Summer Mercato

[drucurl]

hope this is not another Suazo fiasco :yuck:

[Gabriel489]

Where did u get this info?

[ThrusT]

Berlusconi and Galliani want the deal to be closed today, I'm expecting an official announcement in the evening.
When reading the reports I believe the price will be between 20 and 25 milion Euros. We have apparently raised our offer to satisfy Laporta.

[Vulli]

Source? U sure?


La gazzetta dello sport and tuttomercato :3band:

[almilan]

Thanks looks good fingers crossed!

[Giancarlo]

Ronaldinho is Rosonero - For the announcement, is a matter of hours, perhaps minutes

Make it minutes and it better happen soon... I'm getting anxious here...

Anyways guys, there was a tragedy in Italy today...Gionata Mingozzi, a rising talent in Italy, midfielder, was killed in a car crash on his way to a medical.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=555332&sec=europe&&cc=5901

:(

[Mr. Anonymous]

Berlusconi and Galliani want the deal to be closed today, I'm expecting an official announcement in the evening.
When reading the reports I believe the price will be between 20 and 25 milion Euros. We have apparently raised our offer to satisfy Laporta.

Barca did a really good job if they got 25 Million outta us for this guy...cause that's a ton and could explain why Galiani came out of the meeting with that messed "i've been taken for a ride and slapped without a kiss" type look on his face.

The Mercato will be closed if we spent 25 Million on this guy!

[marcovb]

È praticamente tutto fatto per il trasferimento del brasiliano in rossonero. L'accordo è stato trovato da Galliani e Laporta per una cifra attorno ai 20 milioni di euro. In serata il vicepresidente rossonero rientrerà in Italia insieme al giocatore che domani sarà ufficialmente presentato a Milanello


Benvenuto Ronaldinho!!!!!!!!

Now with the two best offensive players in the world Borriello can be the next Serie A top scorer

but if it will go wrong i think he is thew last player that will come to Milan from spain

[Hasan Rossonero]

Make it minutes and it better happen soon... I'm getting anxious here...

Anyways guys, there was a tragedy in Italy today...Gionata Mingozzi, a rising talent in Italy, midfielder, was killed in a car crash on his way to a medical.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=555332&sec=europe&&cc=5901

:(

Sad indeed. RIP.

[Giancarlo]

È praticamente tutto fatto per il trasferimento del brasiliano in rossonero. L'accordo è stato trovato da Galliani e Laporta per una cifra attorno ai 20 milioni di euro. In serata il vicepresidente rossonero rientrerà in Italia insieme al giocatore che domani sarà ufficialmente presentato a Milanello


Benvenuto Ronaldinho!!!!!!!!

Now with the two best offensive players in the world Borriello can be the next Serie A top scorer

but if it will go wrong i think he is thew last player that will come to Milan from spain

20 million is a respectable fee for both sides... it's not too much for Milan, and not too little for Laporta and Barca... it'll save face with both sides... as being adequate.

[Vulli]

It's the final countdown

I can't believe this I'am soo happy

[Hasan Rossonero]

the final countdown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZkllM8znx4

[Gabriel489]

well, anyone does MIlan have to pay in full or and pay in installments?

[marcovb]

20 million is a respectable fee for both sides... it's not too much for Milan, and not too little for Laporta and Barca... it'll save face with both sides... as being adequate.

I totally agree with you
it's seems thou it's 18.5 mlns plus bonuses

L'accordo verrà trovato da Galliani e Laporta su una cifra vicina ai 18,5 milioni più alcuni bonus. Al giocatore un triennale da 6,5 milioni.

[Giancarlo]

well, anyone does MIlan have to pay in full or and pay in installments?

Yeah I'm wondering that too.

Either way, it seems like this has been a very satisfactory transfer season... I know previous ones have let us down, but we have something to smile about this year.

[Gabriel489]

well, if Milan can manage to spread this 20M or so in three years, they could still have money to spend on Zapata or Adebayor.

[Giancarlo]

well, if Milan can manage to spread this 20M or so in three years, they could still have money to spend on Zapata or Adebayor.

Agreed... I wonder if it is by year payments... if it is in that format, this transfer season is definitely not over. I hear though Milan would give 10 million up front (and pay rest later)... but never heard anything else about that.

[marcovb]

well, if Milan can manage to spread this 20M or so in three years, they could still have money to spend on Zapata or Adebayor.

but i don't think it will be for this year
Galliani always said Dinho OR Ade
maybe plus Sheva

e poi mercato chiuso

[Vulli]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZkllM8znx4

:rock3: :cheers: :3band:

[Giancarlo]

but i don't think it will be for this year
Galliani always said Dinho OR Ade
maybe plus Sheva

e poi mercato chiuso

If we could get Sheva on loan, I would not be against that despite my bitterness regarding him. It's important to have additional strikers, so we don't end up with a crisis like we had for part of the previous season.

But you know guys, We had a very productive mercato this year... compare us (where we only qualified for UEFA Cup) to Juve that declared its squad is complete though they qualified for the CL (plus the extra money that comes with that)... we did better than they did, even with less money.

[Mr. Anonymous]

well, anyone does MIlan have to pay in full or and pay in installments?

Forget that and just enjoy the fact that he's finally coming.:5ok:

Worry about all those other things later. Enjoy the moment MILAN FANS!!!:delol:

[Vulli]

Ronaldinho will land in Milan around 21.30 The presentation will be of course tomorrow afternoon at Milanello.


:1ole::1ole:

[Vulli]

I' am Registered at MM on 15th of july 2007 and today is one year that I am here, so I' am happy that I can "CELEBRATE" with a dream come true transfer Ronaldinho :5schal:

[marcovb]

If we could get Sheva on loan, I would not be against that despite my bitterness regarding him. It's important to have additional strikers, so we don't end up with a crisis like we had for part of the previous season.

But you know guys, We had a very productive mercato this year... compare us (where we only qualified for UEFA Cup) to Juve that declared its squad is complete though they qualified for the CL (plus the extra money that comes with that)... we did better than they did, even with less money.

I think that too
Sheva can come back but only for no money and less money for his wage
I wonder if boriello will stay if sheva will come too

:3band::3band::3band::3band::3band::3band:

[Giancarlo]

Ronaldinho will land in Milan around 21.30 The presentation will be of course tomorrow afternoon at Milanello.


:1ole::1ole:

YES! That's great! TAKE THAT THAKSIN (you're always invited to watch him play in the San Siro lol)...

Edit: According to goal.crap, Barca is gonna rejoin the Arshavin race... I wonder why heheh..

http://www.goal.com/en-US/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=777564

[drucurl]

YES! That's great! TAKE THAT THAKSIN (you're always invited to watch him play in the San Siro lol)...

Edit: According to goal.crap, Barca is gonna rejoin the Arshavin race... I wonder why heheh.. Do we play vs ManCity soon....hope he's there and scores a hattrick lmao!!

[marcovb]

Come on
city never had a chance to sign him
they don't have a team for Dinho

Why he would go there?
he is a smart kid he's only 28, he knows how to choose

not even drunk whould have agreed to their offer

it was only laporta that had take them in consideration

[Giancarlo]

Do we play vs ManCity soon....hope he's there and scores a hattrick lmao!!

We play against them on Aug 9th... oh damn it... the summer olympics are from aug 7-23rd.

[Giancarlo]

Come on
city never had a chance to sign him
they don't have a team for Dinho

Why he would go there?
he is a smart kid he's only 28, he knows how to choose

not even drunk whould have agreed to their offer

it was only laporta that had take them in consideration

Too true... there is nothing there for him. Man City couldn't even break into the top 4 in the EPL if they tried. They got beaten 8-1 in a game I think against Portsmouth. LOL.

[drucurl]

We play against them on Aug 9th... oh damn it... the summer olympics are from aug 7-23rd.We should BAN him from goin to the Olympics :o

[Giancarlo]

We should BAN him from goin to the Olympics :o

I know I know but hey there is always the chance we'll see Man City in the UEFA cup. I don't get why they even qualified... they were in 9th place in their league...

[Siregar]

Milan should ban R10 from going to China if milan sign him as R10 needs to train LOTS!

[Russo-Neri]

Now that we got Dinho, I actually am hoping we land Sheva on loan...

[marcovb]

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Tuttomercatoweb continua la sua "maratona Ronaldinho" per tutti i tifosi rossoneri e gli amanti del calcio: questa sera, a partire dalla 21, l'home page del nostro sito offrirà una diretta scritta dall'aereoporto di Linate, aspettando l'arrivo del fuoriclasse brasiliano minuto per minuto, senza perdere neanche una battuta di quello che per anni è stato il sogno di milioni di tifosi.


from el mundo deportivo

Ciao Ronnie!

:3band::3band::3band:

[Mr. Anonymous]

Come on
city never had a chance to sign him
they don't have a team for Dinho

Why he would go there?
he is a smart kid he's only 28, he knows how to choose

not even drunk whould have agreed to their offer

it was only laporta that had take them in consideration

But they made us sweat for a while and made things very difficult and probably caused Milan to spend a little more than they wanted.

[Giancarlo]

But they made us sweat for a while and made things very difficult and probably caused Milan to spend a little more than they wanted.

I was always confident that Man City had no chance at all. I never did sweat when they mentioned anything. I hope we do face them in the UEFA Cup though, and teach them a lesson.

If they were serious about it, they would have sent agents... not an email to Barcelona.

[Giancarlo]

Milan should ban R10 from going to China if milan sign him as R10 needs to train LOTS!

I'm tending to agree with you... and I want to see him play that friendly against Man City. The irony. But hey Thaksin would get what he wants... Ronnie playing in Man City... lol... on the other side.

[Siregar]

from tuttomercatoweb
Tuttomercatoweb continua la sua "maratona Ronaldinho" per tutti i tifosi rossoneri e gli amanti del calcio: questa sera, a partire dalla 21, l'home page del nostro sito offrirà una diretta scritta dall'aereoporto di Linate, aspettando l'arrivo del fuoriclasse brasiliano minuto per minuto, senza perdere neanche una battuta di quello che per anni è stato il sogno di milioni di tifosi.


from el mundo deportivo

Ciao Ronnie!

:3band::3band::3band:

He? R10 changes his mind? Really?

[Hasan Rossonero]

I was always confident that Man City had no chance at all. I never did sweat when they mentioned anything. I hope we do face them in the UEFA Cup though, and teach them a lesson.

If they were serious about it, they would have sent agents... not an email to Barcelona.
What lesson would we exactly teach them? Don't bid for players? Don't be silly man. They have every right to bid.

[Giancarlo]

What lesson would we exactly teach them? Don't bid for players? Don't be silly man. They have every right to bid.

LOL... come on... I know they do... but don't try to compete with us ;)

I just don't like drama, and them getting involved caused some of it...

[marcovb]

He? R10 changes his mind? Really?

Ciao 'probably' more like an arrivederci or addio

[Siregar]

LOL... come on... I know they do... but don't try to compete with us ;)

I just don't like drama, and them getting involved caused some of it...

What they do is a fair competition. It's extremely fair. So, I dont care what City did. It's their right to do that.

If Milan then have to pay more to buy R10 due to City's bid then the 'winner' is Barca.

[marcovb]

probably caused Milan to spend a little more than they wanted.

that's exactly what they did
they caused Milan to pay 3.5 mlns more

[Giancarlo]

If Milan then have to pay more to buy R10 due to City's bid then the 'winner' is Barca.

Yeah they have a right to do that... but we had to pay a bit more for Ronaldinho...

No big deal... we got him now and we should be happy!

[Mr. Anonymous]

that's exactly what they did
they caused Milan to pay 3.5 mlns more

It's still a steal.:v46:

Party time people.
:djn:

[drucurl]

It's still a steal

Party time people.
:djn:Just don't invite Ronaldinho.....he should be on the treadmill :D

[Milano84]

If borriello can't net 20 with dinho and kaka behind him I demand he breaks up with belen.


On that note how long before pato kaka dinho is our starting trident. This may save dungas job

[marcovb]

If borriello can't net 20 with dinho and kaka behind him I demand he breaks up with belen.


On that note how long before pato kaka dinho is our starting trident. This may save dungas job

Yeah
and he can leave too but only if he let Belen at Milanello

[Jeff]

Pato - Ronaldinho - Kaka`? That's the dream team, but then Milan can also take the opportunity to rotate between players and not exhaust Kaka`.

[barcafan08]

Thanks for the money you gave us!

It's almost as we're stealing from you. Thank you for taking an overrated, fat, useless player that's definitely past it, off our hands. You've literally just wasted 20 million euros on a player like him when you could have used them funds for a player who might actually give a damn about the team and fans. I guarantee you, he'll only go out and party and get more over weight with time. He'll promise to change; he always does. But the guy will never change. I know from experience with watching him and such. This is a gamble that will not pay off.

Ronaldinho: the man who only cares about himself!

I bid farewell to you.

[Warro Bantan]

Thanks for the money you gave us!

It's almost as we're stealing from you. Thank you for taking an overrated, fat, useless player that's definitely past it, off our hands. You've literally just wasted 20 million euros on a player like him when you could have used them funds for a player who might actually give a damn about the team and fans. I guarantee you, he'll only go out and party and get more over weight with time. He'll promise to change; he always does. But the guy will never change. I know from experience with watching him and such. This is a gamble that will not pay off.

Ronaldinho: the man who only cares about himself!

I bid farewell to you.Welcome barcafan08!

Sour grapes anyone?

:haha:

FORZA R10!! FORZA MILAN!!

[Giancarlo]

Thanks for the money you gave us!

It's almost as we're stealing from you. Thank you for taking an overrated, fat, useless player that's definitely past it, off our hands. You've literally just wasted 20 million euros on a player like him when you could have used them funds for a player who might actually give a damn about the team and fans. I guarantee you, he'll only go out and party and get more over weight with time. He'll promise to change; he always does. But the guy will never change. I know from experience with watching him and such. This is a gamble that will not pay off.

Ronaldinho: the man who only cares about himself!

I bid farewell to you.

A fat, useless player? Are you that blind sided? For one, he's a playmaker and he has a thin build. He can lose weight just like that and in Milan we have a very strong work ethic. We didn't waste 20 million euros on him. We got a steal. Your team is probably going to collapse now. You can't even get half decent replacements.

Tell me barca fan, if your team is so wonderful, why did you get Dani Alves for that atrocious amount you paid? 29 million for him? What the?

Barca neglected Ronaldinho and paid the price. And what disrespect... this guy had a key part in giving your team that CL title... and this is the kind of respect you give him?

Rather you don't deserve him. You deserve crap like Dani Alves... you won't get a replacement for Ronaldinho by the way.

[marcovb]

Thanks for the money you gave us!

It's almost as we're stealing from you. Thank you for taking an overrated, fat, useless player that's definitely past it, off our hands. You've literally just wasted 20 million euros on a player like him when you could have used them funds for a player who might actually give a damn about the team and fans. I guarantee you, he'll only go out and party and get more over weight with time. He'll promise to change; he always does. But the guy will never change. I know from experience with watching him and such. This is a gamble that will not pay off.

Ronaldinho: the man who only cares about himself!

I bid farewell to you.

That's the man that made you CL winners
I think we talk about a former Ballon d'Or winner

we''ll see about wasting money
If i remember well last summer barca wanted 70 mlns for him and now they only took 20

[Milano84]

upset barca fan LOL. Upset youre only getting 15 mil when EPL offered 30. Ouch.

I expect 2 years from him personally. Regain form. Champions league run. World cup. Then cheetos and beer :-)

If anyones overrated its messi. Impressive against getafe. Unnoticeable against Madrid

[drucurl]

Thanks for the money you gave us!

It's almost as we're stealing from you. Thank you for taking an overrated, fat, useless player that's definitely past it, off our hands. You've literally just wasted 20 million euros on a player like him when you could have used them funds for a player who might actually give a damn about the team and fans. I guarantee you, he'll only go out and party and get more over weight with time. He'll promise to change; he always does. But the guy will never change. I know from experience with watching him and such. This is a gamble that will not pay off.

Ronaldinho: the man who only cares about himself!

I bid farewell to you. You're most welcome :w155:

You see Milan isn't a club where players are viewed as stock items and bargaining chips. We pay dearly for it at times (either via high salaries or otherwise) but we ARE the definition of class....it's how we became the most internationally successful club in the world.

Barca on the other hand have gotten humiliated (we're not talking about the 4-0 here :D ) time after time with their stars from Di Stefano, Figo, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Romario and now Ronaldinho...ALL of who you sold in their prime.
HALF of your European Champions' League success (in your ENTIRE HISTORY) is OWED almost completely to Ronaldinho and Ronaldo gave you the Super Cup. They wanted to expand their medal cabinet so they're with us now. Thanks for letting us have in total 6 (SIX) world players of the year titles come under the red and black banner:5schal:....and we eagerly await Daniel Alves, Lionel Messi and Bojan Kirkic in the years to come. Nice doing buisness anytime and we'll be happy to sell you more defensive mids who are past their best as we did with Albertini. You can choose from the wide array of Emerson, Brocchi or Gattuso.

Best wishes on Messi- your latest sweetheart- lasting more than half a season, replicating Ronaldinho's exploits, and not being dethroned by Aguero :respect:

Regards,
drucurl.
Milanista for Life

[forward]

ok, I've been reading this thread closely for the whole summer without posting...
all i got to say now is

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[atreides602]

and if u have problems with the defensive compartiment we can offer favalli, digao , oddo and simic :)

[Milano84]

ok, I've been reading this thread closely for the whole summer without posting...

that sounds painful

[drucurl]

and if u have problems with the defensive compartiment we can offer favalli, digao , oddo and simic :)Pity Fiorentina got Gila.....we could have offered him to Barca for a straight swap :D

[Giancarlo]

and if u have problems with the defensive compartiment we can offer favalli, digao , oddo and simic :)

We should offer Favalli, Emerson, Brocchi... for 30 million to barfa. And Barcelona would buy that because they love spending huge amounts of money on useless players (Alves).

We should have done a swap deal... Favalli, Emerson and Brocchi for Ronaldinho... lol. They would be all set! :D

[barcafan08]

Not upset. I'm glad he's gone. He's useless. Has been for some time. Sour grapes? Clearly. I did say thank you for the 20 million euros. Ronaldinho can lose weight - just like any human being - but he won't. He promises and promises and promises he'll lose weight but never does.

We have enough time to get better players than Ronaldinho; that's the thing about football, you get better footballers all the time, for near enough the same money and will be younger.

Please, Ronaldinho was not the reason we won the Champions League. Need I remind you, the guy went missing in the Champions League semi-final and final. The person that won us it was Larsson, so don't go on like Ronaldinho is some kind of God or something!

We're on a collapse? What the heck are Milan on? They didn't even qualify for the Champions League. We had a poor season and still finished 3rd and made it to semi-final of a Champions League and lost to the winners.

We took that 20 million euros because we're desperate to get rid of him. You know why that is? He's not the same player he once was, and never will be again. I guarantee you!

Your memory is lacking with Messi. Messi has scored quite a few goals against Madrid last season, so you're way off the mark. And your response was to try to fuel a reaction out of me. I obviously think Kaka is a great player, so I won't simply call him overrated just because someone's stating the truth about Ronaldinho when you're trying to get a reaction out of me. So don't go around making stupid remarks like Messi's an overrated when it simply isn't true.

I would like to say, I hope you cream us in the Champions League, but you're not even there.

[Milano84]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpQSQS0tqoI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5-630qLJI4

second one is a little homoerotic..... but hey, why not

[Milano84]

cmon giancarlo..... dani alves is very good.

seydou keita for 14 mil LOL... isnt that about same amount we paid for dinho? :-D. If barca hurry they may be able to get momo sissoki from juve too!

[barcafan08]

cmon giancarlo..... dani alves is very good.

seydou keita for 14 mil LOL... isnt that about same amount we paid for dinho? :-D. If barca hurry they may be able to get momo sissoki from juve too!

Keita was 14 million euros, you paid 20 million euros for Ronaldinho, which I'm thankful for that.

[Giancarlo]

Not upset. I'm glad he's gone. He's useless. Has been for some time. Sour grapes? Clearly. I did say thank you for the 20 million euros. Ronaldinho can lose weight - just like any human being - but he won't. He promises and promises and promises he'll lose weight but never does.

This is the type of disrespect that Barca fans have for their players. But hey I've seen the type... many fans in Barca's stadium were booing at Giovani Dos Santos. And made racist howling noises at Eto'o. You seem to have no respect towards any player. Yes, he will lose weight because we have a disciplined atmosphere.

I've been to both Barcelona and Milan. While Milan has its clubs and such, it's more rigid than Barcelona, and is a very business oriented conservative leaning city. Barcelona is party, party and party... I've been there. It's no wonder why he lost form... Barcelona is way too lax.



We have enough time to get better players than Ronaldinho; that's the thing about football, you get better footballers all the time, for near enough the same money and will be younger.

Like who? Your team has spent nearly 65 million Euros on players, with neary 30 million of that blown on a useless Dani Alves. Trust me, you won't get any replacement for Ronaldinho. No one.



Please, Ronaldinho was not the reason we won the Champions League. Need I remind you, the guy went missing in the Champions League semi-final and final. The person that won us it was Larsson, so don't go on like Ronaldinho is some kind of God or something!

This is incorrect. He was a key player in that and not to mention he was man of the match of the 2006 CL Final. Don't bad talk someone that gave you a CL trophy.


We're on a collapse? What the heck are Milan on? They didn't even qualify for the Champions League. We had a poor season and still finished 3rd and made it to semi-final of a Champions League and lost to the winners.

You had a poor season and still ended up in 3rd because you have a poorly competitive league. The Serie A is extremely competitive and one slip-up can cost you dearly. It doesn't matter if we didn't qualify for the CL... we will be back with will like Bayern.



We took that 20 million euros because we're desperate to get rid of him. You know why that is? He's not the same player he once was, and never will be again. I guarantee you!

This is false. Totally false. He will regain his form because he will have a renewed view on his career...


So don't go around making stupid remarks like Messi's an overrated when it simply isn't true.

Clearly he is overrated.



I would like to say, I hope you cream us in the Champions League, but you're not even there.

We will be back in the CL. Take my word on that one.

[Giancarlo]

cmon giancarlo..... dani alves is very good.

seydou keita for 14 mil LOL... isnt that about same amount we paid for dinho? :-D. If barca hurry they may be able to get momo sissoki from juve too!

Dani Alves is 10 million worth... not 29 million...

I mean for goodness sakes... 29 million? Is Barca out of their minds?

They blew most of their transfer budget already. With 29 million I could get like 2-3 better players than Alves!

[Milano84]

good giancarlo. half your comments embarass me as a milan fan
:5milan::o:o:o:o:o

[Milano84]

he's a WORLD CLASS RB who is 25. price to pay when buying players on there rise

[Giancarlo]

good giancarlo. half your comments embarass me as a milan fan
:5milan::o:o:o:o:o

Why is that? I have my opinions and it's not an issue to me if you agree with them or not...

This guy came in here insulting my team and I reacted.




ENOUGH!

THIS IS A TIME TO BE HAPPY BECAUSE WE GOT RONALDINHO! I'm supposed to BE HAPPY, not angry. :D

[Milano84]

sorry. today is a day to celebrate though. i cant wait for official announcement. This has been waaaay tooo long in the making.

its that feeling i had when i finally got that girl in high school i pursued far too long

[Milano84]

:bright:minus the sexual gratification:bright:

[Giancarlo]

I've been waiting for this day... I've always liked Ronaldinho, even though I've been recently skeptical... but I got faith in him... because he seems to love Milan! This is a day to celebrate like Brazilians...!

[Jeff]

Why is that? I have my opinions and it's not an issue to me if you agree with them or not...

This guy came in here insulting my team and I reacted.




ENOUGH!

THIS IS A TIME TO BE HAPPY BECAUSE WE GOT RONALDINHO! I'm supposed to BE HAPPY, not angry. :D

Because some of your opinions are not substantiated (at least ini some people's eyes).

Also, it's a natural thing here IN THIS FORUM that we respect other fans coming, even if they made some comments which are not pleasing to Milan fans.

Because that is class.

J

[drucurl]

Giancarlo I love you man....Barca fans are amazingly ungrateful :eekani:
Messi? What did Messi give them when R10 was out? What did Messi accomplish with the National Team? Where was Messi in the Copa America with a severely weakened Brazil? Where was Messi in the return Leg vs Getafe with his supposed wonder goal scored in the first leg? Where was Messi during Barca's second CL title? Where was Messi the last time Brazil had Kaka and he stole the ball from him then ran the length of the pitch beating everyone then scoring :D ? Where was Messi vs ManU?

And if you could say that Barca owed the CL to Larsson then there's no point talking to you further.

[Milano84]

1 of my best friends text'd me ruining my day "if i were you i wouldnt be celebrating signing another older injury prone player"




then again, he supports arsenal. the ultimate 'theres always next year.. look at new young talent we signed!' :-D

[Milano84]

Giancarlo I love you man....Barca fans are amazingly ungrateful :eekani:
Messi? What did Messi give them when R10 was out? What did Messi accomplish with the National Team? Where was Messi in the Copa America with a severely weakened Brazil? Where was Messi in the return Leg vs Getafe with his supposed wonder goal scored in the first leg? Where was Messi during Barca's second CL title? Where was Messi the last time Brazil had Kaka and he stole the ball from him then ran the length of the pitch beating everyone then scoring :D ? Where was Messi vs ManU?

And if you could say that Barca owed the CL to Larsson then there's no point talking to you further.


couldnt agree more. but hey messi is white and from barca youth system. he's a 'converted catalan' Xavi, iniesta, puyol do no wrong in barca. Dinho, ronaldo, romario, rivaldo, maradonna..... crap. run outta town


edit: messi is an exrordinary talent. but he's only 21. He is not NEAR dinho's level yet 1 day possibly

[Giancarlo]

Because some of your opinions are not substantiated (at least ini some people's eyes).

Also, it's a natural thing here IN THIS FORUM that we respect other fans coming, even if they made some comments which are not pleasing to Milan fans.

Because that is class.

J

They are substantiated, but I'm not going to get into that. I do not like Barca fans because I've seen how they are in person. Eto'o doesn't even take his family to stadium to watch games anymore because of the racist chants.

I'll show class, but I'm going to celebrate... and no one, NOT a soul, will derail my happiness!

[Vulli]

Official word on the transfer is expected by this evening, so Ronaldinho can be presented to the media for the start of Milan's pre-season training on Wednesday

[Jeff]

Not upset. I'm glad he's gone. He's useless. Has been for some time. Sour grapes? Clearly. I did say thank you for the 20 million euros. Ronaldinho can lose weight - just like any human being - but he won't. He promises and promises and promises he'll lose weight but never does.

We have enough time to get better players than Ronaldinho; that's the thing about football, you get better footballers all the time, for near enough the same money and will be younger.

Please, Ronaldinho was not the reason we won the Champions League. Need I remind you, the guy went missing in the Champions League semi-final and final. The person that won us it was Larsson, so don't go on like Ronaldinho is some kind of God or something!

We're on a collapse? What the heck are Milan on? They didn't even qualify for the Champions League. We had a poor season and still finished 3rd and made it to semi-final of a Champions League and lost to the winners.

We took that 20 million euros because we're desperate to get rid of him. You know why that is? He's not the same player he once was, and never will be again. I guarantee you!

Your memory is lacking with Messi. Messi has scored quite a few goals against Madrid last season, so you're way off the mark. And your response was to try to fuel a reaction out of me. I obviously think Kaka is a great player, so I won't simply call him overrated just because someone's stating the truth about Ronaldinho when you're trying to get a reaction out of me. So don't go around making stupid remarks like Messi's an overrated when it simply isn't true.

I would like to say, I hope you cream us in the Champions League, but you're not even there.

1) He promises to lose weight but Barcelona never helps him to lose weight.

2) Better players than Ronaldinho.. umm... ok... but this is classic from Barcelona: We are getting better players all the time. And yet?

3) I wish you were right that Ronaldinho is the person not responsible for the win, but I still remember how he passed superbly to score against Milan in San Siro... Then Milan would have won yet another champion league ;).

4) No disrespect to Spain, but I don't even think that the Spanish league is close to that of Serie A. Premier League will top the list.

5) Milan is not participating in CL next year, that's the truth. Milan has won 6CLs in the past, while Barcelona? That's also the truth.

6) Milan has a history of keeping the players as long as they want (with a few exceptions), while Barcelona has a history of selling their best players. At the end of the day who performs better in Europe and more prestigious?

7) IT's funny how people make fun of Milan when Milan is not in CL. Milan players and fans, however, have the DNA in their blood probably not to even retort such baby crying, knowing too well who are the more successful team in Europe.

Cheers - J

[_Ace]

yea, actually Milan has a pretty bad history with "finished" players(especially Brazillian players) :wallbang:

[barcafan08]

This is the type of disrespect that Barca fans have for their players. But hey I've seen the type... many fans in Barca's stadium were booing at Giovani Dos Santos. And made racist howling noises at Eto'o. You seem to have no respect towards any player. Yes, he will lose weight because we have a disciplined atmosphere.

I've been to both Barcelona and Milan. While Milan has its clubs and such, it's more rigid than Barcelona, and is a very business oriented conservative leaning city. Barcelona is party, party and party... I've been there. It's no wonder why he lost form... Barcelona is way too lax.



Like who? Your team has spent nearly 65 million Euros on players, with neary 30 million of that blown on a useless Dani Alves. Trust me, you won't get any replacement for Ronaldinho. No one.



This is incorrect. He was a key player in that and not to mention he was man of the match of the 2006 CL Final. Don't bad talk someone that gave you a CL trophy.



You had a poor season and still ended up in 3rd because you have a poorly competitive league. The Serie A is extremely competitive and one slip-up can cost you dearly. It doesn't matter if we didn't qualify for the CL... we will be back with will like Bayern.



This is false. Totally false. He will regain his form because he will have a renewed view on his career...



Clearly he is overrated.



We will be back in the CL. Take my word on that one.


Clearly Ronaldinho can win you the Champions League on his own, because he's that damn good. You don't even need a goalkeeper, defence or midfield because of him being that damn good. Heck, take the goalkeeper out, too. He can play everywhere because he's damn good.

Yeah, we also like to smash our fans with bottles and bricks as well. Oh.... wait!

That's the thing, Barcelona like to waste money on ****ty players, one being Ronaldinho. We waste our stupid money. And we seem to let them go to your team when they're past it. Damn us!

You're right. Serie A is the only competitive league out there. It sure has its scandals, I can tell you that. Where were all the all the Italian teams in the Champions League semi-final and final again?

You're right about Ronaldinho having a new way of looking at his career; he will get to explore more bars and restaurants in Milan. You're definitely need to get the whip out for this guy at training.

Of course you'll be back in the Champions League. Your league reminds me of the Scottish league; there's only like 2 decent in there, so it's pretty easy to. I was looking forward to Ronaldinho scoring that hattrick passed us as well. Damn!

[Giancarlo]

Official word on the transfer is expected by this evening, so Ronaldinho can be presented to the media for the start of Milan's pre-season training on Wednesday

Excellent...

And one other thing... before anyone decries me as being anti-Spanish... heh... I'm half Spanish, half Italian... half of my mom's family is Catalan. But lets not get into that.

[Giancarlo]

Clearly Ronaldinho can win you the Champions League on his own, because he's that damn good. You don't even need a goalkeeper, defence or midfield because of him being that damn good. Heck, take the goalkeeper out, too. He can play everywhere because he's damn good.

I didn't say he was that. I clearly have been a long time advocate for many other players to join Milan, including Cristian Zapata, Fabio Quagliarella, Pavyluchenko... etc. We have reinforced our midfield and defense. There could be a few more tweaks made, but this have been an EXTREMELY satisfactory transfer season for us.

Abbiati is fine, but I agree with people on here we need a new keeper (that will come later probably in the next transfer window).



You're right. Serie A is the only competitive league out there. It sure has its scandals, I can tell you that. Where were all the all the Italian teams in the Champions League semi-final and final again?

And the La Liga doesn't? Where were all the Spanish teams? Where was Barcelona? You got lucky to get as far as you did. By the way if I remember Real Madrid, the La Liga champions, were beaten by Roma in a trashing 4-2... even beaten in their own turf 2-1 by Roma.



You're right about Ronaldinho having a new way of looking at his career; he will get to explore more bars and restaurants in Milan. You're definitely need to get the whip out for this guy at training.

Milan is NOT a party atmosphere. If you've ever been there you would know what I mean.



Of course you'll be back in the Champions League. Your league reminds me of the Scottish league; there's only like 2 decent in there, so it's pretty easy to. I was looking forward to Ronaldinho scoring that hattrick passed us as well. Damn!

That's not correct. We have actually six teams that are fighting for the 4 spots...

By the way if you want to talk about class... I posted a get well thread for a former Barca player, Lilian Thuram..

http://www.milanmania.com/forums/showthread.php?p=501149

[Milano84]

while i think giancarlo is exagerrating with 6 teams. milan, inter, roma and juve r perenial powers.... anytime a team pushes up its anarchy uptop.


spain on otherhand only have barca and real madrid.... .sure atletic, villareal, valencia and some others r good... but they r cyclically good. just like fiorentina or napoli or sampdoria or lazio etc. they arent year in year out top 4. In italy, those 4 r always at top 4.... anytime 1 of the 'midtable teams' puts together a good team, its insane.

Barca freefell at end of season and didnt even effect them falling past 3rd

[Filipéz 182]

Clearly Ronaldinho can win you the Champions League on his own, because he's that damn good. You don't even need a goalkeeper, defence or midfield because of him being that damn good. Heck, take the goalkeeper out, too. He can play everywhere because he's damn good.

Yeah, we also like to smash our fans with bottles and bricks as well. Oh.... wait!

That's the thing, Barcelona like to waste money on ****ty players, one being Ronaldinho. We waste our stupid money. And we seem to let them go to your team when they're past it. Damn us!

You're right. Serie A is the only competitive league out there. It sure has its scandals, I can tell you that. Where were all the all the Italian teams in the Champions League semi-final and final again?

You're right about Ronaldinho having a new way of looking at his career; he will get to explore more bars and restaurants in Milan. You're definitely need to get the whip out for this guy at training.

Of course you'll be back in the Champions League. Your league reminds me of the Scottish league; there's only like 2 decent in there, so it's pretty easy to. I was looking forward to Ronaldinho scoring that hattrick passed us as well. Damn!

sad little boy!

I thought barca fans were more smart than this, this is something an inter fan would say.

[Milano84]

i'll agree to this statement.....beyond englands top 4. i'd take any midtable spanish or italian side over everton, aston villa, tottenham etc

[barcafan08]

You know what, I apologize you to all you fans.

I didn't mean to have a go at your guys. I really didn't. I like Milan, and I think they're a great team and will get back to the way they were.

I shouldn't mention Ronaldinho, because he wounds me up a lot. The guy has thrown his talent away to me. That's why I get angry.

I totally apologize for being an ass. Sorry!

[Milano84]

wait a minute.... did barcafan insult milans gks? I'll agree kalac, dida, abbiati makes me cringe.... but i'm not exactly jumping for joy over valdes either

[Giancarlo]

You know what, I apologize you to all you fans.

I didn't mean to have a go at your guys. I really didn't. I like Milan, and I think they're a great team and will get back to the way they were.

I shouldn't mention Ronaldinho, because he wounds me up a lot. They guy has thrown his talent away to me. That's why I get angry.

I totally apologize for being an ass. Sorry!

It's fine. Apology accepted. I understand the emotions. I'd probably be similar if my team lost a big player... to be honest, I was very upset when Shevchenko left...

[Milano84]

You know what, I apologize you to all you fans.

I didn't mean to have a go at your guys. I really didn't. I like Milan, and I think they're a great team and will get back to the way they were.

I shouldn't mention Ronaldinho, because he wounds me up a lot. They guy has thrown his talent away to me. That's why I get angry.

I totally apologize for being an ass. Sorry!

as part of your apology you're welcome to send us iniesta or bojan

[barcafan08]

wait a minute.... did barcafan insult milans gks? I'll agree kalac, dida, abbiati makes me cringe.... but i'm not exactly jumping for joy over valdes either

No I didn't. I was joking about Ronaldinho. I was being sarcastic. Lol.

Valdes is terrible at times. Let's not mention him.

[barcafan08]

as part of your apology you're welcome to send us iniesta or bojan

Lol.

You can take Henry on loan if you want? :D

[barcafan08]

It's fine. Apology accepted. I understand the emotions. I'd probably be similar if my team lost a big player... to be honest, I was very upset when Shevchenko left...

It's not fine. I was being an ass for no reason. But thank you.

I'm weird and I don't know why I act they way I do. You seem like a fine guy and that, so I shouldn't act like that.

[Milano84]

Lol.

You can take Henry on loan if you want? :D

dont mention that. Galliani will try:stoned:

[drucurl]

It's fine. Apology accepted. I understand the emotions. I'd probably be similar if my team lost a big player... to be honest, I was very upset when Shevchenko left...:wth: What happened to the Giancarlo we all knew :dontkn: Somebody says Zambrotta is crap and you throw fire and brimstone at them and you're forgiving the BARCA fan :1ang:

[barcafan08]

I liked Zambrotta. I don't understand why we got rid of him. That pissed me off.

[Milano84]

because u have dani alves and..... abidal......... which on a minor rant, how is abidal starting LB for france over evra and clichy. oh thats right. domenech is stupid.

[Giancarlo]

:wth: What happened to the Giancarlo we all knew :dontkn: Somebody says Zambrotta is crap and you throw fire and brimstone at them and you're forgiving the BARCA fan :1ang:

Well...

I'm not going to be angry today... this is my day to celebrate

[Milano84]

however should u want zambro back i'll swap dani alves for him..... we already have antonini a d favalli on the left

[barcafan08]

because u have dani alves and..... abidal......... which on a minor rant, how is abidal starting LB for france over evra and clichy. oh thats right. domenech is a moron

But I would have rather kept Zambrotta and got rid of Abidal.

[Mr. Anonymous]

It's not fine. I was being an ass for no reason. But thank you.

I'm weird and I don't know why I act they way I do. You seem like a fine guy and that, so I shouldn't act like that.

Don't worry, when it comes GianCarlo even we can't stand him at times...but since he loves the Red & Black he must be accepted.

Kinda like that weird, crazy cousin in the family everyone tries to keep a secret.:guw:



......


or am I the only one who has....


nevermind....


uummmmm...FORZA MILAN & RONALDINHO!:guw:

[Iggy]

In between all this Dinho talk, Storari has been sent to Fiorentina for on loan. See acmilan.com or http://www.acffiorentina.it/it/Articolo.aspx?Ctn=290824

[Tony29.]

LOL, someone can't accept losing Ronaldinho, i can see :)

Milan got a brilliant player from the past, with good chances to be brilliant again in the future. One bad season in football is nothing (some say Dinho had 2 bad seasons, but i think he's been solid in 2006/07).
The other big teams from Europe (Manchester Utd, Chelsea, Inter, Real, Bayern, Liverpool, Arsenal, Juventus etc) didn't want to take a risk with Ronaldinho and they may easily be sorry at the end. Milan took the risk, even though the history shows that Milan were really unlucky with south Americans coming from La Liga (Redondo, Rivaldo, Ricardo Oliveira, Ronaldo, Emerson). Once it has to work, though.
Will it work with Dinho, only time will tell, but if he gets back to his old self then he will be unstoppable. If he won't, then no-one should blame Galliani or Berlusconi for buying him, because only a fool won't try to sign Ronaldinho.

[Jeff]

I thought someone said he was sent to a spanish club?

[Roche13]

Well i was the one that probably riped Dinho the most,but i have to say in the end i hope it does work out for Dinho and Milan.
When he is on top of he's game there are none better,i just hope he finds it.
It will be 39million euros at the end of the day for the purchase and salary for the next 3years.At 28 he has 4 years on Seedorf and with that said it will create more depth in the Midfield,which Milan needed.He is a signing that does create more rest for players like Kaka and Seedorf,not saying he will not start just saying he will help more than what Gorky or who every Milan had the last couple of years.
The best thing about signing Dinho is there is hope that he does have greatness left in him and if that is so other clubs will be in trouble ever time they play Milan.

[Giancarlo]

LOL, someone can't accept losing Ronaldinho, i can see :)

Milan got a brilliant player from the past, with good chances to be brilliant again in the future. One bad season in football is nothing (some say Dinho had 2 bad seasons, but i think he's been solid in 2006/07).
The other big teams from Europe (Manchester Utd, Chelsea, Inter, Real, Bayern, Liverpool, Arsenal, Juventus etc) didn't want to take a risk with Ronaldinho and they may easily be sorry at the end. Milan took the risk, even though the history shows that Milan were really unlucky with south Americans coming from La Liga (Redondo, Rivaldo, Ricardo Oliveira, Ronaldo, Emerson). Once it has to work, though.
Will it work with Dinho, only time will tell, but if he gets back to his old self then he will be unstoppable. If he won't, then no-one should blame Galliani or Berlusconi for buying him, because only a fool won't try to sign Ronaldinho.

Well we had good luck at times too... just took too many risks. Ronaldinho is younger, has never had major injuries and has a slim build. This is what is different between him and Ronaldo for example...

We had good luck with Kaka and Pato... I would even say Cafu and Serginho gave us many years of good service... but yeah we had our bad signings. It happens to every team. :)

Ronaldinho is beyond Oliveira, Redondo, Ronaldo and Emerson... he'll fit in well.

[Milano84]

LOL, someone can't accept losing Ronaldinho, i can see :)

Milan got a brilliant player from the past, with good chances to be brilliant again in the future. One bad season in football is nothing (some say Dinho had 2 bad seasons, but i think he's been solid in 2006/07).
The other big teams from Europe (Manchester Utd, Chelsea, Inter, Real, Bayern, Liverpool, Arsenal, Juventus etc) didn't want to take a risk with Ronaldinho and they may easily be sorry at the end. Milan took the risk, even though the history shows that Milan were really unlucky with south Americans coming from La Liga (Redondo, Rivaldo, Ricardo Oliveira, Ronaldo, Emerson). Once it has to work, though.
Will it work with Dinho, only time will tell, but if he gets back to his old self then he will be unstoppable. If he won't, then no-one should blame Galliani or Berlusconi for buying him, because only a fool won't try to sign Ronaldinho.

i would agree with you on a solid 06/07. the only knock is because he was such a genius in 05/06. kind of a victim of his own success.
i wouldnt call ronaldo unsuccessful. for a midseason transfer he secured us staying in top 4. So even though more didnt come out of him, for a small midseason transfer, he sufficed.

tony, whts your thoughts on juve? Whats going on there.... i like poulsen alot, but he isnt the payer thet need. Perhaps they want to have a defensive mid battle royale w/ milan? Do you think they will sign anyone else, arent they a little thin outwide w/ nedved camorenesi and only giovinco? Just curious....

[Ceceves]

I'm absolutely thrilled we'll finally get Ronaldinho. Even if he'll never be the Ronaldinho of 2005, he's still top drawer and a great signing.

The Barca fan who's gotten himself lost in here is indeed a very typical Barca supporter, sadly. These people have no respect for the players who've brought them such joy and succes through the years. The examples thereof are in abundance. Saying that Dinho is useless, though, is the worst I've heard yet. You people (Barca fans) never learn. Good luck finding a replacement for Ronaldinho - who will it be? The utterly average Hleb, or maybe that two-game wonder Arshavin (I'll forgive some of my fellow milanisti for briefly wanting him instead of Ronaldinho :p231:)?

I'll have to disagree with those of you saying that Messi is overrated - he's not (and Agüero will never be better than him). The reason why he didn't play a big role in the 2006 CL was that he was only 18 at the time, surely he'd be forgiven for not owning the big stage at that age. But the problem there IS with Messi, is that, much unlike R10, he doesn't make the team better - he still plays mostly for himself. Remember the 2006 CL semi final Barca vs. Milan at the San Siro (I know you do :pp18:), how Ronaldinho set up Giuly for the only goal? Messi doesn't do that - and I doubt he ever will. And you'll miss that, Barca, and you'll regret being so disrespectful and selling Dinho - "Oh how the mighty have fallen!" they'll say, and yet you'll never learn...This time it's Dinho, next time Messi, then...Bojan.

[ginoformaggino]

Please, Ronaldinho was not the reason we won the Champions League. Need I remind you, the guy went missing in the Champions League semi-final and final. The person that won us it was Larsson, so don't go on like Ronaldinho is some kind of God or something!



Hola culè.

I trust little Frankie when he says Barca won when R10 played.
According to me, you're terribly wrong saying R10 was not the reason Barca won (their second Champions' League. . . said enough?) .
You forget when Barca played at San Siro, semifinal first leg: who's made that perfect no-loook assist to Giuly? Me? Cruyiff? Aragones? Rossell? Let me say, being beginners in that kind of trophies, at this level it would be better to admit Barca wasn't able to manage - as usual! - one of the best player all over the world.
Now we got 2 fantastic players, probably the best.
Greetings to Don TheDoor, sorry, LaPorta.

:dcool:

[drucurl]

however should u want zambro back i'll swap dani alves for him..... we already have antonini a d favalli on the left:ilol::ilol::ilol:

[Warro Bantan]

Ok guys (and gals) barcafan has apologised, so lets not batter him overmuch for what he has already apologised for....

Moving on....

Does Clarence give up his #10?

[Tony29.]

tony, whts your thoughts on juve? Whats going on there.... i like poulsen alot, but he isnt the payer thet need. Perhaps they want to have a defensive mid battle royale w/ milan? Do you think they will sign anyone else, arent they a little thin outwide w/ nedved camorenesi and only giovinco? Just curious....
Like i said few weeks ago and today Ranieri only repeated what i was saying all along...Juve had a great attack last year. The best attack in serie A. Chances were created with ease, while Zanetti (incredibly underrated player) was among the top three assisters. Camoranesi was doing a monster job also.
There were no problems at all in creating chances and scoring. With Giovinco as a playmaker and with another great attacker (don't listen Giancarlo when he talks about Amauri :D ) , there should be no problems in creating and scoring.

The problem was always the defense. That's why i was saying that a strong destroyer in midfield and a great CB are needed.
Juve did try to do exactly that at the beginning. They went for a DMC. Milan were better and they "stole" Flamini in front of Juve. Logically, i expected Juve to go for another DMC and that's why i was surprised when talks about Xabi Alonso started. Xabi is a fantastic playmaker, but he doesn't defend at all, and defending was what Juve needed.
Luckily the board realised that it's a defensive midfielder that was needed and they bought one of the best destroyers in Europe, Poulsen.

But they failed with strenghtning the defense. Chiellini and Buffon offer security, but Molinaro and Legrottaglie are a potential heart-attack for the Juve fans.
If Juve bought a good CB and LB ( lets say Carvalho and Grosso) then that team would have been very hard to beat, just like in Lippi and Capello days. Great defense, with two strong DMC's that run non-stop for 90 minutes, and with players who easily create and score up front.


Since they didn't buy a CB and LB, all that was left to do was to at least buy a physically strong DMC like Poulsen.

Overall i'm satisfied, but i'd have felt much better if they bought someone really good to replace Molinaro and Legrottaglie.

P.S: As for the width, it's almost the same as last year. Nedved, Camoranesi, Marchionni, Salihamidzic and now Giovinco instead of Palladino.

[Ryo]

I say yes to that. Clarence earned that shirt with years of hard work and dedication, with two CLs to show for it.

I say give Ronny the # 20. He played well enough in that in his time with the National Team when he was younger, why not go back to his roots?

Heres another thought.... Ka-Pa-Ro Mark.II?

[Warro Bantan]

Maybe the assignment of the #10 is one of the small details that we are still haggling over? :D

[jtelly]

I say we go back to the old system of shirt numbers by position, that way whoever is playing gets the shirt. Plus, then we don't have dumb numbers like 99....oops!

[HO-YOUNG]

he can get the #01....

[drucurl]

he can get the #01.... He's overweight NOT dyslexic :rone:

[nguyen_milan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpQSQS0tqoI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5-630qLJI4

second one is a little homoerotic..... but hey, why not

These made me chilled :beach::p017::p017: Cant wait to see Kaka, Ronaldinho and Pato together :1ole:
Still, I want a new GK and a CB.

[hitmannq8]

Barca: talks with Milan and City continue...


whats all that about? can anyone shed any light?

[GeoTav]

STOOOOOOP

Last reports say that Barcelona refused our offer because it was too low ...

[GilAttack [11]]

Would people really be that mad if Ronaldinho goes to City? Come on...

[drucurl]

:wth: Barca rejects our latest offer (http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=527173&idseccio_PK=803) :p146:

[Reza]

If doesn't go through after all this everybody from Galliani to Gazzetta editors need to answer many questions.

[nguyen_milan]

SHIIIT, read about that just a moment ago, still it is not through yet.

[catennacio]

:wth: Barca rejects our latest offer (http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=527173&idseccio_PK=803) :p146:

how much was it?

[Mr. Anonymous]

really? Care to justify that? :mad:

How is Man City making the task difficult to conclude? Ronaldinho doesn't want to go there. That's been established.

As you can see GianCarlo the only reason this deal isn't done is because Laporta wants Milan to come as close as possible to Man City's offer.

This would have been done ages ago if Man City wasn't in the picture.

Hence they are making this transfer difficult for Milan conclude.

http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.sport.es/default.asp&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.sport.es/default.asp%253Fidpublicacio_PK%253D44%2526idioma%253DCAS%2526idnoticia_PK%253D527173%2526idseccio_P K%253D803%26hl%3Den

[drucurl]

how much was it? the people at R&B are saying £12

[Warro Bantan]

Wow....talk about coming to a screetching halt...Laporta is I guess, doing what is best for Barca...he doesnt want to risk feeling the wrath of the fans et al for "giving away" Ronaldinho...

I will think positively, and believe that this will be wrapped up today, or tomorrow the latest.

[drucurl]

Wow....talk about coming to a screetching halt...Laporta is I guess, doing what is best for Barca...he doesnt want to risk feeling the wrath of the fans et al for "giving away" Ronaldinho...

I will think positively, and believe that this will be wrapped up today, or tomorrow the latest. yeah for ManCity :cpuke:

[remote2book]

MILAN - On his exit from the Lega Calcio Milan lawyer Leandro Cantamessa, who's in constant contact with Adriano Galliani, made the following declarations: 'There is a good chance that Ronaldinho's move to Milan will materialise. There are still some economic problems, but our law office has already prepared the necessary papers. I've spoken to Galliani, he was calm even though no one has put pen to paper yet, I want to emphasize that. We are all waiting."

source ACmilan.com

so seems everyone is waiting iam just hoping that it is official ASAP!

[Mr. Anonymous]

Now I know why Barca Fan apologized and left as quickly as he came.:wow:

The little...:p1510:

What a day!

[almilan]

http://store.acmilan.com/dettagli.a...01&ric=&sposta=

click PERSONALIZZAZIONE GIOCATORE and then number 1

[Warro Bantan]

the people at R&B are saying £12

:haha:

£12? 12 Quid? Surely they mean £12M???

[Jim_UK]

i think a few people were popping their corks before they should have been ...

[drucurl]

this is the LAST time a Milan transfer take up so much of my time :5dito:
I've been through this in recent times with Henry, Sobis, Ronaldo (the window before the one when we bought him) Eto'o and Suazo whomever we buy won't get my precious worktime anymore :mad:

[sheva-gila]

on calciomercato.com . barca said no to our offer I hope thats not true

[remote2book]

this is the LAST time a Milan transfer take up so much of my time :5dito:
I've been through this in recent times with Henry, Sobis, Ronaldo (the window before the one when we bought him) Eto'o and Suazo whomever we buy won't get my precious worktime anymore :mad:

true i think its all on barca at the moment

[Warro Bantan]

This ladies and germs, is what happens when rules are ignored. The silly season rules are still in effect.

Kindly remember this.

Seems in my euphoria, I forgot them myself, then didnt want to sound like the "bearer of bad realisations", when I thought that celebrations were indeed a tad bit premature, since nothing was official on either Barca or our official web site.

I still think that its only a matter of time (minutes not days or months :D) that he signs for Milan..

[Tony29.]

The info about Barca rejecting Milan's offer comes from the Spanish news agency EFE. They aren't quoting anyone, they only say that the source is someone close to Barcelona.
It doesn't sound too reliable.

Barcelona on the other hand put an official statement on their site saying only that the negotiations are going to continue with both Milan and Manchester City. (they put the statement some 40 minutes ago)

[Milano84]

12mil is pretty insulting offer when i garentee you man city more than doubled the offer. i cant blame barca for rejecting....

[Tony29.]

12mil is pretty insulting offer when i garentee you man city more than doubled the offer. i cant blame barca for rejecting....
Same here.
I'm shocked actually. Even a crippled Ronaldinho worths more than 15m eur (12m BP).
Laporta will be executed if he accepts such an offer.

How old is Kaka ? 26 ?
Ronaldinho is 28. Imagine Galliani selling Kaka after 2 years for 15m eur. The fans will linch him.

[ginoformaggino]

live from Mediaset premium, one minutes ago:
"Meeting started around 21.30.
Milan has raised his offer.
There is Berlusconi private jet ready
but it will be finished all for tomorrow in the morning."
Carlo Laudisa - gazzetta - from Barcellona says: "it could be over in a few minutes, 22,5 mil.€".

[nguyen_milan]

live from Mediaset premium, one minutes ago:
"Meeting started around 21.30.
Milan has raised his offer.
There is Berlusconi private jet ready
but it will be finished all for tomorrow in the morning."
Carlo Laudisa - gazzetta - from Barcellona says: "it could be over in a few minutes, 22,5 mil.€".

F that greedy bastard Laporta :dumpf: :D
just finish this already and bring Ronnie home, bald guy!

[Ceceves]

That's it! I can't stand this anymore :pchate:.

- I'm going to bed :2whis:.

But when I wake up tomorrow, the headlines have better not say "Ronaldinho snubs Milan for City" and then "Milan turns to Sheva" and finally "Galliani: Our Mercato Is Over" :noevil2:.

[ginoformaggino]

Malagutti, Mediaset journalist from Barcellona - Camp Nou confirms the agreement . Dinho is red & black player and he will be tomorrow in Milan

[sheva-gila]

my god there is official R10 is a milan player

[ginoformaggino]

Also the ACMilan.com says the same. He is a red and black

[sheva-gila]

i can believe this thanks god thank you galliani thank you mr PRESIDENT

[GilAttack [11]]

Same here.
I'm shocked actually. Even a crippled Ronaldinho worths more than 15m eur (12m BP).
Laporta will be executed if he accepts such an offer.

How old is Kaka ? 26 ?
Ronaldinho is 28. Imagine Galliani selling Kaka after 2 years for 15m eur. The fans will linch him.

Please stop, you are comparing Ronaldinho to Kaka. A guy who has no work ethic and is not wanted anywhere (Only Man City and Milan want him, and Milan want to sign him because he is supposedly coming cheap) with a top 3 soccer player who is a great kid and is an example on and off the pitch. The fans would linch Silvio and Galliani even if they sell him for 50m.

[_MaJi_tz]

L'AC Milan e l'FC Barcelona hanno raggiunto un principio di accordo per il trasferimento di Ronaldinho alla Società rossonera. Il calciatore sarà domani a Milano per sottoporsi alle visite mediche e per firmare il contratto che lo legherà al Milan fino al 30 Giugno 2011.

[Russo-Neri]

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woohooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[_MaJi_tz]

ole ole ole ole ole ole ole

[Ceceves]

Thank God I didn't go to bed after all! I almost gave up for today, but the very second I was about to leave I saw it - At last, welcome to Milan, Ronaldinho!

Warning: Barring of course some sort of Suazogate-like development...

[Milano84]

;502841']Please stop, you are comparing Ronaldinho to Kaka. A guy who has no work ethic and is not wanted anywhere (Only Man City and Milan want him, and Milan want to sign him because he is supposedly coming cheap) with a top 3 soccer player who is a great kid and is an example on and off the pitch. The fans would linch Silvio and Galliani even if they sell him for 50m.

ronaldinho has more goals more assists and 2 world player of the year awards. although your point on kaka is valid.... the fact dinho is so cheap at 28 is also amazing. remember what we sold a 30 year old sheva for? or a 30 year old ballack to chels

[jtelly]

So, how do we line up with this new acquisition?!!!!
Forza Milan, Forza Dinho and welcome!

[Vulli]

OFFICIAL: Ronaldinho is rosonero yeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssss Finally

I' m waiting for 3 years this moment

[kris]

Now use my official thread. ;)

[Giovanni]

ACMILAN.COM

RONALDINHO: A.C.MILAN COMUNICATO UFFICIALE
15/07/2008
L'AC Milan e l'FC Barcelona hanno raggiunto un principio di accordo per il trasferimento di Ronaldinho alla Società rossonera. Il calciatore sarà domani a Milano per sottoporsi alle visite mediche e per firmare il contratto che lo legherà al Milan fino al 30 Giugno 2011.

[Arildonardo]

Now use my official thread. ;)
Not until the medical is passed... :dcool:

From acmilan.com:

"RONALDINHO: A.C.MILAN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
7/15/2008
AC Milan and FC Barcelona have reached an agreement for the transfer of Ronaldinho to the Rossoneri's club. Tomorrow the player will be in Milan for the medical and to sign the contract which will tie him to Milan until June 30th 2011."

[_MaJi_tz]

http://www.acmilan.com/Dettaglio.aspx?idAlbum=0&idTipo=2&id=10795

[nguyen_milan]

it is effing official!! Welcome to the new home Ronnie

[ginoformaggino]

yes jtelly, now the question is: what's up, Carletto? :1spie:

After 3 years of christmas tree, now I should believe in a 4.3.1.2 or 4.3.3

no, I see 4.3.2.1 again and again

all the hopes on Borriello.

If he repeated his past season... :cheers:

[remote2book]

Finallyy!!!!!! Long Wait And Finally Its Done!!! Welcome To The Rossoneri Family Ronaldhino!!

[Dr Milano]

for the first time in my life :D i will show love for galliani

I LOVE YOU GALLIANI :D :grinser:

[Vulli]

7/15/2008

RONALDINHO: A.C.MILAN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT


AC Milan and FC Barcelona have reached an agreement for the transfer of Ronaldinho to the Rossoneri's club. Tomorrow the player will be in Milan for the medical and to sign the contract which will tie him to Milan until June 30th 2011

[t.gianni]

I can already see Inter and Juve running scared with this news. This is without a doubt the most terrorizing news for the 2 clubs.

Tony29 - Do you feel a icy chill down your spine?

[Jim_UK]

So now all he has to do is pass the physical :nervous:

[jtelly]

All I can say is with this addition, when it comes to our formation...it's going to get crowded at the top! good luck, Carlo!

[almilan]

Finally!!!!!!!

[jtelly]

Our lineup with the Great Ka-Pa-Ro (i.e. Carlo's most offensive lineup ever) against napoli was:
Dida
Bonera-Maldini-Nesta-Kaladze
Ambrosini
Pirlo--kaka'---seedorf
R9---Pato

So is it:
Dida
Zambro--Nesta---Kaladze---Janku
Flamini
Pirlo---Kaka'---Dinho
Borriello---Pato

What's our best formation/lineup with the players we have?

[Giovanni]

Tony29 - Do you feel a icy chill down your spine?

I think Tony is now concerned about the fact that Ronaldinho costed 4.5 M less than Amauri.

Mancini costed 14 M.

Galliani is sending a postcard to all his MM fans :D

[julsesay]

It will be a good idea if you try to get Adebayor and Sheva using Galliani similar method. I now grow to love this bald headed guy. Congratulations

[ginoformaggino]

So is it:
Dida
Zambro--Nesta---Kaladze---Janku
Flamini
Pirlo---Kaka'---Dinho
Borriello---Pato

What's our best formation/lineup with the players we have?

I think
Kalac
Zambro Nesta Kaldze Janku

for sure


then

Gattuso Pirlo Flamini


kakà R10

and ...

Ba! :tired:

This way, Seedorf Ambro Antonini and one between pato or Borriello are on the bench

The only way to modify the system is to reduce the number of defenders.
playing with a 3. 4(or 3). 2(or 3) .1

but the case of 3 defenders is like a blasphemy

[GilAttack [11]]

I can already see Inter and Juve running scared with this news. This is without a doubt the most terrorizing news for the 2 clubs.

Tony29 - Do you feel a icy chill down your spine?

Trust me, if those clubs wanted Ronaldinho, they would have signed him before AC Milan.

[jtelly]

Hey Gino, were you around in padova when alexi lalas played there?

[Giovanni]

;502875']Trust me, if those clubs wanted Ronaldinho, they would have signed him before AC Milan.


Milan started his talks with De Assis two years ago. So, i don't trust you.

[remote2book]

Milan started his talks with De Assis two years ago. So, i don't trust you.

GIO knows all :1old:

[Milano84]

i think it'll be something like...

oddo nesta kaladze zambro

gattuso pirlo seedorf (ambro/flamini)

dinho kaka

borriello

and i think when pato comes in we'll see kaka or dinho out. we will rarely see seedorf in trequarista (which i hope we dont) unless we go into 4-3-1-2. seedorf doesnt run enough t play uptop i prefer him sit in midfield tackle, make smart passes, push up when needed like he used to and against napoli

[Milano84]

i dont think carlo will ply w/ 4 players w/o defensive assignments. ronaldinho if pushed back will be ineffective... where as clarence wont.

[Milano84]

i hope to god borriello does what people think he can uptop. its not an easy position, but vital to sucess

[ginoformaggino]

for us, 'biancoscudati', he was a great player. A fantastic blues guitar man, always happy.
We remember Sir Alexy, :v103: because that season we were able to beat Milan 2 to nothing at home and with a incredible free shoot by Michael Creek we won at Delle Alpi vs. Juve - 1 to a miserable 0. :cheers: hi Tony :hmmm:

[jtelly]

Cool, gino, thanks for the info, i always wanted to know more about his time in italy; i know he had a pretty decent time there, but then came back because MLS was starting up. Shame, I think he could've been a real cult legend!

[Giovanni]

Any reaction from Inter boards?
I'm checking the italian Juve and Roma boards...LOL

[Vulli]

Ronaldinho to Milan - Negotiation marathon on Ronaldinho of 15.VII.2008

Four hours before the player had landed at the "El Prat" airport of Barcelona. While Roberto held the first talks of the day with Milan vice president Adriano Galliani and Milan transfer adviser Ernesto Bronzetti at the Juan Carlos I hotel, Ronaldinho spend some time in his Porsche Cayenne.

After the meeting with Barcelona, the two Brazilians returned to the Juan Carlos I hotel. Ronaldinho leaves after half an hour. Roberto and the Milan representatives keep talking for some more hours.

With a meeting between Milan and Barcelona cancelled, the Italians conclude their day with a dinner at the Casa Jacinto restaurant. They are there joined by Daniel Fonseca, the agent of Barcelona player Mart�n C�ceres.

Catalan sports paper El Mundo Deportivo claims that at that moment the situation is this: Manchester City offering "27+5", Milan offering "15+5", Ronaldinho preferring Milan, Barcelona willing to accept the Milan offer if they raise it to "20+5". Madrid sports tabloid Marca claims that Barcelona is asking "25+5". Italian sports paper La Gazzetta dello Sport claims that Milan offers "15+0", having raised that from the initial "10+0".

This morning the mini-meetings continue. Roberto tries to convince Milan to raise their bid. Txiki talks with Galliani. Manchester City put a better offer on the table. Sport claims that City raises its bid to "30+2".

At 1:30 pm there's a high level meeting scheduled at the Via Veneto restaurant. Galliani and Bronzetti meet with Roberto and with Barcelona president Joan Laporta, who is assisted by Txiki, Sanlleh� and Barcelona board member Rafael Yuste, for a two-hour dinner.

Galliani and Bronzetti leave the table and return to the Juan Carlos I hotel to talk with Milan strong man and Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi. Sport claims that they get the authorization to raise their bid to 20 million euro. The two go back to the restaurant.

After the final conclusion of the dinner, Galliani and Bronzetti meet with Roberto and financial advisers of the player in their hotel. Roberto goes to the Camp Nou for further talks with Yuste, Txiki, Sanlleh� and two club lawyers. After one hour he returns to the Juan Carlos I hotal.

In Italy they then think it's a deal. La Gazzetta dello Sport says that the transfer price is "18,5+1,5". Galliani will go to the Camp Nou to finalize the last details with Laporta, Ronaldinho will fly tonight to Milan and will be presented tomorrow

[ginoformaggino]

Cool, gino, thanks for the info, i always wanted to know more about his time in italy; i know he had a pretty decent time there, but then came back because MLS was starting up. Shame, I think he could've been a real cult legend!

he is a legend in Padova, because he got charisma and chemestry, fundamental thing for a small team as it was padova. By the way, in that team played peopele like maniero, creek, bonaiuti, galderisi, vlaovich, franceschini.

in the precedent year, padova had sold Del Piero Di Livio and Albertini.

Times are changed

[ginoformaggino]

Ronaldinho to Milan - The history of negotiation marathon on Ronaldinho of 15.XII.2008



In Italy they then think it's a deal. La Gazzetta dello Sport says that the transfer price is "18,5+1,5". Galliani will go to the Camp Nou to finalize the last details with Laporta, Ronaldinho will fly tonight to Milan and will be presented tomorrow


Mediaset says 15 plus bonus 2,5 x 3 years = 22,5

[GilAttack [11]]

Milan started his talks with De Assis two years ago. So, i don't trust you.

OK, keep drinking the Ronaldinho kool-aid. Good for you.

[Siregar]

Ronaldinho to Milan - Negotiation marathon on Ronaldinho of 15.VII.2008


The currency being talked is euro, right?

[remote2book]

THE FIRST WORDS OF ADRIANO GALLIANI
7/15/2008
BARCELONA - Talking to Sky's microphones at the end of the long negotiation with Barcelona Adriano Galliani said: "Tomorrow Ronaldinho will be subjected to the medical visits, if there are no problems he will be a Milan player." The delegate administrator of Milan, Barcelona president Laporta, Roberto De Assis, Ronaldinho and Ernesto Bronzetti will end the night at a well-known restaurant in Barcelona to celebrate the agreement.

acmilan.com

[Giovanni]

Guys, just watch the introduction of Milan official website.

[Siregar]

Hahaha, it's cool, Gio!

[Vulli]

The currency being talked is euro, right?

yes of course

[ginoformaggino]

Guys, just watch the introduction of Milan official website.


:3band: :djn: :3band:

[remote2book]

in other transfer news leonardo grimi has officialy completed his move to sporting lisbon

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=778057

[Siregar]

yes of course

I was not sure because I read that initial bid of Milan is 10+0. As far as I know, initial bid of Milan was around 11-12 mil pounds. So, its around 15 mil euros.

If its true Milan get Dinho for 18,5 + 1,5 or 15+5 (better), than it's not so far from the first bid.

[Siregar]

in other transfer news leonardo grimi has officialy completed his move to sporting lisbon

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=778057

AC Milan have also secured 35% of a future transfer fee for Grimi.---> I like this kind of transfer. Benefit for both sides (as Lisbon have to pay less IMO)

[Vulli]

:3band::3band::3band::3band::3band::3band:

[ginoformaggino]

Brazil press reaction:
"Pequim-2008 - O acerto com o clube italiano ainda deve liberar o jogador para integrar a seleção brasileira na disputa dos Jogos Olímpicos de Pequim. Segundo o consultor do Milan, Ernesto Bronzetti, o vice-presidente Adriano Galliani não irá se opor à convocação do atleta.

'Falei com o Ronaldinho quando ele estava saindo de Porto Alegre, e ele me disse que queria jogar no Milan. Quanto à Olimpíada, acredito que o o Galliani já o tenha liberado para disputar o torneio', contou Bronzetti. A liberação de Ronaldinho era uma das exigências de Roberto Assis, agente e irmão do craque, para confirmar a negociação.

(Atualizado às 19h16)"

http://www.gazetaesportiva.net/ge_noticias/bin/noticia.php?chid=118&nwid=70710

they are focused on the Olympic Games in Bejing, they are sured Dinho will goo.

[Siregar]

Brazil press reaction:
"Pequim-2008 - O acerto com o clube italiano ainda deve liberar o jogador para integrar a seleção brasileira na disputa dos Jogos Olímpicos de Pequim. Segundo o consultor do Milan, Ernesto Bronzetti, o vice-presidente Adriano Galliani não irá se opor à convocação do atleta.

'Falei com o Ronaldinho quando ele estava saindo de Porto Alegre, e ele me disse que queria jogar no Milan. Quanto à Olimpíada, acredito que o o Galliani já o tenha liberado para disputar o torneio', contou Bronzetti. A liberação de Ronaldinho era uma das exigências de Roberto Assis, agente e irmão do craque, para confirmar a negociação.

(Atualizado às 19h16)"

http://www.gazetaesportiva.net/ge_noticias/bin/noticia.php?chid=118&nwid=70710

they are focused on the Olympic Games in Bejing.

What do you mean?

Please tell at least the core of the news in english if you guys post an other-than-english news.

[ginoformaggino]

What do you mean?

Please tell at least the core of the news in english if you guys post an other-than-english news.

I wrote, they are only thinking to Bejing, they are sure Dinho will go to Bejing, ok Siregar? :dontkn:

[Siregar]

I wrote, they are only thinking to Bejing, they are sure Dinho will go to Bejing, ok Siregar? :dontkn:

If you said it's the core of the news, than its ok but for me I dont really know what your sentence means.

[ginoformaggino]

and you are in a group, with rules, now who explain to kakà that he cannot go to Bejing, while Dinho can? A rule is just broken, Siregar, here's the meaning between the lines

[jtelly]

Now Pirlo can get a break from free kicks!

[ginoformaggino]

Now Pirlo can get a break from free kicks!
windy man :cheers:

[Siregar]

and you are in a group, with rules, now who explain to kakà that he cannot go to Bejing, while Dinho can? A rule is just broken, Siregar, here's the meaning between the lines

Ah ok, grazie.

I think it makes sense, why Kaka is stopped to go to Beijing while Dinho not? Milan should ban R10 too IMO. Plus Dinho needs to train hard and do lot of exercises to avoid other Milan players kicking R10's stomach because they think it's the ball. :)

[jtelly]

hey gino, i know it sounds lame, but would you be interested in trading a padova scarf for a chicago fire scarf?
*Note to mods: this does technically fall under 'summer mercato' as it's bartering!

[ginoformaggino]

you want a scarf? a Padova scarf? ok

[ginoformaggino]

you may send me a fake invoice, because berlusconi has stopped all the trials! muaaaahhh!

[jtelly]

hahaha! classic, gino..you want a fire one?

[ginoformaggino]

:510:

c'mon, there is in the player Moratti dreams for

that's fantastique, forgetting for a while all the troubles he brings with

:5ok:

[hitmannq8]

omg I just realised we finally have a good free-kick taker!

[ForzaMilano821]

This is great!!!

Time to party at piazza del duomo! :3band::djn::djn::3band:

[Jeff]

omg I just realised we finally have a good free-kick taker!

Pirlo is not that bad honestly... we just don't have anyone to head the ball in :).

[ForzaMilano821]

Pirlo is not that bad honestly... we just don't have anyone to head the ball in :).

Who needs someone to head the ball when you can send Inzaghi to get in the way :5schal:

[Russo-Neri]

So how soon before Galliani admits that our mercato is closed? We might as well close this thread for awhile. Dinho, Zambro, Flamini - that's good enough for me this season!!! Next year we'll concentrate on signing defensive stars along with Boruc.

[Ryo]

I can't believe Galliani pulled a fast one on me while I was asleep!
And he added another year to boot, I thought the original plan was till 2010?
We spend less money to get more quality to boot!

The excitement isn"t over yet, but as this is the mercato page, so would anyone kill me if I asked for another signing? Defensive this time? =D

[Giancarlo]

I'm so happy that this is deal is done... this will add teeth to our attack and improve it so much and make it the best in the Serie A. We still need a CF, but I think this is fantastic... I've heard about it being official on a text message alert on my cell phone... ;) I was out and about...

[Giancarlo]

So how soon before Galliani admits that our mercato is closed? We might as well close this thread for awhile. Dinho, Zambro, Flamini - that's good enough for me this season!!! Next year we'll concentrate on signing defensive stars along with Boruc.

Well Zambro and Flamini are defensive players... but I think there may some room for another signing... I would hope... ;)

Either way, this has been a great transfer season for us, even though we lost a lot of funding being in fifth... our transfer season clearly outclassed our rivals, including Juve.

[Mystik]

Pirlo is not that bad honestly... we just don't have anyone to head the ball in :).
He's talking about direct free kicks and I agree with him...Pirlo more often than not leaves his free kick boots home.

[rt9]

The only thing I want to know now is what number he will wear. I hope Clarence gives up the number 10 and returns to his old 20, if not then maybe 11 for Dinho? Wasnt that the number he wore in the 2002 World Cup?

[rt9]

Ha ha, I was thinking in my head about Ronaldo's signing when I opened the Milan website this morning--you know the word "Ronaldo" in gold, and I was just thinking that they wouldnt do it again...well they sure did. Now we have "Ronaldinho" emblazoned in gold on our webpage---just cracks me up.

[Giancarlo]

He's talking about direct free kicks and I agree with him...Pirlo more often than not leaves his free kick boots home.

I think he should do fewer and he would take those fewer ones better than he does now... the arrival Ronaldinho certainly reduces stress on him and Kaka... this is like a 2 for 1 deal... heheh...

[Giancarlo]

Ha ha, I was thinking in my head about Ronaldo's signing when I opened the Milan website this morning--you know the word "Ronaldo" in gold, and I was just thinking that they wouldnt do it again...well they sure did. Now we have "Ronaldinho" emblazoned in gold on our webpage---just cracks me up.

That's their choice to do that. It doesn't suggest anything.

Anyways, I think Ronaldinho should get 11 or something.

[Giancarlo]

Question... was paid all out at once, or is it going to be paid by year in annual installments?

It seems there may be room for one more transfer if it was paid by year...

[ZvonimirBoban]

Yeah... Yeah... YEAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FINALLY....

Who's next? Who's next???

[rt9]

I think this could be it, as far as our signings go. Now, let's hope and pray that bad luck does not befall us again (i.e. Redondo, Rivaldo, Ronaldo) and Ronnie comes back from the Olympics uninjured, fit, and raring to go. I think a line up with Kaka, Dinho, Pato/Boriello/Inzaghi would be unbelievable, but Seedorf would have to drop back into midfield. Question is: will he be happy to do so without sulking and is he fit enough to play in midfield? Honestly, I would prefer a midfield of Pirlo, Gattuso/Ambro, Flamini anyday.

[Giancarlo]

As far as Seedorf, he can be great if he's not overstretched in what he has to do. He can play in some of the bigger matches and put more effort. I hope he accepts quality over quantity.

But I'm really quite happy... this really does make our transfer season all the much better!

[Milano84]

So how soon before Galliani admits that our mercato is closed? We might as well close this thread for awhile. Dinho, Zambro, Flamini - that's good enough for me this season!!! Next year we'll concentrate on signing defensive stars along with Boruc.

i hope not! i would love a CF, pirlo replacement, cb and lb..... but if we onl make 1 more signing.... please make it a GK. unless dida does something ridiculous, kalac is not capable of winning serie A.

[Giancarlo]

i hope not! i would love a CF, pirlo replacement, cb and lb..... but if we onl make 1 more signing.... please make it a GK. unless dida does something ridiculous, kalac is not capable of winning serie A.

I'd really prefer a CF... still. Even perhaps another young talent from Brazil. At most we might get one more player... I think we need two more (CF and LB) and perhaps a keeper (later on)... we're certainly not signing 4 players (nor do I think we need to)...

Abbiati is fine for now. It looks to be Abbiati-Kalac-Dida... in the list of 1st, 2nd and 3rd choices...

[Milano84]

yeah ijust look at how many games keepers lost for us. arsenal. fabregas had a good shot, but definately saveable by any keeper not named kalac. inter, cambiasso's shot and didas save 'attempt' was shameful.

I mean when u look at juve. there defense is bad aside from chiellini..... but buffon singlehandedly won them many points they wouldnt have got w/ another keeper.


with cf we're gambling..... should borriello be good, we'll be fine. i mean as it is we have 5 'attackers' for 3 attacking positions. (dinho, kaka, pato, pippo, borriello) i know 2 arent strikers, but we both know kaka and dinho will have zero defensive responsibilities.
In my opinion if borriello really is a quality CF, i'd rather us sign a 2nd striker type... AM so we can completel convert to 4-3-2-1. Because then at CF we have pippo and borriello and should be needed pato (who i think 1 day will become full CF). However if we have 4-3-2-1 our pass formation, should kaka or dinho sit a game out we have no other scoring AM.

[Milano84]

when u look at teams who play a base 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 whatever u like they carr 4 wingers/ams and 2 cf..... Its a point of preference... but i would love to see a speed demon winger come in to give us an option..... imagine we wanna rest kaka so we play....
-----------borriello------------

--dinho------------(fast guy, who we'll name quaresma for time being to make dru hard)


edit: my point is our squad should be full set for a tactic..... but its pointless because it wont happen.

[Giancarlo]

yeah ijust look at how many games keepers lost for us. arsenal. fabregas had a good shot, but definately saveable by any keeper not named kalac. inter, cambiasso's shot and didas save 'attempt' was shameful.

I don't agree with that, but I'd much not rather get into the issues with that. Not even a great keeper in my opinion could have saved Fabrega's shot. Kalac did a lot of great saves... though he made some mistakes... all in all his performances were quite good in the second half of the season, despite the CL loss...



with cf we're gambling..... should borriello be good, we'll be fine. i mean as it is we have 5 'attackers' for 3 attacking positions. (dinho, kaka, pato, pippo, borriello) i know 2 arent strikers, but we both know kaka and dinho will have zero defensive responsibilities.
In my opinion if borriello really is a quality CF, i'd rather us sign a 2nd striker type... AM so we can completel convert to 4-3-2-1. Because then at CF we have pippo and borriello and should be needed pato (who i think 1 day will become full CF). However if we have 4-3-2-1 our pass formation, should kaka or dinho sit a game out we have no other scoring AM.

Our issue is not really the keeper. We have a strong defense, and an adequate keeper. But the issue this previous season was our attack and not putting games away from reach by the opposing team... Ronaldinho certainly shores up that, but we still need one more CF. Yes, Dinho and Kaka can act as strikers, but it puts more pressure on them...

[ZvonimirBoban]

Will we rejoin Adebayor race, or let Barça 'have' him as a part of gentleman agreement? I was thinking and thinking, and now I can see maybe we could rotate Pato/Pippo and maybe Borriello if needed so we didn't really need a new striker. Adebayor, Pavlyuchenko, Sheva or my personal preference Villawould be greatly welcomed, though.

For keeper, I think we should try agan with Frey, personally I don't believe in Boruc, I prefer to spend one of our non-EU spot for Akinfeev or the Turks Demirel Volkan. Zapata/Mexes/Santacroce are also my choice if we want to strengthen the backline, and I believe we must.

[Milano84]

i'd agree our attack was an issue, but i thought it started alot in midfield. didnt create as many opportunities. Pirlo was only creative force. I think next year w/ seedorf pushed back and flamini, we might have a little more coming up, ultimatel benefiting strikeforce. but on last season. our defense was the worst its been since ive watched milan. peticularly at end of season on counter. i can think of 3 games off top o my head at homestretch of season where we went down 2-0, largely on counter attack goals..... atalanta, sampdoria napoli

maldini rarely plays so i dont count him as a starter... although hes generally class. nesta still wc. Kaladze...poor. he had a great champions league in 2006/07, but hes pretty erratic. I'm not even going to go into our fb play but it was awful. Both the juve and roma losses our fb's were skinned on flanks.. i mean cmon salihamovic scored TWICE ON MILAN?!
Zambrotta fixes 1 side. i'm willing to give oddo another year. But our gk is just pisspoor for a top side. juve=buffon, inter= ceasar, roma= doni...... milan=???

[Milano84]

where did i read we had an agreement if fioretina dont advance out of CL group stages thell sell frey. or if they dont qualify again..... or am i making this up?


edit yes i love santacroce, zapata, thiago silva..... fast aggressive CB to stop counters which killed our slowboys in back.

[Giancarlo]

i'd agree our attack was an issue, but i thought it started alot in midfield. didnt create as many opportunities. Pirlo was only creative force. I think next year w/ seedorf pushed back and flamini, we might have a little more coming up, ultimatel benefiting strikeforce. but on last season. our defense was the worst its been since ive watched milan. peticularly at end of season on counter. i can think of 3 games off top o my head at homestretch of season where we went down 2-0, largely on counter attack goals..... atalanta, sampdoria napoli

Exactly. Seedorf stretched himself thin last season. I think he needs to understand that he can contribute to Milan but should do more in a limited quality oriented basis. A lot of quantity means little when playmaking is poor. Now we have ronaldinho... the opportunities will be created. It's mouthwatering thinking of our midfield now.. .and I can't wait to see some friendly games...

I think the Olympics don't start until Aug 7th - 23rd... so there must be some July friendly games later this month... I would hope that Ronaldinho participates.

Our defense isnt' as bad as you're making it, but I agree it does need to be shored up. Often, we played to 1-1 games... I think Zambrotta will be helpful, but as I said I agree we need one more left back player. And perhaps another CB...



maldini rarely plays so i dont count him as a starter... although hes generally class. nesta still wc. Kaladze...poor.

I think Kaladze is fine... and I usually defend the guy and get criticized for it. To mention I have not really said much about him since joining this forum.


i mean cmon salihamovic scored TWICE ON MILAN?!

That was Bonera's fault. His red card was the turning point in that game. That foul was just ridiculous. Other than that Bonera to speak of is a great player and I hope he is a starter. Some people don't like him, but I do.

But our gk is just pisspoor for a top side. juve=buffon, inter= ceasar, roma= doni...... milan=???

I think Abbiati is just fine...

[Giancarlo]

And one other thing... Ferrari is a free agent I believe... not totally sure about that... yes I know some of you are skeptical of him, but I think he would be fine...

[ZvonimirBoban]

But our gk is just pisspoor for a top side. juve=buffon, inter= ceasar, roma= doni...... milan=???

Bah. Only Buffon I consider top GK out of those three. I agree, though, our GKs are miserable, and no better than those three.

[Russo-Neri]

I don't think we can really be greedy at this point and expect more signings. I think mgmt have assembled a team that should definitely compete for the scudetto. Inter has a great team and it will be a tough fight, but I think we clearly put ahead of the rest of serie A and have maybe just enough to edge Inter out.

I really don't see any urgent needs at this point -look at our team:

GKs - Abbiati, Kalac and Dida
FBs - Zambro, Oddo, Janku, Favalli, Antonini
CBs - Nesta, Kaladze, Bonera, Maldini, Digao, Darmian, Simic
MFs - Pirlo, Gattuso, Ambro, Flamini, Emerson, Brocchi
AMs - Kaka, Dinho, Seedorf
FWs - Pato, Borriello, Inzaghi

Really, I don't see any glaring holes in our roster. Sure, I wish we could sign Boruc, Zapata, Adebayor, and go back in time and sign Vargas/Maggio and Cigarini (that last one hurts), but I think we need to appreciate all the moves Milan has done and not expect anymore.

The ONLY player who I can see Milan signing is Sheva via loan. Not because he's vital to our team's success at this point, but because of his relationship with Berlu. But if we don't, I think our forwards are enough to get the job done. And I personally believe that Pato will EXPLODE next season. You heard it here first.

[Gabriel489]

For starter, Brocchi, Favalli and Simic should go.
Brocchi=excess baggage, as Seedorf will also move back and since Emerson is not going anywhere, Brocchi will really have no play time at all. On top of that, I doubt AMbro will be call to the National team anymore, as Lippi would probably want a younger team for WC.
Favalli needs to go in order for Antonini to get exp.
Simic needs to be sold while he still worth 5M, and once he is gone, Darian will have more playtime.

Well, if Polashi is staying, then I am fine with the strikers but if he is on loan then I guess it is better for us to sign a JDT type of strikers.

[Russo-Neri]

By the way, has there ever been any link with us and Crespo? Isn't he free now?

[kawiki]

^ does simic still with us? and I'm not sure about darmian and diago either.

What happen with marzoratti?

[jtelly]

I believe Paloschi will stay, as buying Dinho has negated our ability to sign another forward. I don't mind this, in fact I'm quite happy as it will force Carlo to play youth and trust in it. As Russo-Neri lays it out, we have a quite decent squad. I'd like to see Simic go while we can sell him as Gabriel says, and Favalli as well so Antonini can play. I like what we have here; it is competitive, it allows for rotation, and I think it is competitive for the scudetto. This will be our main focus for the year, I am sure. If we could win it in Ronnie's first year, imagine the momentum to go into CL the following, it'd be amazing.
I am VERY excited for the year, and I believe if we take the right chances, we can do the business in serie A. I want to do well in UEFA cup but that's second fiddle to winning the league, and I think we have the squad to do it.

[Milano84]

yeah forget ferari. i'd rather hold and get a quality defender than hear galliani go, we alread have enough, we have ferrari!

[Giancarlo]

I believe Paloschi will stay, as buying Dinho has negated our ability to sign another forward. I don't mind this, in fact I'm quite happy as it will force Carlo to play youth and trust in it. As Russo-Neri lays it out, we have a quite decent squad. I'd like to see Simic go while we can sell him as Gabriel says, and Favalli as well so Antonini can play. I like what we have here; it is competitive, it allows for rotation, and I think it is competitive for the scudetto. This will be our main focus for the year, I am sure. If we could win it in Ronnie's first year, imagine the momentum to go into CL the following, it'd be amazing.
I am VERY excited for the year, and I believe if we take the right chances, we can do the business in serie A. I want to do well in UEFA cup but that's second fiddle to winning the league, and I think we have the squad to do it.

Agreed.

And not only that we increased the depth of our squad immensely. The management took steps that I believed they would. Some people call me crazy and a strong defender of management... but they pulled through this time for sure. :) We can't fix everything in one transfer window... there are always more to come.

And as it should be... the scudetto should be priority and I believe most Diavolo players agree with that... :)

While I'm really excited about Ronaldinho, I also can't wait to see Pato play more... scoring 9 goals in half of a season and getting his foot solidly in the door as he did... that's the way to do it! I can't wait!

And I'm sure Inter is trembling right now... they couldn't even get Lampard...

[Milano84]

7/15/2008 8:53 PM
Txiki Explains Ronaldinho Exit
Just a few hours after news broke that AC Milan and Barcelona have reached an agreement over Ronaldinho, Barça’s director of football, Txiki Begiristain, has given his reasoning behind the superstar’s exit.

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After officially coming to an agreement to sell Ronaldinho to Serie A giants AC Milan, Txiki explained in detail the activities that transpired on Tuesday and resulted in the Brazilian ace’s departure from the Camp Nou.

“The player will always decide where he wants to play. As a club, we can have 40 different offers but in the end, what counts is the player’s own desire,” he said.

The technical director also revealed one of the main deal-breakers that clinched the move: “This agreement was reached because Ronnie forfeited his right to 15% of the transfer fee.

“We are very satisfied with this deal because all three parties are happy. We are contented with the transfer and Ronnie will now also leave happy.”

The principle agreement of the transfer will see Barcelona pocket an initial €21 million plus €4 million in performance-related bonuses.

KS Leong
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gave up his 15%. ver impressive. definately something to prove

[Milano84]

and i respect barca for letting him come here. if they were selfish theyd take man cit's offer.... also insuring they probably would never face him again

[Giancarlo]

and i respect barca for letting him come here. if they were selfish theyd take man cit's offer.... also insuring they probably would never face him again

I hear Barca fans are in a huge uproar right now.

[Gabriel489]

Well, I am going to buy R10 jersey right after work today.
Going to print number 10 on it since I know Seedorf will either leave or give the number to Dinho.

[Blacktop]

Valdes is terrible at times. Let's not mention him.

Sometimes I think the only reason V-Dub is still hanging around over there is because he's a Catalan local yokel.