ACMILAN1983
15-06-2010, 02:51
Also.....Van Der Wiel impressed me today. I was a little unsure of his defensive ability, but I feel a little better about that after today. I think he did very well. And by the way...if there is a player out there that he resembles (don't want to make comparisons and am not saying that he is there yet but..) in my opinion it is Maicon. Van Der Wiel reminds me of him so much when going forward.
Agree with you there, I watched the dutch with a keen eye on him and he didn't disappoint. He is a little rash as he made one really stupid challenge with studs showing at one point and I know a couple of times for Ajax he's had moments one stupidity.
Gabriel489
15-06-2010, 04:05
Well, Van Der Wiel is one of the next big thing coming out from Holland. To me, in that game alone he showed more promise than Hentiga did when he first started for the Oranje.
Anyhow, I doubt Milan will get him though, maybe if he is 30 or free.
Rossoneri Fuego
15-06-2010, 05:43
watch cska moscow in the champions league in 2010' where krasic would make man united defenders look ridiculous in the group stage, dont judge him on how good he is in a game where serbia lost because of a handball and went a man down because of kuzmanovic, don't judge him based that the system cska run's is completly diffrent to serbia's oh and also dont forget that stankovic is also made to defend more like he said because serbia has a alott of striking options, and remember you guys need to realize that sometimes you dont have to have 1,000 shots on target, crosses, dribble past 4 men like pele and then go from 1 to 3 speed wise like messi, sometimes you just want defenders to focuse on you to create to diffrent spaces and open up more for people around you, face it
Rossoneri Fuego
15-06-2010, 05:48
Yesterday's game, for me, showed what I've been wanting to say about Krasic. I think he's supremely overrated. In fact, that was the most I've seen him run in a game, and I actually have decided to watch him since January.
Watching him in the CL, not just against Inter, but against Sevilla, I saw a player who would infuriate everyone here, including myself. He does not have a particularly good work rate and he really phases in and out of games. Honestly, against Sevilla, I could not fathom how anyone who wants a faster, harder working team would want him in the side.
However, Krasic is not the biggest thing, as I don't think he will come to Milan anyways. For me, Montolivo's performance today was something that Milan should look at. I missed the first half, and only watched the second, and from what I saw, I think Montolivo really has matured immensely. Part of the problem for Italy was placing Marchisio as the center midfielder in the 3 part of the 4-2-3-1, that position should be Montolivo's, not Marchisio.
The 4-2-3-1 that is being used by Lippi is a problem mostly because of the players he is relying upon, and it reminds me of Italy in Euro 2004.
Marchisio should be playing next to De Rossi with Montolivo playing further up. Even if Pirlo was fit, I would want this change. I just don't understand how people are slating Montolivo's performance. Today's Italy game illustrated the poor attack that Lippi brought to the WC. Pepe might have been hard working, but he clearly is missing a bit of class, and don't get me started on Iaquinta.
This was a game where Borriello would have been the best choice for Italy, honestly. The point of all this, anyways, is to underline how Montolivo might be the best choice for us in our search for a new midfielder. If Jucilei or Ganso is between 15-25 million, I would rather put a little less money in Montolivo and use the rest on a full back. At 25 he is at the right age in his career to make that next step, I really think he can be a great player at Milan.
italia was running a modulo di 442 sal ....... they didnt change the formation once even when they were loosing .... youtube it watch atleast 15 minutes and you'll see
Rossoneri Fuego
15-06-2010, 05:51
I agree with some of the stuff you said Samaldinho. I also don't think that Montolivo played bad. As a matter of fact I think that Marchisio was the one that wasn't having a good game. Partly because he can't be a playmaker. He has good skills and a decent vision but he can't be a playmaker. He is much better as a box-to-box type of modfielder so I agree that swapping him and Montolivo in this formation would work much better.
However I disagree about the Pirlo part. When Pirlo is ready he should be immediately put in this squad because if anything, today's game proved how important Pirlo is to this Italy.
Also.....Van Der Wiel impressed me today. I was a little unsure of his defensive ability, but I feel a little better about that after today. I think he did very well. And by the way...if there is a player out there that he resembles (don't want to make comparisons and am not saying that he is there yet but..) in my opinion it is Maicon. Van Der Wiel reminds me of him so much when going forward.
Elia also impressed for the Dutch in the short time he was on the field. The game changed when he came in, even though it was mostly tactical and not plain individual effort from Elia. He simply followed instructions and kept the team's shape by staying wide and staying out of Sneijder's way. (something Van Der Vaart didn't do) But in any case, Elia seems to be a very interesting player. Let's see how he'll do in the other opportunities he gets.
Elia started the game my macedonian friend
(my name is alexandros in english alexander)
kastriot
15-06-2010, 05:53
Elia started the game my macedonian friend
(my name is alexandros in english alexander)
Eli substituted Wan der Wart as I recall
ACMILAN1983
15-06-2010, 06:17
Elia started the game my macedonian friend
(my name is alexandros in english alexander)
As Kastriot said, Elia came on for Van Der Vaart during the second half. He added width and pace which Netherlands sorely lacked during the match before he came on.
He did well and could be one worth keeping an eye on during Robben's absence.
Good to meet you Alexander!:cheers: My name is Nikola, in english Nicholas. :D
Like the two posts above, I am sure that Elia came on in the second half for VDV also.
Also, I understand what you are saying about Krasic. I agree with you about the opening up of space for others and the movement. I actually appreciate a players' off-ball work just as much as you do, believe me. And it's true that Krasic did a lot of that. But also as I said earlier, I feel like at times he tried to do too much of that. he doubled up with players all the time. Went to places where he didn't need to go. IMO he just didn't have a good game and didn't play as good as I've seen him play with his club. But again, he is not a bad player. I don't think anyone is saying that.....but just that he didn't have a good game.
To me it seemed like he was akward as a traditional RM as he seemed to be in that game. CSKA plays him in a slightly different role and gives him a bit more freedom. He is a good player nonetheless so let's see how he does in the next game.
Milan Make €5 Million Bid For Brescia's "New Roberto Baggio" Teenager Lorenzo Tassi
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/06/15/1977844/milan-make-5-million-bid-for-brescias-new-roberto-baggio
He is only 15.
Filipéz 182
15-06-2010, 09:51
finally some good news!! signing supertalented youngsters like him (at least thats what I expect of him for that price) and Hottor finally shows some ambition!
Milan Make €5 Million Bid For Brescia's "New Roberto Baggio" Teenager Lorenzo Tassi
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/06/15/1977844/milan-make-5-million-bid-for-brescias-new-roberto-baggio
He is only 15.
€ 5 millions ia a ridiculously huge amount of money for a relatively unknown 15 year old youngster. Besides, it's his own president that dubs him as a new Baggio. Sounds like marketing gimmick to me.
5M is too much.
He's only 15yo, he can turn to be nothing, the best players at 15 are not always the best players at 18 and later ...
We have no real budget for moment and we would spend that much money on a young talent going to play with the Primavera for at least 2 years before eventually make it to the first team ?!
We don't know anything about him, he probably only played with the youth teams (someone can confirm that ?), the hype about this player seems to come from his president who said he was the new Baggio. It's like saying that Zigoni is the new Toni, Verdi the new Cassano, etc. At this age, that doesn't mean anything.
So I'm all against this deal as you probably understood it !! :D
A report on TMW is about Lazio giving up with Oddo because he asks too much money, but some Spanish clubs would be interested.
kastriot
15-06-2010, 09:57
Milan Make €5 Million Bid For Brescia's "New Roberto Baggio" Teenager Lorenzo Tassi
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/06/15/1977844/milan-make-5-million-bid-for-brescias-new-roberto-baggio
He is only 15.
I hear Tom Cruise is very angry at being replaced by Galliani in "Mission Impossible 4"
Never gonna happen..players at that age are not allowed to have contracts, so why pay 5 mil!!????
According to Don Galliani, Milan's objective next year is the competitions for Primavera, not Serie A or Champion League.
Isn't is interesting? Fighting for the same goal each year is very boring :D
Gabriel489
15-06-2010, 10:58
I laughed at the MI4 part.
hitmannq8
15-06-2010, 14:12
damn everytime I watch Robinho I want him more in a Milan shirt...we should have done the R80-Robinho swap before the WC, it's too late now.... Robinho is better than Ganso in my book.
Anyone still wants Kaka the traitor? :D
I hope, he will follow Ronaldo's step like in the previous match against Ivory Coast.
Rossoneri Fuego
15-06-2010, 14:23
brasil haven't done abso nothing in this game so far .... luis fabiano is on a island .... robinho is the only good player ... north korea plays a 532 but usually changes into a 442 on the counter, it's like i just saw a ghost i thought atleast brasil would have a couple more shots on target .... wow
they say the bid for the 15 yr ol was rejected.
Rossoneri Fuego
15-06-2010, 15:04
it was only a matter of time but brasil should be worried, maicon started the mess?, depending so far in the tournament, germany, south korea, argentina,
(really ugly attacking) and we'll see spain tommorow could be the best teams overall in the tournament, how about mexico's aguirre using nfl balls for the keepers somebody should really put a laxcided in his food hahaha?
i know i'm a bit late, but i'm bored with this Brazil match so i thought i would share a couple of thoughts on Italy's match last night:
- Criscito was the worst Italy player and i can't see why anyone would be asking to sign him ahead of Antonini...i was expecting Maggio to come in and Zambrotta to go to the left all night long...hopefully next match
- Montolivo did improve hugely after the break and i'm not sure but it might be because Marchisio went out and he had a bit more freedom to go forward
- Simone Pepe might not be CR9 but i was impressed with his work rate and desire and willigness to run at defenders which is something Italy is desperately lacking
- Cannavaro was not as bad as people are saying...i think Chiellini was the guy who disappointed
- Overall, i was actually expecting a worse performance from Italy...
Edit: HAHAHA N.Korea scored!!!!
tomorrow on goal.com
Galliani was so impressed by korea, they made an offer for Ji Yun Nam.
it was only a matter of time but brasil should be worried, maicon started the mess?, depending so far in the tournament, germany, south korea, argentina,
(really ugly attacking) and we'll see spain tommorow could be the best teams overall in the tournament, how about mexico's aguirre using nfl balls for the keepers somebody should really put a laxcided in his food hahaha?
i know i'm a bit late, but i'm bored with this Brazil match so i thought i would share a couple of thoughts on Italy's match last night:
- Criscito was the worst Italy player and i can't see why anyone would be asking to sign him ahead of Antonini...i was expecting Maggio to come in and Zambrotta to go to the left all night long...hopefully next match
- Montolivo did improve hugely after the break and i'm not sure but it might be because Marchisio went out and he had a bit more freedom to go forward
- Simone Pepe might not be CR9 but i was impressed with his work rate and desire and willigness to run at defenders which is something Italy is desperately lacking
- Cannavaro was not as bad as people are saying...i think Chiellini was the guy who disappointed
- Overall, i was actually expecting a worse performance from Italy...
Edit: HAHAHA N.Korea scored!!!!
Why not joining us in the WC topics Rossoneri Fuego and LebRN ?
Rossoneri Fuego
15-06-2010, 15:30
makes sense sorry lol!
Elmago99
15-06-2010, 17:36
Getting back to Milan Summer 2010 Mercato....
I think we can get a better idea after the WC what the prices of certain players will be, and how they can fit in the system. What is the system that we will use? will we continue with this sort of 4-3-3.. is that the only system that can be played if you have Ronaldinho in the lineup?
I think Ronaldinho is great but he's similar to Messi in that they cannot adapt to systems other than Barcelona's. For instance, they are not ideal in a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-1-2...correct?
if that's the case they I think Milan should apply a 4-2-3-1 system and this is my preferred lineup
------------------------Edin Dzeko------------------------------------
--------Ronaldinho-----Diego--------Pato--------------------------
------------------Pirlo-----Flamini/Ambrosini------------------
----Michel Bastos---T. Silva....Nesta...Antonini/Zambrotta
---------------------Federico Marchetti---------------------------------
I'd also sell Dida, Oddo, Kaladze, Gattuso, Seedorf
Promote some younger players.....
Subs: Rannochia/Bonucci, Ambrosini, Borriello, Inzaghi (1 more year), Huntelaar, Abbiati, Zambrotta,
* I'd love RObinho too but no sense to have him if you're going to keep ROnaldinho...
* Diego might be available from Juventus... if not Diego, another playmaker in the middle of the park.. In my opinion, Pirlo is almost finished....in that case, 2 defensive midfielders..and then an attacking midfielder... perhaps bring Kaka back??
* maybe Hamsik??
Parma Showing Strong Interest In Milan Defender Kakhaber Kaladze
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/06/16/1978715/parma-showing-strong-interest-in-milan-defender-kakhaber-kaladze-
Well, goal.com again, but I can't help feeling happy for a rumor like this :D
Parma Showing Strong Interest In Milan Defender Kakhaber Kaladze
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/06/16/1978715/parma-showing-strong-interest-in-milan-defender-kakhaber-kaladze-
Well, goal.com again, but I can't help feeling happy for a rumor like this :D
Let them have the high wage champion..... Much rather see Albertazzi take his place, and same with DeVito taking Oddo's spot... But selling him will be harder
slifersd
16-06-2010, 02:41
Same old story: Parma likes Kaladze; Kaladze likes it here (earning high wages while doing absolutely nothing, who wouldnt like that job?); Galliani declares that we do not let go of our champions; Kaladze stays here another year.
Nothing to get excited about here.
From wat I've heard, galliani has made it clear that the Parma deal with Paloschi will not happen again.... Either he will be sold outright or bought back.
Although Paloschi hasn't exactly set the world on fire this season (injuries...) me thinks we will be scared off by wat Parma wants for us to get him back and let them have him. On the other hand, Galliani's incessant rant about youth (and someone said he prefers the Primavera over Serie A or CHampions league next season!) suggests we will try everything to get him back....:hmmm:
ACMILAN1983
16-06-2010, 03:11
Parma Showing Strong Interest In Milan Defender Kakhaber Kaladze
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/06/16/1978715/parma-showing-strong-interest-in-milan-defender-kakhaber-kaladze-
Well, goal.com again, but I can't help feeling happy for a rumor like this :D
I've heard Parma want him on loan with us paying a significant part of his wage. So might not be the deal we want.
5M is too much.
He's only 15yo, he can turn to be nothing, the best players at 15 are not always the best players at 18 and later ...
We have no real budget for moment and we would spend that much money on a young talent going to play with the Primavera for at least 2 years before eventually make it to the first team ?!
We don't know anything about him, he probably only played with the youth teams (someone can confirm that ?), the hype about this player seems to come from his president who said he was the new Baggio. It's like saying that Zigoni is the new Toni, Verdi the new Cassano, etc. At this age, that doesn't mean anything.
So I'm all against this deal as you probably understood it !! :D
A report on TMW is about Lazio giving up with Oddo because he asks too much money, but some Spanish clubs would be interested.
I'm interested in this rumour. At 15 he's hard to judge, but none of us know anything about him, so I will wait to find out more about him before I make my judgement. Pato at 17 was 22m and at 16 Lukaku is 10-15m. 5m may sound high, but if he's really good then it may not be over the top.
damn everytime I watch Robinho I want him more in a Milan shirt...we should have done the R80-Robinho swap before the WC, it's too late now.... Robinho is better than Ganso in my book.
Must admit I was impressed and somewhat more convinced of Robinho after watching him play. It's difficult to compare him to Ganso (two different positions).
[QUOTE=ACMILAN1983;572548]I've heard Parma want him on loan with us paying a significant part of his wage. So might not be the deal we want.
Quite suprised that rumours of Russian clubs interested in kala have now dissapeared. The deal you mentioned above does not sound good at all. Hoping we could've fetched atleast 4 million for his services.
I'd love it if Leo came back...
I'd love it if Leo came back...
I think it's more a way to put pressure on Cellino ... and it seems Cellino postponed again his comeback in Europe and decided not to answer anymore to the calls of Galliani. If he wanted to destroy a good relationship, he found the good way to do it quickly.
I think we will know more this W-E.
About Leo, it would be a second chance, but in what conditions ?! Would he be motivated ? Would the players still follow him ? How would Berlu react ?
By calling back Leo, there would be too many questions about our future ... so I hope we won't need to call him back as our coach.
rosoneri_11
16-06-2010, 18:29
OZIL,OZIL,OZIL!
That player is great, he knows the ball, he knows how to play football.
I pray we sign him.
Remember my words.
Gabriel489
17-06-2010, 02:56
The signing for Milan will be the whole North Korea team. Just imagine having T.Silva, Pato, Flamini and Dinho in that North Korea team. Treple winning here we go.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2010/06/17/1980807/milan-target-villarreal-defender-gonzalo-rodriguez-report
he will probably worth 8-12 M for Milan, but i think milan need to buy Mahamdou Sakho from PSG, young and strong
kastriot
17-06-2010, 04:42
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2010/06/17/1980807/milan-target-villarreal-defender-gonzalo-rodriguez-report
he will probably worth 8-12 M for Milan, but i think milan need to buy Mahamdou Sakho from PSG, young and strong
Why not takeGodin from villareal who si for free...and very solid defender!!!
Why not takeGodin from villareal who si for free...and very solid defender!!!
his contract expiring?
Gabriel489
17-06-2010, 04:53
Oh Sakho, one of the best CB in Football Manager.
I have never seen him play, not going to comment but for 8-12m, you can probably get both Santacroce and Bonucci.
Oh Sakho, one of the best CB in Football Manager.
I have never seen him play, not going to comment but for 8-12m, you can probably get both Santacroce and Bonucci.
Lol , i am playing fottball manage since I was 10 years old (now im 17) and in my game today i got sakho as a captain of Milan :hmmm:
but i also saw him playing, he is very similar to Gallas I guess.
I dont really like Satracroce but Bonnuci is great
kastriot
17-06-2010, 05:03
his contract expiring?
It was mentioned earlier that we were interested because he was free!!! not sure though!
A rumour is becoming bigger and bigger each day: we would trade our old Huntelaar to get the young Klose ...
The most stupid move IMO.
Today, on TMW, they report we are ok with this trade but only if Bayern gives us 10M with Klose.
It's a way to get money and replace a player by another one, but Klose today isn't worth taking the place of Huntelaar.
If we really don't want Huntelaar anymore, we should try to sell him without any trade. Who knows, if he plays one or two games in this WC, plays well and scores, we could try to sell him 20M for example ...
A rumour is becoming bigger and bigger each day: we would trade our old Huntelaar to get the young Klose ...
The most stupid move IMO.
Today, on TMW, they report we are ok with this trade but only if Bayern gives us 10M with Klose.
It's a way to get money and replace a player by another one, but Klose today isn't worth taking the place of Huntelaar.
If we really don't want Huntelaar anymore, we should try to sell him without any trade. Who knows, if he plays one or two games in this WC, plays well and scores, we could try to sell him 20M for example ...
yeah, that rumour is riddicilus
ACMILAN1983
17-06-2010, 06:01
This Allegri farce may apparently be coming to an end as Galliani apparently spoke to Cellino (on the phone) and managed to agree over Allegri. However player deals are still another story. All news from milannews.
hitmannq8
17-06-2010, 07:36
Galliani: "The Allegri situation has been resolved with Cellino and we must thank the Cagliari president as he did not ask for anything to free Allegri."
Allegri is now unofficially our coach, we just need to sign the papers. Now that we know who our coach will be, we can plan for the future starting today.
ACMILAN1983
17-06-2010, 07:56
Galliani: "The Allegri situation has been resolved with Cellino and we must thank the Cagliari president as he did not ask for anything to free Allegri."
Allegri is now unofficially our coach, we just need to sign the papers. Now that we know who our coach will be, we can plan for the future starting today.
Glad that mess is finally over. Welcome to Allegri too, I hope the best for him during his time as Milan coach.
Also read on milannews that Pedro Leon is again heavily linked to us and could be ours for a fee of around 10m euros.
hitmannq8
17-06-2010, 08:22
10m is too much for Pedro Leon, way too much (considering our situation). Milan would never pay that much for anyone...maybe for Messi he'll consider the 10mil :D
Jucilei was yesterday being linked with Napoli and his agent has confirmed that he likes Napoli's interest but there's nothing concrete from them.
Raiola (agent of Ibra, Balotelli) was spotted in Milan and had a meeting with Galliani. Galliani said that they have met but did not talk about Ibra or Pato, but an interesting young player. The rest of the websites are reporting that Milan are wrapping up the deal for 16-year-old Brazilian Rodrigo Ely (a defender). Raiola is also the agent of this player. Any one know if he has an EU passport? Cause if he doesn't, I would be so pissed.
Jay Crisp
17-06-2010, 09:22
Didnt we start watching him in January and he trained with Primavera in Feb , I think we discussed him back then and he doesnt have an EU passport....I think.
With the WC on all mercato action is slow as the players are busy...so no real movement.But we are not even linked to anyone well linked with some solid information , I must say that this Klose Hunter swap has to be a joke and awful awful move and I do not believe it I refuse to believe it.
Even with the 10 million and Klose I wouldnt go for it , as the 10 million may do a Houdini and vanish , also what happened to the 20/30 million we had to spend that Galli and Braida mentioned in May ???
Suddenly we have to sell to buy or was it just sell to free up space IDK.
Allegri is our manager good for him hope it works out , he will need to have some sort of budget to have a chance of success .He's only taken over and we'll most likely have to wait until half way through July for anything to happen and he'll only have 3 or 4 weeks with players on holiday from the world cup.
Im really not expecting anything from this season unless Janku Oddo Kala Zambro Rino are gone and replaced by 3 good signings and 2 or 3 from primavera.I expect the likes of Oddo Kala Janku to see out there contracts happily doing nothing and getting paid for it.
But really Milan make enough money to be able to spend at least 30 million on this mercato maybe even 50 - 60 with sales and wage savings , it baffles me alot but whatever ....I have no faith in this MGT or there spend nothing mentality which is where we are at , I could be wrong but I doubt it this year and maybe next year.
hitmannq8
17-06-2010, 10:04
Dzeko: "I'm leaving Wolfsburg for a better future"
despite Nigeria goin down to 10 men and struggling, Enyeama (the Nigerian GK) is still impressive
Welcome Massimiliano Allegri!
hitmannq8
17-06-2010, 10:29
oh my god... I have a hardon for Enyeama
MILAN MUST MOVE NOW AND BUY THIS GUY!!! He's playing better than Buffon ever did!!! And I used to one of Buffons fans!! He's absolutely stunning!!!!!
edit 2 minutes later: wow just when I said that he dropped the ball and greece scored hahaha
oh my god... I have a hardon for Enyeama
MILAN MUST MOVE NOW AND BUY THIS GUY!!! He's playing better than Buffon ever did!!! And I used to one of Buffons fans!! He's absolutely stunning!!!!!
edit 2 minutes later: wow just when I said that he dropped the ball and greece scored hahaha
No way ... :D
I'd like to know something: yes, Enyeama did two good games, even two excellent games (one single mistake costing Nigeria a goal, but he's not the first one nor will be the last one to do some mistake in this WC, and the red card is probably more important than this mistake, and where were the defenders after this mistake ?), but has someone some informations, statistics, about him in his club ?
Because even in his bad periods, Dida managed to do some amazing games here and there (the problem was just that he was able to concede stupid goals the game just after), so actually, what is important is how good or bad he's been during a whole season.
So if someone watches the games of Apoel Tel Aviv ...
haha
hitman...the football gods have punished you for saying he was playing better then Buffon EVER did!
But I agree that he's done great in the first two games. It was a mistake by him on the second goal and he could have delt with it better.....but hey, there's always the Jabulani to blame it on! :D
Joke aside however, he has been one of the best (the best so far I think) goalkeepers in this World Cup. But like Geo said (this WC has only seen Enyeama play 2 games), we can't judge him on 2 games.
Enyeama
http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/can-the-cat-succeed-in-a-major-league-in-europe-/3897/
also, rumours of Arsenal watching him closely
Trust me, i am from israel and i saw him playin , he is amazing. Milan really should think about him, his team has won Israeli League and Israeli Cup, he is best goalkeeper in the league and was very mpressive against Argentina
i dont get why the hell milan never bought hernanes last year. instead they bought some "higly rated ghanan" who apparently isnt even highly rated by ghana, as i have yet to see him play.
we bought those 2 Uruguayans also, viudez and cardacio awhile back. i think who ever is in charge of non-eu transfers should be fired.
i hope Allegri has balls ans its a little puss, ans demand transfers for players that he highly rates.
ZvonimirBoban
17-06-2010, 12:49
i hope Allegri has balls ans its a little puss, ans demand transfers for players that he highly rates.
Expect to see Andrea Lazzari and Robert Acquafresca. Too bad Sevilla got Guarente already.
johncharles365
17-06-2010, 12:56
i dont get why the hell milan never bought hernanes last year. instead they bought some "higly rated ghanan" who apparently isnt even highly rated by ghana, as i have yet to see him play.
we bought those 2 Uruguayans also, viudez and cardacio awhile back. i think who ever is in charge of non-eu transfers should be fired.
shevchenko that season actually took up a non eu spot the another went to viudez cardacio has a italian passport, on reflection i would agree it kept thiago silva out of the team gods knows how 08/09 could have been different if we had silva playing instead of maldini or favalli at cb. As for adiyiah well he is cheap and showed some promise i would have preferred andre ayew but we went for adiyiah instead still he was within milan transfer budget which is after the most telling factor. as for hernanes the most mediocre Brazilian player i have watch in a long time none of the clubs seem particularly interested in him reported to be valued at 18 million euros i am not surprised besides he would have only been purchased if milan had sold pirlo.
In reference to the non eu spots well i have had a change of heart jucilie has easily been one of the most consistent players for Corinthians this season his general level of energy ability to hold up the ball and relatively low price tag of 6-10 million euros makes him a great purchase. The another spot would have to go to otamendi i just hope he plays very little football this world cup so his price tag will not be overly inflated even with a small transfer budget you would like 7-9 million euros for a fullback/cb is affordable. I would like milan to get ayew but to be honest hopefully with verdi promotion we wouldn't need ayew
hitmannq8
17-06-2010, 14:44
I would spend my non-eu spots on Jucilei (8m euro) and Robinho (I think he has Spanish passport too..). If we have no chance for Robinho, I'd give it to Ganso, if we give up on him we must take Enyeama (his price will be less than 5m euro), and he's 28, and it doesnt matter how bad he was in his career, the last two games shows you that he is capable of being alert for the entire game and can single handedly keep a team in the game. We must look into Enyeama especially as we don't have a really world class GK (we haven't for a couple of years now).
I would spend my non-eu spots on Jucilei (8m euro) and Robinho (I think he has Spanish passport too..). If we have no chance for Robinho, I'd give it to Ganso, if we give up on him we must take Enyeama (his price will be less than 5m euro), and he's 28, and it doesnt matter how bad he was in his career, the last two games shows you that he is capable of being alert for the entire game and can single handedly keep a team in the game. We must look into Enyeama especially as we don't have a really world class GK (we haven't for a couple of years now).
From the website that Reza gave, he did a wonderful season, so why not.
But the reason I put in bold is far to be convincing I think, because it's "just" 2 games with his national team. Completely different from a Sunday game in Brescia ...
Christian
17-06-2010, 16:05
I don't know about Enyeama, I've seen him in two games and in one of them he was fantastic, the other he cost his team the game. Who does that sound like?
Not gonna write him of cause I just haven't seen him enough, but I just don't think you can use this WC as a reason to get him. Would much rather have a look at Benaglio, he might not have made as many wonder saves against Spain as Enyeama did against Argentina, but he looked much more secure. Didn't drop a single ball, was dominating in the air and really looked like he had everything under control. He's also apparently half Italian :)
hitmannq8
17-06-2010, 16:05
Rumors floating around the Milan has accepted a 4m pound bid from Juventus for Storari.
Does this mean..........???:D
Rumors floating around the Milan has accepted a 4m pound bid from Juventus for Storari.
Does this mean..........???:D
... that Dida will sign a new contract ? :D
TMW says yes !!
kakacmilan best
17-06-2010, 16:20
And from what i understand we go Amelia.
Revolver
17-06-2010, 16:39
OZIL,OZIL,OZIL!
That player is great, he knows the ball, he knows how to play football.
I pray we sign him.
Remember my words.
If Allegri wants to play 4-3-1-2 like in Cagliari, and I REALLY hope that will be the case, Ronaldinho is surplus, so it's worth the risk to sell him. Only if Allegri could persuade Berlu to do that. If Ronaldinho would go, it would mean Allegri clearly knows what he wants (unlike Leonardo last season), and it would be a great sign.
Oezil is FANTASTIC fit for trequartista position in 4-3-1-2, he's exactly what Allegri wants from a player on that position. That is, to have movement, to go to the side, to act as a center forward sometimes, in other words to make cohesion with two forwards... Pastore would be great also. Money from Ronaldinho should be enough for either of the two.
I will repeat what I wrote many times here, we must take risk by selling older stars for which we can take money to improve our team. Now it's the right time to sell Ronaldinho just like it was the right time to sell Pirlo two years ago.
And from what i understand we go Amelia.
Please no, this guy is not even half of himself 4 years ago.
It is OK to have Enyeama and let Storari go for 4M.
If Allegri wants to play 4-3-1-2 like in Cagliari, and I REALLY hope that will be the case, Ronaldinho is surplus, so it's worth the risk to sell him. Only if Allegri could persuade Berlu to do that. If Ronaldinho would go, it would mean Allegri clearly knows what he wants (unlike Leonardo last season), and it would be a great sign.
Oezil is FANTASTIC fit for trequartista position in 4-3-1-2, he's exactly what Allegri wants from a player on that position. That is, to have movement, to go to the side, to act as a center forward sometimes, in other words to make cohesion with two forwards... Pastore would be great also. Money from Ronaldinho should be enough for either of the two.
I will repeat what I wrote many times here, we must take risk by selling older stars for which we can take money to improve our team. Now it's the right time to sell Ronaldinho just like it was the right time to sell Pirlo two years ago.
I think so, he is the best option for AMC now. We really need him. IMO, we need a AMC the most, not SC or FB.
I will repeat what I wrote many times here, we must take risk by selling older stars for which we can take money to improve our team. Now it's the right time to sell Ronaldinho just like it was the right time to sell Pirlo two years ago.
I agree with you. With limited budget and big-money needed to rebuild a team, selling almost-30 stars will help a lot (of course not all stars). Gattuso, Pirlo (this player I am not so sure) are the examples.
If Allegri wants to play 4-3-1-2 like in Cagliari, and I REALLY hope that will be the case, Ronaldinho is surplus, so it's worth the risk to sell him. Only if Allegri could persuade Berlu to do that. If Ronaldinho would go, it would mean Allegri clearly knows what he wants (unlike Leonardo last season), and it would be a great sign.
Oezil is FANTASTIC fit for trequartista position in 4-3-1-2, he's exactly what Allegri wants from a player on that position. That is, to have movement, to go to the side, to act as a center forward sometimes, in other words to make cohesion with two forwards... Pastore would be great also. Money from Ronaldinho should be enough for either of the two.
+1
The team would also be more balanced with this formation (and even more balanced without Ronaldinho) ...
And it's the year for Pato to explode at the highest level ... as a striker !! If that happens, we'll be able to sell him for a big amount of money (60 to 80M) !!
About Ozil, I never noticed him in a game (and more especially because I don't care about Bundesliga). I really saw him for the first time against Australia. I'm interested to see how he will play against Serbia, a team a bit more organized and better than Australia ...
Is he that good with his club ?
I mean, does he often do the kind of performance he did against Australia ?
PS: Of course, I'm kidding about the last part (the sale of Pato, not about his level).
EDIT: http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=213490
It seems it's already a done deal for Storari in Juventus (4.5M). Does that means that they're going to sell Buffon ?
Milano84
17-06-2010, 17:55
About Ozil, I never noticed him in a game (and more especially because I don't care about Bundesliga). I really saw him for the first time against Australia. I'm interested to see how he will play against Serbia, a team a bit more organized and better than Australia ...
Is he that good with his club ?
I mean, does he often do the kind of performance he did against Australia ?
PS: Of course, I'm kidding about the last part (the sale of Pato, not about his level).
About Ozil. He's just 21 (turns 22 in October)
Last year:
9 goals, 12 assists in 31 league games. He filled in Diego's role as CAM in 4-2-3-1
year before he played mostly wing in same formation, because Diego took his role, had 3 goals and 12 assists in 28 games (only 20 as starter).
Werder finished 3rd last year with 71 goals (second most behind Bayern who had 72). An improvement on year before where they finished an abysmal 10th
Ozil could be gotten a little cheaper (if hype dies down), because he is out of contract in 2011 and has no desire to renew. Werder were said to sell him for 15 mil euros before world cup, but only Arsenal offered 10 mil.
For m... him + Afellay on dutch NT could be steal buys. Afellay is another creative guy who can play everywhere in midfield. Often took a deep role this year, but in post had been mostly attacking winger could be had for even less
Interesting to read about Storari, who would come, someone up and coming or another underwhelming veteran
hitmannq8
17-06-2010, 18:36
geotav, your post bout dida made me laugh so much haha... just as there are many rumours about storari being sold to Juve, unfortunately it seems like Amelia (really bad GK in past 3 years) is coming our way on a free loan.. I dont like this move, IMO Storari is better but it kinda sounds like the management need the 4m for something in the works
slifersd
17-06-2010, 19:52
geotav, your post bout dida made me laugh so much haha... just as there are many rumours about storari being sold to Juve, unfortunately it seems like Amelia (really bad GK in past 3 years) is coming our way on a free loan.. I dont like this move, IMO Storari is better but it kinda sounds like the management need the 4m for something in the works
They certainly do, we needed that money to pay off the phone, plumbers, laundry, and electricity bill.
Gabriel489
17-06-2010, 22:33
4M for the arguably the best GK in the Serie A last season. What a bargain for Juve.
Gabriel489
17-06-2010, 22:36
Even though I have only seen him play over the past months or so but this Hernandez kid from Mexico is showing great potentials. How come kids that Milan sign can't do the same?
Milano84
17-06-2010, 23:43
Even though I have only seen him play over the past months or so but this Hernandez kid from Mexico is showing great potentials. How come kids that Milan sign can't do the same?
How many kids does milan actually give a chance to? I'm not talking a 10 min cameo....
Firstly Ozil is beyond our reach..... And bringing in the Nigerian keeper as our second GK if Storari leaves would be a risk.... Alot of pressure knowing that somewhere during the course of the long campaign Abbiatti will get injured and this bloke will have to step in.
But having Dida between the sticks means risks are no longer a worry for Milan anyways.....
Gabriel489
18-06-2010, 01:21
For starter, using a non-EU spot on a backup GK is very stupid. These Non-EU spots should be use in the starting 11.
Secondly, GK should be the least of MIlan concern as what's the point of selling Stoari(best GK in Serie A in 09-10) for 4mil, if the replacement is probably going to cost the same.
Gabriel489
18-06-2010, 01:26
Sorry double posted
kastriot
18-06-2010, 02:11
They certainly do, we needed that money to pay off the phone, plumbers, laundry, and electricity bill.
I own a laundromat, I can do their laundry for free, and that way we can save enough money to keep Pippo for another year!!! :D
slifersd
18-06-2010, 02:48
I own a laundromat, I can do their laundry for free, and that way we can save enough money to keep Pippo for another year!!! :D
You are not helping, buddy!
Gabriel489
18-06-2010, 02:49
Ozil is an up and coming player, problem for MIlan is that, the whole world knows that. I doubt Milan can sign him in a race with teams like ManU, Chelsea, ManCity, Real, Barcelona, Inter, and even Juve.
rosoneri_11
18-06-2010, 04:23
Carlo wants him at Chelsea.About Ozil
http://www.footballpress.net/?action=read&idsel=62923
Jay Crisp
18-06-2010, 05:40
Ahh don't let Storari go to Juve for 4 million he's a good keeper and if he goes what do we have Abbiatti who is injury prone and Roma who hasn't played in 2 year's.Also I hope a new Dida contract is a joke , Amelia has been off form for about 2 years and bad this last year.I don't think that Milan MGT are even considering Enyeama.
Inter will open discussions with Mascherano according to English media , I dont think that Inter need him but he is a bit younger than Cambiasso and obviously would and will be an asset if he goes to Inter.
Juve have agreed a contract with Gallas okay for backup I guess but nowhere near the level he was.And they are close to Bonucci all paper talk ofcourse but Bonucci would be a good addition.
Report on sky sports say we are considering offering Ballack a 2 year contract , that would be suicide he would be 36 when it ends and would at least expect 100,000 a week please let it be bogus.
ACMILAN1983
18-06-2010, 06:19
Now Abbiati is rumoured to be possibly leaving if Milan can't guarantee a first team spot. This goalkeeping situation is a mess.
On top of all this milannews reports Milan's bugdet will increase little by little based on sales. Whilst true about our budget increasing, it's also true that sold players need replacing, so whilst the bugdet may increase, the need for investment does too.
Ahh don't let Storari go to Juve for 4 million he's a good keeper and if he goes what do we have Abbiatti who is injury prone and Roma who hasn't played in 2 year's.Also I hope a new Dida contract is a joke , Amelia has been off form for about 2 years and bad this last year.I don't think that Milan MGT are even considering Enyeama.
Inter will open discussions with Mascherano according to English media , I dont think that Inter need him but he is a bit younger than Cambiasso and obviously would and will be an asset if he goes to Inter.
Juve have agreed a contract with Gallas okay for backup I guess but nowhere near the level he was.And they are close to Bonucci all paper talk ofcourse but Bonucci would be a good addition.
Report on sky sports say we are considering offering Ballack a 2 year contract , that would be suicide he would be 36 when it ends and would at least expect 100,000 a week please let it be bogus.
I dont think Milan will buy Ballack, he want to back to Bundes Liga and that is what probably will be happen. About Amelia, i agree , I think Milan should buy Alves from Almeria, he is young ahd had a great 2 seasons and also Consigli for free (his contract expired), I would like to see Pastore or Ozil as AMC in Milan but Pastore worth too much and Ozil probably will leave for Premier League. Milan Need Italians like Marchetti, Andrea Poli but also I hope Dzeko will finally move to Milan, he will be new Shevchenko:3band:
Jay Crisp
18-06-2010, 07:09
I dont think Milan will buy Ballack, he want to back to Bundes Liga and that is what probably will be happen. About Amelia, i agree , I think Milan should buy Alves from Almeria, he is young ahd had a great 2 seasons and also Consigli for free (his contract expired), I would like to see Pastore or Ozil as AMC in Milan but Pastore worth too much and Ozil probably will leave for Premier League. Milan Need Italians like Marchetti, Andrea Poli but also I hope Dzeko will finally move to Milan, he will be new Shevchenko:3band:
Ballack is free so you know he fits the criteria and is experienced.About Ozil and Pastore they are a bit out of our reach and Dzeko is way to expensive , Alves would be good .
I have this horrible feeling that Storari will leave for 4 mil and Abbiatti for about 5 and in will come Amelia for free on a loan with a view to but and Dida will be given another year....Make 9 million spend none and Hunter will leave for about 13 million and I think that before the Mercato is over Oddo Kala and Janku will all be gone for about 5 million.
That gives us 27 million to spend but with 6 players to replace well maybe 4 players if Dida stays and Amelia comes in either way its not enough money .
Ballack is free so you know he fits the criteria and is experienced.About Ozil and Pastore they are a bit out of our reach and Dzeko is way to expensive , Alves would be good .
I have this horrible feeling that Storari will leave for 4 mil and Abbiatti for about 5 and in will come Amelia for free on a loan with a view to but and Dida will be given another year....Make 9 million spend none and Hunter will leave for about 13 million and I think that before the Mercato is over Oddo Kala and Janku will all be gone for about 5 million.
That gives us 27 million to spend but with 6 players to replace well maybe 4 players if Dida stays and Amelia comes in either way its not enough money .
The main budget that Berlusconi will give probably will be something like 30 millions and we will sell:
Huntelaar 10 Millions (but im not sure that he will leave)
Kaladze 4 Millions
Oddo 3 Millions
Flamini 10 Millions
Borrielo 15 Millions (if milan want Dzeko)
Ronaldinho 15 Millions (not sure too)
Storari 4-8 Millions (sad but possible)
and we already got money to buy Dzeko (35-40 Millions) , Gareth Bale (18 Milllions) , Alves ( 15 Millions maximum) and there is around 20 Millions left to buy good Players from Seria A, and i am sure that Allegri will bring some youth player to squad (like Verdi, Albetrazzi, Zigoni and DeVito)
:5schal:
Jay Crisp
18-06-2010, 08:11
The main budget that Berlusconi will give probably will be something like 30 millions and we will sell:
Huntelaar 10 Millions (but im not sure that he will leave)
Kaladze 4 Millions
Oddo 3 Millions
Flamini 10 Millions
Borrielo 15 Millions (if milan want Dzeko)
Ronaldinho 15 Millions (not sure too)
Storari 4-8 Millions (sad but possible)
and we already got money to buy Dzeko (35-40 Millions) , Gareth Bale (18 Milllions) , Alves ( 15 Millions maximum) and there is around 20 Millions left to buy good Players from Seria A, and i am sure that Allegri will bring some youth player to squad (like Verdi, Albetrazzi, Zigoni and DeVito)
:5schal:
I honestly think that will not happen , I want to keep Flamini and 4 million for Kaladze and 3 million for Oddo , I admire your optomism but Berlusconi has made it clear on several occassions that we have to sell to buy and there will be no other money than that.
So if I am going by your reasoning we will have 50 - 60 million to replace 7 players as Berlu has said sell to buy otherwise no budget.Ans our problem is if we sell Hunter Flamini Borriello Dinho we will not replace them with players that will make us better .
I honestly think that will not happen , I want to keep Flamini and 4 million for Kaladze and 3 million for Oddo , I admire your optomism but Berlusconi has made it clear on several occassions that we have to sell to buy and there will be no other money than that.
So if I am going by your reasoning we will have 50 - 60 million to replace 7 players as Berlu has said sell to buy otherwise no budget.Ans our problem is if we sell Hunter Flamini Borriello Dinho we will not replace them with players that will make us better .
you might be right but I think that berlucsoni isnt so stupid to not see what happen to club, he have to spend money to make future income
Jay Crisp
18-06-2010, 08:33
you might be right but I think that berlucsoni isnt so stupid to not see what happen to club, he have to spend money to make future income
Yeah you'd think , but he hasn't done much except say that Milan team is fine and should of won the scuddetto and would of if he was in charge as manager , and Im just going on what has been said about there being no transfer funds unless we sell players.He isnt stupid but is a bit out of touch 16 players over 30 about 10 over 33 and in a squad of 26 that only 16 ever play thats not good enough.But he doesnt seem bothered .
Rossoneri Fuego
18-06-2010, 11:05
is krasic still overated i hope not hahaha?!
is krasic still overated i hope not hahaha?!
If he can take some longshots, he is the second Pavel Nedved.
We need him for RCM in 4-3-1-2, his workrate & movement help us a lot, a attack-minded Gattuso.
He did great today.
Like I mentioned after the Serbia-Ghana game. I think he suffered in that game because of the formation. He was asked to play as a RM (a right wide player in a 4 man midfield across). He really struggled with that.
Today, he was playing in his more common role and made a difference. He was more advanced and that's what works for him. He can be dangerous if he gets the ball 30-35meters from the goal out wide. He can use his pace well then.Like we saw against Ghana though, when he receives the ball at the half way line, he isn't as effective and is very predictable in that formation.
Great work today by Krasic.
Some of the people in here should be banned simply for not knowing anything about football!
Saying Krasic isnt a good player after seeing him in 90 min only! come on... arent you ashamed now?
Today the man was brilliant, his speed and technique are great. Passes and crosses, great. Has a very good shot, vision... He could play in front of Pirlo-Flamini and make a grat impact in Milan, and also can be used wide.
And no, Nedved is something more, Nedved was Golden ball player, there will pass some moooore time untill we see a winger like Pavel.
Amelia in Milan from monday....
Rossoneri Fuego
18-06-2010, 12:23
lol it's ok mrki most of them don't know about the russian PL i mean it's the same league where keisuke honda, dzagoev, necid, akeenfev, play but they're ok right?, if you really want to know how good krasic is, you have to watch him in the group stages of CSKA MOSKVA, then you would have a idea, i hope amelia comes finally after about 10 years we have a good solid GK who even with marchetti might compete for italy's number 1 spot,
HAHAHAHAHAHA, I just saw a title on calciomercato " Milan, revolution in midfield". You know who will revolutionise Milan? Blasi and Lazzari... my god. We better sell huntelaar and Gattuso and invest into one decent player like Montolivo who is now ready for big things.
Allegri, good luck to you...
ZvonimirBoban
18-06-2010, 12:40
ozil is just like another ribery; have no good players around him and he'll shut himself down. a good player but not enough to turn the game alone by himself.
ozil is just like another ribery; have no good players around him and he'll shut himself down. a good player but not enough to turn the game alone by himself.
Don't compare Ozil to the overrated Ribéry (can't make the difference by himself when it is needed in a big game, and he has no talent to play as a playmaker, can't make great passes) ...
IMO, if Ozil isn't better than Ribéry, he's not worth wearing the black and red shirt ...
Don't compare Ozil to the overrated Ribéry (can't make the difference by himself when it is needed in a big game, and he has no talent to play as a playmaker, can't make great passes) ...
IMO, if Ozil isn't better than Ribéry, he's not worth wearing the black and red shirt ...
You're a little harsh :D. Ribery is overrated for being compared with Zidane, but they belong to two different types, sharing only dribbling skill. Ribery is fast, Zidane isn't (wasn't) but he possessed all the technique (even some defensive ones).
However, Ribery is still one of the best runners with the ball.
Özil, IMO is more of AMC, playmaker. He is better at passing the ball and creativity but Ribery's breakthrough is better.
Why all the talk about players we won't sign??
Are only possible good signings will involve a transfer dealing with a player like the hunter or similiar.
If Napoli are interested I'd try a swap with Santacroce and rip up Yepes contract.
Why all the talk about players we won't sign??
Are only possible good signings will involve a transfer dealing with a player like the hunter or similiar.
If Napoli are interested I'd try a swap with Santacroce and rip up Yepes contract.
Even a normal summer mercato's thread is now a fantasy signing's thread for us! Pffff! :pr78:
Is it time to rename this thread 'Free transfers 2010'? ;)
Is it time to rename this thread 'Free transfers 2010'? ;)
Or fantastic or just wanted Mercato
Krasic is very good, Ozil is nice, Ribery is excellent but none of them will come to us...
Storari to Juve for 4 m you didn;t mention it?
Anyone with an extended opinion on Eljero Elia????
I've seen him a few times in Germany and only a couple of times for the Dutch. Always thought he can be great within the right circumstances, but I feel like I haven't seen enough to mark him as the next big winger comming from the Netherlands. He definitely has talent.
Anyone here that's seen a lot of him? If so can you give us an opinion?
*By the way we are not linked to him or anything, but I would just like to know more about the player. I will defninitely keep an eye on him myself too.
Eljero Elia, could be a blast....or just another Ryan Babel
Is it time to rename this thread 'Free transfers 2010'? ;)
I would suggest to just close this thread.
Trust me guys, nothing will happen & no one will come till the world cup is over, not even the free ones. How can you guys expect some to to come when the free players like Joe Cole, Ballack, that ex-Bordoux Morrocon striker who is now @ Arsenal & Metzelder have already been missed by ACM. Visiting this thread will just raise your B.P levels high. Infect the more possible news you would get here would be like d!da :googly: getting a new contract & Pato leaving etc :hmmm:
Just enjoy the World Cup, as you won't see anything like this for the next four years. Mercatos come twice a season, not a big deal.
Even B&G must be enjoying the world cup some where together :hug: :beer: :beach: :cheers: :p155: :1five: :kotc:
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/06/19/1984314/milan-eye-barcelona-owned-defender-martin-caceres-sevillas
OH COME ON!!!!!!! Not fabiano again, we dont need 30 Years old Player, we need someone much younger, and if he is the "World Class Signing" that Berlusconi promised to us, it is so SUCK!!!:mad:
and Caceres will be fine if he join on loan, in Juve he did well
Milan sumer mercato 19.06.2010
official announcement : Ac Milan are steel withaut coach :googly:
hi everyone, its been a long time for me..
anyway a few thoughts,i think its about time to realise we need a lot more than just 2-3 players,for once more Galiani must leave,imo he cannot contibute anything to this club anymore,as he has no good relations with any team in the world after all these years..
about players,krasic would certainly be gr8 for us,he is talented,motivated and wants to play in italy..someone said about montolivo,THAT would be awsome he is excactly the type of player we need now as rignho and pirlo are loosing pace and motivation..moreover its more thanlikely he will leave fio without pradelli(who was a gr8 target too btw,but no..).
fabiano seems to be a little slower(reactions)than previous years,but again we dont have anyone better that half of him..
we obviously still need a f** lb(like we did the last 3-4 years) and maybe a gk,amelia btw was the worst serie a's keeper last year..
ps1 have you noticed gooch on the wc??i think we were too harsh on him,he is doing far better than favalli at least..
Bosniaco
19-06-2010, 09:01
Adiyah is playing for Ghana in the first team line up, got see him play.
hitmannq8
19-06-2010, 09:19
Preziosi: "There is an agreement with Milan. Amelia will join Milan and do his medical on Monday."
It is believed that it would be a loan with an option to buy at the end of the season.
Adiyiah is on the field against Australia, 20 minutes so far and he's done nothing..
Preziosi: "There is an agreement with Milan. Amelia will join Milan and do his medical on Monday."
It is believed that it would be a loan with an option to buy at the end of the season.
Adiyiah is on the field against Australia, 20 minutes so far and he's done nothing..
Where is he ?! Failed to recognize him (this WC allows us to discover our own players ...), and can't figure out what is his position !!
EDIT: On Eurosport, he isn't in the starting line up ... so I can check as long as I want, I'll fail to see him !!
I dont see Adiyah either.
Lets hope that Adiyiah will be impressive like Enyema (but in the attack of course :))
hitmannq8
19-06-2010, 09:38
whoops me and Bosniaco did the same mistake, it was a mistake from channel that presented the starting lineup..I confused him with the other striker.. my bad
btw, even Dutch NT doesn't seem to have enough faith in Huntelaar...... only came on the 88th minute today (and nearly assisted a goal to be fair)
Filipéz 182
19-06-2010, 10:36
Official: Milan reach agreement over Amelia
Posted by Meytar Zeevi on Jun 19, 2010 | 9 Comments
MARCO AMELIA will join Milan on loan.
Genoa’s Chairman, Enrico Preziosi have confirmed 28-year-old goalkeeper, Amelia, will undergo medical check-ups on Monday and Tuesday, before putting pen to paper and joining the Rossoneri on a free 1-year loan deal.
“We have already shaken hands,” told President Preziosi. “On Monday he will undergo a medical and on Tuesday he will be declared a Milan player.”
Storari to pen Juventus deal on Monday
Milan legend backs Allegri for Milan success
Amelia will be the second signing of AC Milan this summer, after il Diavolo have secured the services of 34-year-old defender Mario Yepes for free.
In order to buy, Milan need to sell, thus, Mario Storari will join Juventus for €4.5 million and Marco Amelia will sign a Milan contract.
Official: Milan reach agreement over Amelia
Posted by Meytar Zeevi on Jun 19, 2010 | 9 Comments
MARCO AMELIA will join Milan on loan.
Genoa’s Chairman, Enrico Preziosi have confirmed 28-year-old goalkeeper, Amelia, will undergo medical check-ups on Monday and Tuesday, before putting pen to paper and joining the Rossoneri on a free 1-year loan deal.
“We have already shaken hands,” told President Preziosi. “On Monday he will undergo a medical and on Tuesday he will be declared a Milan player.”
Storari to pen Juventus deal on Monday
Milan legend backs Allegri for Milan success
Amelia will be the second signing of AC Milan this summer, after il Diavolo have secured the services of 34-year-old defender Mario Yepes for free.
In order to buy, Milan need to sell, thus, Mario Storari will join Juventus for €4.5 million and Marco Amelia will sign a Milan contract.
I am not sure that Amelia that right Goalkeeper for us
Amelia is among the big list of players who were very promising and never exploded to reach the highest level ... It's probably his last chance.
The fact that it would just be a loan, with an option to buy him if I'm not wrong, is good because if he finally explodes (if he plays because I think he will start as the 2nd Gk in the hierarchy), we'll have a very good GK and not too old. If he doesn't manage to improve, he'll go back to his club and will probably never become the very good GK he could have been after his promising young years.
It looks like the sale of Storari is going to finance the purchase of Lazzari as it seems he is valued to 6M, and as a consequence, that would mean that the arrival of this player would be paid thanks to the money earned with the sale of Storari and the money saved in our wages budget (with the end of contract of Dida).
So, if any other player leaves, that will mean we have some targets on the mercato.
Gabriel489
19-06-2010, 11:22
Sad that a club such as Milan needs to sell a player in order to finance the purchase of another player value at 6mil.
We don't need too, we are justing being forced to by our crooked owners, who need to money for fertility drugs, botox, hip replacements, and to pay the church for all their sins on their death bed as there's no way they'll get to heaven without a major contribution to the church funds.
Also the owner's ***** daughter has convinced ?? wtf?? How?? not to spend money on Milan as it's cutting into her inheritance. Get a real job you lackie *****.
Amelia came for free on loan, so did Yepes.
Amelia to replace Dida, Yepes to replace Favalli...
If Caceres replaces Oddo as they say ( on loan deal again ) and we add Hleb on loan deal as well... that means we have spent nothing again.
Lazzarri will come with Allegri sopposedly, he will cost 8mln or something.
Those players are a SMALL step up for us. If we add one Cf like Fabiano and one Cb who will replace Kaladze, also Marek will leave... we can say we'll have stronger Milan then this year.
BUT, we have again spent nothing and that team will not be good enough for highest results.
However my hope is that Silvio will insert some money and Milan will maybe BUY one player that is actually worthy of Milan's shirt, A player like Ibrahimovic or Torres ( all the talk about one big player, bla, bla...)
It is ABSOLUTELY necessary to sign a GOOD CB when we sell Kaladze, a player that is reliable and can play when NEsta is tired. Player like Mexes, Ranocchia etc.
Hleb can be useful, I consider him a good move for a load deal!
But the thing Moggi said is absolutely true, Ibrahimovic with Pato and Dinho would be something that would open up soo much space for any other player around them that it would be something that would make us dominate serie for sure.
Amelia came for free on loan, so did Yepes.
Amelia to replace Dida, Yepes to replace Favalli...
If Caceres replaces Oddo as they say ( on loan deal again ) and we add Hleb on loan deal as well... that means we have spent nothing again.
Lazzarri will come with Allegri sopposedly, he will cost 8mln or something.
Those players are a SMALL step up for us. If we add one Cf like Fabiano and one Cb who will replace Kaladze, also Marek will leave... we can say we'll have stronger Milan then this year.
BUT, we have again spent nothing and that team will not be good enough for highest results.
However my hope is that Silvio will insert some money and Milan will maybe BUY one player that is actually worthy of Milan's shirt, A player like Ibrahimovic or Torres ( all the talk about one big player, bla, bla...)
It is ABSOLUTELY necessary to sign a GOOD CB when we sell Kaladze, a player that is reliable and can play when NEsta is tired. Player like Mexes, Ranocchia etc.
Hleb can be useful, I consider him a good move for a load deal!
But the thing Moggi said is absolutely true, Ibrahimovic with Pato and Dinho would be something that would open up soo much space for any other player around them that it would be something that would make us dominate serie for sure.
We don't have the midfielders for these players to create space for.
We don't even have the mid to play counter-attacking play.
Frankly unless we get 2/3 players like Jucilei, Ganso - creative, box to box players next season will be no different to the last few.
Slow, unbalanced, predictable, and poor. Just like our transfer policy.
slifersd
19-06-2010, 14:24
Sad that a club such as Milan needs to sell a player in order to finance the purchase of another player value at 6mil.
Count your blessings. At least we didn't have to sell two players for over 80 million to fund the 15 million Huntelaar.
Count your blessings. At least we didn't have to sell two players for over 80 million to fund the 15 million Huntelaar.
The summer is young.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Christian
19-06-2010, 18:02
Amelia is among the big list of players who were very promising and never exploded to reach the highest level ... It's probably his last chance.
The fact that it would just be a loan, with an option to buy him if I'm not wrong, is good because if he finally explodes (if he plays because I think he will start as the 2nd Gk in the hierarchy), we'll have a very good GK and not too old. If he doesn't manage to improve, he'll go back to his club and will probably never become the very good GK he could have been after his promising young years.
It looks like the sale of Storari is going to finance the purchase of Lazzari as it seems he is valued to 6M, and as a consequence, that would mean that the arrival of this player would be paid thanks to the money earned with the sale of Storari and the money saved in our wages budget (with the end of contract of Dida).
So, if any other player leaves, that will mean we have some targets on the mercato.
Exactly, it's a good move imo.
Amelia is indeed very talented, but does seem to have problems off the field. At least I seem to remember him getting in fights with alot of coaches. Nevertheless this increases our budget by 5 Million, and gives us an option to buy Amelia (At least I think), a young goalkeeper, if he turns out to be a succes, which he very well could be.
About Ibrahimovic, I can't think off any better partner for Pato. It actually could happen, but is probably unlikely. Afterall Man City did loan out Robinho (The most expensive EPL player ever), so it's not impossible for a player as expensive as Zlatan to be loaned out. The question is just if Barcelona really are gonna try and give him a year more by pushing Villa to the LW.
Personally I think it would be a crime for Barcelona to push out Pedro from the starting 11 and push Bojan further away, but no one knows what this new Barca president is like.
I know that many of us had better options in mind, but the Amelia move is a good one.... Storari was never coming back as long as there was strong interest from other clubs anyways.
This deal is of a player who has heaps of potential but with us taking no risks if it doesn't work out. Furthermore, the deal will most likely leave Abbiatti happy as well, so we can keep both for next season.
But who here would prefer Diego Alves and Amelia?
Rossoneri Fuego
19-06-2010, 19:47
Diego Alves i herd is great but lol i also remember Amelia blocking ronaldinho's penalties lolol, he's one hell of a keeper i know marchetti is the future of italy but without a doubt 3rd in command should be Amelia, great signing super keeper
Rossoneri Fuego
19-06-2010, 19:59
AC Milan Set Sights On Barcelona Duo Aliaksandr Hleb & Martin Caceres - Report
The Rossoneri are looking to shop in Catalonia...
www.goal.com
AC Milan are interested in acquiring the services of Barcelona duo Aliaksandr Hleb And Martin Caceres, according to Italian publication Leggo.
The Italian giants are in the market for reinforcements as they plan to mount serious challenges in Serie A and the Champions League.
Hleb was expected to move to Inter as part of the deal which took Zlatan Ibrahimovic to Barcelona, but the Belarusian declined a transfer to the Giuseppe Meazza. He instead took up a loan stint at Stuttgart, where he had previously spent five years, helping Die Roten reach the Champions League round of 16.
Caceres, who is part of Uruguay's squad at the World Cup, spent the season on loan at Juventus, who opted against a permanent deal for the 23-year-old.
Both players are not part of Pep Guardiola's squad plans at Barcelona and could be interested in a new challenge at Milan, with whom the Blaugrana have a good relationship following the transfers of Gianluca Zambrotta and Ronaldinho in 2008.
sorry if it's been posted already ....
btw, even Dutch NT doesn't seem to have enough faith in Huntelaar...... only came on the 88th minute today (and nearly assisted a goal to be fair)
Down fall of the Dutch has just started. RVP will 100% choke when they need goals desperately.
Carceres is alright, especially knowing that we need a full-back... However he is very injury prone and not someone I think we should invest in. If he was on loan again then we should be interested, but it seems Barca want to get rid of him for good.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2010/06/19/1985399/edin-dzeko-edges-closer-to-exit-door-as-wolfsburg-eye-up
I hope milan will buy Dzeko now and not Ibra, Dzeko is the future, Ibra is the past. Lets Hope in the summer Dzeko will be Rossoneri!
Jay Crisp
20-06-2010, 03:51
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2010/06/19/1985399/edin-dzeko-edges-closer-to-exit-door-as-wolfsburg-eye-up
I hope milan will buy Dzeko now and not Ibra, Dzeko is the future, Ibra is the past. Lets Hope in the summer Dzeko will be Rossoneri!
Hope springs eternal , I think we'll get a few new p;layers but not Dzeko i'd like him and he would work but 40 million is a figure that we are not prepared and honestly not able to pay now.Milan dont have that sort money to spend now its a hell of alot of money and I just can't see it happening...although I know you said hope and i hope too.
Hope springs eternal , I think we'll get a few new p;layers but not Dzeko i'd like him and he would work but 40 million is a figure that we are not prepared and honestly not able to pay now.Milan dont have that sort money to spend now its a hell of alot of money and I just can't see it happening...although I know you said hope and i hope too.
Dzeko, 24 had a price tag of £35 million but it now looks like Wolfsburg will not receive more than £28 million for the player, who has netted an impressive 56 goals in 94 league for the club and 15 times in 24 appearances for the Bosnian national side.
Arildonardo
20-06-2010, 06:46
Ibrahimovic wants to come to Milan?
http://www.football-italia.net/jun20f.html
Rossoneri Fuego
20-06-2010, 08:16
Sao Paulo defender Miranda in AC Milan sights
tribalfootball.com
Sao Paulo defender Joao Miranda remains a target for AC Milan.
Milan have been tracking Miranda for over 18 months.
The 25-year-old has been one of the best performers in Brazil's Serie A and knows all about Milan's Thiago Silva.
Milan are weighing up moving for either Miranda or Velez Sarsfield's highly rated young centre-back Nicolas Otamendi this summer.
i rather get otamendi whose younger and can play as wideback also
Rossoneri Fuego
20-06-2010, 08:17
Ibrahimovic wants to come to Milan?
http://www.football-italia.net/jun20f.html
god i hope this is right I DONT WANT F****** luis fabiano!
We can't afford either player. Ibra is on something like either 8 or 12 million a year, never mind the transfer fee.
Berlu wouldn't sanction such a move, despite his big name signing speech a while back esp as he wants all players on less than 4 mill a year. No big player would player for that.
Rojo y Negro
20-06-2010, 10:08
Watching the Italy v New Zealand game. Criscito is looking rather average at left back. On the other hand zambrotta is looking lively
it seems we talk to juve alot recently, why dont milan try to strike a deal for Giovinco?
it seems we talk to juve alot recently, why dont milan try to strike a deal for Giovinco?
what for? Milan need to returen to 2-1-3-4 formation , without any winger, because ronaldinho to slow and better in middle ( got a lot of space) and pato is a forward that need to score but not winger/ Giovinco isnt super playmaker , better on flangs (because fast)
Jay Crisp
20-06-2010, 13:06
what for? Milan need to returen to 2-1-3-4 formation , without any winger, because ronaldinho to slow and better in middle ( got a lot of space) and pato is a forward that need to score but not winger/ Giovinco isnt super playmaker , better on flangs (because fast)
Because some people are being realistic , and do mean dinho is better in the middle .....have you seen him in the middle ?? he is not good there tried and failed , and Dzeko will not gor £28 million which is stll slightly over 30 million EUROS.
Give Verdi & Oudamendi a chance. Our midfield needs the most work, not the att.
We need 3 new players in mid, possbily 4, esp if we can get rid of gattuso.
Strasser will be a good addition, but others like Jucilei, Goulan and an att mid are needed.
I think Abate should play in mid this season as he has the engine to play box to box and is competitive.
hitmannq8
20-06-2010, 14:32
it seems we talk to juve alot recently, why dont milan try to strike a deal for Giovinco?
I have been thinking about that for a while now... a Hunter-Giovinco swap can be quite great. I remember they wanted Boriello too, even a Giovinco-Boriello swap can be great for us.
We must try to get Giovinco. He is a great, great player and just needs a new environment. He wants to leave Juve and he is young and Italian, he'd rather join an Italian team. He wouldn't go to Inter, and now that Juve-Milan relations are good, I think a Milan move for him would be ideal. I would actually consider splashing out the cash on him (given that we cover other areas).
Actually - come to think of it - I would rather Giovinco over Ganso(who I really think is not that good).
Woah I cant stop thinking about it now, sell R80, sell Borriello/Hunter, bring in Giovinco and maybe a lil cash from Berlu for Ibrahimovic.
Ladies & Gentlemen, I give you
Giovinco - Ibra - Pato
:noevil2:
then I remembered that we are linked Trezeguet, Blasi and Brocchi and just signed Amelia and Yepes after being linked with Marchetti, Alves, Miranda, Otamendi, Mexes... u just wonder how the summer's gonna end :p146:
omg fabiano just scored a crazy goal (but he used his arm TWICE)
fabiano is amazing tonight..
but we have champion boriello whos is not even there,although with all due respect i think lippi has done and is still doing horrible mistakes,i cannot believe my eyes..
I heard Milan have signed Marco Amelia as first choice keeper for next season on loan with an option to purchase in 2011. Not a bad move although Marchetti or Lloris could also have been good options. Anyway...I am not complaining.
Yes, we signed Amelia on-loan with a right to purchase, its on the Genoa website. But i doubt he will be the first choice, rather he will be an understudy to Abbiatti, hope fully Amelia returns back to his original form like he was 3 years back.....
Another rumour - Milan is being linked to Lanzafame at last ----- OOOOh I just like this lad, he is really talented....go get him Milan. Lanzafame, Poli, Cigarini, Santon would have been good additions...
Also Juve is stammering a bit on the Krasic deal, if and only if B&G could sabotage this and get him for Milan for cheap.....would have been great !!!
BTW - No Ibra pleeez......I would rather have Ambrosini as striker thanks.
hitmannq8
21-06-2010, 02:25
Milannews reports that Milan are in South Africa tonight to watch Veloso in the Portugal - N.Korea match. It is reported that Veloso was requested by Allegri. His price last year was 30m euros, now they say it is about 13m.
I've seen both players and I think Hernanes is a much better player. I would even rather someone a little more defensive like Jucilei because the guy is pure class..Veloso I'm not too sure of. He reminds me of Tiago (Juventus).
Milannews reports that Milan are in South Africa tonight to watch Veloso in the Portugal - N.Korea match. It is reported that Veloso was requested by Allegri. His price last year was 30m euros, now they say it is about 13m.
I've seen both players and I think Hernanes is a much better player. I would even rather someone a little more defensive like Jucilei because the guy is pure class..Veloso I'm not too sure of. He reminds me of Tiago (Juventus).
Since I saw Veloso playing, I wanted him in Milan, he got good free kicks, longshots, and he can be deep lying playmaker and also he can do defensive work, but i didnt saw him much this season so dont really know what his form rigth now
we are linked again to migul veloso, i still dont mind him, expecially if we get rid of the gat.
Rossoneri Fuego
21-06-2010, 02:40
that would be perfect veloso is the real deal seen him alott e portugal, high work rate and rarely injured plus only 24
we dont need a new players we have:Antonini,Onuevu,Yepes,Abate,Flamini,Rino,Di genaro,Verdi ,Straser :D
we need a coach ? back in the history how long period ac milan have been withaut coach ?
Jay Crisp
21-06-2010, 05:27
Yeah still no manager thought they wanted Allegri ?? he is now free for 4 days but no Allegri , is he on holidays ??.
And we do need players , we'll have to see if they will arrive or not. Im not sayinmg we need 6 new players for 30 million ...but we do need about 6. I guess we have 2 in Yepes and Amelia...although I am not happy with these Yepes was good with Chievo but he is 34 and now has his last 2 year contract with AC Milan so he's happy...Amelia had potential but has been bad for 2 years now bouncing from club to club to club to club in the last 3 years.
Juve have a meeting with Bari today to try and get Bonucci.
Yeah still no manager thought they wanted Allegri ?? he is now frr for 4 days but no Allegri , is he on holidays ??.
Cellino (again) postponed his meeting with Allegri this time. Allegri should have signed the papers allowing him to quit Cagliari this W-E, but Cellino never joined him. It looks like it should happen today or the next few days.
Anyway, Cellino is a weird character ...
i think milan made an offer 4 otamendi. around 1o mil. can anyone confirm this.
i think milan made an offer 4 otamendi. around 1o mil. can anyone confirm this.
I read that too ... but to confirm, we should be Galliani himself !! :D
Jay Crisp
21-06-2010, 06:28
Cellino (again) postponed his meeting with Allegri this time. Allegri should have signed the papers allowing him to quit Cagliari this W-E, but Cellino never joined him. It looks like it should happen today or the next few days.
Anyway, Cellino is a weird character ...
I see its taking a looooooooooooooong time , but he will be our coach.
I see its taking a looooooooooooooong time , but he will be our coach.
Yes, it's too much ... Cellino wanted to "play" with us by postponing meetings/calls with Galliani, but once they agree, I can't understand why he still postpones the meeting with Allegri. It's useless and childish, and that comes from a president of a club. I can't understand (if someone understands that, please explain me because right now, it looks ridiculous in my opinion).
Actually, if not for this unprofessional behaviour, I still do not know who the f**** Cellino is :D
Jay Crisp
21-06-2010, 08:14
He knows he had a good up and coming coach , and that now he is gone he is being petty a real asshat.
Wow, Potugal 7 - 0 North korea , and Miguel Veloso assists the last goal to tiago
Filipéz 182
21-06-2010, 10:05
Milan veterans refuse to leave
Posted by Meytar Zeevi on Jun 21, 2010 | Leave a Comment
OFFERS arrive but they are consistently saying no.
AC Milan have decided that in order to buy players, other should go. The Rossoneri have also decided they would like to buy a fullback and a defender this summer. However, these plans are stuck, thanks to two players.
The one is Kakha Kaladze. The 33-year-old Georgian had seen very little of the pitch during the last season, and AC Milan have made it very clear that the center back is not in their plans for the next season.
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Kaladze’s contract was widely improved in 2007, and he’s not interested to leave. Kaladze has said no to Rubin Kazan, to Napoli, to Parma and to the request of Andriy Shevchenko to join him at Dynamo Kyiv.
The other player is Marek Jankulovski. Like Kaladze, Janku didn’t take part in the most on AC Milan 09/10 campaign and it is unlikely that the left-back will be playing next season, thanks to the good form of Luca Antonini.
Janku was offered to Inter in January as part of Amantino Mancini deal and also to Wolfsburg, to decrease the requested money for Edin Dzeko. The reason for his refusal is not money in this case, but his honour.
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